Senior Bowl Week - Who's there and who are we looking at?
 

Apparently we have Scott Campbell there as well as most of the coaching staff

Haven't seen a lot mentioned about specific players but this following article mentions CB Syd'Quan Thompson from SC ... Thompson is expected to go by the 3rd round

[URL="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Season-review-Secondary-82817412.html"]Season review: Secondary | Washington Examiner[/URL]

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I'm actually looking at a lot of the players at the senior bowl, specifically Terrance Cody, as well as LeFeavour, Robinson, Tebow, and Pike. I'm also looking at guys that can return punts and/or kicks. Javier Arenas and Mardy Gilyard come to mind. I'm hearing that Riley Cooper is catching everything and should be a great 3rd receiver in the NFL. I've like Iupati since I starting hearing about him come this past september and after seeing this video [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWdvfRhTruw]YouTube - Mike Iupati #77 UI vs USC[/url] of him laying the smack down on Maualuga. The problem now is that every scout loves him and knows that he is hands down the best guard in the draft, rumors now are the packers may get him in the first round. Vlad Duccassee is another prospect I want to see, because he comes from the FBS and can play RT or Guard. I'm actually keeping an eye on pretty much all the Olineman

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[B]Matt Tennant, C, Boston College[/B]
Tennant may be a bit undersized but he has a very competive side to him and the balance to win. He reminds me of former B.C. center [B]Tom Nalen[/B], who came to the Senior Bowl and impressed coaches the same way Tennant is doing. He handled the nose tackles he went against on Monday and came back again Tuesday with another solid practice. Tennant will be a key guy in a draft class very weak at the center position.

This could definitley be a guy we get, Tom Nalen was Shanahans pro bowl center for many years and many pro bowls

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[quote=tryfuhl;658607]Haven't seen a lot mentioned about specific players but this following article mentions CB Syd'Quan Thompson from SC ... Thompson is expected to go by the 3rd round[/URL][/quote]

Thompson is from UC berkeley and is a great CB.

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^ Great zone corner they say...do our corners play mostly zone or man or both

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These are the ten Redskins.com says to look at!


[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/For_Redskins__All_Eyes_On_the_Senior_Bowl_102125.jsp]For Redskins, All Eyes On the Senior Bowl[/url]



It seems interesting that 3 of the 10 are OL.

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Andre roberts from the citadel!

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Dexter McCluster looks like a great replacement for Randel El if we can get him later.

Pike for QB? Better than Bradford...why? Cheaper, later pick with less injury history.

LOVE that we're looking at a new Center. Rabach needs to go, at least to the bench if not out of town.

Iupati...YES. Maybe we can trade down and pick up another pick or two and still take this guy in the first.

Kicker? If we take him in the 7th. No more wasted kicker/punter picks before the final pick.

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I'm a huge fan of Mike Iupati and want him to become a skin. He is big, nasty and would bring a toughness to our line that we haven't seen since the Hogs. I have suggested in other threads that the Skins should target SF two first rounders as candidate to trade down with.

My dream scenario is this:

Trade SF the 4th pick and Jason Campbell for their 2 first rounders and a third rounder. They do need a QB and a Safety. This move would give them a starting QB and a chance to draft Eric Berry. We use the 13th to draft the best OT available and the 17th pick on Iupati. In the second round we draft QB Colt McCoy or another QB that would warrent a high second rounder. 3rd round pick up Dexter McCluster of Ole Miss. 4th round pick up Matt Tenant Center of Boston College. 5th pick up LaMarcus Coker of Hampton or LeGarrette Blount if he falls this far or another player that fit our needs.

If we do these things and target the best Lineman in the free agent market, resign Levi Jones and grab a Vet QB to compete with the rookie, I think we can win next season.

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I'm looking at the cheerleaders.

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I doubt we'll land Iupati...I bet he goes late first round...and I don't see that JC to SF scenario panning out...no way that SF will give up 2 first rounders for a average QB.

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[quote=tootergray34;658858]I doubt we'll land Iupati...I bet he goes late first round...and I don't see that JC to SF scenario panning out...no way that SF will give up 2 first rounders for a average QB.[/quote]

The leverage that I am basing this trade on is the willingness of the 49ers to trade up to get a top 4 pick player like Berry not Jason Campbell alone. I think that this trade is more realistic than many average fans think.

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I think, that when it's said and done, we'll probably land Tennant in the 4th round. And he will start for us on opening day.

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^ I hope so, I am tired of seeing campbell on his back because Rabach blew his assignment.

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I'm a Mizzou fan, so I've watched Sean Weatherspoon throughout his college career. He is a tackling machine. He is an outstanding inside linebacker with speed to play on the outside. He would pair well with London Fletcher on the inside in a 3-4 scheme. Picking him up in the mid to late rounds would be a great pickup.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;658876]^ I hope so, I am tired of seeing campbell on his back because Rabach blew his assignment.[/quote]

Or Campbell diving to the ground for the ball because Rabach can't snap in the shotgun.

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[quote=firstdown;658855]I'm looking at the cheerleaders.[/quote]

We can't improve at that position. We're best in the league there.

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[B]Notre Dame OT Sam Young --[/B] There is nothing wrong with Young's effort. He fights to say in position and finishes every drill in practice. However, his 6-foot-7¾ frame makes it hard for Young to redirect in pass protection, and he has difficulty getting under defenders' pads as a run blocker. He also has very long arms (34½ inches) that seem to make it hard to for him to be quick with his hands. We saw that show up on Day 4 when Young was working against California DE Tyson Alualu, who used his explosive hands and strong upper body to slap Young's arms down. Young did not have the hand quickness to recover and it was over at that point. His size also seems to make Young sluggish and he has a hard time staying balanced.

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I watched the Mon-Wed practices and here are some thoughts:

[B]Matt Tennant, C, Boston College[/B]
If we can get Tennant in the 4th, GTripp is absolutely correct, he will start for us. He looked very good at C (not so good at G). He's got good technique, feet, and can anchor against the bull rush inside.

[B]Greg Olsen, C, Notre Dame[/B]
As a later pick (7th-UDFA) if we miss Tennant, wouldn't be a bad project, good fundys, good feet, but struggles to anchor against a bull rush.

[B]Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise St.[/B]
Looked very solid in Man coverage in 1-on-1s, only got beaten once by Ford (sprinter class speed) from Clemson. He would be a solid addition to our secondary and could develop into a #1 CB. He's projected in the 2nd or 3rd. If we find a way to pick up an extra pick in the 3rd or he slips to the 4th he should be a target.

[B]Syd'Quan Thompson, CB, Cal[/B]
Appears physical, strong, good in zone. A MAJOR liability in man coverage, especially anything deep. He was torched deep several times. He reminded me of Smoot getting killed in 1-on-1s deep in training camp. He will be exposed in a big way in the NFL. Good fit for a Cover 2 or Tampa 2 scheme though.

[B]Iupati, G, Idaho[/B]
Got beaten twice on day one with a finesse rush and got caught reaching. Other than that he was the best OL IMO. Our need at T outweighs our need at G so I don't see us picking him up with our early 2nd even if he slips that far (doubtful).

[B]Ducasse, T, UMass[/B]
On day 1 vs. Schofield from Wisconsin he was beaten badly and gave up on the play. On the next play he recovered and did well. On day 2 he was beaten on an inside rush but recovered on the next play again. I'm not impressed with him. He appears very raw and IMO will be a project.

[B]Sam Young, T, ND[/B]
I'm a ND fan....but pass on Young. He looked consistently awful.

[B]Ed Wang, T, VT[/B]
Struggled with speed and finesse moves in 1-on-1s. He could handle the bull rush though. He looked good next to Iupati in combo drills and not bad in team. If he's there late (6th or later) he could develop, but right now he will get destroyed by any NFL player with a remote bit of speed off the edge.

[B]Jared Odrich, DT, PSU[/B]
Has a BIG motor and made some nice plays in 1-on-1s and team. He's a "nice to have" but we have too many other needs to waste a pick on him unless he falls ridiculously (which won't happen).

[B]Mitch Petrus, G, Arkansas[/B]
Didn't see too much of the South's 1-on-1s, they were too focused on Tebow every second. Petrus did not look good in the couple of plays I saw. His feet are very sloooowwww.

[B]John Jerry, G, Ole Miss[/B]
[B]Ciron Black, T, LSU[/B]
[B]Byers, G, USC[/B]
All looked solid in a couple of plays, but I didn't get to see enough to really tell anything on these guys.

[B]Tebow[/B] - yuk, pass on him. Fumbles, poor throws, throwing motion longer and slower than JC's.

[B]Joique Bell[/B]
Hard to gauge him, looked good in pass pro drill for a couple of plays and finished all his runs, but can't tell much without real contact. Mayock said he had a good week.

[B]QBs[/B] - LeFevour might be worth a pick late in the draft, but I wasn't impressed with any QB on either side.

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read some articles that say Iupati can be moved to tackle

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I really think we should get Tennant, because I read in SI.com that he's being compared to Tom Nalen, the Center for the Broncos for 12 years under Shanahan.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;658848]I'm a huge fan of Mike Iupati and want him to become a skin. He is big, nasty and would bring a toughness to our line that we haven't seen since the Hogs. I have suggested in other threads that the Skins should target SF two first rounders as candidate to trade down with.

My dream scenario is this:

[B]Trade SF the 4th pick and Jason Campbell for their 2 first rounders and a third rounder. They do need a QB and a Safety. This move would give them a starting QB and a chance to draft Eric Berry. [I][U]We use the 13th to draft the best OT available and the 17th pick on Iupati. In the second round we draft QB Colt McCoy[/U][/I] or another QB that would warrent a high second rounder. 3rd round pick up Dexter McCluster of Ole Miss. [I][U]4th round pick up Matt Tenant Center of Boston College[/U][/I][/B]. 5th pick up LaMarcus Coker of Hampton or LeGarrette Blount if he falls this far or another player that fit our needs.

If we do these things and target the best Lineman in the free agent market, resign Levi Jones and grab a Vet QB to compete with the rookie, I think we can win next season.[/quote]

This scnario gives me a semi!

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- Iupati (G Idaho) and Anthony Davis (T Rutgers) (not at the senior bowl) really do seem to be holders. They have a tendcey to catch D-Lineman then they do to punch them. Apparenly Mayock counted Iupati holding five times on a single drive. Tony Pike (QB Cinicinatti) doesn't look special either. Nor does Sam Young (T Notre Dame) who looks really stiff. Right now only guys that are impressing are the defensive guys and thats by default.

- Looking forward to seeing Selvish Capers (T WVU) and Vladamir Ducasse (T/G UMASS) play.

- Damn Ciron Black (T LSU) likes to bend at the waist. Avoid this guy like the plauge. And to think McShay had us picking him in his first mock draft back during the summer.

- Vladamir Ducasse (T/G UMASS) looks pretty good. A little raw but I would be happy if we drafted him.

- Capers (T WVU) looks relatively weak against the bull rush but the funny thing is he just went through a string of plays were the South threw the ball three times. Two times he protected the QB but was also part of the pocket collapsing but on the third try the rusher got tired and Capers kept him far away from the QB. Thing that makes me nervous about Capers is the fact that he's playing RT. At this point I think I would rather have Ducasse.

- Blount (RB Punch Oregon) actually looks pretty good. Personally I wouldn't be suprised to see Shanahan draft him around the 6th or 7th round. Then again thats just what we need, another Running Back with character issues.

- Capers (T WVU) is getting destroyed by Brandon Grahm (DE Michigan) at LT. Seems like he's nothing more then an athletic RT at this point. Personally none of the Lineman are impressing me right now except maybe DuCasse. I mean if people were fed up with Rabachs (C Redskins) ill timed penalities how are they going to feel about Iupati holding on every other play?

- It's sad how much Taylor Mays (S USC) looks like Sean Taylor (S Heaven) right now with the INT, wearing 21, and the tinted face mask.

- All of these OL stink. DuCasse (T UMass) and Capers (T WVU) have reasonably impressed but nothing special. I keep looking at Sam Young (T Notre Dame) and think he should be 10 times better but the fact of the matter is he can't move and he lacks basic awareness. On draw plays he doesn't even move his feet opting to just slap the defender on the shoulder pads as he goes by.

- From the first half it seems like we better hope for Bulaga (T Iowa), Campbell (T UMD), or Charles Brown (T USC) falls to us in the second.

- DuCasse (T/G UMASS) continues to be the only guy that impresses me on the line. He could be really special down the line. Does a nice job of driving and moving. Might need to improve his footwork in pass protection but everything else is there (size, speed, etc) Surprisingly he's a very good drive blocker and has a bit of a mean streak.

- I hate to say it but Blount (RB Oregon) looks like a great fit for Shanahans offense

- LeFevour's (QB CMU) impressive. Nice zip on his throws, great mobility. Only thing that worries me is he struggled under center. Much more impressive then Tony Pike.

- Wang (T VT) looks decent.

- DuCasse and LeFevour are now two of my favorite prospects. DuCasse would be a great pick in the second round especially if all the big name tackles are gone. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see someone take DuCasse in the First Round.

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LeFevour throws the 9 route with ideal accuracy to Mardy Gilyard for 6. Somewhere Brian Kelly is smiling.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659272]-

- LeFevour's (QB CMU) impressive. Nice zip on his throws, great mobility. Only thing that worries me is he struggled under center. Much more impressive then Tony Pike.

- DuCasse and [B]LeFevour are now two of my favorite prospects[/B]. DuCasse would be a great pick in the second round especially if all the big name tackles are gone. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see someone take DuCasse in the First Round.[/quote]

LeFevour is definitely one of mine. Could turn out to be the best QB in the draft.

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I'm surprised no one is talking about Zac Robinson (well, maybe just because SmootSmack isn't here). He's the one who increased his draft stock most in my eyes in this game. I would have to look at him as a possible second round pick now.

Very fluid and natural in his actions.

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And then theres that.

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Sounds like Blount, Lefevour, and zac robinson did really good. Also sounds like Riley cooper andre roberts and mardy gilyard did great too.How did the defense do?

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I'm all for an angry Samoan draft:

Iupati
Misi
Alualu

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[quote=CultBrennan59;659301]Sounds like Blount, Lefevour, and zac robinson did really good. Also sounds like Riley cooper andre roberts and mardy gilyard did great too.How did the defense do?[/quote]

Don't forget DuCasse. Maybe not the best lineman in practice but definitely the best during the game. Mike Johnson (G Alabama) seemed to do decent. Iupati was fine but his tendency to try to hold as well as his nature as a mauler makes me a little uneasy. Besides we already have our big guy in Dockery. Wang (T VT) looked serviceable but I wouldn't trust him to block Ware.

Black (LSU) and Young (ND) were terrible. I want nothing to do with those two.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659308]Don't forget DuCasse. Maybe not the best lineman in practice but definitely the best during the game. Mike Johnson (G Alabama) seemed to do decent. Iupati was fine but his tendency to try to hold as well as his nature as a mauler make me a little uneasy. Besides we already have our big guy in Dockery. Wang (T VT) looked serviceable but I wouldn't trust him to block Ware.

Black (LSU) and Young (ND) were terrible. I want nothing to do with those two.[/quote]

I didn't see the game Im just saying what I saw from the stats of who looked good. Defense wise though, who looked good? Cody??

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[quote=CultBrennan59;659310]I didn't see the game Im just saying what I saw from the stats of who looked good. Defense wise though, who looked good? Cody??[/quote]

Apparently everyone from the North front 7 was amazing from what I saw. Especially Brandon Grahm (DE Mich). Personally I got a horrible feeling from both O-Lines but the South's line was terrible. Didn't really notice Cody much but thought it was interesting seeing him playing with Dan Williams (DT Tenn) in a 4-3 set

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So uh, what was the final score?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;659315]Apparently everyone from the North front 7 was amazing from what I saw. Especially Brandon Grahm (DE Mich). Personally I got a horrible feeling from both O-Lines but the South's line was terrible. Didn't really notice Cody much but thought it was interesting seeing him playing with Dan Williams (DT Tenn) in a 4-3 set[/quote]

I don't know what I think of Dan Williams, I picture him as more of a 4-3 DT, and I really didn't even know about him until know.

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I think it's safe to say no one jumped out as far as anyone the Redskins will be choosing.

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[U]Here's who i liked and disliked from the Senior Bowl:[/U]
[B]Liked[/B]-Cameron Sheffield-DE-Troy
Dexter McCluster-RB-Ole Miss
Mike Weatherspoon-LB-Mizz
Daryl Washington-LB-TCU
LeGarret Blount-RB-Oregon
Brandon Graham-DE-Michigan
Lamaar Houston-DT-Texas
Stephon Johnson-RB-USC
[B]
Disliked[/B]-Tim Tebow-GB-Florida
Mike Iupato?-OG-Idaho
Ciron Black-OT-LSU
Sam Young-OT-ND

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[quote=WaldSkins;659326][U]Here's who i liked and disliked from the Senior Bowl:[/U]
[B]Liked[/B]-Cameron Sheffield-DE-Troy
Dexter McCluster-RB-Ole Miss
Mike Weatherspoon-LB-Mizz
Daryl Washington-LB-TCU
LeGarret Blount-RB-Oregon
Brandon Graham-DE-Michigan
Lamaar Houston-DT-Texas
Stephon Johnson-RB-USC
[B]
Disliked[/B]-Tim Tebow-GB-Florida
Mike Iupato?-OG-Idaho
Ciron Black-OT-LSU
Sam Young-OT-ND[/quote]

Was Black that bad? I was thinking he'd make a good RT but I haven't seen anything on him from the Senior Bowl.

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[quote=WaldSkins;659326][U]Here's who i liked and disliked from the Senior Bowl:[/U]
[B]Liked[/B]-Cameron Sheffield-DE-Troy
Dexter McCluster-RB-Ole Miss
Mike Weatherspoon-LB-Mizz
Daryl Washington-LB-TCU
LeGarret Blount-RB-Oregon
Brandon Graham-DE-Michigan
Lamaar Houston-DT-Texas
Stephon Johnson-RB-USC
[B]
Disliked[/B]-Tim Tebow-GB-Florida
Mike Iupato?-OG-Idaho
Ciron Black-OT-LSU
Sam Young-OT-ND[/quote]

Well said.. In fact that is exactly what I was thinking.
I was a little bit dissapointed in Rolle and Mays too, I really saw them proving themselves.

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[quote=53Fan;659330]Was Black that bad? I was thinking he'd make a good RT but I haven't seen anything on him from the Senior Bowl.[/quote]

He could possibly be a good RT, unfortunately he only played LT during the game so it was kinda hard to evaluate him at the position.

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One game doesn't make a career for these guys, it's hard to judge from one game. Who's to say that those that good games couldn't be a bust? You never know.