Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins
 

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I think Bradford is actually a good pick if A) Okung is not available or B) there isn't a trade-down offer on the table that would allow them to move back to 11-15 and pick up an additional day 1 pick (or some other scenario that would allow them to expand their draft)

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if we draft Bradford..this means we didn't address the line...which means the next QB behind center in 2010 will have to be a tough SOB since the line will get you killed...Bradfords shoulder has proven this would be a MISTAKE. KEEP the tough guy Campbell..draft OL with 1st three possible picks

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I rather take any other position besides QB with our 1st pick. 2nd round if we have to take a QB pick Tony Pike. Jimmy Clausen is better than Bradford.

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[quote=Drift Reality;646155]I think Bradford is actually a good pick if A) Okung is not available or B) there isn't a trade-down offer on the table that would allow them to move back to 11-15 and pick up an additional day 1 pick (or some other scenario that would allow them to expand their draft)[/quote]

I agree 100%

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[quote=Drift Reality;646155]I think Bradford is actually a good pick if A) Okung is not available or B) there isn't a trade-down offer on the table that would allow them to move back to 11-15 and pick up an additional day 1 pick (or some other scenario that would allow them to expand their draft)[/quote]

Bradford will only be a good pick if he drops down to the 2nd round and we address other areas of need. I would prefer not to put this guy in a position to start, let him ride the pine, and make sure his shoulder doesn't bust up again.

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I love this sh.. We don't have a coach, but we know who the first pick is?

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[quote=Drift Reality;646155]I think Bradford is actually a good pick if A) Okung is not available or B) there isn't a trade-down offer on the table that would allow them to move back to 11-15 and pick up an additional day 1 pick (or some other scenario that would allow them to expand their draft)[/quote]

Agreed. If the Redskins pick at #6 and Okung is already gone then there really isn't a good OT available that high. We can still address the line during the rest of the draft.

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So who is ready for another 3-4 years like this if we pick the next Jamarcus.

This team is dogshit. The wet kind, not dry.

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[quote=Texanskin;646175]if we draft Bradford..this means we didn't address the line...which means the next QB behind center in 2010 will have to be a tough SOB since the line will get you killed...Bradfords shoulder has proven this would be a MISTAKE. KEEP the tough guy Campbell..draft OL with 1st three possible picks[/quote]

Bradford will get crushed with that bum shoulder. It would be a disaster just as big as Heath Schuler!!!!!

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[quote=GusFrerotte;646787]Bradford will get crushed with that bum shoulder. It would be a disaster just as big as Heath Schuler!!!!![/quote]

Bradford is mobile, Great athlete kind of like Romo is, I would love to draft him and then draft the rest on oline..

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[quote=Hog1;646278]I love this sh.. We don't have a coach, but we know who the first pick is?[/quote]

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That just about sums up the Skins these last few years.

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Keep Campbell and start shoring up the O line. When will the Skins learn. I love em, but damnit I feel like it is Groundhog Day, we keep doing the same thing time after time.

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[quote=skins89moss;646180]I rather take any other position besides QB with our 1st pick. 2nd round if we have to take a QB pick Tony Pike. Jimmy Clausen is better than Bradford.[/quote]

Agreed. I want ZERO part of Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy. Guys like Pike, Lefevour, Zac Robinson, Max Hall, and others will all be available later. Plus don't forget about the beloved Colt Brennan coming back. If we have a pick inside the top 10 and we can't move down or get Okung, just draft CJ Spiller. It's a need and he's a total beast. In which case just address O-line later on in the draft and in FA.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;646787]Bradford will get crushed with that bum shoulder. It would be a disaster just as big as Heath Schuler!!!!![/quote]

Yeah he was getting hit by boys in college, his shoulder doesn't want to see Tuck, Osi, Trent Cole, Ware & Ratliff twice a year.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;646787]Bradford will get crushed with that bum shoulder. It would be a disaster just as big as Heath Schuler!!!!![/quote]

Like Brees' bum shoulder?

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[quote=SmootSmack;646828]Like Brees' bum shoulder?[/quote]

Even with this coming up draft i don't think that we can address the line like we should, it will take 2-3 years IMO. If you ask me we need to replace everybody but Dock. Plus you have other positions you need to address LB (Keep Rak at DE he struggles in coverage), RB (Portis replacement), CB (If you don't sign Rogers back you can't depend on Smoot, Westbrook, Tryon or Barnes to start the season next year), S (I think you need to permanently move Landry back to SS he plays better there leaving a hole at FS). Now i do understand that FA will play a role in this but realistically all this areas will not be fixed in 1 draft or free agency. So i believe that if you choose Bradford you have to play him immediately nowadays he would be getting paid to much not too. The line will still be suspect and i don't think he has the toughness to take poundings with a rebuilding franchise. Plus San Diego had a o-line and Brees took shots but not like JC is on 3 step drops. We won't be superbowl contenders moreless NFC East Champs next year it will take some time. Bradford needs a stable organization to protect him somewhere like Jacksonville.

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[quote=SmootSmack;646828]Like Brees' bum shoulder?[/quote]

Exactly, I mean lets face it. Bradford is going to be the Redskins QB of the future. We will draft offensive lineman, theres no need to worry about that. Remember Vinny isn't in charge anymore so the O-Line will no longer be overlooked. With that said I wonder what the Rams will do.

By the way Smoot, what do you know about Clausen being selected near the top of the draft. Right now he seems to be graded as a late first round pick by Scouts Inc.

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Assuming the Rams pick first, I think they'll face a tough decision but I can see them doing something similar to what the Dolphins did two years ago. Get a lineman (in this case a defensive lineman) in the first round and then a QB at the top of the 2nd. I could see a Suh-McCoy combo for the Rams

And if the Rams don't take Clausen, I think he'll go anywhere between 4th and 9th. I think even if he's there when we pick we won't take him though

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Yeah lets keep Campbell, I love watching skins games where he doesnt even attempt to throw the ball over ten yards.

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Shanahan wants Bradford.

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Well you all can count Clausen out for the Skins.

He doesn't have D.Rosenhause. ;)

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/clausen-chooses-wichard/]Clausen chooses Wichard | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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I know I know it's PFT, but....

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/keep-an-eye-on-redskins-and-sam-bradford/"]Keep an eye on Redskins and Sam Bradford | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

Some of you should get excited. I found the part about Bradford's doctor working for the Skins very interesting. :)

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The Andrews' news has been talked about here before. And if there's one thing we learned so far through this whole Shanahan search is that he likes everything "very interested in the Bills job" "very interested in the Bears job" "Very interested in the Gators job" etc. Not to say that he doesn't like Bradford, and it does make a lot of sense. Just saying let's not read too much into it right now

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[quote=skins89moss;646180]I rather take any other position besides QB with our 1st pick. 2nd round if we have to take a QB pick Tony Pike. Jimmy Clausen is better than Bradford.[/quote]

Someone has to play here until a player like Bradford is NFL ready, no one has any idea how long that will be. I'm not in favor of continuing to draft these QB's early in the first round searching for that aloof (franchise QB). This team has far too many holes to fill without a maximum draft, if we don't address the O-line significantly in the draft we had better raise hell in free agency.

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You know, f' it. Let's go ahead and draft a QB stick him behind this line and watch 30+ million in guaranteed money go down the tube in a hand basket because we get him killed before he even learns how to play in the NFL. I'm all for it and hey at that rate we will get to see JC behind the same line and taking the same punishment all over again!

If you cannot sense the sarcasm I do not know how much more blatant I can put it.

Placing a high profile QB behind this line is like parking a Ferrari in the middle of a highway. It is a stupid decision. Buy your Ferrari a garage first! Don’t worry, Ferrari will make a newer model next year you do not have to buy one right now.

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What about the Colt? No one talks about him anymore.

The question is strictly for the cult following, not thread worthy.

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[quote=GMScud;646804]Agreed. I want ZERO part of Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy. Guys like Pike, Lefevour, Zac Robinson, Max Hall, and others will all be available later. Plus don't forget about the beloved Colt Brennan coming back. If we have a pick inside the top 10 and we can't move down or get Okung, just draft CJ Spiller. It's a need and he's a total beast. In which case just address O-line later on in the draft and in FA.[/quote]

Thank you, can't go wrong with building the O-line, its not like there aren't stud
qb's available later in the draft

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I will be completely pissed if we draft Bradford!! The guy can't stay healthy and there is no comparison to him and Brees. Brees had a torn Labrum, which is an easy repair with surgery, Bradford's injury is just one hard hit away from putting him on the IR. Claussen looks like the most NFL ready QB that I've seen this year, especially if you want to take one with the first pick. I say if he isn't there when we pick, we trade our #1 for more picks and take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.

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[quote=GMScud;646804]Agreed. I want ZERO part of Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy. Guys like Pike, Lefevour, Zac Robinson, Max Hall, and others will all be available later. Plus don't forget about the beloved Colt Brennan coming back. If we have a pick inside the top 10 and we can't move down or get Okung, just draft CJ Spiller. It's a need and he's a total beast. In which case just address O-line later on in the draft and in FA.[/quote]

I agree with you on considering CJ Spiller. He is going to be an immediate impact player (not only does he run a 4.3 but he is also a good blocker). The two areas that need to be addressed on offensive BEFORE the QB is the line and running backs (and then we need to look at our secondary). We are using 3rd stringers in those positions right now and have no depth worth mentioning. If Okung is available we should take him, otherwise we take Spiller. At the very least we know that Campbell is OK and will put up OK numbers. I hope everyone agrees that whoever our QB is next year he will get a pounding, regardless of who we draft for the line... and before anyone starts screaming, "Aaron Rodgers has a bad line too!!" Our line is way worse than Green Bay's, we have NO running threat and to top everything off we have poor coaching. No one knows who is going to call what play. While Campbell sounded like a cryer when he said it wasn't fair, he's actually right.

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I've seen Bradford play 2 or 3 games so I really don't know if he's any good or not. But the games I saw he looked legit. Very accurate, got rid of the ball quickly, nice release.... but I think he was in shotgun just about every play. If we end up drafting this guy then Shanahan should just start the guy right away. No clipboard holding.

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[quote=Angry;647754]You know, f' it. Let's go ahead and draft a QB stick him behind this line and watch 30+ million in guaranteed money go down the tube in a hand basket because we get him killed before he even learns how to play in the NFL. I'm all for it and hey at that rate we will get to see JC behind the same line and taking the same punishment all over again!

If you cannot sense the sarcasm I do not know how much more blatant I can put it.

Placing a high profile QB behind this line is like parking a Ferrari in the middle of a highway. It is a stupid decision. Buy your Ferrari a garage first! Don’t worry, Ferrari will make a newer model next year you do not have to buy one right now.[/quote]

Well said, I like the Farrari analogy. Imagine being a rookie QB for Washington and reviewing the 2009 game tapes... suddenly taking 3 step drops and dinking to the check down TE or RB makes a lot more sense...

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[quote=Angry;647754]You know, f' it. Let's go ahead and draft a QB stick him behind this line and watch 30+ million in guaranteed money go down the tube in a hand basket because we get him killed before he even learns how to play in the NFL. I'm all for it and hey at that rate we will get to see JC behind the same line and taking the same punishment all over again!

If you cannot sense the sarcasm I do not know how much more blatant I can put it.

Placing a high profile QB behind this line is like parking a Ferrari in the middle of a highway. It is a stupid decision. Buy your Ferrari a garage first! Don’t worry, Ferrari will make a newer model next year you do not have to buy one right now.[/quote]

I think it's safe to say no matter who is under center next year, there are going to be some significant changes to the OL.

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[quote=skinsfan69;647785]I've seen Bradford play 2 or 3 games so I really don't know if he's any good or not. But the games I saw he looked legit. Very accurate, got rid of the ball quickly, nice release.... but I think he was in shotgun just about every play. If we end up drafting this guy then Shanahan should just start the guy right away. No clipboard holding.[/quote]

I think Bradford is a decent QB; however, could you really imagine him taking shots from Demarcus Ware, Umenyiora, Tuck, etc...? He would really need to watch them play for at least a year before he is thrown into the fire.

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[quote=Mattyk;647789]I think it's safe to say no matter who is under center next year, there are going to be some significant changes to the OL.[/quote]

I think so to, but the quality is going to come from the draft. There are not many good Olineman that are going to be available through FA. Chances are if they are a FA it is because someone else let them go. No matter how many changes there are to the OL in the offseason, they are still going to suck. I'd rather get JC or a journeyman killed rather than a high profile pick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;647785]I've seen Bradford play 2 or 3 games so I really don't know if he's any good or not. But the games I saw he looked legit. Very accurate, got rid of the ball quickly, nice release.... but I think he was in shotgun just about every play. If we end up drafting this guy then Shanahan should just start the guy right away. No clipboard holding.[/quote]

He's in the shotgun about 45% of the time if I recall correctly (not unlike Tom Brady). The first option should be Okung if he's there. But if he's not. I wouldn't have a problem with drafting Bradford at all. Bradford is getting scrutinized mainly because it's the popular thing to do with the top QBs coming out for the draft each year. But he's very talented.

Take Bradford in the 1st, draft Charles Brown at the top of the 2nd to be our LT, trade into the 3rd and take Calloway to be our RT. I'd be fine with that. (and ideally we trade into the 2nd and get someone like Dwyer as well) I'd rather do that than reach for an OT in the first round, just to say we got an offensive lineman.

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[quote=GMScud;646804]Agreed. I want ZERO part of Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy. Guys like Pike, Lefevour, Zac Robinson, Max Hall, and others will all be available later. Plus don't forget about the beloved Colt Brennan coming back. If we have a pick inside the top 10 and we can't move down or get Okung, just draft CJ Spiller. It's a need and he's a total beast. In which case just address O-line later on in the draft and in FA.[/quote]
To an extent I agree; but if those guys are available later, then why? Because a team doesn't need a QB or because they're more of a project QB? I don't see the need in drafting a QB in the early 2nd or so unless you're somewhat sure that he'll soon be ready to lead your offense. I'd rather hold out completely another year if that's what it takes. But we all know that good QBs have come later in the draft too, so I guess that we'll see.

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I sure hope that Bruce does what he wants to do instead of Danny. This has Danny all over it. He has been trying to get Campbell out of here for the last two years. A smart GM builds the lines first. You can't have a competative team with swinging gates infront of the QB. Look what parcells did in Miami. Built solid lines, won with Pennington, won with who ever the guy is now, running the ball with Ricky POT HEAD Williams and is fighing for playoffs this year after winning 10 games last year.

If we take a QB in the first couple of rounds it will be a disaster. Its horrible to think the people on this website know more about how to successfully build a team than the guys that actually get paid to do it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;647831]He's in the shotgun about 45% of the time if I recall correctly (not unlike Tom Brady).[B] The first option should be Okung if he's there.[/B] But if he's not. I wouldn't have a problem with drafting Bradford at all. Bradford is getting scrutinized mainly because it's the popular thing to do with the top QBs coming out for the draft each year. But he's very talented.

Take Bradford in the 1st, draft Charles Brown at the top of the 2nd to be our LT, trade into the 3rd and take Calloway to be our RT. I'd be fine with that. (and ideally we trade into the 2nd and get someone like Dwyer as well) [B]I'd rather do that than reach for an OT in the first round, just to say we got an offensive lineman.[/B][/quote]

Totally agree, we can not take a OT with our pick if Okung( and he will be)is off the board. OT is perhaps our biggest need, but why reach when you could get a quality starter in the second round. People act like if we dont go OL in the first round that our draft will be a bust.

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[quote=SKINS73;647782] While Campbell sounded like a cryer when he said it wasn't fair, he's actually right.[/quote]

I beleive he is speaking the truth also. The guy has kept his mouth shut all season. I'm glad he finally spoke up and quit trying to be a poster boy for a team that tried to screw him over so many times.