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firstdown 01-25-2010 05:39 PM

Obama's First Year You Rate
 
Ok its been one year now and I'd be interested to see how people here would rate the job he has done. Rate him from A to F add any comments and if you don't mind also say if you voted for him.

Schneed10 01-25-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Obama's First Year You Rate
 
Master Yoda, is that you?

redsk1 01-25-2010 05:56 PM

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I'm not sure that you can rate how he's done based on results since it's only been a year. I'm not sure that would be fair. I guess you can rate him based on his actions over the last year. The country was and is mired in the worst economic times the majority of us have ever seen. Neither Obama or McCain could have "fixed" the ecomony in one year. It's going to be tough for many years to come and there's nothing Pres. Obama or anyone else can do about it. It's got to run it's course.

If I had to rate his actions, I'd say maybe a C.

saden1 01-25-2010 09:03 PM

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Are we judging him based on god or human scale?

Hog1 01-25-2010 09:14 PM

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[quote=saden1;658245]Are we judging him based on god or human scale?[/quote]

Gods shall not be judged by.............mortals

The Goat 01-25-2010 10:43 PM

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B+ i guess.

I wish he would have been way more aggressive on health care and proposed a full national plan to start...he went weak from the beginning and now we're stuck w/ the same shitty private plans in all likelihood.

Trample the Elderly 01-25-2010 10:43 PM

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Here's what I think of Barry Satoro. :vomit:

DynamiteRave 01-25-2010 10:59 PM

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Eh. I'd say C. Lots of talk. Not much aggression. Talk of bipartisanship and what seems to have developed is a bigger divide. He better do some magical tricks in the next 3 years or he can forget about running for a 2nd term.

mlmpetert 01-26-2010 01:28 PM

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If you grade him on his campaign principle of "Change" i think he has failed there pretty badly. I am unhappy with what he has done or attempted to do so far, but I don’t know think my political opinions should be rolled into how I grade him, so ill stay out.

But im posting because I was reading the pft comment section on Tim Tebow today and someone said this:

[I]1. BlackberryBartakamos says: January 26, 2010 8:26 AM [/I]
[I]This is like deja vu. I mean Tebow failing is about as obvious as Obama being just the same kind of fail. Everyone's been calling it except for his blind supporters.[/I]

This makes perfect sense to me. People either broadly believe Tebow (Obama) is going to succeed and do and great job no matter if he does or not. Some of the Tebow fanatics will believe that if Tebow (Obama) ends up failing as QB (President) its because he was in the wrong situation, not because he wasn’t qualified or had the abilities to be QB in the first place. So if Tebow fails these people are ultimately going to believe that the team that drafted (voted for) Tebow turned out to have a bad supporting cast (cabinet), or there is a disparity or a rift in the ideals of the coaching (legislature) or ownership (constituency), which ultimately leads to Tebow’s failure. They’ll say Tebow never had a chance, and what he did considering his opposition was successful nonetheless.

Obviously the opposite is true. If Tebow ends up being great in the NFL the Tebow haters will say well it turned out that he came into a team that couldn’t go anywhere but up and everything fell into place for him.

My point being is people are going to be blind supporters of both Tebow and Obama. Unless either does something remarkable that both supporters and naysayers can find greatness in He’s going to fail and succeed in the respective eyes of His critic and fan.

SolidSnake84 01-26-2010 01:46 PM

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How about F. Surprised nobody has talked about things he deliberatley lied about during his campaign. Mainly efforts to end the war, and yadda yadda yadda that he's now trying his damndest to extend indefinatley.

firstdown 01-26-2010 02:07 PM

Re: Obama's First Year You Rate
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;658337]How about F. Surprised nobody has talked about things he deliberatley lied about during his campaign. Mainly efforts to end the war, and yadda yadda yadda that he's now trying his damndest to extend indefinatley.[/quote]

He said alot of stuff that he has not done like he said but as for the war he pretty much has done as he said. He said we would get out of Iraq which we are just not as fast as he stated (I give him somewhat of a pass on that because I think he had better info once in office). Af. he said he was going to build troops their which is what he is doing.

Monkeydad 01-26-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Obama's First Year You Rate
 
[quote=The Goat;658257]B+ i guess.

I wish he would have been way more aggressive on health care and proposed a full national plan to start...he went weak from the beginning and now we're stuck w/ the same shitty private plans in all likelihood.[/quote]

MORE aggressive? He was speaking publicly EVERY day.

:D

over the mountain 01-26-2010 02:22 PM

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B. he took on fixing the economy as the first thing to do in office. i think he helped stabilize what was looking to be a bottomless pit for the economy. the market leveling off then rising happened quicker than I or most on here expected. (we had a thread taking predicitons on how far the dow would fall)

i stopped following politics after my 1st year of law school. too many know it all absolutists and i found myself turning into one of them. not fun people.

DynamiteRave 01-26-2010 06:01 PM

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[quote=firstdown;658339]He said alot of stuff that he has not done like he said but as for the war he pretty much has done as he said. He said we would get out of Iraq which we are just not as fast as he stated (I give him somewhat of a pass on that because I think he had better info once in office). Af. he said he was going to build troops their which is what he is doing.[/quote]

hey first, where's your grade for Obama! don't try to get out of this because you started the thread. :silly:

mlmdub130 01-26-2010 08:09 PM

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d

no

it's time to switch his renlentless campaine for health care, and climate issues and focus on the unemployment rate which climbing and climbing. how does health care reform help people find jobs?

Dirtbag59 01-26-2010 09:16 PM

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[quote=saden1;658245]Are we judging him based on god or human scale?[/quote]

Lol, nice!

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2010 09:25 PM

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C. Like every other politician... he has not affected me for better or worse in my daily life save the Cash for Clunkers program.

I would have rated Bush a C, he never affected me for better or worse in my daily life save for the stimulus checks he sent out.

Clinton, C.

And so on, and so on, and so on, and so on until the end of time.

Until we truly eliminate party lines (which will NEVER happen) things are going to be pretty much the same. The ultra-political people on here can argue me with on this all they want, but since I've been born, I can never thank nor be pissed at any political figure that's been in office nationally.

BleedBurgundy 01-26-2010 09:36 PM

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I voted for McCain, who I feel was the better candidate, but the poorer campaigner. I'd have to give Pres. Obama a C- based on how little he has done, compared with the unrealistically high hopes his supporters had for him coming in. Tempted to go into the D's on this, but like others have said, it's really early yet.

saden1 01-26-2010 09:45 PM

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Barry is looking real good, I give him a solid B...why? [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/"]This is why[/URL]. Can't argue with the numbers really:


* Promise Kept: 91
* Compromise: 33
* Promise Broken: 15
* Stalled: 87
* In the Works: 275
* Not yet rated: 2

Slingin Sammy 33 01-27-2010 09:39 AM

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Hard to argue with these grades:

F -Job Creation
[URL="http://blog.heritage.org/2010/01/12/morning-bell-787-billion-in-stimulus-zero-jobs-created-or-saved/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell"]Obama Abandons "Saved or Created" Jobs Claims | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.[/URL]

F - Transparency of Health Care Legislation: After promising live coverage of the legislation process on C-SPAN the President; 1) The final Senate bill was written in secret. 2) To secure passage, the 58 Democratic senators and two independents hashed everything out behind closed doors - without staff at one time. 3) The administration committed to more than a billion dollars in earmarks in hopes of securing the 60 votes needed to pass.

F - Crap & Trade Proposal
If passed into law, a projected loss of over 1M jobs and a minimum of a 15% cut in emissions that would cost the average household in the bottom income quintile about 3.3% of its after-tax income every year.

F - Fuzzy (to say the least) math on job creation numbers. An $ 890.00 contract does not create 9 jobs
[URL="http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/Pages/RecipientProjectSummary.aspx?AwardIDSUR=27434&PopId=19675"]Recipient Project Summary[/URL]

F - WMD Preparation
[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/26/white-house-takes-issue-critical-weapons-mass-destruction-report/"]FOXNews.com - White House Disputes Report Giving Obama Failing Grade on WMD Preparation[/URL]

F - 2009 Congressional Effectiveness
[URL="http://www.heritage.org/press/commentary/ed012510d.cfm"]President Obama's 2009 Congressional Effectiveness Grade F+[/URL]

"President Obama submitted his first budget, a $3.6 trillion blueprint, to Congress that increased spending by $1 trillion over the next decade. The year ended with about a $1.4 trillion deficit and a $12 trillion in total national debt. Obama gets a flat F for the fact that this administration has done nothing to lower government spending that was too high during the Bush years and seemed to accelerate month by month with the new administration."

However he does get the following good grade:
A - Mobilizing Conservatives

"Obama gets and A+ for helping to do what so many conservative leaders have failed to do over the past 20 years, organize a divergent movement around the idea of limited government, a balanced budget, no more bailouts, we the people being allowed to participate in government, low taxes and a respect for free market capitalism."

A - Scott Brown win in MA, taking over "Teddy Kennedy's" seat.


But don't take just my word for it, here's a link to a CBS poll on Obama's first year job perfromance. Put in your grades and submit and you'll get the numbers of how folks responding feel. The poll has been up for over a week.

[URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/19/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6116297.shtml"]Grade Obama's First Year in Office - Political Hotsheet - CBS News[/URL]

CRedskinsRule 01-27-2010 09:59 AM

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CBS' poll ought to show total number of votes, or like ESPN where you can roll over the map and see the votes per state. Strange to see a CBS poll that negative on Pres. Obama.

Slingin Sammy 33 01-27-2010 10:10 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;658507]CBS' poll ought to show total number of votes, or like ESPN where you can roll over the map and see the votes per state. Strange to see a CBS poll that negative on Pres. Obama.[/quote]
I agree. I certainly didn't expect the responses either on a Communist Broadcast System poll.

Unemployment is a big problem that's been back-burnered, and it's coming back to haunt the Administration in a big way IMO. It doesn't just affect the unemployed, it affects small businesses in a major way as well.

724Skinsfan 01-27-2010 10:10 AM

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^^^ How many times do you think Hannity and Limbaugh have voted in that poll?

Slingin Sammy 33 01-27-2010 10:12 AM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;658511]^^^ How many times do you think Hannity and Limbaugh have voted in that poll?[/quote]They probably have bots set up to skew the numbers :)

CRedskinsRule 01-27-2010 10:30 AM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;658511]^^^ How many times do you think Hannity and Limbaugh have voted in that poll?[/quote]
Probably just a few less than Franken and Matthews

724Skinsfan 01-27-2010 10:45 AM

Re: Obama's First Year You Rate
 
I don't know. I think Mathews is being a little more critical lately. Swap him out with Olberman.

Here's a [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/26/state-of-the-union-drinki_n_436932.html"]drinking game to go along with tonight's SOTU address.[/URL]

Slingin Sammy 33 01-27-2010 10:49 AM

Re: Obama's First Year You Rate
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;658522]
Here's a [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/26/state-of-the-union-drinki_n_436932.html"]drinking game to go along with tonight's SOTU address.[/URL][/quote]

:lol:

CRedskinsRule 01-27-2010 10:57 AM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;658522]I don't know. I think Mathews is being a little more critical lately. Swap him out with Olberman.

Here's a [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/26/state-of-the-union-drinki_n_436932.html"]drinking game to go along with tonight's SOTU address.[/URL][/quote]

I haven't watched politics in a while, but I watched Matthews reporting from Boston, and he made no attempt to hide his disgust with Brown's win. I thought he use to be a more moderate commentator, who could set aside his beliefs, and was shocked how stark his opinion was. To be fair he was more or less an observer, not the moderator of the show that was on.

firstdown 01-27-2010 11:59 AM

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D- I'm still here and still have my business so I won't give him a total fail. I just don't agree with his politics but he did do a few things i agreed with. I cannot think of them at the time but they were not any major issues to start with.

Monkeydad 01-27-2010 12:33 PM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;658513]They probably have bots set up to skew the numbers :)[/quote]

Votes in Massachusetts, Virginia, New Jersey and Copenhagen may prove otherwise.

firstdown 01-27-2010 04:02 PM

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I'll give him an A+ for being able to form a task force. Not that they have worked but he has created probably over 100 for one thing or another.


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