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Funny how everyone is "so sorry" as soon as they get caught. Things continue to look up for the GOP in the mid-term elections this fall...

Tisk tisk Mr. Reid. I mean, who uses the word "negro" anymore anyway??

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid"]Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment - Yahoo! News[/URL]

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The truth is many of these politicians, from both sides, are from super rich white, out of touch with reality, families. They have very little in common with the average minority and probably have limited interactions with them too.

Hence these types of comments.

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No one uses negro, except blacks on occasion. But even that is rare.

A white person saying negro is almost as bad as Michael Richards calling blacks Afro-Americans.

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blacks?

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[quote=hooskins;652963][B]No one uses negro[/B], except blacks on occasion. But even that is rare.

A white person saying negro is almost as bad as Michael Richards calling blacks Afro-Americans.[/quote]

Actually, it's on the 2010 US Census. People are asked to pick Black, African American, or Negro.

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[quote=cpayne5;652968]Actually, it's on the 2010 US Census. People are asked to pick Black, African American, or Negro.[/quote]

No kidding?!

What is w/ Senate leaders...they always turn out to be dbags. Was Frist just before Reid or further back? I remember seeing a documentary how his "family business" which I believe is Health South had taken the government and general public for billions in bogus claims etc. He was the same POS moron who stood on the Senate floor and swore his diagnosis of Terri Schiavo (sp?) proved she had full mental capacity... and then like two weeks later the autopsy showed she was brain-dead. Sooooo yeah not only a crook but a really shitty doc as well.

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[quote=GMScud;652947]Funny how everyone is "so sorry" as soon as they get caught. Things continue to look up for the GOP in the mid-term elections this fall...

Tisk tisk Mr. Reid. I mean, who uses the word "negro" anymore anyway??

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid"]Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment - Yahoo! News[/URL][/quote]

No biggie. Reid apologized, Obama's not tripping off it.

Oh, don't count your chickens just yet for the mid-terms. Lots of politics left before we go to the polls.

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[quote=GMScud;652947]Funny how everyone is "so sorry" as soon as they get caught. Things continue to look up for the GOP in the mid-term elections this fall...

Tisk tisk Mr. Reid. I mean, who uses the word "negro" anymore anyway??

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid"]Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment - Yahoo! News[/URL][/quote]
Maybe he will say " sorry for how horribly we have failed the American people the past 3 years " .... but I doubt that . Not many in Nevada like him anymore .

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Sorry is a word used to remorse accidental situations and circumstances. In this particular instance the word is not appropriately being applied.

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WHOA!!! I am just shocked that a liberal would say such things, esp Harry Reid! I thought Reid and his fellow liberals were above such comments unlike conservatives!

Harry Reid looks down on everyone! Remember those comments he made about tourists stinking up the Capitol building during the summer? The guy is an elitist who is completely out of touch with reality. Time to get rid of this bum!

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[quote=cpayne5;652968]Actually, it's on the 2010 US Census. People are asked to pick Black, African American, or Negro.[/quote]

Really? I am a Black man, not Negro, or Nigger, African American, I know who I am and what I am, I don't need anymore label's to describe me, I can careless about the racist here or anywhere, I wouldn't doubt that some of you here said it behind close door's or in presence of your good "ole boy buddies", You are what you are, simple minded and stupid, and I am sure if you feel like that now, you will feel that way forever.

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[quote=12thMan;652998]No biggie. Reid apologized, Obama's not tripping off it.

Oh, don't count your chickens just yet for the mid-terms. Lots of politics left before we go to the polls.[/quote]

No biggie? Strongly disagree there. If it was someone on the other side of the aisle, Rham and Co would be up in arms big time. Obviously Obama isn't going to be doing his party any favors if he flips out on his own Senate Majority Leader. You are African-American, right? Would you be upset if a close co-worker said these things about you?

As far as the mid-terms, the Dems are gonna lose their 60-40 for sure. Check this out:

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/06/democrat-senators-governors-election-obama]Democrats face midterm elections exodus | World news | The Guardian[/url]

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[quote=cpayne5;652968]Actually, it's on the 2010 US Census. People are asked to pick Black, African American, or Negro.[/quote]

I wonder who checks off the Negro box? I mean really...

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I am curious. What is offensive about the term Negro? Just....no longer in vogue? A matter of PC?
AND, I am not trying to offend here.

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[quote=Hog1;653090]I am curious. What is offensive about the term Negro? Just....no longer in vogue? A matter of PC?
AND, I am not trying to offend here.[/quote]

My best friend's grandparents (who are white) used the term Negro to my face, but they also call Asians, "Orientals" and I think its just because they don't know any better. It's the time period lived through so I don't think badly of them at all.

But if someone I'd say under the age of 50 started throwing the word Negro around, I'd be like what the hell? There are too many bad images and stories tied to the word. I'm also not down for people using the term, "colored" which seems to be trying to make a comeback. I'm just black. Not Negro, not African-American. Just black. I'm not speaking for all black people, just for myself, but if someone addressed me as Negro, I'd probably kick them in the junk.

To me it's kind of like calling someone Japanese a "Jap". It's just in really, really poor taste.

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[quote=GMScud;653075]No biggie? Strongly disagree there. If it was someone on the other side of the aisle, Rham and Co would be up in arms big time. Obviously Obama isn't going to be doing his party any favors if he flips out on his own Senate Majority Leader. You are African-American, right? Would you be upset if a close co-worker said these things about you?

As far as the mid-terms, the Dems are gonna lose their 60-40 for sure. Check this out:

[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/06/democrat-senators-governors-election-obama"]Democrats face midterm elections exodus | World news | The Guardian[/URL][/quote]

No biggie as far as this won't have a big impact on Reid's chances of winning or losing his seat in Nevada. He's already down in the polls and I don't think this comment will sink him any further. But I guess that remains to be seen. He certainly didn't do himself any favors that's for sure. Further, this is hardly Harry Reid's first bone headed comment. He has foot in mouth disease about as much as Joe Biden does, but for some reason Reid's comments tend to fly under the radar.

But let's cut to the chase with this. Do I think Reid is a racist, I don't know for sure but I'm inclined to say no. Reason being is his legislative record has been towards social justice, which primarily benefits minorities and people of color, and the fact that he has no track record, that I'm aware of, that suggest otherwise. I think Harry Reid is just culturally disconnected. That's my take on it. And I don't think he's disconnected on the issue of race alone.

Is there a double standard, I'm not so sure on that one either. When I think of the recent Republican history, names like Strom Thurman, Senator Jim Demint, Maj. Leader Trent Lott, AG John Ashcroft, Gov. Haley Barbour, and Sen. George Allen have either delved into playing racial politics or displayed racially insensitive behavior. More recently Chip Saltsman, who was running for RNC Chair, was circulating the Barack the Magic Negro tape. That was, what, seven months ago? It's through that lens which most people, indeed minorities, tend to view the GOP when it comes to race. It's not entirely justified, as we know that Republicans aren't racists, but many in the GOP until this day still refuse to denounce the confederate flag. So the seemingly double standard has it's roots in recent history.

As far President Obama and Rahm jumping all over some comment made by either side, I disagree. The president has gone out of his way to avoid controversial statements like this from both sides, and I can assure you they have more important issues to worry about than who's tossing around the word negro. If that were they case, they would have pounced on Joe Biden, and a few others, during the campaign when Biden called Obama clean and articulate, but they didn't. The last thing the president and the White House want to get bogged down with is the issue of race.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;653101]My best friend's grandparents (who are white) used the term Negro to my face, but they also call Asians, "Orientals" and I think its just because they don't know any better. It's the time period lived through so I don't think badly of them at all.

But if someone I'd say under the age of 50 started throwing the word Negro around, I'd be like what the hell? There are too many bad images and stories tied to the word. I'm also not down for people using the term, "colored" which seems to be trying to make a comeback. I'm just black. Not Negro, not African-American. Just black. I'm not speaking for all black people, just for myself, but if someone addressed me as Negro, I'd probably kick them in the junk.

To me it's kind of like calling someone Japanese a "Jap". It's just in really, really poor taste.[/quote]

[B]To me it's kind of like calling someone Japanese a "Jap". It's just in really, really poor taste[/B].....Understood, good point

[B]but if someone addressed me as Negro, I'd probably kick them in the junk.....[/B]VERY good point
It's hard to imagine that "colored" is making a comeback. I have not heard that term since my Grandfather passed.....years ago (And he meant NO disrespect)
AND.....thankyou!

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[quote=Hog1;653121]
It's hard to imagine that "colored" is making a comeback. I have not heard that term since my Grandfather passed.....years ago [B](And he meant NO disrespect)[/B]
AND.....thankyou![/quote]

I totally understand that. For older generations, it's something they grew up with and they still used the term, because that's what they're used to. Which is why when my friend's grandmother used it, it kinda caught me off guard, but I knew how she meant it and meant no harm by it.

But yeah I've heard people calling themselves colored. But I've heard it from people who consider themselves Indian (from India) and people from out of the country.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;653125]I totally understand that. For older generations, it's something they grew up with and they still used the term, because that's what they're used to. Which is why when my friend's grandmother used it, it kinda caught me off guard, but I knew how she meant it and meant no harm by it.
[B]
But yeah I've heard people calling themselves colored. But I've heard it from people who consider themselves Indian (from India) and people from out of the country[/B].[/quote]

I've heard people refer to themselves as "brown" lately quite a bit. It took me off guard the first few times. There is a woman I work with who's Phillipino that says it all the time. Kinda strange I thought.

I just think people are overly sensitive these days. Nobody bats an eye if a non-white person refers to someone as "white," but I've seen African-Americans get all worked up if they hear someone referred to as "black."

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[quote=GMScud;653133]I've heard people refer to themselves as "brown" lately quite a bit. It took me off guard the first few times. There is a woman I work with who's Phillipino that says it all the time. Kinda strange I thought.

[B]I just think people are overly sensitive these days. Nobody bats an eye if a non-white person refers to someone as "white," but I've seen African-Americans get all worked up if they hear someone referred to as "black."[/B][/quote]

I've actually seen it the other way around, especially with people from the Caribbean, and like Haiti and the Dominican Republic, HATE being called African-American. I've seen people get into arguments over it.

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he was out of line with those comments. are they reason for his ouster? don't know. but Hoo hit the nail on the head. 99% of politicians are out of touch with the every day Joe's that they are supposed to represent

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[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/01/10/2010-01-10_bill_clinton_told_ted_kennedy_that_president_obama.html]Bill Clinton told Ted Kennedy that Obama 'would be getting us coffee' a few years ago: 'Game Change'[/url] . Not much class on BC's part either , sad if true .

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according to the [B]gossipy[/B] new campaign book, "Game Change."

no news here. just he said, she said. move on.....

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[quote=dmek25;653216][B]he was out of line with those comments. [/B]are they reason for his ouster? don't know. but Hoo hit the nail on the head. 99% of politicians are out of touch with the every day Joe's that they are supposed to represent [/quote]

[quote][B]according to the gossipy new campaign book, "Game Change."[/B]

no news here. just he said, she said. move on.....[/quote]

You do realize the Reid comment is also according to the book "Game Change"?

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[quote=724Skinsfan;653222]You do realize the Reid comment is also according to the book "Game Change"?[/quote]

Right, but Reid's apology for the comments acknowledges that he did in fact say it.

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[quote=12thMan;653111]No biggie as far as this won't have a big impact on Reid's chances of winning or losing his seat in Nevada. He's already down in the polls and I don't think this comment will sink him any further. But I guess that remains to be seen. He certainly didn't do himself any favors that's for sure. Further, this is hardly Harry Reid's first bone headed comment. He has foot in mouth disease about as much as Joe Biden does, but for some reason Reid's comments tend to fly under the radar.

But let's cut to the chase with this. Do I think Reid is a racist, I don't know for sure but I'm inclined to say no. Reason being is his legislative record has been towards social justice, which primarily benefits minorities and people of color, and the fact that he has no track record, that I'm aware of, that suggest otherwise. I think Harry Reid is just culturally disconnected. That's my take on it. And I don't think he's disconnected on the issue of race alone.

Is there a double standard, I'm not so sure on that one either. When I think of the recent Republican history, names like Strom Thurman, Senator Jim Demint, Maj. Leader Trent Lott, AG John Ashcroft, Gov. Haley Barbour, and Sen. George Allen have either delved into playing racial politics or displayed racially insensitive behavior. More recently Chip Saltsman, who was running for RNC Chair, was circulating the Barack the Magic Negro tape. That was, what, seven months ago? It's through that lens which most people, indeed minorities, tend to view the GOP when it comes to race. It's not entirely justified, as we know that Republicans aren't racists, but many in the GOP until this day still refuse to denounce the confederate flag. So the seemingly double standard has it's roots in recent history.

As far President Obama and Rahm jumping all over some comment made by either side, I disagree. The president has gone out of his way to avoid controversial statements like this from both sides, and I can assure you they have more important issues to worry about than who's tossing around the word negro. If that were they case, they would have pounced on Joe Biden, and a few others, during the campaign when Biden called Obama clean and articulate, but they didn't.[B] The last thing the president and the White House want to get bogged down with is the issue of race.[/B][/quote]

Then maybe he'll find ways to get his party to drive out Reid while he focuses on bigger things.

[url=http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-02-republican-party-itself-has-drive-out-trent-lott]Obama in '02: 'The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott' | The Weekly Standard[/url]

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[quote=724Skinsfan;653222]You do realize the Reid comment is also according to the book "Game Change"?[/quote]

So that make it ok in your book huh?

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old rich white guys.. heh

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re: the census

Sonny Le, a regional spokesman for the Census Bureau, said the term "Negro" has been on the survey for at least 100 years. He said the form is reviewed and analyzed thoroughly by different offices and advisory groups before being finalized.

Le said the decision to keep the term "Negro" on the form was due principally to the fact some older African-Americans still identify themselves by that term. In fact, in the 2000 census, more than 50,000 people chose to write down explicitly that they identified themselves as "Negro" in a section where the census allows people to provide additional information. That number does not include those who checked the box "Black, African-Am., or Negro."

[url=http://www.mercurynews.com/valley/ci_14156729]The word 'Negro' on 2010 census form sparks debate - San Jose Mercury News[/url]

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negro basically stemmed from the slave trade coming through the west indies.. was the same as black, but yeah, I guess negative connotations came through it

but every decade or so you have to change names for people i.e. negro, colored, black, african-american, etc... retarded, mentally handicapped, mentally disabled, special needs, etc... midgets dwarfs blah blah little people, etc

people just get their panties in a bunch no matter what.. they're the ones that fight to be called something then 10-20 years later it's derogatory

I now wish to be referred to as melanin challenged

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[quote=GMScud;653266]Then maybe he'll find ways to get his party to drive out Reid while he focuses on bigger things.

[URL="http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-02-republican-party-itself-has-drive-out-trent-lott"]Obama in '02: 'The Republican Party itself has to drive out Trent Lott' | The Weekly Standard[/URL][/quote]slightly diff comments lol

one dealt with stereotypical dialect and the other was based on a complete ideology

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Jos Biden said just about the same thing about Obama.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VMl_hFkH7k]YouTube - Obama Picks Racist for VP! Spread the Word![/url]

He also joked on Indian people.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_goH-aivU]YouTube - Joe biden racist gaffe to indian people[/url]

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[quote=tryfuhl;653282]slightly diff comments lol

one dealt with stereotypical dialect and the other was based on a complete ideology[/quote]

One was being made at a birthday party for a friend, the other was about the President of the United States. You're right they are different.

If the Dems have standards, Reid will be forced to resign like Lott. He's going to lose his election huge anyways, but why keep him until then?

In case anyone is confused about what Reid is talking about, here's an example of a stereotypical black dialect:
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It's completely laughable that people are comparing Harry Reid to Trent Lott. Not even in the same orbit.

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Much ado about nothing. I didn't find it offensive at all...he in fact spoke the truth and seeing he was an early supporter of Obama and encouraged him to run he gets a pass. Now if he was an Obama hater like Bill Clinton and said "a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," it's a different story. No Bill, some of us aren't wait staff you can send on coffee runs for you. I guess Bill forgot he was a redneck hick from Arkan'saw not too long ago.

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Here's the difference: Harry Reid was making an honest attempt to praise Barack Obama, a person he thought could win the presidency, as a crossover candidate with appeal. While Reid's observation was dead on and accurate, in my opinion, his choice of words were poorly chosen and ill conceived.

Trent Lott on the other hand supported Strom Thurmond, a segrationist candidate who thought America would be a better place without blacks, has all sorts of negative implications for the country and particularly African-Americans. Trent Lott openly mused about the possibility of Thurmond's presidency being good for America. Completely different context.

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[quote=12thMan;653388]It's completely laughable that people are comparing Harry Reid to Trent Lott. Not even in the same orbit.[/quote]

Agreed, but probably not for the same reasons as you.

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[quote=saden1;653389]Much ado about nothing.[/quote]

It' always is when Democrats say something racist. :blah:


Remember Howard Dean's "the only time you'd see black people at a GOP meeting is if they're part of the wait staff"?

Hillary's "Ghandi is working at a gas station"?

Joe Biden's "can't work at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have an Indian accent"?

The KKK Wizard Robert Byrd's "white n!ggers" comments?

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton...even Jesse Jackson can be a prominent Democrat who is on record with racist remarks and still have their jobs or their stature of power in the party. Even President Obama himself has made many campaign remarks a lot of people have taken as racist or race-baiting.



When a Republican makes a similar or even less-offensive comment regarding race, they're run out of town by the media and usually, their colleagues in the GOP. When a Dem does it, it's always "much ado about nothing".

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[quote=Buster;653410]It' always is when Democrats say something racist. :blah:


Remember Howard Dean's "the only time you'd see black people at a GOP meeting is if they're part of the wait staff"?

Hillary's "Ghandi is working at a gas station"?

Joe Biden's "can't work at a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have an Indian accent"?

The KKK Wizard Robert Byrd's "white n!ggers" comments?

Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton...even Jesse Jackson can be a prominent Democrat who is on record with racist remarks and still have their jobs or their stature of power in the party. Even President Obama himself has made many campaign remarks a lot of people have taken as racist or race-baiting.



When a Republican makes a similar or even less-offensive comment regarding race, they're run out of town by the media and usually, their colleagues in the GOP. When a Dem does it, it's always "much ado about nothing".[/quote]
Come on man don't you know the left cannot be racist by the fact they are from the left. This is not important right now they need to work hard on health care, tax and trade, and terrorism the real work for the American people.

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[quote=saden1;653389]Much ado about nothing. I didn't find it offensive at all...he in fact spoke the truth and seeing he was an early supporter of Obama and encouraged him to run he gets a pass. Now if he was an Obama hater like Bill Clinton and said "a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," it's a different story. No Bill, some of us aren't wait staff you can send on coffee runs for you. I guess Bill forgot he was a redneck hick from Arkan'saw not too long ago.[/quote]
yeah that poor hick Rhodes Scholar

Bill Clinton was out of office so you guys are really reaching to make this seem the same, without context you can't even say if that was racist.. you could equally and maybe more so argue that it means he just had little experience.. you know the guys that get coffee for the higher ups