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sportscurmudgeon 10-28-2004 04:25 PM

Do me a favor, please?
 
I will be away for this weekend catching the Breeders' Cup races and may not be back until late on Monday so I want to get this message posted before I disappear...


If you are eligible to vote and registered to vote, please be sure to go and vote next Tuesday.


I don't care if you vote for the candidate that I will vote for. I'm not going to tell you who I am voting for or bore you to death with the reasons why I made that choice. To be blunt, I really don't care whom you might vote for or why just so long as you vote. Voting is a responsibility of citizenship in a democracy. So please take the time and make the effort to go and vote.


To the Moderators: I have no intention that this thread will turn into a political harrangue but if it does, I apologize in advance and I'd ask that you take it down. I happen to be one of those people who believes that things will be better if more of the citizenry is "invested" in the election processes and so I wanted to urge members here to go and vote their consciences.

joecrisp 10-28-2004 05:42 PM

I think this one's worthy of a sticky. Thanks, SC.

Go Vote November 2nd.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club 10-28-2004 05:46 PM

I think the voting should have a list of 20 or so issues (i.e. military, abortion, welfare, education, medicare, etc...) and that you should vote for each issue. Then, based on your responses - it would tell you which candidate you should select. You could still have the option to go the other way "just because" but then at least you would know that you were being irrational.

I'm just sick of the majority of Americans voting for whoever "looks presidential" or based on the rediculous, non-pertinent storylines in our increasingly biased news networks (i.e. who gives a crap what each one did or didn't do in the military in Vietnam compared to who they are and what they stand for now).

I saw a poll they conducted on people who voted early and 63% of them couldn't name one issue that the candidate they voted for stood for. ONE FREAKIN' ISSUE. That's sad folks.

That's like my wife, who picks her fantasy football team based on the color of their uniforms and what their mascot is. (Then again, she's killing me this year - so who knows??) And now that I've tied this back into football - ADE OUT!

Daseal 10-28-2004 05:53 PM

Voting is definitely worth the turnout, although I feel the system we're using is a bit unbalanced and we should go to a pure popular vote, since that ensures the people select the President it's worth your time.

If you're a democrat, don't kill us again by voting for Nader!

SmootSmack 10-28-2004 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]I think the voting should have a list of 20 or so issues (i.e. military, abortion, welfare, education, medicare, etc...) and that you should vote for each issue. Then, based on your responses - it would tell you which candidate you should select. You could still have the option to go the other way "just because" but then at least you would know that you were being irrational.

I'm just sick of the majority of Americans voting for whoever "looks presidential" or based on the rediculous, non-pertinent storylines in our increasingly biased news networks (i.e. who gives a crap what each one did or didn't do in the military in Vietnam compared to who they are and what they stand for now).

I saw a poll they conducted on people who voted early and 63% of them couldn't name one issue that the candidate they voted for stood for. ONE FREAKIN' ISSUE. That's sad folks.

That's like my wife, who picks her fantasy football team based on the color of their uniforms and what their mascot is. (Then again, she's killing me this year - so who knows??) And now that I've tied this back into football - ADE OUT![/QUOTE]

You should try taking some of the quizzes at [URL=http://www.ontheissues.org]On The Issues[/URL]

NY_Skinsfan 10-28-2004 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]You should try taking some of the quizzes at [URL=http://www.ontheissues.org]On The Issues[/URL][/QUOTE]

This is a great site...thanks for the link.

Gmanc711 10-28-2004 09:26 PM

Great link Smoot. Thanks, it helps me look at the issues alot better.

Riggo44 10-28-2004 09:40 PM

Thanks for the link smootsmack. I forwarded it to my friends. Great site. :thumb:

cpayne5 10-28-2004 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Daseal]If you're a democrat, don't kill us again by voting for Nader![/QUOTE]

Don't you know that exit polls conducted during the 2000 election showed that most people who voted for Nader would have voted for Bush otherwise?!?!?!

(that's what Nader claims, not me)

SmootSmack 10-28-2004 09:54 PM

I'm glad I could be of service

BrudLee 10-28-2004 10:07 PM

Well, I'll turn it into a political harangue.

If you live in Delaware, vote for [URL=http://www.leedelaware.com]my father[/URL] for Governor.

MTK 10-28-2004 10:13 PM

Nader was the FU vote in 2000.

If Gore could have won his own home state it wouldn't have been an issue. Blaming Nader for 2000 is a cop-out. The true crime of 2000 was the Florida debacle.

kingerock 10-28-2004 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Voting is definitely worth the turnout, although I feel the system we're using is a bit unbalanced and we should go to a pure popular vote, since that ensures the people select the President it's worth your time.

If you're a democrat, don't kill us again by voting for Nader![/QUOTE]

The reason we don't do a popular vote though because whole sections of the nation wouldn't be represented. We do electoral college because states like Rhode Island and Maine deserve to be counted just as much as New York, Texas and California.

MTK 10-28-2004 11:19 PM

some helpful hints from an email I got:

Bring a picture ID. Many states have new identification requirements this year, so play it safe by bringing your drivers license or other official ID if at all possible.

Go to the correct polling place. Many polling places have changed since the last election, and in some states, your provisional ballot will not be counted if you go to the wrong polling place. So check your polling place ahead of time by calling your local election office or reviewing your sample ballot.

Call 1-866-OUR VOTE if you experience or witness a voting emergency. Lawyers will be standing by to provide free, immediate, on-the-spot assistance.

Remember, you have the right to vote if you are in line before the polls close -- no matter how long it takes. There has never been a more important time to make sure that you vote and that your vote is counted.

Sincerely,

Michael Kieschnick
President
Working Assets

SmootSmack 10-28-2004 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=kingerock]The reason we don't do a popular vote though because whole sections of the nation wouldn't be represented. We do electoral college because states like Rhode Island and Maine deserve to be counted just as much as New York, Texas and California.[/QUOTE]

I think there is some referendum in Colorado that is being voted and would take effect with this election where the electoral votes wouldn't be winner take all. So basically the the winner of that state would take 5 of the 9 electoral votes. What do you guys think of that idea? Had it been in effect last time Gore would have won.

Homer: "I don't agree with his Bart-killing policy, but I do approve of his Selma-killing policy" Sideshow Bob for President!

VTSkins897 10-29-2004 10:59 AM

why vote when it's between a giant douche and a turd sandwich???
anyone see that south park? haha... 2 poor canidates in my mind. but you guys should all vote sure.

cpayne5 10-29-2004 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=kingerock]The reason we don't do a popular vote though because whole sections of the nation wouldn't be represented. We do electoral college because states like Rhode Island and Maine deserve to be counted just as much as New York, Texas and California.[/QUOTE]
And on top of that, the people are even supposed to be electing the President at all. That's the states' job. Read the Federalist papers.

ChounsMan 10-29-2004 11:30 AM

Just go out & vote. Every vote counts.

End of discussion! jk

Big C 10-29-2004 11:50 AM

i already sent in my absentee vote

SmootSmack 10-30-2004 01:23 AM

This Could Happen!
 
Wouldn't this be something:

Q: What if both the electoral vote for president and vice president are tied at 269?

A: The House would choose the president and the Senate would choose the vice president. In the Senate each senator would have one vote. So it is possible that if there were a Democratic-controlled Senate, it would pick John Edwards as vice president, even if the House picked George Bush as president.

[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6327343/[/url]

htownskinfan 10-30-2004 01:50 AM

I will not be voting ,I think they both suck,I voted for Nader last time and if I wouldnt have I would have voted for Bush,but not this time

BIGREDSKINFAN63 10-30-2004 07:50 PM

i loathe politics,it's only a step or two above prostitution or selling drugs in my book.

monk81 10-31-2004 02:13 PM

Even if you hate the Presidential candidates there are other important issues on the ballot that effect your region/area. Lot of people gave up their lives for our freedom and right to vote.............

skinsfan0201 10-31-2004 09:26 PM

Oh come on!
 
There is a candidate that is much better than the alternative, and it is not the one who tried to associate Al Queda with Iraq. Many other misconceptions and dishonesty have been prevalent throughout his term in office as well. And those were no small feat. I wonder why the rest of the world hates us and is begging us to change our leadership.

SkinsRock 11-01-2004 03:02 PM

The better candidate is the one that is willing to stand up for freedom, even if it isn't the popular thing to do with other nations. The alternative is to have our decisions dictated by the rest of the world. No thanks.
I do agree that as always, it is the "lesser of two evils". I cannot stand politicians.

That Guy 11-01-2004 08:18 PM

a no vote is really just like a vote of confidence... hope you won't be whining when things don't go the way you wanted....

skinsfan0201 this thread isn't here for you to rag on bush :P their are plenty of those floating around here, but this isn't the place.

MTK 11-01-2004 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=monk81]Even if you hate the Presidential candidates there are other important issues on the ballot that effect your region/area. Lot of people gave up their lives for our freedom and right to vote.............[/QUOTE]
Great point, the war has consumed this election, but there are plenty of very important issues that will effect our everyday lives.

Voting is important.

LongTimeSkinsFan 11-01-2004 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=monk81]Even if you hate the Presidential candidates there are other important issues on the ballot that effect your region/area. Lot of people gave up their lives for our freedom and right to vote.............[/QUOTE]

....and there are a lot of our men and women dying in foreign countries so their people can [b]have [/b]a right to vote. C'mon people, don't just throw away something that millions of people in other nations can only dream of having... the right to elect our political leaders.

Gmanc711 11-01-2004 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=LongTimeSkinsFan]....and there are a lot of our men and women dying in foreign countries so their people can [b]have [/b]a right to vote. C'mon people, don't just throw away something that millions of people in other nations can only dream of having... the right to elect our political leaders.[/QUOTE]

Exactly!!! The only reason I'm going out to vote tommarow is because these people are doing somthing I'm not willing to do, for simple things like voting. I feel like voting is my way, a very small way of saying thank-you.

Personally I think both of these guys stink, but I'm gonna go vote because of the people fighting for it. I''m gonna vote the way I think is going to bring them home, too.

kingerock 11-02-2004 09:49 AM

I'm sure you've all seen it, but there are a couple of really funny flash animations at [url]www.jibjab.com[/url] that you should check out. To me it sums up the public view of this election season. Can't wait till this is all over and we can get away from being "Two Americas"


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