The end of the three point stance?
 

[url=http://www.nesn.com/2010/02/roger-goodell-says-nfl-is-considering-banning-the-threepoint-stance.html]Roger Goodell Says NFL Is Considering Banning the Three-Point Stance - NFL - NESN.com[/url]

Does anyone know how accurate this page is or has seen it on CBS?

I personally think... this idea sucks. Period.

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He said it, but I think it was more like a "we'll explore every idea" kind of thing than a "We plan on getting rid of it"

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[quote=SmootSmack;661437]He said it, but I think it was more like a "we'll explore every idea" kind of thing than a "We plan on getting rid of it"[/quote]

??? Well if he said it ,it was stupid.If they do it, the're idiots!

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Wow, I can't even believe they are considring this.. Changing a form? Within 10 yars, the game would not be football anymore..

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Roger Goodell is the worst commissioner the NFL has ever seen. He has already trying to change the league's toughness by fining every hard hit and now this? This is football. these men choose to take the risk of getting injured for the large sums of money and because the sport is so fun to play

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Meh, sure anything is possible. Doubt this would happen though.

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IMO it would be a mistake if they do it, but I've witnessed so many changes in the game since I began watching that it's nowhere near the game I initially began watching back in 1949. For the guys that played the game then, if they could witness what's being played now they wouldn't believe their eyes.

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[quote=Giantone;661439]??? Well if he said it ,it was stupid.If they do it, the're idiots![/quote]

what he said ^^^

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I think this is crazy. More & more I see the NFL as morphing into pro wrestling. Not that they want to control the outcome but it seems to me that they really want to control how they outcome is reached.

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[quote=duetsch215;661443]Roger Goodell is the worst commissioner the NFL has ever seen. He has already trying to change the league's toughness by fining every hard hit and now this? This is football. these men choose to take the risk of getting injured for the large sums of money and because the sport is so fun to play[/quote]

They're not protecting the players for their own good. They're protecting their investments.

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I ask this out of pure pig ignorance...

What would banning the 3 point stance accomplish, ruin and/or change?

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Concerned about concussions, Goodell said the league will keep looking for ways to make the game safer. Speaking on CBS's Face the Nation hours before the Super Bowl, he didn't rule out the idea of banning the three-point stance for linemen to reduce the ferocity of collisions at the line of scrimmage.

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Studies on concussions have shown that it's just not the big hits that cause damage, but all the little ones that add up over time

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Playing football can't be good for your brain long-term. I think in the next 10 years or so more conclusive evidence about concussions will emerge, which of course won't be good for the game's image. I see a few things on the horizon - 18 games, lockout, economics - that could really mark the beginning of the end for the nfl as the country's most popular sport.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I truly do not like Goodell. I don’t recall any player getting knocked out or getting a concussion in the “trenches”. How about you talk about trying to make changes in the helmets before making these crazy suggestions. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=mlmpetert;661496][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I truly do not like Goodell. [B]I don’t recall any player getting knocked out or getting a concussion in the “trenches”.[/B] How about you talk about trying to make changes in the helmets before making these crazy suggestions. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

You may not get knocked out but the cumulative effect of all the little impacts over time may be more damaging than the big hits.

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[quote=mlmpetert;661496][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I truly do not like Goodell. I don’t recall any player getting knocked out or getting a concussion in the “trenches”. How about you talk about trying to make changes in the helmets before making these crazy suggestions. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

He did also talk about improved helmets (sometime over the weekend, maybe not in that specific interview)

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[quote=SmootSmack;661514]He did also talk about improved helmets (sometime over the weekend, maybe not in that specific interview)[/quote]

Maybe they can get all these new ideas ironed out during the work stoppage.

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Anyone see the latest segment on concussions on HBO's Real Sports? The research that is coming out is downright scary.

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[quote=freddyg12;661492]Playing football can't be good for your brain long-term. I think in the next 10 years or so more conclusive evidence about concussions will emerge, which of course won't be good for the game's image. I see a few things on the horizon - 18 games, lockout, economics - [B]that could really mark the beginning of the end for the nfl as the country's most popular sport[/B].[/quote]

I really think it would take A LOT for that to happen. The league's popularity continues to grow each year. Besides, what else is going to step up to take it's place?

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[quote=Mattyk;661530]I really think it would take A LOT for that to happen. The league's popularity continues to grow each year. Besides, what else is going to step up to take it's place?[/quote]

the caps, here in dc it's hockey mania right now, no one is talking about the skins at all the caps are taking over 14 straight wins right now

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[quote=mlmdub130;661532]the caps, here in dc it's hockey mania right now, no one is talking about the skins at all the caps are taking over 14 straight wins right now[/quote]

The caps are definitely #1 in the city now.

Maybe the NFL could just ban blocking all together and go to flag football like I played in college intramurals where there was no blocking, team speed was what it was all about. That would remove the risk of concussions. I appreciate trying to make things safer but the game carries inheriant risks and anyone that doesnt want to accept those risks shouldnt play.

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[quote=irish;661537]The caps are definitely #1 in the city now.

Maybe the NFL could just ban blocking all together and go to flag football like I played in college intramurals where there was no blocking, team speed was what it was all about. That would remove the risk of concussions. [B] I appreciate trying to make things safer but the game carries inheriant risks and anyone that doesnt want to accept those risks shouldnt play[/B].[/quote]

I agree. High risk, high reward. The equipment should be improved but not the way the game is played. Some players don't take full advantage of what is available now, which is their right, because they feel it inhibits their performance. Thigh pads are a case in point.

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[quote=Mattyk;661530]I really think it would take A LOT for that to happen. The league's popularity continues to grow each year. Besides, what else is going to step up to take it's place?[/quote]

I'm not saying it would happen quickly, but I think an 18 game season would be the start of it. This year we saw what happens to teams in a down economy, including ours; people don't go to the games, and even some on this site said they weren't watching every game.

The labor situation always makes pro sports look worse than it should. People just don't have sympathy for the owners or players in these disputes. I could see this one getting ugly & it really having an impact on fans economic decisions.

As for what would take it's place; there's plenty to do that. There is so much entertainment out there at much cheaper cost & greater convenience. Until the 1950s or so, college football was by far more popular than the nfl. Despite whatever negative feelings fans have for the ncaa, college athletics has alumni that feel great loyalty to their schools, and enjoy the game day experience enough to make the trip for every home game. As more Americans attend college w/each generation, college sports has a built in audience. I could see college football becoming more popular than the nfl in the next 10 years, especially if a playoff system can be created.

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[quote=mlmdub130;661532]the caps, here in dc it's hockey mania right now, no one is talking about the skins at all the caps are taking over 14 straight wins right now[/quote]

Well let's be honest it's the dead part of the offseason for the Skins.

Besides I'm talking nationally. The NHL is a distant 4th amongst the big 4 sports, it's in no danger of threatening the NFL.

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[quote=SmootSmack;661514]He did also talk about improved helmets (sometime over the weekend, maybe not in that specific interview)[/quote]

That would mean the lightweight helmets are probably gone. You've all probably seen them before they have a ridge, sort of like a mohawk, over the middle of the helmet and the holes are a little longer. Not the worst idea in the world, especially if you're trying to prevent concussions.

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However if you get rid of the 3 point stance you fundamentally change the game. It's honestly a horrible idea. At that point you might as well make running the ball illegal. Hopefully the fans will speak up and make sure that this does not get past. I'm pretty sure though that the D-Lineman, O-Lineman, and Running Backs will have something to say since this rule could seriously affect their value.

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The National Flag League it will be this soon.

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If it can actually curb concussions...more lineman are using the two point stance than ever before.

But there would have to be some actual evidence that this could accomplish that goal before they just got rid of a staple of football for the sake of doing it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;661628]If it can actually curb concussions...more lineman are using the two point stance than ever before.

But there would have to be some actual evidence that this could accomplish that goal before they just got rid of a staple of football for the sake of doing it.[/quote]

Yeah but what about D-Lineman on the interior? What position would they be allowed to play in?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;661637]Yeah but what about D-Lineman on the interior? What position would they be allowed to play in?[/quote]The bitch position?

Good point. Probably a stand up position in a gap. Basically, this is a change that would take 320 lb nose tackles out of the game entirely. Which, im sure, is part of the goal of preventing concussions.

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[quote=GTripp0012;661639]The bitch position?

Good point. Probably a stand up position in a gap. Basically, this is a change that would take 320 lb nose tackles out of the game entirely. Which, im sure, is part of the goal of preventing concussions.[/quote]

Hey I spent some time at Nosetackle, even though I was undersized.

I guess though the NFL's other goal is to tackle obesity and $100 million players that can't breathe.

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And get 'em while their young:

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This only makes the NFL look more look a bunch of wusses if they were to really do this. Soon golf will become a more dangerous sport than football.

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By the time this a-hole Goodell is finished with his tinkering of the greatest sport in the world it will be completely non contact flag football. I see alot of retired older players, esp. lineman and they seem fine, hell look at our great Russ Grimm, how many heads did he bang. I dont know anything anymore, good ol Roger knows everything and he needs to b replaced and I say we start collecting money to rent a sign on the side of a bus, or was it the tail gate of a truck, whatever.

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How many offensive and defensive lineman in history have ever either gotten a concussion or left the game because of one? I cannot think of any. It seems to me that this is just lip service from the commissioner to keep congress from breathing down the NFL's neck.

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[quote=Angry;661751]How many offensive and defensive lineman in history have ever either gotten a concussion or left the game because of one? I cannot think of any. It seems to me that this is just lip service from the commissioner to keep congress from breathing down the NFL's neck.[/quote]

The only thing that the three point stance could concievably be responsible for his the mangled hands of lineman and that won't stop by eliminating the three point stance. Unless of course we have another "genius" rule change on the horizon.

I mean wedge rule, didn't necessarily agree with it but it was enough to keep players safe while not fundamentally changing the game.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;661600]The National Flag League it will be this soon.[/quote]


I'd call it the National [Gay] League.

They've insulated the QB (except JC) from virtually any hits, made the chop-block illegal (which is a good rule IMO), horse collar...illegal, head to head contact (that call on Ray Lewis was in the playoffs was BS)...illegal, hits on defenseless WR...illegal. Now they want to take the three point stance out of the game. Why even play the game? It's a violent game and they're well compensated. If they don't like it, they can work for a living. And damn these owners and league officials. All they care about as someone said earlier, is their investment. They're ruining the game.

Lombardi is rolling in his grave.

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I think the title of this article is a tad misleading and seems to have people in a tizzy. If you read the article it says he's [I]not ruling out the idea of banning the 3 point stance[/I]... not that anything is in the works to do so like the title suggests. Relax folks, he's just keeping his options open. This would be a pretty drastic change and I don't see it happening.

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