Orakpo 2009 Defensive rookie of the year and pro bowler
 

I know I was pissed that we didn't draft Mack as our 1st rounder. But man, this kid Orakpo is a beast and no doubt will be defensive rookie of the year and a pro bowler. I think Carter, Haynesworth and Fletcher will also be in the pro bowl squad.

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I think you'r dreaming on atleast 3 counts.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;639578]I think you'r dreaming on atleast 3 counts.[/quote] and those 3 counts would be ?

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Fletcher should definitely be in the Pro Bowl. Orakpo will be a Pro Bowler, maybe not this season though...but he is definitely a beast. Carter...well..he's played very well this season, just not so sure he's a Pro Bowler.

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No doubt he is the DROY mainly he is a LB in a 4-3 system and has 11 sacks. I can't think of a 4-3 LB in the league close to 11 imagine him at DE full-time!!!

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Definitely going to come down to either Orakpo, Matthews, or Cushing... probably depends on how the next few games turn out.

4 defensive pro bowlers to a 4-9 team? I doubt it

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Rak and Carter both deserve Pro Bowl consideration, not sure either will get it though.

You can only hope that Fletcher gets in, god knows he is long overdue.

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[quote=Eknox;639582]and those 3 counts would be ?[/quote]

Carter is not making the pro-bowl and neither is Haynesworth. Orakpo isnt making defensive rookie of the year, although I think he could make the pro-bowl. I think Fletcher has a good shot of making the pro-bowl this year, although I personally don't think he deserves it. He's not one of the top 2 ILBs in the NFC, although i think he may make it on the merit of his career as opposed to his performance in 2009.

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Carter and Orakpo are tied for 2nd in the NFC 1 1/2 sacks behind Jared "white trash" Allen. Dummervil has 15, Allen 12.5, Freeney 11.5 and then Carter and Orakpo. I see them both in the pro bowl and Orakpo is a rookie, what other rookie is having Orakpo's year on defense?

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Rak would be voted in as a OLB though, so I don't see him making it at that position.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;639601]Carter and Orakpo are tied for 2nd in the NFC 1 1/2 sacks behind Jared "white trash" Allen. Dummervil has 15, Allen 12.5, Freeney 11.5 and then Carter and Orakpo. I see them both in the pro bowl and Orakpo is a rookie, what other rookie is having Orakpo's year on defense?[/quote]

Don't think there's a rookie that's close w/ his sack total. He may get in though as a rookie. Not sure about Carter, i doubt it. It doesn't help that we have 4 wins. A team w/ 4 wins doesn't generally send more than a couple.

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Jairus Byrd will get serious consideration for defensive rookie of the year. He has 9 interceptions and leads the league.

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Clay Matthews is having a very strong year for the Packers. And the Packers are on their way to the playoffs. He has to be in the conversation for DROY

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I rarely pay attention to the ProBowl. How often do rookies make it in?

I think it might be hard for him to get a bid, but Carter and Fletch should be done deals. Who knows though, I felt the same way about Fletch last year.

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Clay Matthews stats:

G Solo Ast Total Sack
13 29 11 40 8

Brian Orakpo stats:

G Solo Ast Total Sack
13 34 12 46 11

Playoffs or not Orakpo has better stats.

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Orakpo definately should get consideration for DROY but the pro-bowl may be a stretch because of flex positions. Would he be a pro-bowler at LB/or DE? Carter is enjoying a fine year but is not a pro-bowl caliber player. Fletcher is long overdue and should be invited. Haynesworth I'm skeptical about because of his rather up and down season. He's only played approx 60% of the defensive snaps and has missed a lot of time. At times he's played up to the status, but has it been enough?

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2 forced fumbles for Matthews as well (1 for Orakpo). Either way, I didn't say Matthews would get it, just that he'll definitely be strongly considered

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;639576]I know I was pissed that we didn't draft Mack as our 1st rounder. But man, this kid Orakpo is a beast and no doubt will be defensive rookie of the year and a pro bowler. I think Carter, Haynesworth and Fletcher will also be in the pro bowl squad.[/quote]

Unfortunately, I think Jarius Byrd is going to get the nod for DROY. He's leading the league with 9 picks and got a lot of attention early in the season, with some going so far as to say he was a "lock" to get the award midway through the season. Orakpo is a beast and I would love to see him get the award, but I don't think it will happen. He could make the Pro Bowl, but I think it will be an uphill climb as well because he plays a hybrid position.

Carter and Haynesworth have decent shots at making the Pro Bowl, but I think Fletcher is going to get the shaft. You usually have to have name-recognition to make the Pro Bowl and, as good as Fletcher is, he doesn't have a lot of name-recognition. Plus, he's going up against Jon Beason and Patrick Willis.

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No surprises here. Redskins have always been adept at drafting pro bowl defensive players. Orakpo is continuing the tradition. Only if we could draft offensive players that are half as good as our defensive draft picks.

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[quote=SmootSmack;639661]2 forced fumbles for Matthews as well (1 for Orakpo). Either way, I didn't say Matthews would get it, just that he'll definitely be strongly considered[/quote]

yeah and so will cushing 112 tackles 2.5 sacks 2 forced fumbles 3 int's and he is a true olb not a hybrid like orakpo

if orakpo would have been on the line this whole season he would have a better shot, i think he really needs and int since he is considered our olb, and to continue the sack count

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Brian needs 15 sacks to guarantee his pro-bowl spot and get the nod for ROTY.

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[quote=Longtimefan;639660]Orakpo definately should get consideration for DROY but the pro-bowl may be a stretch because of flex positions. Would he be a pro-bowler at LB/or DE? Carter is enjoying a fine year but is not a pro-bowl caliber player. Fletcher is long overdue and should be invited. Haynesworth I'm skeptical about because of his rather up and down season. He's only played approx 60% of the defensive snaps and has missed a lot of time. At times he's played up to the status, but has it been enough?[/quote]

Don't know what you mean by up and down season, besides missing a few games he has played at a pro bowl level all year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;639661]2 forced fumbles for Matthews as well (1 for Orakpo). Either way, I didn't say Matthews would get it, just that he'll definitely be strongly considered[/quote]


I think right now Matthews is getting all the attention so it would seem he's the front runner. If Orakpo can have another big game on monday though, things can change real fast.

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redskins always get screwed ...

orakpo i really, really hope get DROY -- highest of hope for the pro bowl...

Fletcher BETTER get the damn pro bowl nod.

it'd be ridiculous for him not to make it.

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see the sig...been saying it for a long time

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yea he needs to be at DE full time. that shit pisses me off that Blache/Managment is so F%%^*$ STUBBORN AND DON'T see the best thing they haVE RIGHT UNDER THEY DAMN NOSES.

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If I had a vote, I'd probably go

Orakpo
Byrd
Cushing
Matthews

Of course I'm biased. I gotta say, 9 INTs is really impressive. More so than 11 sacks through 13 games.

Orakpo has three games in front of him that all have huge playoff implications for the opponents, and they will draw national attention. He has a chance to get after Eli Manning, Tony Romo, and Philip Rivers on consecutive weeks. If he does, he could easily take home DROY.

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I hope he get a Pro Bowl berth.. I got my jersey last week and my Pro Bowl tix are in my desk drawer!

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Peter King definitley noticed Orakpo:

Defensive Player of the Week

Brian Orakpo, OLB, Washington.

Who'd have thought Orakpo would have rushed the pass more productively in the first 13 games of his rookie year than Demarcus Ware, Julius Peppers and LaMarr Woodley? By the measure of sacks, he has. His four-sack day at Oakland (sacks for losses of nine, nine, nine and 10 yards) gave him 11 for the year.

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Jairus Byrd was just put on IR...which certainly helps Orakpo's hopes

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[quote=SmootSmack;645206]Jairus Byrd was just put on IR...which certainly helps Orakpo's hopes[/quote]

monday night certainly didn't help him much

hopefully he gets the 4 sacks he need for kearse's record all against dallas that would make this year worth while

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[quote=Meks;639908]yea he needs to be at DE full time. that shit pisses me off that Blache/Managment is so F%%^*$ STUBBORN AND DON'T see the best thing they haVE RIGHT UNDER THEY DAMN NOSES.[/quote]

The coaching staff's job is "to put the best 11 players on the field." Arguably, putting our best 11 players on the field entails playing Orakpo at SLB notwithstanding the fact that he's more effective as a RDE than a SLB.

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[quote=Longtimefan;639660]Orakpo definately should get consideration for DROY but the pro-bowl may be a stretch because of flex positions. Would he be a pro-bowler at LB/or DE? Carter is enjoying a fine year but is not a pro-bowl caliber player. Fletcher is long overdue and should be invited. Haynesworth I'm skeptical about because of his rather up and down season. [B]He's only played approx 60% of the defensive snaps[/B] and has missed a lot of time. At times he's played up to the status, but has it been enough?[/quote]
Are you counting the games that he didn't play in?