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Monkeydad 03-05-2010 03:31 PM

Big Ben accused of sexual assault...AGAIN
 
[URL="http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger-accused-of-sexual-assault/"]Ben Roethlisberger Accused of Sexual Assault | TMZ.com[/URL]

Ben Roethlisberger Accused of Sexual Assault

Posted Mar 5th 2010 3:15PM by TMZ Staff

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault by a young woman in Georgia
, TMZ has learned.

The alleged incident occurred early this morning at Capital City -- a club in Milledgeville, Georgia.

The alleged victim, who has already been interviewed by police, has been treated and released.

We're told in addition to the alleged victim, witnesses are being interviewed -- and one law enforcement source says they will attempt to interview Roethlisberger.

In addition to the Milledgeville Police Dept, we've learned the Georgia Bureau of Investigations is also investigating.

As we previously reported, Roethlisberger is being sued by a Reno woman, Andrea McNulty, who claims the QB sexually assaulted her in 2008.

UPDATE: We're told Roethlisberger has already been interviewed by police. We're also told no formal charges have been filed at this point.

Story developing ...

Read more: [URL="http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger-accused-of-sexual-assault/#ixzz0hKu4rUwD"]Ben Roethlisberger Accused of Sexual Assault | TMZ.com[/URL]

Redskins_P 03-05-2010 03:33 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Wtf???

Monkeydad 03-05-2010 03:35 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Not the greatest source, but maybe the previous non-incident wasn't really one?

Whether he did anything previously or not, it should have been a wakeup call not to put himself in any situations to be accused, whether falsely or legitmately.

Ruhskins 03-05-2010 03:46 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
NFL Players + Clubs = Not a good idea.

Chico23231 03-05-2010 03:57 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
He didnt learn? once im speculative, twice in a year...looks to be an issue that needs to be addressed. Ill wait for more info, but im not gonna give him a pass like the first incident which sounded kinda crazy

SolidSnake84 03-05-2010 03:59 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
There is something going on with Ben....i won't blame him yet, but you keep hearing about these woman claiming that he raped them

Redskins_P 03-05-2010 04:01 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Could Big Ben be a raging alcoholic woman abuser? He certainly doesn't look like that type. But you never really know....

tryfuhl 03-05-2010 04:15 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
oh my

Ruhskins 03-05-2010 04:22 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=Redskins_P;670211]Could Big Ben be a raging alcoholic woman abuser? He certainly doesn't look like that type. But you never really know....[/quote]

Well we thought Marvin Harrison was a nice guy and look how that turned out to be.

Chico23231 03-05-2010 04:29 PM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
I always thought Pac Man was a nice guy too...just a little rebellion

GMScud 03-06-2010 12:02 AM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
I think rape and sexual assault are two different things. Rape is sexual assault for sure, but all sexual assault is not rape if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, this is really troubling. If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat... Twice in a year is not a good thing. There's clearly something going on. I don't get it. He's a 2x Super Bowl champion QB. I don't care how chubby he is, he could have women lining up to sleep with him. Why is there any need for this kind of crap?

The Goat 03-06-2010 01:04 AM

re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=GMScud;670350]I think rape and sexual assault are two different things. Rape is sexual assault for sure, but all sexual assault is not rape if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, this is really troubling. If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat... Twice in a year is not a good thing. There's clearly something going on. I don't get it. He's a 2x Super Bowl champion QB. [B]I don't care how chubby he is, he could women lining up to sleep with him. Why is there any need for this kind of crap?[/B][/quote]

That's the kicker. We've all got friends who aren't 1) rich 2) famous 3) prized athletes, who can pretty much get as much hot tail as they like. So it kinda looks like Ben is a frustrated headcase who turns to anger w/ the ladies.

MTK 03-08-2010 12:15 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
It might be wise if he stayed away from the club scene. This is starting to become a pattern for him.

SmootSmack 03-08-2010 12:26 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
I think the police are holding a press conference this afternoon at 4pm to discuss this

When I first heard about this, I thought it was just the same story as before. Didn't realize until this thread that it's actually another case

firstdown 03-08-2010 12:26 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=The Goat;670369]That's the kicker. We've all got friends who aren't 1) rich 2) famous 3) prized athletes, who can pretty much get as much hot tail as they like. So it kinda looks like Ben is a frustrated headcase who turns to anger w/ the ladies.[/quote]

I was always that friend!!!!!!!!!!!!

tryfuhl 03-08-2010 12:31 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=GMScud;670350]I think rape and sexual assault are two different things. Rape is sexual assault for sure, but all sexual assault is not rape if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, this is really troubling. If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat... Twice in a year is not a good thing. There's clearly something going on. I don't get it. He's a 2x Super Bowl champion QB. I don't care how chubby he is, he could have women lining up to sleep with him. Why is there any need for this kind of crap?[/quote]

I think that with forced sexual encounters it's more about dominance and control at that point than anything.

SFREDSKIN 03-08-2010 12:39 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Second time in 8 months. This guy is a moron, first the motorcycle accident then the 2 assault cases, some people never learn or realize how lucky they are.

Monkeydad 03-08-2010 12:43 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=Mattyk;671060]It might be wise if he stayed away from the club scene. This is starting to become a pattern for him.[/quote]

Perhaps if he had worn a motorcycle helmet, he wouldn't be getting into these situations over and over.

skinsfan69 03-08-2010 12:43 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
how do you sexually assault someone in a club?? what did he grab her ass or something?? lol. ben is a dumbass for putting himself in that position but i find it hard to believe an assault when on here. but ben really needs to get his act together and start growing up.

Longtimefan 03-08-2010 12:50 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Can we begin now to think character issues with Big Ben? Seems as though a pattern is beginning to develop that has a lot to do with him hanging around with the wrong kind of people.

Character is judged by the company you keep.

SmootSmack 03-08-2010 12:59 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=skinsfan69;671075]how do you sexually assault someone in a club?? what did he grab her ass or something?? lol. ben is a dumbass for putting himself in that position but i find it hard to believe an assault when on here. but ben really needs to get his act together and start growing up.[/quote]

She could have been invited into a private VIP area, thinking she was going to party with some celebrities

Monkeydad 03-08-2010 01:03 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=Longtimefan;671080]Can we begin now to think character issues with Big Ben? Seems as though a pattern is beginning to develop that has a lot to do with him hanging around with the wrong kind of people.

[B]Character is judged by the company you keep.[/B][/quote]

Very true.

SolidSnake84 03-08-2010 01:07 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
This is the exact reason why the Giants passed on ben in the 2004 draft. They knew his off the field actions were questionable and risky, even in his college games.

You are seeing the reason why right now. I'm starting to believe the 1st girl actually was raped by Ben.

Mechanix544 03-08-2010 01:53 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;671100]This is the exact reason why the Giants passed on ben in the 2004 draft. They knew his off the field actions were questionable and risky, even in his college games.

You are seeing the reason why right now. I'm starting to believe the 1st girl actually was raped by Ben.[/quote]

Uhhhh, lets not get carried away here. I am not defending the guy, but if it took place in a club, well, I doubt its anything more than a misconstrued touch or dancing taken a little too far. I doubt he'd grab the girls head with both of his man hands, force it into his crotch area, and check her temperature with his meat thermometer all while drinking his 7 and 7, getting hypnotized by flashing strobe lights and getting a pounding headache from distortedly loud music. (All this with plenty of people around.) I just really think given the venue, this is prolly a money grab, but hey, who knows..........

saden1 03-08-2010 02:02 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. It's time for Big Ben and Little Ben to visit Mississippi.

Redskin Warrior 03-08-2010 02:07 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Tiger & Big Ben partners in sex rehab?

Dirtbag59 03-08-2010 02:11 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
The word on Big Ben in Pittsburgh is that he's basically a pussy pirate, or at least thats what my cousin tells me. Personally this could go either way. I mean if you were looking to extort an athlete for money Big Ben would be pretty ripe. I mean coming off a previous sexual assault charge and having the same thing happen again is enough to create doubt in the mind of plenty of people.

On the other hand there have been plenty of rapist out that have been charming and visible in the community with a positive image, enough that they're able to get away with whatever their hearts desire. Some are also really good at picking victims that would hypothetically lack credibility when it comes to a trial.

I'll personally wait for the evidence on this one. But initially it sounds like another extortion case to me.

Maybe Ben should just change his name, I mean this is the man that had someone impersonating him to get dates:
[url=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05197/539012-66.stm]Man accused of impersonating Steelers quarterback[/url]

My favorite headline though is this:
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4976276]Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger hires high-profile Atlanta lawyer - ESPN[/url]

Come on, what do they want Ben to do? Of course he's going to hire a high-profile attorney. It's like Ben hires former institutionalized inmate to prove innocence. The real question is what the hell is Ben doing in Millidgeville, Georgia? I've been to Milidgeville, theres nothing to do there.

[quote=Redskins_P;670211]Could Big Ben be a [B]raging alcoholic[/B] woman abuser? He certainly doesn't look like that type. But you never really know....[/quote]

The alcohlic part is something I'm starting to believe.

Exhibit A:
[url]http://uploads.filecabin.com/pictures/ben_roethlisberger_drunk.jpg[/url]
[url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E8BpJEni77I/SmY3lq5MFPI/AAAAAAAAKAo/P4oL0fqDrHU/s400/ben-roethlisberger-drunk-pictures11.jpg[/url]

Exhibit B:
One of the most telling side effects of alcohol abuse is weight gain despite living an active lifestyle:
Rookie Year:
[IMG]http://blackchristiannews.com/news/ben-roethlisberger.jpg[/IMG]

2009:
[IMG]http://blog.cleveland.com/startingblocks/2009/07/large_ben-roethlisberger-photo.jpg[/IMG]

mredskins 03-08-2010 02:20 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;671147]Tiger & Big Ben partners in sex rehab?[/quote]


Big difference between being addict to sex and a rapists. Rapists don't go to rehab they go to prison. IF Big Ben is guilty of this he and Tiger are not in the same boat by a mile.

tryfuhl 03-08-2010 03:17 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=SmootSmack;671092]She could have been invited into a private VIP area, thinking she was going to party with some celebrities[/quote]

I think that they said it was in the bathroom

to me there's only one reason a guy and a girl hit the bathroom together in a club but who knows, could've been a tease gone wrong

the police "source" said it looked like she'd been crying for hours or something

tryfuhl 03-08-2010 03:21 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
One of the interviewees from the club said Ben wasn't drinking but he was buying shots for people, I don't know

mredskins 03-08-2010 03:22 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;671149]The word on Big Ben in Pittsburgh is that he's basically a pussy pirate, or at least thats what my cousin tells me. Personally this could go either way. I mean if you were looking to extort an athlete for money Big Ben would be pretty ripe. I mean coming off a previous sexual assault charge and having the same thing happen again is enough to create doubt in the mind of plenty of people.

On the other hand there have been plenty of rapist out that have been charming and visible in the community with a positive image, enough that they're able to get away with whatever their hearts desire. Some are also really good at picking victims that would hypothetically lack credibility when it comes to a trial.

I'll personally wait for the evidence on this one. But initially it sounds like another extortion case to me.

Maybe Ben should just change his name, I mean this is the man that had someone impersonating him to get dates:
[URL="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05197/539012-66.stm"]Man accused of impersonating Steelers quarterback[/URL]

My favorite headline though is this:
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4976276"]Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger hires high-profile Atlanta lawyer - ESPN[/URL]

Come on, what do they want Ben to do? Of course he's going to hire a high-profile attorney. It's like Ben hires former institutionalized inmate to prove innocence. The real question is what the hell is Ben doing in Millidgeville, Georgia? I've been to Milidgeville, theres nothing to do there.



The alcohlic part is something I'm starting to believe.

Exhibit A:
[URL]http://uploads.filecabin.com/pictures/ben_roethlisberger_drunk.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E8BpJEni77I/SmY3lq5MFPI/AAAAAAAAKAo/P4oL0fqDrHU/s400/ben-roethlisberger-drunk-pictures11.jpg[/URL]

Exhibit B:
One of the most telling side effects of alcohol abuse is weight gain despite living an active lifestyle:
Rookie Year:
[IMG]http://blackchristiannews.com/news/ben-roethlisberger.jpg[/IMG]

2009:
[IMG]http://blog.cleveland.com/startingblocks/2009/07/large_ben-roethlisberger-photo.jpg[/IMG][/quote]


I am not really seeing a Jenny Craig before and after photo here. Some people just have chubby cheeks even when they are thin. To say becasue he has gained some weight he is alcoholic is kind of a stretch.

tryfuhl 03-08-2010 03:29 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=mredskins;671173]I am not really seeing a Jenny Craig before and after photo here. Some people just have chubby cheeks even when they are thin. To say becasue he has gained some weight he is alcoholic is kind of a stretch.[/quote]

Dude.. it's not just his face haha

guy did a gregg williams transformation, but he did it first

Longtimefan 03-08-2010 03:31 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=saden1;671145]Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. It's time for Big Ben and Little Ben to visit Mississippi.[/quote]

Saden maybe you should fax that line to George Bush so the next time he makes an attempt to paraphrase it publicly he'll get it right.

MTK 03-08-2010 03:33 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
He's definitely filled out a lot since he was a rook. I do agree it's a bit of a stretch to blame it all on booze. It may be a part of it but he's also 6 years older and I read an article on him where he said he has bulked up on purpose in order to take the punishment of playing QB.

skinsfan69 03-08-2010 03:48 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=SmootSmack;671092]She could have been invited into a private VIP area, thinking she was going to party with some celebrities[/quote]

well that's what happened...i saw it on espn. he was having one of his boys to go out and recruit women to come into the vip section, so there were people around. i mean how much of an assult could've went on if he's up in a vip section with many people around. this is so stupid on so many levels.

SolidSnake84 03-08-2010 03:59 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=skinsfan69;671185]well that's what happened...i saw it on espn. he was having one of his boys to go out and recruit women to come into the vip section, so there were people around. i mean how much of an assult could've went on if he's up in a vip section with many people around. this is so stupid on so many levels.[/quote]

He went into the bathroom with the girl....where no one was around...

GusFrerotte 03-08-2010 04:04 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=The Goat;670369]That's the kicker. We've all got friends who aren't 1) rich 2) famous 3) prized athletes, who can pretty much get as much hot tail as they like. So it kinda looks like Ben is a frustrated headcase who turns to anger w/ the ladies.[/quote]

Or he is using roids or taking way too many amino acid tablets(legal roids). As a freshman, me, my roomie, and one of my suite mates had to use all the strengh we had to hold back our other suite mate(who was drunk as hell) from raping a female friend of his that was visiting us when he got back. The guy was drunk, but he was a bodybuilder, that was taking amino acid big time. The guy saw Heather( a rather shapely brunette) and went bonkers.

Dirtbag59 03-08-2010 04:08 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=mredskins;671173]I am not really seeing a Jenny Craig before and after photo here. Some people just have chubby cheeks even when they are thin. To say becasue he has gained some weight he is alcoholic is kind of a stretch.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm not saying that it's definitely proves he's an alcohlic but I do think that combined with the photos (of him around town) and reputation he has around town it makes a case towards that possibility. I mean one of the easiest ways to gain weight is to drink alcohol and Ben's weight has been going up without muscle gain which is unusual for a guy thats as physically active as a pro football player.

In the end it's just circumstantial but it does point to the possibility.

[quote=Mattyk;671182]He's definitely filled out a lot since he was a rook. I do agree it's a bit of a stretch to blame it all on booze. It may be a part of it but he's also 6 years older and I read an article on him where he said he has bulked up on purpose in order to take the punishment of playing QB.[/quote]

Agreed, and by the same token McNabb has gained a lot of weight to since his rookie year so maybe I'm making a lot of noise about nothing. I still think though that theres a strong chance that he's an alcoholic. Just based on what I've seen from people that I've met in my own life (none in my own family mind you) and other stuff that I keep hearing about Ben, especially from the part of my family that currently lives in Pittsburgh.

Better yet if I were to put a number on it I would say that I'm 70% sure.

Edit: On a side note, owning a shirt that says "drink like a champion" doesn't really help your case :D

GusFrerotte 03-08-2010 04:14 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
[quote=skinsfan69;671185]well that's what happened...i saw it on espn. he was having one of his boys to go out and recruit women to come into the vip section, so there were people around. i mean how much of an assult could've went on if he's up in a vip section with many people around. this is so stupid on so many levels.[/quote]


Why would it be? IF he was with his homies, do you think they would have done anything if Ben bent her over, etc? If they were drunk they would have laughed or joined in probably. Not saying it happened, I wasn't there, but just from experience in college, befriending many college athletes in a MAC school, I can tell you I wouldn't feel too comfortable being a hot blond weighing 115 lbs finding myself in a room of a bunch of drunk, horny male athletes or their gophers.

firstdown 03-08-2010 04:19 PM

Re: Big Ben accused of sexual assault
 
Any girl willing to join a guy in a bathroom is pretty nasty to start with. Hey mom I want you to meet Susan we met in the bathroom of the local sports bar. She a really sweet girl and does not even mind urin soaked floors. Maybe Ben shot off when getting escorted to the VIP section.


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