93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins
 

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foxsports.com is saying Clausen to the Skins!!

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National Football Post also is predicting Clausen to the Skins.. I don't think he's nearly worthy of #4, maybe #24 but not #4. I'd rather go with Okung and maybe trade back into the back end of the 1st because I think Clausen will fall like a rock in the draft..

If we're going to go QB, I'd much rather it be Bradford. I think he's going to be a stud in a few years.

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Apparently, and this is 2nd hand information from a scout not associated with the Redskins, the Patriots are very interested in moving up to get Spiller. And the Redskins are very interested in Charles Brown and Colt McCoy. So make of that what you will

Same person also said that the Redskins scouts he's talked to have said Okung at #4 is very unlikely at #4, if they stay at 4. They don't think he's worth it that high.

So anyway, that's what I was told today. Personally, I think you need to take all that with a grain of salt because it's still way too early

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[quote=SmootSmack;662521]Apparently, and this is 2nd hand information from a scout not associated with the Redskins, the Patriots are very interested in moving up to get Spiller. And the Redskins are very interested in Charles Brown and Colt McCoy. So make of that what you will

Same person also said that the Redskins scouts he's talked to have said Okung at #4 is very unlikely at #4, if they stay at 4. They don't think he's worth it that high.

So anyway, that's what I was told today. Personally, I think you need to take all that with a grain of salt because it's still way too early[/quote]

If that is true (taking the salt into account) then it looks like I'll have to learn to love Colt McCoy. I mean I already like him as a person, but I'm just not sure about him as a QB. Love the idea though of Charles Brown. Guy is tailor made for this scheme.

GTripp give me more of your future QB magic. If anyone can sell me on McCoy it's you.

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I really hope Smootsmack is wrong about that Spiller to Pats, and us getting McCoy. If you all are so worried about Bradfords shoulder, then I'd be pissing my pants every play McCoy went to drop back, the guy was barely touched in the biggest game of his career and he quiet over a little bump, Bradford got slammed on his shoulder and played a few games later and got slammed on it again, then he gave up.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;662535]I really hope Smootsmack is wrong about that Spiller to Pats, and us getting McCoy. If you all are so worried about Bradfords shoulder, then I'd be pissing my pants every play McCoy went to drop back, the guy was barely touched in the biggest game of his career and he quiet over a little bump, Bradford got slammed on his shoulder and played a few games later and got slammed on it again, then he gave up.[/quote]

McCoy wanted to give it a go but no would let him. They (Coach, Doctor, Father) told him to worry about his future and not it risk it. Also he couldn't throw the ball 8 yards after the injury.

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I personally am not putting that much stock into McCoy to the Redskins talk. On the surface it makes sense because McCoy is a proven winner, he's accurate, and he's from Texas (Kyle is still close with the guys there).

But I think if we don't take Bradford or Clausen at #4 we won't be taking a QB until around Round 4 or 5. And I don't think McCoy will be there then.

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I wouldn't say he was barely touched like he's not tough. Sometimes it's where you get hit that matters. You ever stub your little toe?

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So SS, you don't think a QB such as Pike in the 2nd is a possibility?

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[quote=53Fan;662547]I wouldn't say he was barely touched like he's not tough. Sometimes it's where you get hit that matters. You ever stub your little toe?[/quote]

Or get a paper cut. Hurts like a mofo!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;662535]I really hope Smootsmack is wrong about that Spiller to Pats, and us getting McCoy. If you all are so worried about Bradfords shoulder, then I'd be pissing my pants every play McCoy went to drop back, the guy was barely touched in the biggest game of his career and he quiet over a little bump, Bradford got slammed on his shoulder and played a few games later and got slammed on it again, then he gave up.[/quote]

No offense but your argument here makes no sense. So you're saying that it is ok to take a QB with a shoulder injury (Bradford) at #4, but it is not ok to take McCoy (also with a shoulder injury) later in the first round (or maybe second?) with additional picks (that would come from a trade down with the Pats)?

I would say in these two scenarios, the latter one would be less of a risk if a trade down results in results in additional picks. That being said, picking both QBs bring in their individual riskst...Bradford barely played his last season and injured that shoulder twice, while McCoy's injury was the most recent one.

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[quote=SmootSmack;662546]I personally am not putting that much stock into McCoy to the Redskins talk. On the surface it makes sense because McCoy is a proven winner, he's accurate, and he's from Texas (Kyle is still close with the guys there).

But I think if we don't take Bradford or Clausen at #4 we won't be taking a QB until around Round 4 or 5. And I don't think McCoy will be there then.[/quote]I think, if we're going to go after McCoy, we will end up trading back up into the first to get him. And only because our scouting evaluations suggest he is a better scheme fit than either Bradford or Clausen.

I agree with you that if we're satisfied not taking a QB in the first round, we will probably not take one until the middle of the draft.

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[quote=Ruhskins;662552]No offense but your argument here makes no sense. So you're saying that it is ok to take a QB with a shoulder injury (Bradford) at #4, but it is not ok to take McCoy (also with a shoulder injury) later in the first round (or maybe second?) with additional picks (that would come from a trade down with the Pats)?

I would say in these two scenarios, the latter one would be less of a risk if a trade down results in results in additional picks. That being said, picking both QBs bring in their individual riskst...Bradford barely played his last season and injured that shoulder twice, while McCoy's injury was the most recent one.[/quote]

No I'm saying in terms of whose more fragile, Bradford may have messed up his shoulder, but his injury was a lot more understandable as to how he got hurt and why he wasn't playing. McCoy is 190lbs or around that and barely has pushed and he wouldn't play the rest of the national championship game. I don't buy that people said he couldn't play because the trainers wouldn't let him on the field, if he wanted to play so badly, then he could of lied to them and told them he was fine. I'm saying Bradford or no McCoy, is what I'm saying.

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[quote=Daseal;662549]So SS, you don't think a QB such as Pike in the 2nd is a possibility?[/quote]At the top of the second, Pike seems like a huge reach. He's a good, solid quarterback prospect with tools, and there's a lot to like about him, but he seems to profile as an NFL backup. I see a little bit of Tom Brady there, but for every instance that Brady got lucky enough to play early and develop into one of the better quarterbacks in NFL history (fulfilling all his potential), there were thirty or forty other possible routes that could have led to Brady being a career backup, or a worthless starter.

Pike could be an all-time great, I think, but I would not just take him in the second and hope nothing goes wrong on his development. He's nowhere near a finished product for a 23 year old, and that means career backup in about 85% of QB prospects.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;662557]No I'm saying in terms of whose more fragile, Bradford may have messed up his shoulder, but his injury was a lot more understandable as to how he got hurt and why he wasn't playing. McCoy is 190lbs or around that and barely has pushed and he wouldn't play the rest of the national championship game. I don't buy that people said he couldn't play because the trainers wouldn't let him on the field, if he wanted to play so badly, then he could of lied to them and told them he was fine. I'm saying Bradford or no McCoy, is what I'm saying.[/quote]

I think it's a bit futile to make an argument due to injury against McCoy and dismiss Bradford's injury. Regardless, to me picking up QBs with shoulder injuries in their last year is not a good idea. I rather use our resources in other areas of need and pick up a mid-round QB to develop.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/malcolm-kelly-gives-his-though.html#more]Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly gives his thoughts on Sam Bradford[/url]

Malcolm Kelly's take on us getting Sam Bradford.

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[quote=Daseal;662549]So SS, you don't think a QB such as Pike in the 2nd is a possibility?[/quote]

I mean I guess it is. But my own somewhat educated guess say OT and/or LB is more likely in the 2nd round (and possibly 3rd if we get one). With QB and RB being in the 1st and 4th, or vice-versa.

I'll have more concrete info after the combine I'm sure. Last year it was pretty apparent form the start that Cushing, Rey Rey, and Orakpo were at the top of their list. This year it's not as clear.

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If you remember Cambell got killed last year. It doesn't matter who you put back there until you repair the porus O-line. I would like us to take OT Russell Okung with the first round pick and then you Zac Robinson from OSU in a later round. The rest of the draft we need big uglys.

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According to ESPN the Rams are developing a growing interest in Sam Bradford. With the Rams recently being sold to Shahid Kahn I'm positive he's salivating for a franchise QB. Out of the last 5 years, the Rams have drafted 2-O-lineman, and 2 DE's. And the team has only gotten worse. So I don't think Suh will be their first pick. So it would make sense for them to draft a franchise QB with their coveted first pick. I hope they draft Bradford, that means we'll get JC, don't get it confused with Jason Campbell.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;662580]According to ESPN the Rams are developing a growing interest in Sam Bradford. With the Rams recently being sold to Shahid Kahn I'm positive he's salivating for a franchise QB. Out of the last 5 years, the Rams have drafted 2-O-lineman, and 2 DE's. And the team has only gotten worse. So it would make sense for them draft a franchise QB with their coveted first pick. I hope they draft Bradford, that means we'll get JC, don't get it confused with Jason Campbell.[/quote]

The Rams are a team I could see actually taking Colt in the 2nd round. Bradford's certainly a possibility though

I could see them trading for Vick though and drafting Colt to be their guy in 2011/12

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[quote=SmootSmack;662583]The Rams are a team I could see actually taking Colt in the 2nd round. Bradford's certainly a possibility though

I could see them trading for Vick though and drafting Colt to be their guy in 2011/12[/quote]

SS, I've said before that if Bradford falls to #4, we may have some suitors to trade down and get more picks. Do you think the same may happen if Bradford is gone and Clausen is there at #4?

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[quote=Ruhskins;662584]SS, I've said before that if Bradford falls to #4, we may have some suitors to trade down and get more picks. Do you think the same may happen if Bradford is gone and Clausen is there at #4?[/quote]

I suppose so. I think a team like Buffalo would be just as likely to trade up for Clausen as Bradford.

What happens at the combine will be huge

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I think the rams, if they do go QB will go with Clausen, he ran an offense like the rams in college, and the rams may not want to invest the first overall pick in bradford.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;662589]I think the rams, if they do go QB will go with Clausen, he ran an offense like the rams in college, and the rams may not want to invest the first overall pick in bradford.[/quote]

Why not, they have invested in an offensive line, and have a good running game. Their defense is not that great, but I believe they are pretty young on that side of the ball. Given that the QB free agency market is not the best, I case see why this would be an option for St. Louis.

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Ive been advocating that i dont want bradford OR clausen with the #4 pick. But if our backup plan is grabbing COLT FUCKIN MCCOY then i say GET BRADFORD @ #4!!! WE do not need Colt McCoy. He's a weak ass armed QB who will not develop into a quality NFL QB. In my book, a draft that falls in anyway that Colt McCoy is one of our picks and is our QB to develop then i will classify Shanahan's 1st draft as an EPIC fail. I dont see him being this dumb.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;662580]According to ESPN the Rams are developing a growing interest in Sam Bradford. With the Rams recently being sold to Shahid Kahn I'm positive he's salivating for a franchise QB. O[B]ut of the last 5 years, the Rams have drafted 2-O-lineman, and 2 DE's.[/B] [B]And the team has only gotten worse. [/B]So I don't think Suh will be their first pick. So it would make sense for them to draft a franchise QB with their coveted first pick. I hope they draft Bradford, that means we'll get JC, don't get it confused with Jason Campbell.[/quote]

What chu say?

But yeah I agree. The idea that there are safe positions at the top of the draft is faulty logic at best Robert Gallery was suppose to be one of the best Tackles of the decade. Chris Long still has time to develop but he hasn't had nearly the type of impact that people expected. I don't know exactly how Jason Smith did last year but the little I did hear about him wasn't exactly positive.

[quote=Ruhskins;662584]SS, I've said before that if Bradford falls to #4, we may have some suitors to trade down and get more picks. Do you think the same may happen if Bradford is gone and Clausen is there at #4?[/quote]

The thing is on the angle that they would be targeting for McCoy and Brown (my inside source filled me in on this :D) that the #4 pick is way to high for either of them. Ideally you would want a last first and early second to insure you get both of them. Brown being the late first pick.

I'm not totally sold on McCoy yet but on the surface he's got two of the things that a lot of successful NFL QB's had in college. A LOT of starts and a very high completion percentage. According to KC Joyner those are two very consistent predictors of success at the next level.

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They said we would get Sanchez last year. You never know what's going to happen. Personally I think that if either one of those two (Broke Dick / Douche Supreme) fall to the Skins, then their will be a team willing to trade up to get the pick.

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[quote=SmootSmack;662588]I suppose so. I think a team like Buffalo would be just as likely to trade up for Clausen as Bradford.

[B]What happens at the combine will be huge[/B][/quote]

basically

although next week when we have 2,053 mocks munched maybe we will know something

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[quote=mlmdub130;662643]basically

although next week when we have 2,053 mocks munched maybe we will know something[/quote]


ZOMG *(#%849574807543 MOCKS MUCHIFEID IN A PARTICAL PROTON ACCELERATOR!!!! ZOMG ITZ A SAM BraDFORD'Z!!!! *SHOCKED FACE*

Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. I actually kind of appreciate the new threads because even though I hate clutter it still sucks when people don't post often and these "munch" threads seem to get people to post.

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[quote=SmootSmack;662583]The Rams are a team I could see actually taking Colt in the 2nd round. Bradford's certainly a possibility though

I could see them trading for Vick though and drafting Colt to be their guy in 2011/12[/quote]

With Vick at QB it would be 2011 at the latest.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;662646]ZOMG *(#%849574807543 MOCKS MUCHIFEID IN A PARTICAL PROTON ACCELERATOR!!!! ZOMG ITZ A SAM BraDFORD'Z!!!! *SHOCKED FACE*

Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. I actually kind of appreciate the new threads because even though I hate clutter it still sucks when people don't post often and these "munch" threads seem to get people to post.[/quote]

i hear ya, but for anyone to assume anything before the combines, well ass=u+me

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I listened to the Kiper/McShay podcast on the draft and they talked QB for a good while. Both like Bradford but have some of the common concerns (injury, build, spread offsense) but both like him early in the 1st..

They widely differ on Clausen however, Mel has him as #6 overall prospect while McShay has him around #36. McShay simply doesn't think he's got what it takes mentally, physically or in work ethic to make it as a big time NFL QB. He thinks that Clausen has peaked and there's not much more that he can grow as a QB.

I don't know that I'd go that far but I will be surprised and disappointed if we pick him at #4.

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[quote=Paintrain;662992]I listened to the Kiper/McShay podcast on the draft and they talked QB for a good while. Both like Bradford but have some of the common concerns (injury, build,[B] spread offsense[/B]) but both like him early in the 1st..

They widely differ on Clausen however, Mel has him as #6 overall prospect while McShay has him around #36. McShay simply doesn't think he's got what it takes mentally, physically or in work ethic to make it as a big time NFL QB. He thinks that Clausen has peaked and there's not much more that he can grow as a QB.

I don't know that I'd go that far but I will be surprised and disappointed if we pick him at #4.[/quote]

Ok, seriously, whats the deal with this? Bradford put up great numbers in a pro style offense as well. Heck with his numbers that year he still would have been a top 10 pick easily. I mean are they concerned that the spread offense has made him rusty or what?

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I would be estatic with the Charles Brown/Colt McCoy scenario. They are both a position of need. As far as Brown, it's hard to go wrong with a USC lineman. And with McCoy, as much as we can all give our opinons on his physical tools, there are a few things that all the experts agree on: His work ethic, leadership skills, pristine image, career completion percentage, toughness (one hit by a 300 lb lineman to his throwing shoulder doesn't make him a pussy after enduring all of last season behind his porous offensive line), ability to scramble, career starts, record wins, and raw emotion for the game. I will go on the record and say he will be a franchise signal caller due to his immense work ethic alone. People are knocking McCoy this year for alot of the reasons they knocked Brees coming out of college. Most experts would agree with the makings of a good QB, in this order:

1-Work ethic
2-Accuracy
3-Leadership skills
4-Quick release
5-Durability
6-Arm Strength

Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Tony Romo & Matt Hasselbeck are 4 current QB's I can name who fit this mold. Looking at all time greats, Joe Montana comes to mind when looking at the list above (I am not making McCoy/Montana comparisions). All I'm sayingis this guy has all the intangibles you could ask for and adequate physical tools in order to be groomed as a franchise signal caller. I would love to have him in the B&G and hope we get him in the 2nd!

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McCoy also has four years of starting experience under his belt at a very prestigious program. Thats rare and usually serves as a plus for any QB entering the NFL.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;663013]Ok, seriously, whats the deal with this? Bradford put up great numbers in a pro style offense as well. Heck with his numbers that year he still would have been a top 10 pick easily. I mean are they concerned that the spread offense has made him rusty or what?[/quote]

imo the problem with taking a spread offense-shotgun qb is that there field of vision is different. in the shotgun, the ball is hiked and the qb has the ball looking down field before the d lineman really get out of there stance.

under center, the qb has to use his footwork to quickly drop back 3 to 7 steps before really getting a look at the field. and the time the qb takes to step back then plant gives the D more time to close in.

that shotgun offense can work in college but not in the nfl where you cant limit your running game to that degree. everytime bradford was under center, it was to play action or run the ball (atleast the 100 plus snaps ive seen him take). you just cant limit your ability to keep the opposing D off balance in trying to figure out if you are gonna run or pass by going shotgun offense.

i dont have a problem with bradford, claussen, okung, suh, trading back etc . . . but there is a good reason why one of the knocks on bradford is that he ran a spread shotgun offense with a great O line.

just watching claussen v bradford (yeah i know highlight reels, etc) you can see claussen dealing with plays at ND that he will see in the NFL. under center, using his footwork to drop back while surveying the field, planting his feet, guys closing in on him, having to make quick decisions and tight throws.

with bradford, its hard for me to get a feel for him since hes always in shotgun, gets to survey the field with no pressure right at the snap, after the ball is snapped his great o line gives him alot of room, he doesnt have to worry about pressure, then he throws an accurate pass to a wide open guy. im exagerating alil, im sure bradford dis get sacked and pressured at times but not like claussen imo. claussen had to deal with a crappy ND team with his o line nowehere near bradfords and he had to do it under center, maintiaing his footwork dropping back while surveyring the field.

also, i keep hearing claussen made his own reads of the D where bradford had all the mental aspects of reading a D called into him from the sideline.

just seems claussen has already seen and dealt with what he will see in the nfl week in week out. whereas bradford is going to learn quickly that playing qb at ok was cupcake compared to the nfl.

this isnt to say bradford wont learn quickly or wont be the better nfl qb. i know scouts have said bradford played in a pro style offense in '07 but all the videos i watched from that year show alot of shotgun with some under center passes mixed in there.



lol you can tell im at work.

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[quote=over the mountain;663018]
with bradford, [B]its hard for me to get a feel for him since hes always in shotgun, gets to survey the field with no pressure right at the snap, [/B]after the ball is snapped his great o line gives him alot of room, he doesnt have to worry about pressure, then he throws an accurate pass to a wide open guy. im exagerating alil, im sure bradford dis get sacked and pressured at times but not like claussen imo. claussen had to deal with a crappy ND team with his o line nowehere near bradfords and he had to do it under center, maintiaing his footwork dropping back while surveyring the field.

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Here you go. Footage of Bradford under center.
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[quote=Ruhskins;662584]SS, I've said before that if Bradford falls to #4, we may have some suitors to trade down and get more picks. Do you think the same may happen if Bradford is gone and [B]Clausen is there at #4?[/B][/quote]

Yes ....he is maybe better than Bradford if anything. both are comparable I think the difference is Bradford more leadership and maturity and accuracy vs Clausen better mobility, quicker throw on and in the throw, great fade throws, HUGE STUDYING RAT.


Both are worth a 4th round pick. Okung is an overrated OT and I wouldn't pick him if my life depend on it, he gets killed against big bull rushing DE's.

Trent Cole-Justin Tuck- Dware would chew him up.

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shoot, i already watched that clip buddy. i saw a FEW passes from under center by bradford in that video of the miami game.

i dont include handoffs and playactions under center as passing from under center.

after you posted that vid, i went and tried to find other videos of him from '07 with very limited success. seems the only vids i could find are just one game highlights (like this one) were you have to watch a whole lot of plays and bradford throwing the ball is roughly 1 play out of 10 i gotta watch.

i would love to see or find some better footage from bradford in '07, i stopped looking but maybe you know some better sources than youtube. if so, i would love to take a look.

dirt - do you agree, disagree or in some way agree with my take on why a shotgun qb in college makes it harder to evaluate and predict how that qb will play in the nfl?