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MTK 10-26-2004 09:45 AM

Skins vs. Packers gameplan/predictions thread
 
Let 'em rip

illdefined 10-26-2004 10:07 AM

ugh, we will lose again if our air game still isn't there. Gibbs finally realized Portis's strengths and weaknesses, we'll continue to see Sellers in as fullback and more pitchouts and tosses, Portis WILL produce this way (Betts too).

the problem is, if Sellers is in, we give up a TE or receiver and Brunell will be running around again and throwing it away when pressure comes. basically, this game will hinge on our receivers getting SO open that Brunell would dare to throw the ball to them AND close enough for them to actually catch it.

our defense will need our best linebacker spying Ahman when we send the others in to blitz. hopefully LaVar is ready, although i have confidence in Pierce to be able to track and tackle him. our DBs will have to hit hard cuz Favre is accurate and WILL get the ball in the receivers hands...thankfully we have some hardhitting DBs! Springs is big, Taylor is finally getting comfortable, and our smallest DB is 'Iron Man' Smoot!

Brunell is under the ultimate pressure now, especially after Portis's big day, the QB is generally considered the broken part of the offense. how he reacts to this pressure will determine this game and basically our season. it could make him think LESS to get him nice and instinctual with those clutch laser TD passes to Gardner we seen him do, or make him think too MUCH and continue having him throw it away or off-mark like we seen him do more...

question is, if he has a bad 1st half, think Gibbs would put Ramsey in? it's our season now...

cpayne5 10-26-2004 10:09 AM

Our offense has to step up this week in order for us to win this game. If the O scores two or three times (TDs) and doesn't turn the ball over, I think we can win. We have to contain Ahman Green and force Favre into mistakes. If all this happens, I see us winning 24-14. If not we lose, 28-10.

Gmanc711 10-26-2004 10:19 AM

Ahhh lets see.

First of all, this game makes or breaks our season, I think. If we win this week, I think we will start go get on a roll and head into Philly 5-4, because I think we still have a better team than Detroit or Cinci. But one week at a time so ....

This game depends on our offense. Our D is going to give up somthing, GB will be able to put up a couple TDS, thats without any help from our offense. Our defense is good, but I still dont think that were good enough to stop GB like we have. 14 points is pretty damn good against the Packers if we can do that. Now if our offense has no passing game, we wont win. I think Portis will have a big day, but if our passing game isnt there, its not going to matter. This is Brunell's week to silence all the critics, if he stinks this week, I'm going to go crazy. I think we win, since were at home coming off a bye. I'll say 24-14, however, I'm not holding my breath for us to score 24 either.

FRPLG 10-26-2004 10:27 AM

I am the eternal pessimist...We get pounded in this game guys...sorry. This is by far the best offense we've seen. With the way our offesne has played expect our Defense to be on the field a good 40 minutes which means big points for Favre and company. I am thinking like a good 31 to 10 thrashing seems about right. Only way that changes is if Burnell gets hurt early and we go to Ramsey. This will change our play calling to a more downfield attack (since he can't move) which could open things up a bit and keep our defense rested. I am not a Ramsey disciple but I think it is time he gets his chance. Maybe this will be the day.

Big C 10-26-2004 11:07 AM

i just cant see how anyone who is a fan of any team can think that they are gonna lose, especially by a big margin.

FRPLG 10-26-2004 11:19 AM

Just because I am a fan doesn't mean I can't be objective about the team. We suck right now...I don't like it, you don't like it, no around here likes it but it is true. So don't give me bs about thinking we are going to get our asses handed to us. The true mark of a fan isn't fooling yourself into thinking they're going to win every game...it's supporting them even when they are losing. Be realistic man...does it make much sense to try and think we are going to win every game? Not if you're honest with yourself.

FRPLG 10-26-2004 11:21 AM

Man I hate people who just sit around and drink the god damn cool-aid all day long.

Paintrain 10-26-2004 11:42 AM

I think this is the make or break game for the season. With a win, we go to 3-4 and are on the brink of respectability and maybe building some momentum. A loss drops us to 2-5 and makes breaking .500 a difficult task. I think our defense will keep the game close but it's going to be up to the passing game to pull us through. Breaking down position by position:

QB-Packers
RB-Even
WRs-Even (based on QB play, with even QB play I'd give the nod to the Redskins)
OL-Packers
DL-Redskins
LB-Redskins
DB-Redskins
Special teams-Packers
Coaching-Redskins

Redskins 20-14.

RedskinRat 10-26-2004 11:43 AM

If our offense turns up we'll win big. If not it'll be a long day.

The D will make a huge statement regardless.

memphisskin 10-26-2004 12:31 PM

The one thing I expect to see this week is Brunell playing smarter football. He is probably going to keep on missing on a lot of deep balls, he may keep overthrowing some guys and underthrowing other guys, but if he can go a couple of games without throwing a pick 6 then our offense will at least stop beating us and our defense won't have to play a perfect game for us to win.

This week we have a good chance to win. I think Springs or Washington is going to score for our defense this week.

illdefined 10-26-2004 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=memphisskin]The one thing I expect to see this week is Brunell playing smarter football. He is probably going to keep on missing on a lot of deep balls, he may keep overthrowing some guys and underthrowing other guys, but if he can go a couple of games without throwing a pick 6 then our offense will at least stop beating us and our defense won't have to play a perfect game for us to win.[/QUOTE]

expect or wish for? Brunell plays it TOO smart, he hasn't had a direct pick in a while (just off those tips), because he'll either throw it away, or 'lead' a receiver so uh 'much' that no defender (nor receiver) can get it.

he's been playing TOO conservative. he doesn't throw the random rookie INTs that Ramsey still has in his system. like him or not, Brunell is a vet, and he's got instincts. the best times i seen him play is when he's on the move and listening to those instincts. like when he sidestepped that cowboy and drilled a TD to Gardner. when he follows the gameplan too strictly and all of the 'rules' is when he gets too soft and throws it away or overthinks his passes.

aehs77 10-26-2004 02:54 PM

i expect fred smoot to score more touchdowns than brunell and us to win 17-3

hurrykaine 10-26-2004 02:58 PM

ESPN reported that the packers' secondary is severely banged up with Sharper and Al Harris, both suffering knee injuries. If Gardner and Coles can't get any separation this time around, and Brunell doesn't hit 'em deep, it will be a fantastic opportunity missed.

Of course, it's also been reported that Favre's wife has been diagnosed with breast cancer....that's the last thing we need...another spirited Favre performance in the face of adversity.

My prediction - the offense has a good (but not great) game all around. Skins win 24-17, with Favre throwing a couple of picks.

Gmanc711 10-26-2004 03:45 PM

I agree about Favre's wife. Favre is one of my favorite non skins in the league, so I'll take the time to wish him and his family the absolute best. With that being said, I hope the spirit stays out of him this time around, he could have beat the 82nd airborne with the performance he had last year.

dragontat7169 10-26-2004 03:49 PM

Redskis win 17-16.

Yes this is going to be a close game. In order for the Skins to win, they will need to disguise the Blitz on Defense. Favre is too good of a QB and will hit the Hot Receiver when needed. That's how he picked Dallas' D apart last week. The announcers even said that Parcell's likes to blitz on 3rd and 7 or more. Well Brett picked them apart. The Skins are also known for Blitzing on 3rd and long so they will need to mix it up and disguise it whenever possible or fake it and drop back into coverage.

I see the Defense only allowing 1 TD but the Packers making 3 field goals. I see our offense scoring 2 TD's but one is set up by the Defense and kicking 1 field goal. I think it will be a close game and we will be sitting on the edge of sits throughout the whole game.

GO SKINS!!!

MarkBrunell 10-26-2004 03:52 PM

You're too kind. I mean way too kind. Really. Those aren't instincts I'm hearing... it's my heart beating 1000BPM and the defense's footsteps. I appreciate you thinking I'm smart... but throwing the ball away is way easier than hitting a receiver... and I have gotten pretty good at it. That sidestep thing was actually a trip... clumsey me. In addition to a dead left arm... I have two left feet.

Green Bay 6 - Washington 4

- #8 MB


[QUOTE=illdefined]expect or wish for? Brunell plays it TOO smart, he hasn't had a direct pick in a while (just off those tips), because he'll either throw it away, or 'lead' a receiver so uh 'much' that no defender (nor receiver) can get it.

he's been playing TOO conservative. he doesn't throw the random rookie INTs that Ramsey still has in his system. like him or not, Brunell is a vet, and he's got instincts. the best times i seen him play is when he's on the move and listening to those instincts. like when he sidestepped that cowboy and drilled a TD to Gardner. when he follows the gameplan too strictly and all of the 'rules' is when he gets too soft and throws it away or overthinks his passes.[/QUOTE]

illdefined 10-26-2004 04:17 PM

we shouldnt be talking about Favre's wife. we should wish her the best. Favre is one of the best QBs who's ever played the game, no matter what the circumstance, so thats why we should be worried.

celts32 10-26-2004 04:27 PM

Packers 24
Redskins 13

You just can't win games against good teams without scoring points. Hopefully, this is the week they start scoring, but I will start believing when I start seeing. Don't misunderstand, I am still totally on board with Gibbs and the team and they eventually will turn the offense around. I just don't think this is a game they can show up with half a team playing well and expect to win, and I didn't even see glimpses last week that this passing game is about to erupt...

SkinsRock 10-26-2004 05:15 PM

The key is to stop Green and for our offense to score [I]SOME[/I] points.
Make Favre try to win the game and he will force a couple picks.

Prediction:
I think they will come in over-confident after the last couple weeks, and we will take advantage of their mistakes. Our defense will hold them to one TD and get a couple turnovers...and one will be run back for a TD (Taylor?). Green will be held under 80 yards. Portis will break 150 yards, including a long run for a TD. Brunell will actually have a decent, not great, but decent game...around 250 yards passing.

Skins 24
Packers 13

SmootSmack 10-26-2004 05:26 PM

We should hope for another ugly game like the one against the Bears. We have to control the clock and keep the ball out of Favre and Green's hands. If it's a shootout, we're in trouble.

I think we can pull off a 17-10 win

BIGREDSKINFAN63 10-26-2004 06:56 PM

redskins-21- rumprangers-10,favre will not last the game.

SKINSnCANES 10-26-2004 08:04 PM

well, first off you guys are under the assumption farve wont get knocked out of the game, AGAIN, against our D. heh.

But bascially its all based on whether or not Gibbs game up with a plan that involves touchdowns this week. We need to put over 30 on the board this week to show we can.

Redskins8588 10-26-2004 08:22 PM

I agree with SKINSnCANES I feel that our D can keep Favre and Co. in check but our offense will still need to have a big day. I also think that our D will keep this from getting into a shoot out. If it does become a shoot out stick a fork in us cause our O will not be able to keep par.

manicd 10-26-2004 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]I agree with SKINSnCANES I feel that our D can keep Favre and Co. in check but our offense will still need to have a big day. I also think that our D will keep this from getting into a shoot out. If it does become a shoot out stick a fork in us cause our O will not be able to keep par.[/QUOTE]


I just looked at the stats, and GB has a 51.6% 3rd down conversion rate(first in league)and a 71.4% 4th down conversion rate. That can kill our defense, so our offense better have more success and less 3 and outs. Hope that 51.6% isn't first in the league after this Sunday.

redrock-skins 10-26-2004 09:09 PM

We need this one and there's nothing that leads me to think we will win this game. That said, I will go against my own prediction and pick the Skins 28-23

SKINSnCANES 10-26-2004 09:44 PM

our O can keep it from being a shootout. a shootout involves two sides scoring. we can not get plays in and use up the clock.

well i take that back, our offense has been scoring, just not for our team.

Big game this week, a win here turns the season around and gets us on track. I knew wed start out rough but i still want to see us in the playoff hunt

Redskins8588 10-26-2004 09:49 PM

I made a bet with a guy at work here, the bet is that Ahman Green will get 100 yds rushing on sunday, now I know that he could but I bet him $5 that our D will keep him contained. What are your thoughts? Was it a stupid bet?

That Guy 10-26-2004 10:24 PM

our average is 87ypg, BAL/CHI each had a 100 yard rusher... if he only gets 15 carries like he's been getting i think we'll hold him under 100 yards, BUT since our O can't score thusfar, i think he'll get a lot more carries OR there will be a bunch of short passes to eat up time so favre can go home...

Big C 10-26-2004 10:44 PM

[QUOTE=FRPLG]Just because I am a fan doesn't mean I can't be objective about the team. We suck right now...I don't like it, you don't like it, no around here likes it but it is true. So don't give me bs about thinking we are going to get our asses handed to us. The true mark of a fan isn't fooling yourself into thinking they're going to win every game...it's supporting them even when they are losing. Be realistic man...does it make much sense to try and think we are going to win every game? Not if you're honest with yourself.[/QUOTE]

didnt give u any bs man. take ur pills bro

FRPLG 10-27-2004 09:47 AM

[QUOTE=Big C]i just cant see how anyone who is a fan of any team can think that they are gonna lose, especially by a big margin.[/QUOTE]

I take that as questioning my loyalty to the Skins. To me, that is BS. Go F&%$ yourself Big C

Redskins_P 10-27-2004 09:50 AM

[QUOTE=FRPLG]I take that as questioning my loyalty to the Skins. To me, that is BS. Go F&%$ yourself Big C[/QUOTE]


From the words of the great Rodney King....."Can't we all just get along?"

FRPLG 10-27-2004 10:54 AM

It's tough to get along with idiots. I get along fine with normal people though. You seem normal.

Big C 10-27-2004 11:24 AM

lol the idiot is the one who gets angry, being you. why cant we all just rasta from creation

celts32 10-27-2004 02:56 PM

What's the point of having a thread to predict the game if anyone who picks against the Skins is ripped on? Thinking they will lose is not the same as wanting them to lose! Based on what i have seen this season I don't think they are ready yet to beat a team like GB. That does not mean that i won't be hoping like hell that I am wrong on Sunday. I thought this was America...There is nothing wrong with being criticle of your team. If i want smoke blown up my arse I can just log onto Redskins.com. Five minutes on that site and you can't tell 1-6 from 7-0 anymore...

Big C 10-27-2004 03:34 PM

there was no ripping damn guys, you are all over reacting!!! sorry if i offended anyone!!! jesus

MTK 10-27-2004 03:59 PM

Don't tell me I'm gonna have to lock a gameplan/predictions thread. :doh:


A full moon must be coming soon, cause things sure have gotten wacky around here lately.

:cheeky-sm

JoeRedskin 10-27-2004 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Don't tell me I'm gonna have to lock a gameplan/predictions thread. :doh:


A full moon must be coming soon, cause things sure have gotten wacky around here lately.

:cheeky-sm[/QUOTE]

I changed my mind I want to vote for Kerry and Green Bay.

Who's bringing the kool-aid and brownies.

SKINSnCANES 10-27-2004 06:15 PM

Brett Farve has gone through a lot in the past year whether hes a football player or not. His wife has cancer, his brother in law dies last week, his dad died last year. None of those things are joking matters.

As far as the picking against the skins. You faith and love of the skins has nothing to do with making a predictino about the game. In fact in a predictions thread who you want to win should have nothing to do with who you think is more qualafied. Argue with facts. Everyone here wants teh skins to win and its not the point of this thread.

Ill look up sites for you guys if you want message boards based on opinion and feel free to discuss anything and everything. but lets limit it to educated opinion here.

If you bash the cowboys though and dont have a good reason to back it up ill let it slide though (wink wink)

monk81 10-27-2004 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=Paintrain]I think this is the make or break game for the season. With a win, we go to 3-4 and are on the brink of respectability and maybe building some momentum. A loss drops us to 2-5 and makes breaking .500 a difficult task. I think our defense will keep the game close but it's going to be up to the passing game to pull us through. Breaking down position by position:

QB-Packers
RB-Even
WRs-Even (based on QB play, with even QB play I'd give the nod to the Redskins)
OL-Packers
DL-Redskins
LB-Redskins
DB-Redskins
Special teams-Packers
Coaching-Redskins

Redskins 20-14.[/QUOTE]

Paintrain.......I concur for the most part.........In live in texas so got to see the Cowboy/Packer game....Sherman called an EXCELLENT game plan last week when he took over for his assistant who just came back from heart bypass surgery. So perhaps call it EVEN on coaching........ I think it's going to come down to whether we can muster a better passing attack than we have in past weeks. If Burnell can get the ball down field, then Coles should have a good game against their secondary, especially if Sharper is hurting with his knee injury or doesn't play. Favre is amazing and the Pack has an excellent O line, their receivers have good speed, and the Pack has a solid running back in Green but he's nursing an achilles injury. Their defense is their weakness, while our defense is our strength....Our CBs can match their WRs. The Redskins cannot turn the ball over with stupid mistakes. Since our D is stronger......Redskins win 17-13.
We also have an election outcome riding on this game........ :D


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