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SFREDSKIN 12-20-2009 09:02 PM

Jaworski breaks down the Redskins
 
Good article.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/20/AR2009122002240.html]ESPN's Jaworski breaks down the Redskins - washingtonpost.com[/url]

mlmdub130 12-20-2009 09:15 PM

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[I]Oh, did you see that? [Stephon] Heyer just got nuked right there! Look at this," he said, rewinding the video for the thousandth time. "Look out, Jason. Here it comes again.'"
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As he goes through film, Jaworski points out one-by-one each linemen who gets beat by a defender. Inevitably, the play ends with Campbell planted into the ground.

"Play-calling?" Jaworski asked at one point. "What play do you call when this is the protection?" [/I]

great article, i actually agree with jaws for the most part...i feel dirty

Lotus 12-20-2009 09:22 PM

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Thanks for the good read. I don't always agree with Jaws but he still has intelligent things to say.

dmek25 12-20-2009 09:34 PM

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Jaws knows his stuff. the guy probably watches more film then anyone, coaches included

SmootSmack 12-20-2009 10:10 PM

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Jaws is great. One of my favorite people, even if he's a former Eagle. I think I've mentioned this before. But what you see on tv is exactly how he is in everyday life. He's as enthusiastic talking about the salad bar in the cafeteria. Well maybe not as enthusiastic, but still

TheSmurfs22 12-20-2009 10:14 PM

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Good read thanks for sharing, I think he summed up this team in many ways.

GMScud 12-20-2009 10:36 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;643155]Jaws is great. One of my favorite people, even if he's a former Eagle. I think I've mentioned this before. But what you see on tv is exactly how he is in everyday life. He's as enthusiastic talking about the salad bar in the cafeteria. Well maybe not as enthusiastic, but still[/quote]

I can just see him giving enthusiastic props to the lady who cut up the arugula and tomatoes. "A delicious side salad with some crumbled bleu cheese that was just excellent. Olga the salad bar manager has a real future in this business, no question."

SmootSmack 12-20-2009 10:45 PM

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[quote=GMScud;643171]I can just see him giving enthusiastic props to the lady who cut up the arugula and tomatoes. "A delicious side salad with some crumbled bleu cheese that was just excellent. Olga the salad bar manager has a real future in this business, no question."[/quote]

Exactly like that

skinsfan69 12-20-2009 11:24 PM

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Is there anyone more knowledgeable than Jaws?? And credit goes out to the coaches, especially on the offense. Guys are still playing hard.

53Fan 12-20-2009 11:24 PM

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Good article. Maybe execution has been the problem huh? The players are more comfortable as they should be the longer they're in this offense. I'm sure that Zorn looks like an idiot and Lewis a genius to those who only go by the record, but most of it is that the players are playing better IMO. I like Jaws myself. He's always seemed like a straight-shooter with no underlying motives. I don't think the NFL has seen the best of JC yet. Hopefully we get some good o-linemen in here and give him a chance next year.

GMScud 12-20-2009 11:26 PM

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A really phenomenal breakdown by Jaws. A tip of the hat to Zorn and team captains for how hard we're still playing. Man I really hope we stomp on NY's playoff hopes tomorrow.

Unfortunately for fantasy purposes I need Fred Davis to do next to nothing. Probably not gonna happen.

rbanerjee23 12-20-2009 11:45 PM

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Thank god someone with actual football knowledge is saying what a lot of us on this forum have been saying for a long time, JC is a solid QB, Zorn is decent coach, the Offensive line is truly offensive lol. At one point he called it a practice squad team but this team with Zorn at the head and JC leading them has been competing with playoff/superbowl caliber teams for the last few weeks.

Of course, this can only mean one thing, the dipshit named DS is going to blow it up and start over.

tryfuhl 12-21-2009 01:53 AM

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I love Jaws; I'll disagree with him on Davis though.

LandrySlice 12-21-2009 02:19 AM

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well written article, and the breakdown is pretty fair.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-21-2009 03:36 AM

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Good article. Jaws is one of the more informative announcers.

SmootSmack 12-21-2009 07:26 AM

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His comment about wishing Davis and the other WRs didn't do "blackboard running" was interesting because isn't that essentially key to the WCO? To run exact, precise routes with very limited variation?

MTK 12-21-2009 08:00 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;643222]His comment about wishing Davis and the other WRs didn't do "blackboard running" was interesting because isn't that essentially key to the WCO? To run exact, precise routes with very limited variation?[/quote]

Maybe he's saying the offense needs more option routes?

Longtimefan 12-21-2009 09:25 AM

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He makes a great case for Jason Campbell. Being an ex QB himself he's well aware of how the word "development" cannot be understated. Great QB are not made in a couple years in the NFL, the very good ones have been around for a while.

53Fan 12-21-2009 10:25 AM

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Hmm, I always thought it was Vinny and Snyder who broke down the Redskins. :biggthump

bigmarley4 12-21-2009 10:46 AM

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I really liked that article. My only concern was that he still used terms like "long way to go" and "the clay is starting to mold" when describing Campbell. This is a 5th year QB, not a rookie or 2nd year guy -- my patience is worn out with waiting for him to be a solid, consistent leader and QB. I'm not a JC hater and would love to see him back here next year but we've been hearing that sort of description for the last 3 years.

hooskins 12-21-2009 11:16 AM

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Yeah, but his comments of JC dont lead to the conclusion that he not a good QB in terms of learning offenses. I think Jaws is noting how the constant change is the root cause of the issue, not Campbell.

hooskins 12-21-2009 11:18 AM

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Again JC haters can point to Aaron Rodgers, because he has a pretty bad line. But Rodgers has been in the same system for 2-3 years, plus he was groomed by one of the best in the business. I dont put Brunell or Collins near Farve, so lets not even think about that.

Bad Oline + constant change = bad QB play. I doubt any QBs would have succeeded here.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 11:19 AM

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Jaworski is good at breaking down film, but it seems like he already has an opinion about what he is going to analyze before he sees the film.

And here's a sentence from the article that I don't agree with.

[I]For the most part, he sees a team with Pro Bowl effort across the board and Pop Warner talent where it hurts most.[/I]

Calling the redskins, Pop Warner talent is somewhat demeaning. No matter how you judge the talent, I would take this version of the redskins over the one that started the season any day.

53Fan 12-21-2009 11:19 AM

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[quote=hooskins;643289]Yeah, but his comments of JC dont lead to the conclusion that he not a good QB in terms of learning offenses. I think Jaws is noting how the constant change is the root cause of the issue, not Campbell.[/quote]

I agree. Everytime JC starts "getting it", they change the system. Plus we haven't exactly been restocking our 0-line with a bunch of studs over the years.

CRedskinsRule 12-21-2009 11:21 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;643293]Jaworski is good at breaking down film, but it seems like he already has an opinion about what he is going to analyze before he sees the film.

And here's a sentence from the article that I don't agree with.

[I]For the most part, he sees a team with Pro Bowl effort across the board and Pop Warner talent where it hurts most.[/I]

Calling the redskins, Pop Warner talent is somewhat demeaning. No matter how you judge the talent, I would take this version of the redskins over the one that started the season any day.[/quote]

He tried to back that statement up, but I did think it was unfair to the players who have excelled recently. They haven't been facing Pop Warner teams, and have been increasing successful.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 11:34 AM

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[quote=hooskins;643292]Again JC haters can point to Aaron Rodgers, because he has a pretty bad line. But Rodgers has been in the same system for 2-3 years, plus he was groomed by one of the best in the business. I dont put Brunell or Collins near Farve, so lets not even think about that.

Bad Oline + constant change = bad QB play. I doubt any QBs would have succeeded here.[/quote]

I love the way Campbell is playing since the Broncos game. And I had this discussion in another thread - which of these has had more of a positive impact on the team in playing well recently: 1) Campbell's play or 2) the play of the offensive line ?

MTK 12-21-2009 11:35 AM

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His take on that long run by Ganther is on target. Ganther doesn't have much straight line speed. Gotta love his heart, but that's the kind of play where you need someone to take it the distance.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 11:37 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;643299]His take on that long run by Ganther is on target. Ganther doesn't have much straight line speed. Gotta love his heart, but that's the kind of play where you need someone to take it the distance.[/quote]

... but if Portis is in there, is it any better ?

He seems to be saying that the team's talent at certain positions was that much greater at the beginning of the season.

53Fan 12-21-2009 11:48 AM

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[quote=warriorzpath;643300]... [B]but if Portis is in there, is it any better[/B] ?

He seems to be saying that the team's talent at certain positions was that much greater at the beginning of the season.[/quote]

No. But I think it points out our need for a speedy young RB.

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 12:21 PM

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[quote=53Fan;643301]No. But I think it points out our need for a speedy young RB.[/quote]

But I think the point he was making was in comparison to the redskins team and players that started the season to what it is now. Here's another paragraph taken from the article:

[I][B]"When you consider this bunch that's playing right now with what they started the season with -- the offensive line, the tight end, the running backs -- I mean, it's a practice squad team," Jaworski said.[/B][/I]

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 12:50 PM

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While I agree with alot of his analysis, I think some of the things he says goes against why the redskins offense is significantly better now.

mlmpetert 12-21-2009 01:18 PM

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Its hard for me to take Jaws seriously most of the time, hes just too enthusiastic.

Reading this did just made me even more upset that we actually tried to get a new QB last offseason. I mean how could the evaluators at Redskins Park say, no its not the lack of any protection that is holding JC back it’s the fact that hes a not good enough.

tryfuhl 12-21-2009 01:24 PM

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[quote=GMScud;643171]I can just see him giving enthusiastic props to the lady who cut up the arugula and tomatoes. "A delicious side salad with some crumbled bleu cheese that was just excellent. Olga the salad bar manager has a real future in this business, no question."[/quote]
this just made me hungry

I don't think that I've ever seen arugula on the salad bar before.. I gotta up my level

rbanerjee23 12-21-2009 01:36 PM

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[quote=bigmarley4;643280]I really liked that article. My only concern was that he still used terms like "long way to go" and "the clay is starting to mold" when describing Campbell. This is a 5th year QB, not a rookie or 2nd year guy -- my patience is worn out with waiting for him to be a solid, consistent leader and QB. I'm not a JC hater and would love to see him back here next year but we've been hearing that sort of description for the last 3 years.[/quote]

that doesn't matter, for all intents and purposes he is a second year guy because he has had about 2 years to get used to the system. He does show the veteran side of himself by not throwing a lot of picks.

drew54 12-21-2009 01:44 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;643338]this just made me hungry

I don't think that I've ever seen arugula on the salad bar before.. I gotta up my level[/quote]

Arugula is for Elitists!

warriorzpath 12-21-2009 01:49 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;643334]Its hard for me to take Jaws seriously most of the time, hes just too enthusiastic.

Reading this did just made me even more upset that we actually tried to get a new QB last offseason. I mean how could the evaluators at Redskins Park say, no its not the lack of any protection that is holding JC back it’s the fact that hes a not good enough.[/quote]

But if you believe what Jaworski is saying in his analysis, the offensive line's play can't be the main reason why Campbell was not doing well in the beginning of the season because the offensive line still don't seem to be playing better.

backrow 12-21-2009 02:44 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;643224]Maybe he's saying the offense needs more option routes?[/quote]

More option routes, and more audibles!

redsk1 12-21-2009 03:20 PM

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[quote=53Fan;643301]No. But I think it points out our need for a speedy young RB.[/quote]

Yes, add game breaking young RB to our wishlist behind QB, OL-men, cb.


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