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PennSkinsFan 01-12-2010 09:25 PM

Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
[B][url=http://dcprosportsreport.com/articles/washington-redskins/breaking-haslett-to-be-redskins-defensive-coordinator.html]BREAKING: Haslett to be Redskins Defensive Coordinator[/url][/B]

SmootSmack 01-12-2010 09:26 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
Just beat me to it.

Lukewarm on the move, he'll stress aggressiveness that's for sure

WaldSkins 01-12-2010 09:28 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
[quote=SmootSmack;653933]Just beat me to it.

Lukewarm on the move, he'll stress aggressiveness that's for sure[/quote]

Does that mean a position change for Laron??

Redskin Warrior 01-12-2010 09:28 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
Well that answered my questions about Romeo

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 09:28 PM

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I like the move.. 3-4?

Redskins247 01-12-2010 09:28 PM

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If so, hope he works out as well as the last Defensive Coordinator that turned head coach, got fired, and then came to us as Coordinator again.

Redskin Warrior 01-12-2010 09:30 PM

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I bet Gray is gone now

CRedskinsRule 01-12-2010 09:33 PM

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I haven't really been sold on many of the dc candidates, guess I thought Zimmer was a lock so didnt pay much attention. Glad we didn't bring an ex cowboy in, I hope we keep to that, and as for Haslett, we will have to see. There is a lot of talent, the question is will he make good use of it. That we won't know till September...

CultBrennan59 01-12-2010 09:36 PM

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it means that LaRon goes back to SS, and I'm sure we'll bring in OJ Atogwe the FS of St. Louis

Redskin Warrior 01-12-2010 09:37 PM

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Why do you think Haslett hasn't been so successful in the NFL? Talent? Scheme? Personnel?

dmek25 01-12-2010 09:39 PM

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i love that word, aggressive. we landed the guy i wanted. its time to get after the quarterback

Redskin Warrior 01-12-2010 09:41 PM

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4820872]Sources: Washington Redskins hire Jim Haslett to lead defense - ESPN[/url]

Looks like he will install the 3-4 defense

WaldSkins 01-12-2010 09:44 PM

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I like how we have the leagues best DT but we don't use him to the best of his ability.

Daseal 01-12-2010 09:49 PM

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Not too hot on this move. Where in the hell are we going to find an NT? Wilfolk may be a free agent if the CBA doesnt go through, but that's all I can think of as far as getting one. Then who plays end and who stands up? We don't have the players for this, hello offensive and defensive overhaul.

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 09:51 PM

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dont be shocked if AH is shopped around this offseason.. Haynesworth probably won't want to play a NT

Redskin Warrior 01-12-2010 09:52 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;653964]dont be shocked if AH is shopped around this offseason.. Haynesworth probably won't want to play a NT[/quote]

I doubt that seriously

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 09:53 PM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;653965]I doubt that seriously[/quote]

No Cap year, it could happen.. I HOPE NOT, but I wouldn't be shocked

love them hogs 01-12-2010 09:54 PM

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Can Haynesworth play nose tackle and who would back Him up?

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 09:55 PM

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He has never played a NT, and he has made it clear that he wants to rush the passer

Redskin Jim 01-12-2010 09:55 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;653951]Why do you think Haslett hasn't been so successful in the NFL? Talent? [B]Scheme[/B]? Personnel?[/quote]
I have watched this guy since he was the Saints head coach. He blows... I have not seen him do anything even mediocre. ALL piss poor coaching and personell selection. Sorry to be debby downer, but I can see a defensive coaching change after a season or two. This sucks, but I guess there wasn't anyone else out there..

drew54 01-12-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
What is the over under on Florida Tuskers that are in camp.

Carnage 01-12-2010 09:56 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;653949]it means that LaRon goes back to SS, and I'm sure we'll bring in OJ Atogwe the FS of St. Louis[/quote]

I think he blew out a knee mid-season.

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 09:58 PM

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[quote=Carnage;653972]I think he blew out a knee mid-season.[/quote]

Funny how u have forgotten all about Chris Horton:doh:

ethat001 01-12-2010 09:59 PM

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Why are we even thinking about changing the defense?? I wonder whether Gray would've been a better fit. If it ain't broke, don't fix it...

Why is Haslett a good move? It seems like he's been part of average to below-average defenses in the past. And there's even talk of switching to 3-4? Continuity on the defense has been its strength for the past 4-6 years..

I mean, sure our defense gave up big plays & mental lapses, but they still were top 5-10 each year in yards, etc.

And if we blitz more w/Haslett, we're really going to leave the CB's one-on-one more.. Hope Hall learns how to tackle.. And hope Tryon/Barnes pan out.

CultBrennan59 01-12-2010 10:00 PM

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Richard Seymour is a FA, thats a good start to building the 3-4. You put him down with AH at the other DE and draft or pick up a NT (Jamal Williams could be cut by SD) and this shaky 3-4 turns into a really good DL like That!

LB wise, Orakpo should be great as a Rush OLB we could draft another OLB in the draft like a George Selvie, Jerry Hughes, Dexter Davis, in the later rounds (2 of them should definitley be around by then) Put Rocky at MLB and Fletch at the other MLB spot (draft a MLB like maybe a Spikes or McClain if we really need to. Get OJ Atogwe from the Rams as our starting FS, and move LaRon to SS. Have a great back up like Horton at SS.

CultBrennan59 01-12-2010 10:02 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;653973]Funny how u have forgotten all about Chris Horton:doh:[/quote]

Horton's a SS not FS

ethat001 01-12-2010 10:02 PM

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From BigHairedAristocrat in another thread:
[QUOTE]As for Haslett, his most recent NFL defenses haven't been ranked particularly high, but few in NFL circles are going to question Haslett's defensive expertise. As interim coach in St. Louis in 2008, the Rams finished ranked 28th overall. In his six years in New Orleans, the Saints' defenses were ranked eighth, 16th, 27th, 18th, 32nd and 14th.[/QUOTE]

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 10:03 PM

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Why is everyone talking about O.J? He tore his knee up real bad if i'm not mistaken, he could be done.

Redskin Jim 01-12-2010 10:04 PM

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[quote=ethat001;653975]Why are we even thinking about changing the defense?? I wonder whether Gray would've been a better fit. If it ain't broke, don't fix it...

[B]Why is Haslett a good move? It seems like he's been part of average to below-average defenses in the past[/B]. And there's even talk of switching to 3-4? Continuity on the defense has been its strength for the past 4-6 years..

I mean, sure our defense gave up big plays & mental lapses, but they still were top 5-10 each year in yards, etc.

And if we blitz more w/Haslett, we're really going to leave the CB's one-on-one more.. Hope Hall learns how to tackle.. And hope Tryon/Barnes pan out.[/quote]
Its not a good move, all I can figur is that Shanny and Danny couldn't lure a real D.C. away from anywhere else. He has had no success that I have seen since I have been following him (05').

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 10:07 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;653977]Horton's a SS not FS[/quote]

When he and LL started together, it worked out pretty good though... just saying

Lotus 01-12-2010 10:08 PM

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There is too much to do on offense to restructure the D to a 3-4. Maybe we're going to phase in through hybridization, softening the blow. Haslett can do a 4-3, too. But if we just go pell mell into the 3-4, then it seems that we will have misplaced talent on defense, an impoverished offense, or both.

Ugh.

WaldSkins 01-12-2010 10:08 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;653976]Richard Seymour is a FA, thats a good start to building the 3-4. You put him down with AH at the other DE and draft or pick up a NT (Jamal Williams could be cut by SD) and this shaky 3-4 turns into a really good DL like That!

LB wise, Orakpo should be great as a Rush OLB we could draft another OLB in the draft like a George Selvie, Jerry Hughes, Dexter Davis, in the later rounds (2 of them should definitley be around by then) Put Rocky at MLB and Fletch at the other MLB spot (draft a MLB like maybe a Spikes or McClain if we really need to. Get OJ Atogwe from the Rams as our starting FS, and move LaRon to SS. Have a great back up like Horton at SS.[/quote]

1.) Our first priority should be OL
2.) Haynesworth is best served as a DT.
3.) Richard Seymour will be given the franchise tag.

Don't get to excited about the 3-4 yet, our defense(4-3) could be better with a different DC calling plays.

skinsfaninok 01-12-2010 10:12 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
[quote=WaldSkins;653985]1.) Our first priority should be OL
2.) Haynesworth is best served as a DT.
3.) Richard Seymour will be given the franchise tag.

Don't get to excited about the 3-4 yet, our defense(4-3) could be better with a different DC calling plays.[/quote]

Exactly, all of the sudden ppl want to sign guys like Seymore and O.J A from STL.. Didn't we learn from our own mistakes? It's like the Mcnabb thread earlier..:smashfrea

Slingin Sammy 33 01-12-2010 10:18 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
[quote=Daseal;653963]Not too hot on this move. Where in the hell are we going to find an NT? Wilfolk may be a free agent if the CBA doesnt go through, but that's all I can think of as far as getting one. Then who plays end and who stands up? We don't have the players for this, hello offensive and defensive overhaul.[/quote]Crtystalzed my thoughts eloquently. What the hell is on Haslett's resume that jumps out and says; "This guy will be a great DC!" The D in Pitt from 97-99 was solid, but how much of that had to do with Cowher. The Saints D from 2000-05 was a joke, the Rams from 2006-08 was a joke. I don't like this move. What will compound this potential disaster is a switch to the 3-4.

Why a switch to the 3-4 is bad, at least in the short term:

1) NT - see above
2) DE - We have one superstar in the making at RDE, a solid player in AC who may have another good year or two, and Jarmon we appeared to be strong at LDE before his injury. Both Jarmon and Rak are too small for a 3-4 DE and neither can play LB in a 3-4.
3) Our $ 10M/yr. DT is not a guy who has ever played at NT, he doesn't have a wide, low center of gravity, he would have to be a DE in the 3-4. Haynesworth is a 4-3, 1 technique, DT.
4) We have two LBs, one is a true 4-3 MLB and has a year or two left, McIntosh could make the switch, but we have at least two starting LB positions to fill, while our OL, QB and RB situations are a mess.
5) CBs - in a 3-4 to shut down top offenses the CBs must be physical, Rogers can be physical, but Hall & physical match about as good as "lamb & tuna fish".

Unless the plan is to tank 2010 to get another high draft position and build for 2011, I don't see how Haslett or a switch to the 3-4 makes any sense.

12thMan 01-12-2010 10:19 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;653964]dont be shocked if AH is shopped around this offseason.. Haynesworth probably won't want to play a NT[/quote]

It wouldn't shock me one bit if Haynesworth is traded.

mooby 01-12-2010 10:22 PM

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Yeah I'm not high on switching to a 3-4 either. We just don't have the personnel for it and we'd have to make too many moves if we wanted to be solid defensively. And I'm not too high on Haslett either. His defenses have been absolutely nothing special for as long as I can remember and on top of that the majority of our defense is made for a 4-3.

Slingin Sammy 33 01-12-2010 10:23 PM

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[quote=12thMan;653989]It wouldn't shock me one bit if Haynesworth is traded.[/quote]I know DS has deep pockets, but I have a hard time believing he'll just part with the $40+ M signing bonus for AH after 1 year.

12thMan 01-12-2010 10:29 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;653993]I know DS has deep pockets, but I have a hard time believing he'll just part with the $40+ M signing bonus for AH after 1 year.[/quote]

I think if we could swap out AH for Vince Wilfork in a possible three team trade, it might be worth entertaining.

The Goat 01-12-2010 10:34 PM

Re: Haslett to accept Defensive Coordinator
 
Wow...not often we see a thread in which everyone basically agrees. So the Haslett deal is a head-scratcher. Any guesses what lil D/Allen/Mike could be thinking?

-Evidently there isn't a ton of DC talent out there. Wouldn't that sort of lead one to believe keeping a guy on to maintain what we're doing makes sense i.e. Gray? You want a great mind to help w/ a transition into a totally new scheme like the 3-4 instead of a mediocre mind.

-Is Haslett just a stop-gap? Sure to be gone next year.

I think it's safe to say the defense will not be better this year than last, and maybe likely to get worse.

SmootSmack 01-12-2010 10:36 PM

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I think we're going to give 3-4 looks but I really don't think we're going 3-4 full-time


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