Skins sign blocking TE Sean Ryan
 

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Washington spending again (just not the way people thought). Redskins signed former Chiefs tight end Sean Ryan to a one-year contract.

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He's 6-5, 260 lbs:

Comment: Ryan is an average athlete with good size and is primarily used in blocking situations. He has adequate strength as a run-blocker with good effort to sustain and finish at the point of attack. He has the ability to create movement when he keeps his pads down. He can work double teams effectively and is agile enough to make small adjustments in space. As a receiver, he has limited speed and quickness downfield, but he can adjust to the ball outside his frame. He has trouble separating from linebackers coming out of his breaks. He is alert to settle quickly in the soft spots of zone coverage, but is limited athletically to make plays after the catch.

[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/players/scouting?playerId=5669]Sean Ryan Scouting - Kansas City Chiefs - ESPN[/url]

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I think this move may be an expression of Mike Shanahan's philosophy of having competition at every position. It looks like he's split the TE's into two positions and Ryan is apparently Yoder's competition at Blocking TE. Shanahan said that he likes to have a Blocking TE and a Receiving TE.

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Competition signing where his role will be sorted out during up-coming drills and training camp. Depending on how many TE's we keep he could provide competition as a blocker, with Cooley and Davis we don't need pass catching TE's.

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Is Yoder currently under contract?

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Cooley & Davis aren't great blockers, that's for sure. I know CC has worked on his blocking over the years & has shown improvement but he struggles at the LOS v. most OLBs. Maybe the new O & its zone blocking (though the Zorn O. supposedly used 90% zone blocking) scheme will be more suited to him. He's a better blocker in space from what I've observed.

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I don't think they re-siged Yoder anyway...

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Great move. Allen said previously he wanted a good blocking TE, this fills the role and helps a probably average at best run blocking Oline at this point and improves a below average run blocking combo of Cooley Davis and Yoder. So far A- grade from me in free agency.

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From GTripps sheet:
#8 Sean Ryan age 30 score 76 Kansas City

Upside: Made it to starting lineup on his second team in 2009
Downside: Can't block well enough to be a complement to a receiving TE

by GTripps sheet he would be an upgrade to Yoder.

A little worried that he has been on 6 teams in 6 years, and dislike that he is a former Cowboy.

BUT, he will be good camp competition no matter what, and since he was with our new TE coach last season it probably is a positive signing overall

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He's just here for competition. I have some doubt as to whether he makes the roster as a TE.

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Is this for training camp,

or

is the front office getting ready to trade a tight end??

just a thought

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Cooley and Davis are both pass-catching tight ends. Ryan is a blocking tight end. Signing Ryan has nothing to do with Cooley or Davis.

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Let's keep in mind guys, just because we're signing folks doesn't necessarily mean they're going to make the team. I mean, guys like Hicks and Nemo should be locks but I wouldn't get worked up about every free agent signing from here until the start of the season.

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Here is Matt Moseley's blog entry, nice mention on special teams blocking, that would be a solid plus in my book:

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/11918/ex-cowboys-te-signs-with-redskins]Ex-Cowboys TE signs with Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

[QUOTE]
By Matt Mosley
Sean Ryan's nomadic NFL career continued Thursday when he signed with the Washington Redskins. Ryan, a fifth-round pick by the Cowboys in '04, has now been on six different rosters in as many seasons.

I was covering the Cowboys for The Dallas Morning News when Ryan entered the league. [B]Bill Parcells loved him from the start because he was an extremely tough player from the Northeast. Parcells had an affinity for Boston College players (see Marc Colombo) and Ryan turned out to be a solid special-teams player who could be a punishing blocker.[/B] He played for former Cowboys assistant Todd Haley in Kansas City last season and had a career-high 14 catches and two touchdowns.

He's not going to take any touches away from Chris Cooley or Fred Davis, but he can replace unrestricted free agent Todd Yoder as the Redskins' blocking tight end. Next up, the Redskins will take a look at former Chiefs running back Larry Johnson. We'll let you know how that visit went later today.[/QUOTE]

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Bye bye, Todd Yoder. Happy trails.

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[quote=Lotus;672535]Bye bye, Todd Yoder. Happy trails.[/quote]

Why no love for Yoder? Dude's alright.

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Yep it's his 7th team in 7 years.

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How does this make Cooley feel now that his best friend (Yoder) most likely won't be rejoing the team?

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[quote=SmokinSkins;672508]Is this for training camp,

or

is the front office getting ready to trade a tight end??

just a thought[/quote]

lol I doubt the signing of Sean Ryan signals the end of Cooley's time here in DC...just saying

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[quote=12thMan;672523]Let's keep in mind guys, just because we're signing folks doesn't necessarily mean they're going to make the team. I mean, guys like Hicks and Nemo should be locks but I wouldn't get worked up about every free agent signing from here until the start of the season.[/quote]

good point but we've signed like what...3 guys. That means Sean Ryan represents 33% of the action this offseason so we have to get up in arms about it haha

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;672543]Why no love for Yoder? Dude's alright.[/quote]

Yoder has been a fine Skin and I like him. I'm just trying to be realistic. We didn't sign Yoder, he's aging, we now have 3 TE's who are younger, etc.

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[quote=Lotus;672535]Bye bye, Todd Yoder. Happy trails.[/quote]

Ever stop to think that Sellers might be the odd man out in all this. I know it's a stretch but I've learned not to be surprised by anything this front office does.

In other news Redskins Head Coach Mike Shanahan has brought in another head coach to compete with him.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;672637]Ever stop to think that Sellers might be the odd man out in all this. I know it's a stretch but I've learned not to be surprised by anything this front office does.

In other news Redskins Head Coach Mike Shanahan has brought in another head coach to compete with him.[/quote]

Competition brings out the best, but I heard they were looking at within the organization to compete w/him. Wouldn't have to change much, just a letter or two.

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Kansas City used him a lot in [I]pass blocking[/I] last year, where he struggled. As a blocking TE, I think there are better options, but his frame is perfect for blocking purposes.

What I was trying to say in 11 words or less (this is quite hard for me, as one may imagine) is that he's poorly suited to be a No. 2 TE who plays a lot based on his blocking skills. In Yoder's role, he's an obvious upgrade.

Just don't ask him to do the job of the tackle, or Andre Carter is going to kill him.

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[quote=Lotus;672581]Yoder has been a fine Skin and I like him. I'm just trying to be realistic. We didn't sign Yoder, he's aging, we now have 3 TE's who are younger, etc.[/quote]

Perhaps . . .

Yoder catches TDs. He blocks. He knows his shit. Cooley used to drop the ball all the time. He still does every once in awhile. Neither Cooley or Davis block worth a damn. I'd rather have Yoder for one more year.

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Yoder doesn't block a damn either. Not even compared to Cooley or Davis.

Red zone machine though (now I'm just quoting my own spreadsheet) who was always open more than his fair share.

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I think we should just get Big Mike Williams to lose another hundred pounds and move him to TE.

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[quote=GTripp0012;672645]Yoder doesn't block a damn either. Not even compared to Cooley or Davis.

Red zone machine though (now I'm just quoting my own spreadsheet) who was always open more than his fair share.[/quote]

No way. Davis stinks at blocking and Cooley is coming back from an injury.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672651]I think we should just get Big Mike Williams to lose another hundred pounds and move him to TE.[/quote]

That's actually not a bad idea.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;672652]No way. Davis stinks at blocking and Cooley is coming back from an injury.[/quote]Davis has terrible blocking numbers--from both me and other sources--last year, but he's still a lot better at it that Yoder is.

Cooley is all over the place from year to year. Last year he was awful. He was awful when he came in to the league. In 2007 and 2008 he was one of the better blocking TEs in the league.

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This move doesn't make all that much sense to me. Ok, just because the guy cannot catch the ball well or isnt a good reciever does not automatically make him a "blocking" TE. The guy is mediocre, at best, at blocking, as many other teams have found out, and released him over his illustrious 7 season 7 team career. Another move, given our strength at the proposed position, that makes no sense. If you are gonna upgrade for a blocking TE that is athletic enough for the zone blocking scheme, then UPGRADE. Dont bring in a player that the TE coach or O.C. likes or is loyal to because he spent one year with him on a ridiculously bad team.

This move again, as well as most of the others with the exception of the roster cuts, baffles me.

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I guess pickings really are slim when people are getting their panties in a bunch over a move like this. Can't wait for when we make a real news worthy move.

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[quote=GTripp0012;672655]Davis has terrible blocking numbers--from both me and other sources--last year, but he's still a lot better at it that Yoder is.

Cooley is all over the place from year to year. Last year he was awful. He was awful when he came in to the league. In 2007 and 2008 he was one of the better blocking TEs in the league.[/quote]

I don't know what #s you're talking about? This new guy isn't better than Yoder IMO.

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[quote=Mechanix544;672656]This move doesn't make all that much sense to me. Ok, just because the guy cannot catch the ball well or isnt a good reciever does not automatically make him a "blocking" TE. The guy is mediocre, at best, at blocking, as many other teams have found out, and released him over his illustrious 7 season 7 team career. Another move, given our strength at the proposed position, that makes no sense. If you are gonna upgrade for a blocking TE that is athletic enough for the zone blocking scheme, then UPGRADE. Dont bring in a player that the TE coach or O.C. likes or is loyal to because he spent one year with him on a ridiculously bad team.

This move again, as well as most of the others with the exception of the roster cuts, baffles me.[/quote]

You may be looking at it from a standpoint of bringing in named players who will start immediately. If so, then yes none of the moves make much sense. But, if you look at each of these signings individually, and together, what you see is a solid push by the FO to make several statements:

1) We are going to push at every position. Was TE a glaring need like OL, no, so this signing puts a value on bringing in competition at one of the most solid spots on the team.

2) We understand our needs. It's not surprising that we are bringing in(have brought in) several OL, ILB, and RB's to look at. The FO shows a basic understanding of our weakest links

3) We will not overpay/guarantee for anything or anyone at this point. This demonstrates that the FO understands we are not that 1 player/signing away from Championship.

4) Finally, all these moves - the cuts and signings - reflect a new culture of productivity based employment, not earnings based. Every person on this roster should see a willingness on the new FO to let anyone go, and bring competition to any spot, and if you are not performing, someone else will be here that will gladly push themselves to perform.

That's how I see these moves, and I think it's a change we all can believe in ;)

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TE's one of our strengths so I don't really care about this guy, he won't be playing that much anyway

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;672670]You may be looking at it from a standpoint of bringing in named players who will start immediately. If so, then yes none of the moves make much sense. But, if you look at each of these signings individually, and together, what you see is a solid push by the FO to make several statements:

1) We are going to push at every position. Was TE a glaring need like OL, no, so this signing puts a value on bringing in competition at one of the most solid spots on the team.

2) We understand our needs. It's not surprising that we are bringing in(have brought in) several OL, ILB, and RB's to look at. The FO shows a basic understanding of our weakest links

3) We will not overpay/guarantee for anything or anyone at this point. This demonstrates that the FO understands we are not that 1 player/signing away from Championship.

4) Finally, all these moves - the cuts and signings - reflect a new culture of productivity based employment, not earnings based. Every person on this roster should see a willingness on the new FO to let anyone go, and bring competition to any spot, and if you are not performing, someone else will be here that will gladly push themselves to perform.

That's how I see these moves, and I think it's a change we all can believe in ;)[/quote]


I agree 100%!!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;672670]You may be looking at it from a standpoint of bringing in named players who will start immediately. If so, then yes none of the moves make much sense. But, if you look at each of these signings individually, and together, what you see is a solid push by the FO to make several statements:

1) We are going to push at every position. Was TE a glaring need like OL, no, so this signing puts a value on bringing in competition at one of the most solid spots on the team.

2) We understand our needs. It's not surprising that we are bringing in(have brought in) several OL, ILB, and RB's to look at. The FO shows a basic understanding of our weakest links

3) We will not overpay/guarantee for anything or anyone at this point. This demonstrates that the FO understands we are not that 1 player/signing away from Championship.

4) Finally, all these moves - the cuts and signings - reflect a new culture of productivity based employment, not earnings based. Every person on this roster should see a willingness on the new FO to let anyone go, and bring competition to any spot, and if you are not performing, someone else will be here that will gladly push themselves to perform.

That's how I see these moves, and I think it's a change we all can believe in ;)[/quote]

Fuck yeah! That's what I'm talking about!

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;672480]I think this move may be an expression of Mike Shanahan's philosophy of having competition at every position. It looks like he's split the TE's into two positions and Ryan is apparently Yoder's competition at Blocking TE. Shanahan said that he likes to have a Blocking TE and a Receiving TE.[/quote]I'm not sure we're bringing Yoder back.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;672509]Cooley and Davis are both pass-catching tight ends. Ryan is a blocking tight end. Signing Ryan has nothing to do with Cooley or Davis.[/quote]

Unless we go after another TE as well...

Too early to say it's one way or another

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[quote=Mechanix544;672656]This move doesn't make all that much sense to me. Ok, just because the guy cannot catch the ball well or isnt a good reciever does not automatically make him a "blocking" TE. The guy is mediocre, at best, at blocking, as many other teams have found out, and released him over his illustrious 7 season 7 team career. Another move, given our strength at the proposed position, that makes no sense. If you are gonna upgrade for a blocking TE that is athletic enough for the zone blocking scheme, then UPGRADE. Dont bring in a player that the TE coach or O.C. likes or is loyal to because he spent one year with him on a ridiculously bad team.

This move again, as well as most of the others with the exception of the roster cuts, baffles me.[/quote]

You could've said the same thing when we brought in Yoder.

Relax people.