The Skins chance on making the playoffs!!!!
 

Wow..talk about being tough. I have been looking at the Skins schedule and you talk about 10 tough games up ahead. 5 of the next 10 games are against teams currently leading their division or having the potential of leading their division (Philly x2, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Detroit). Granted Detroit is behind Minnesota, but they definitely have a chance by the way they are playing. The remainder of the games are against .500 teams or worse, except for the Giants who are 4-2. Even though the Packers are a below .500 team, you can always expect them to play tough and make a run for the playoffs.

So realistically speaking, this is what the Skins would have to do to get into the playoffs..and this is the bare minimum.

We can all pretty much count on Philly winning the NFC East and I am picking the Falcons to win the NFC South (and I don't know why..LOL). That leaves St. Louis or Seattle winning the West and either Minnesota (who I am picking) or Detroit to win the North. Talk about being tough. With that said..that only leaves 2 wild cards left.

Now what the Skins have to do. The Skins will have to win against all of the .500 or below opponents. Meaning they will have to beat the Packers, Cowboys, Bengals, and 49er's. Ok..now for the above .500 teams. They MUST beat Detroit and the Giants without a doubt. Both of these 2 teams can potentially be a Wild Card Team. If they win all of the above mentions games, that will make them 8-4. Now what they must do is take one game from Philly (but both would be awesome). By winning one game against the Eagles will definitely give them an edge up on the Wild Card race. They must also win one game against either Pitt. or Minnesota. Or they will need to win both if they don't take one against the Eagles. I don't see a team making it into the playoffs from the NFC with less than 10 wins. There are too few good teams out there so I see only 6 teams out there getting 10 wins and those will make it to the playoffs.

Ok..in short here is my predictions right now:

NFC East- Philly
NFC West- St. Louis
NFC North- Minnesota
NFC South- Atlanta

Wild Card Rankings
1. Seattle
2. Detroit
3. Giants (this could definitely change)
4. Green Bay (they will drop when the Skins beat them next week)
5. New Orleans
6. Redskins
7. any other 2-4 team has a chance of turning it around.

Well that's enough said. Don't get me wrong..the Skins still have a chance to get into the playoffs and definitely be above .500. They will just have to step it up on Offense and the Defense will have to keep it up. I am still hoping that they can get in. But they have to win the next 2 games without a doubt to still have a chance.

Post your thoughts and opinions.

GO SKINS!!!!!!

DRagontat

If our Offense gets on track we'll be unstopable. Big 'IF' though...

3-7 the rest of the way.

Sun 10/31 Green Bay L
Sun 11/7 at Detroit L
Sun 11/14 Cincinnati W
Sun 11/21 at Philadelphia L
Sun 11/28 at Pittsburgh L
Sun 12/5 NY Giants L
Sun 12/12 Philadelphia L
Sat 12/18 at San Francisco W
Sun 12/26 at Dallas W
Sun 1/2 Minnesota L

[QUOTE=EEich]3-7 the rest of the way.

Sun 10/31 Green Bay L
Sun 11/7 at Detroit L
Sun 11/14 Cincinnati W
Sun 11/21 at Philadelphia L
Sun 11/28 at Pittsburgh L
Sun 12/5 NY Giants L
Sun 12/12 Philadelphia L
Sat 12/18 at San Francisco W
Sun 12/26 at Dallas W
Sun 1/2 Minnesota L[/QUOTE] I disagree..and here is why.

Green Bay-Yes they crushed Dallas..but Dallas has a horrible D right now. I see the Skins confusing Favre and shutting down the running game.

Detroit-Actually, I don't see them as that good of a team. Basically no D and not much of an offense in my opinion. Worst Offense in the NFC..yes worst than Skins and 2nd to worst Defense..hmm..no way a win

Philly-Not as dominating as you might think. They should have lost to the Browns and the Browns showed their weaknesses yesterday.

Pitt- Rookie QB at the helm that is going to get eaten up by the Blitz.

Giants-The only reason they won was because of 7 turnovers and they barely beat us.

Cowboys- It's payback time..simple as that

Minnesota- Now this is a tough one..well rounded team

I see the Skins finishing 7-3 or 6-4 at the worst.

I think you're assuming that we're going to turn this around and be a good team all of a sudden. I'm not making that assumption. We have the worst offense in the NFL and I don't see that improving drastically with our current QB. I guess we'll see, won't we?


[QUOTE=dragontat7169]I disagree..and here is why.

Green Bay-Yes they crushed Dallas..but Dallas has a horrible D right now. I see the Skins confusing Favre and shutting down the running game.

Detroit-Actually, I don't see them as that good of a team. Basically no D and not much of an offense in my opinion. Worst Offense in the NFC..yes worst than Skins and 2nd to worst Defense..hmm..no way a win

Philly-Not as dominating as you might think. They should have lost to the Browns and the Browns showed their weaknesses yesterday.

Pitt- Rookie QB at the helm that is going to get eaten up by the Blitz.

Giants-The only reason they won was because of 7 turnovers and they barely beat us.

Cowboys- It's payback time..simple as that

Minnesota- Now this is a tough one..well rounded team

I see the Skins finishing 7-3 or 6-4 at the worst.[/QUOTE]

One game at a time.

Let's start by beating the Packers this week and worry about making the playoffs when the time comes, if it does.

I'm not assuming we are a good team. We ARE a Good team. And as far as us being the worst team offensively speaking, I think you should look at the stats. Detroit is ranked worse than us. Also you need to look at why we have lost and by how much. No one team has dominated us in any loss this season. We have lost all games by a TD or less. And in those games, they were lost by mistakes (mostly mental) of our team..not where the other team beat us..but more where we beat ourselves. And I won't mention the poor officiating either. oops..I just did.

The Skins are NOT as bad as some people would like to think. They have made mistakes and mental errors. If they can come in and play mistake free football..they will win more games than you think. That is the key. The Defense will keep them in all the games. The O just needs to pick it up.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]One game at a time.

Let's start by beating the Packers this week and worry about making the playoffs when the time comes, if it does.[/QUOTE]
Hey Matty..I was just trying to keep everyone optimistic and keep their hopes up. Some people are writing the Skins off already..I am just trying to let everyone know that they still have a chance and too keep their hopes up.

Good teams don't go 2-4. Good teams don't make mental mistakes. Good teams don't blame bad officiating. Good teams can move the ball on offense.

[QUOTE=dragontat7169]I'm not assuming we are a good team. We ARE a Good team. And as far as us being the worst team offensively speaking, I think you should look at the stats. Detroit is ranked worse than us. Also you need to look at why we have lost and by how much. No one team has dominated us in any loss this season. We have lost all games by a TD or less. And in those games, they were lost by mistakes (mostly mental) of our team..not where the other team beat us..but more where we beat ourselves. And I won't mention the poor officiating either. oops..I just did.

The Skins are NOT as bad as some people would like to think. They have made mistakes and mental errors. If they can come in and play mistake free football..they will win more games than you think. That is the key. The Defense will keep them in all the games. The O just needs to pick it up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=dragontat7169]Hey Matty..I was just trying to keep everyone optimistic and keep their hopes up. Some people are writing the Skins off already..I am just trying to let everyone know that they still have a chance and too keep their hopes up.[/QUOTE]
I hear ya

[QUOTE=EEich]Good teams don't go 2-4. Good teams don't make mental mistakes. Good teams don't blame bad officiating. Good teams can move the ball on offense.[/QUOTE]
What is your definition of GOOD? I guess a good team is the Dolphins of '72 or the Skins of '82. If you think good teams have to be above .500 then you are sadly mistaken. Good teams are teams that are in every game no matter what. That is what I define as a good team. One play either way can change the outcome of the game. To me a Good team is one play away from winning all their games. That is the definition of a good team.

I think you are defining good as Great or Awesome or Spectactular.

Well no team in the league is a good team Eeich according to your descriptions. Every team is guilty of one these at one time or another. The question is can Gibbs get the offense to play to win rather than play not to lose. Gibb's record says he can. The 81' team went 8-3 after losing the first 5 games. The Green Bay game will be the test. Three TD's anyway we can get them and we win.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]Well no team in the league is a good team Eeich according to your descriptions. Every team is guilty of one these at one time or another. The question is can Gibbs get the offense to play to win rather than play not to lose. Gibb's record says he can. The 81' team went 8-3 after losing the first 5 games. The Green Bay game will be the test. Three TD's anyway we can get them and we win.[/QUOTE]
well said Sunra..very well put. The Skins have been 1 play away from winning all their games..whether it's making a good play or NOT making a bad one. Either way you look at it..they are a Good Team. And the Skins have improved greatly IMO. I think you will see a new team against the Packers.

I disagree with you. Good teams win, bad teams lose. Of course over a season good teams may play bad on occasion but over the season, the win-loss record is the indicator of what is good. Good teams don't end the season below .500. You may think they're better than they're playing... but the true measure of what's good isn't how they should play... but how they do play. That's why coaches get fired.

Good teams are not one play away from winning games. Good teams find a way to win them, or most of them, no matter what. Our defense is good enough to keep us in games, but our offense isn't good enough to win them. I don't believe in moral victories.

A 9-7 team is a good team, but not Great or Awesome or Spectacular. A 7-9 team is not.

[QUOTE=dragontat7169]What is your definition of GOOD? I guess a good team is the Dolphins of '72 or the Skins of '82. If you think good teams have to be above .500 then you are sadly mistaken. Good teams are teams that are in every game no matter what. That is what I define as a good team. One play either way can change the outcome of the game. To me a Good team is one play away from winning all their games. That is the definition of a good team.

I think you are defining good as Great or Awesome or Spectactular.[/QUOTE]

If Brunell stays at the helm, we go 5-11, if Ramsey comes in we go 7-9.

You say the 'skins will be playing division leaders, but remember what KC did to the division leader the Falcons...?

at least the falcons aren't in the running for awesome defenses of the year anymore...

If we can somehow win on sun vs. Green Bay good things will start to happen. I really think this could be a turning point in the season. For good or bad.

:httr:

i think this game decides who the starting QB is for the rest of the year...

[QUOTE=That Guy]i think this game decides who the starting QB is for the rest of the year...[/QUOTE]

I think Green Bay will stick with Favre ;)

when he retires they'll be soo screwed (at least in the short term)...

Mistakes hurt us in the first 6 games...........we could've easily been 4-2 with wins at Giants, Dallas, Browns........our defense has been BETTER than anyone anticipated even WITH Arrington HURT!!! But I'm a realist since we are now at 2-4 and say with wins against Cinncinati, Giants, Dallas, and 49ers........ we might get one more....with young QBs they have up and down games so perhaps Detroit........that brings us to
7-9....not good enough for playoffs this year. But give Joe another year...a draft to fill in the holes....and next year........PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I think Green Bay will stick with Favre ;)[/QUOTE]

Thats pretty funny smootsmack. I was thinking the same thing. :D

I am trying to stay opptimistic(sp) about our year so far, I mean we are 2-4, but who knows maybe the bye came at the right time for us this year and Gibbs & Co. has got the time to iron some stuff out. I am going to give us a chance until we deffinitly have a loosing record, as of right now we still have a chance to pull it out.

Now with that being said I in no way think that we will get our offense turned around with Brunell under center, I may be wrong but that is why I an not the coach. I also belive that our key to the playoffs next year will be that we keep Williams on our sidelines next year.

This game may be the season right here. Big difference between 2-5 and 3-4. Even at 3-4 we have a hill to climb, but there would still be hope. At 2-5, we'd have to run the table or 1 more loss tops and we haven't played 2 against Philly yet.

The skins have almost no chance of making the playoffs this year. This year will be Gibbs' year to get up-to-speed on how the game is being played in today's nfl (attacking D's , etc.). Next year will be the year when I would be very disappointed if the skins did not get in the playoffs.

Other than Philly, no team in the NFC has looked really good all of this year. For the moment, concede the NFC East to the Eagles and look at what the Skins will have to do to make the playoffs as a wild card.


The Cowboys have 2 wins - one over the Skins - but they are faltering . Dallas will be lucky to go 7-9; they will probably go 6-10.

The Giants have 4 wins with four easy games left on their schedule (Chicago, Cincy, Ariz and Dallas) The Skins MUST win the re-match with the Giants or the Giants will win 9 or 10 games and claim one wild-card slot.


If Atlanta wins the South Division what's the prognosis for the rest of the division?

Saints defense is awful and there is supposedly "internal team strife". Saints have 3 wins now maybe they can win 7 games.

Panthers have 1 win now and won't win 6 games.

Bucs have2 wins now and QB problems. Give them a max of 7 wins.

Bottom Line here: Wild card team not coming from the NFC South.



If Minny wins the NFC North what's the prognosis for the rest of the division?

Packers have 3 wins now and play well one week and terribly the next. After the Skins on Sunday, I see only 3 easy games for the Pack. I doubt they will do any better than 8-8. Skins MUST win Sunday - see below.

Lions have 4 wins now and some soft spots in their upcoming schedule, The Lions could win 9 games this year - if the beat the Skins in 2 weeks. Call the Lions 8-8 or 9-7. Skins must win next Sunday - see below.

Bears just stink. Forget them.

Bottom Line here: Two NFC North teams are playoff contenders in the 9-7 or 8-8 range.


In the NFC West you have two teams that are absolutely irrelevant in terms of the playoffs. Arizona and SF won't be there. So the question is who will win the division and what will be the record of the other team.

Seattle has 3 wins and a cupcake schedule. Their next 6 games are Carolina, at SF, at St. Louis, Miami, Buffalo, Dallas. That should give them at least 7 wins and probably 8 wins with four left to play. And in that final four games, they get Arizona. Seattle will win 9 games at least.

St. Louis has 4 wins and a cupcake schedule. they have Buffalo, SF, Carolina and Arizona left. They will win at least 9 games.


THEREFORE, the Redskins need 9 wins and some good fortune in tiebreakers to make the playoffs. If they get 10 wins, they are pretty much a mortal lock to be there. So they will need to go at least 7-3 for the rest of the season to have a shot at the playoffs and 8-2 to lock up a spot.

Their four toughest games should be Philly (twice), Pittsburgh and Minnesota. They have to win against everyone else and win two of these four tough games to sail into the playoffs. If they lose even one more game against the "lesser competition" such as the Packers or Lions, they will have to sweep the four tough games to be sure of getting in.


The Skins still have a shot, but there isn't a lot of room left for error...

[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/member.php?u=35"][/url] Sortscurmudgeoun-I agree totally..the Skins must win the next 2 weeks for them to have a shot. I think if they lose either game..then they may be out of the running. It is a tough road to climb..but it is possible. If they lose one of the next 2 games, they may still have a slim shot..but only if the Packers, Lions and Giants go on a losing streak. In fact they must win 1 of the next 2 just to make it to .500.

Green Bay is definitely going to be the test against our niched up defense. Granted the D is awesome the players are putting their bodies on the line in hopes that the Offense will pick it up. If we don't start generating some offense soon (and I mean this week), I don't see the Defense as making it. They have been beat up too much and have sacrificed so much. They are hurting and need some help.