JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker
 

@JasonLaCanfora Redskins among the team to inquire about Rams DT Adam Carriker. Coach Jim Haslett was in STL when Rams drafted him.

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Re: JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker
 

I think its great that we are grabbing guys that will help in the 3-4 but are we going to address any needs regarding the OL?

Re: JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker
 

I liked him coming out of Nebraska. It seems like things never really took off for him St. Louis. Interesting.

I don't know about another injury prone DT though.

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good move, he's still young and has alot to prove

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[quote=skinsfaninok;672783]good move, he's still young and has alot to prove[/quote]


Haha..he had a lot to prove in St. Louis when he got drafted. I believe that's one of the knocks on him, he really didn't seem motivated.

Re: JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker
 

I'll go on the record right now saying if signed, Carriker doesn't make the team.

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I can't imagine both him and Carter here so one coming in means the other is going. I'd suspect

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It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where Carter isn't here next year in some capacity, much easier to imagine a scenario where he just isn't as productive as last year.

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[quote=SmootSmack;672790]I can't imagine both him and Carter here so one coming in means the other is going. I'd suspect[/quote]

I can't see them letting Carter go, after an eleven sack season, for a bum coming off injuries either.

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lol why wouldn't they be interested? To me this just seems like they want help the Rams make their decision on going with Suh or McCoy. Am I the only one?

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What will it take to get him?

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[quote]What will it take to get him? [/quote]

Exactly, he's not a FA, we'd have to trade for him. I don't like the move myself, unless we package up a few players and send it down for some picks/players.

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[quote=IrMitchell;672798]lol why wouldn't they be interested? To me this just seems like they want help the Rams make their decision on going with Suh or McCoy. Am I the only one?[/quote]

Well, assuming that's our plans.. Then exactly what plans do we have for fixing up our O-line? In this plans; we trade our 2nd round pick for Carriker (only because Rams drafted Carriker in 1st round and we don't have 3rd pick), Rams will draft Suh or McCoy and then Bradford falls down to us.. We draft him.. We then most likely won't be able to draft O-line starter material men in 4th round or later..

Not exactly good plans..

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[quote=Dirtbag359;672802]What will it take to get him?[/quote]

Carter for Carriker and a 4th rounder in addition would be my guess.

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This kid has a whopping total of two sacks and about 50 tackles in three years, granted he was injured all of last year.

If --big IF--the Redskins bring him here, that means they've signed Nemo (who hasn't fully recovered yet) and Adam Carriker, who hasn't produced at all and has been injured twice in a very short career.

A straight up trade, maybe. But I don't think they should throw any picks the Rams way. If anything it should be the other way around.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;672807]Carter for Carriker and a 4th rounder in addition would be my guess.[/quote]

I was thinking Carter for Carriker and a 2nd or 3rd but your guess is likely better.

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[quote=12thMan;672812]A straight up trade, maybe. But I don't think they should throw any picks the Rams way. If anything it should be the other way around.[/quote]

I was saying the Rams forking an additional pick being a 4th rounder.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;672818]I was saying the Rams forking an additional pick being a 4th rounder.[/quote]

Okay, got it. I hope we don't fork over any picks for him, that's all I'm saying. Haslett drafted the kid so I'm pretty sure he's still high on him.

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[quote=12thMan;672820]Wait, are you saying we should package a Carter and a 2nd or 3rd to the Rams? Hell no![/quote]

NO!! Carter for Carriker and a 4th rounder by the Rams.

Re: JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker
 

I could see us trading Carter for Carriker.

or I could see Carriker being part of a huge trade that would send him and St. Louis's first overall pick to us for a lot of picks and players.

or

the saints just lost they're starting OLB to FA, and they cut they're starting DE. NO's Defense is run by Gregg Williams whom brought in Andre Carter and Rocky McIntosh. We are switching to a 3-4 Defense which Andre Carter has already said he doesn't fit in, and many believe Rocky would be too small for the project ILB position. Could I be sensing a trade here that would send Rocky and Andre to the saints for a few draft picks, like a 2nd and 6th rounder? Sure Rocky's been tendered for a 3rd, and we don't exactly know what we could get for andre, but I think if you put the two together we could be getting those picks, or similar picks

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[quote=CultBrennan59;672825]I could see us trading Carter for Carriker.

or I could see Carriker being part of a huge trade that would send him and St. Louis's first overall pick to us for a lot of picks and players.

or

the saints just lost they're starting OLB to FA, and they cut they're starting DE. NO's Defense is run by Gregg Williams whom brought in Andre Carter and Rocky McIntosh. We are switching to a 3-4 Defense which Andre Carter has already said he doesn't fit in, and many believe Rocky would be too small for the project ILB position. Could I be sensing a trade here that would send Rocky and Andre to the saints for a few draft picks, like a 2nd and 6th rounder? Sure Rocky's been tendered for a 3rd, and we don't exactly know what we could get for andre, but I think if you put the two together we could be getting those picks, or similar picks[/quote]

That would be absolutely amazing, but seems too good to be true aha.

Re: JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker
 

Carter will not be a Redskin by the start of the season. He isn't a good fit for the 3-4 and is due a big roster bonus (I think).

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[quote=murphy196;672846]Carter will not be a Redskin by the start of the season. He isn't a good fit for the 3-4 and is due a big roster bonus (I think).[/quote]

I agree...he came to the skins because he was no good in a 3-4 in SanFran. And i don't think he has near the trade value that others in this thread do. Sure he had a good year last year but he's an older player and teams generally do not give up draft picks for older players unless they are real difference makers. I suspect the Rams would just want a draft pick if they were to deal Carriker anyway.

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JLC seems to think the Carriker will get done eventually and Carter is pretty much gone, both via trade.

Also, I noticed that NFLN has Levi Jones as a roster cut. Missed that one.

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We don't seem to mind recent injury issues in this approach to FA.

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[quote=tryfuhl;672863]We don't seem to mind recent injury issues in this approach to FA.[/quote]


I really don't like the idea of trading for guy with his injury history.

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Well it's hard to call a single injury a "history" as most players end up with something sitting them down, but these have been more than some strains and pulls.

It's still early enough if some of these type of moves don't work out.

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ADAM CARRIKER

Gathered some info on him...

Scouts
[I]Three-year starter awarded All-Conference honors after his junior and senior campaigns. Totals last season were 52/16/7, with one interception and three pass break-ups. Junior totals included 43/17/9.5.

[B]Pos:[/B]
Physically impressive prospect who plays an intelligent brand of football. Instinctive and immediately locates the ball. Moves laterally with speed defending the run and has a burst upfield rushing the quarterback. Makes plays in all directions, immediately altering his angle of attack or redirecting to ball handlers. Flashes power and wraps-up tackling.

[B]Neg:[/B]
Stymied at the point of attack by a single blocker. Stands to develop more moves to disengage from opponents.
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[B]FFTOOLBOX[/B]
[I]Adam Carriker was a three years starter at defensive end for Nebraska and was one of the Big 12's most dominant defensive players during that period. Carriker brings an impressive frame at almost 300 pounds, with tremendous strength and athleticism for his size. His strength and long arms allow him to gain separation from the blocker and pursue the ball carrier or quarterback. Although his strength is against the run, Carriker established himself as pass rusher with 16.5 sacks over the last two seasons at Nebraska. Carriker displays excellent foot work and agility to make his way down the line of scrimmage in pursuit of the ball carrier. He is not as explosive off the edge as other prospects in the upcoming draft, but shows enough speed and quickness to close on most quarterbacks. Carriker's lack of speed off the edge makes him better suited for a 4-3 scheme versus a 3-4 at the next level. Some teams have shown concern over nagging ankle injuries that significantly limited his playing time during his first two years however; he has been injury free for the last two seasons. Carriker was extremely impressive at the Senior Bowl and combine workouts and solidified his position as a first round selection. Look for him to go mid-to-late first round.[/I]

[B]SBNation
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[I][B]Strengths and Weaknesses[/B]
I have seen people talking about Carriker not fitting into a 3-4 very well because of lack of speed. I don't get where that comes from other than Internet rumors, and I've addressed some of that above in the NFL Combine information. John Clayton states that he may be the best choice for a 3-4 defensive end in the draft.

Given his 6' 6", nearly 300 pound frame in combination with his quickness, Carriker keeps his feet very well, meaning that he won't be easily moved off the ball if he's asked to play defensive tackle or end in a 4-3.

Carriker's work ethic is well known and he has no character issues that I'm aware of. He was born in Hastings, Nebraska, and moved to Washington when he was three years old. As some of his family still resides in Nebraska, the Huskers were a natural choice for his college career.

With regards to weaknesses - go find one and let me know what it is because while he may not be the best fit into a very specific scheme, he does everything pretty well. Jamaal Anderson of Arkansas and Gaines Adams of Clemson are ranked above Carriker, but given his physical specimen, work ethic, and character, I'd argue that he's the best all-around defensive end prospect available for the NFL draft.
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[quote=tryfuhl;672868]Well it's hard to call a single injury a "history" as most players end up with something sitting them down, but these have been more than some strains and pulls.

It's still early enough if some of these type of moves don't work out.[/quote]

In 2007 he tore his labrum on the right shoulder, his rookie season, and was out all of 2009 with a season ending injury to his left shoulder.

I don't have it at my finger tips, but he's had ankle (same ankle) issues dating back to his days at Nebraska and has had trouble playing on it with the Rams. This isn't a single history thing with him. Not by a long stretch.

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So does this mean we are running the 3-4 scheme and not 4-3?

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;672889]So does this mean we are running the 3-4 scheme and not 4-3?[/quote]

Old news. They basically came out and said this during the Combine week.

Re: JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker
 

he would play 3-4 DE. i liked him a lot coming out of college, but definitely hasnt lived up to expectations. would be wary about this for sure.

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[quote=Daseal;672805]Exactly, he's not a FA, we'd have to trade for him. I don't like the move myself, unless we package up a few players and send it down for some picks/players.[/quote]


Trade for him? Maybe if his name was Julius Peppers or Demarcus Ware, not some unproven commodity from St Louis!!!

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[quote=Big C;672894]he would play 3-4 DE. i liked him a lot coming out of college, but definitely hasnt lived up to expectations. would be wary about this for sure.[/quote]

If he comes here I really hope he pains out. I really do. But this just reeks of Courtney Brown.

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Coming off a double-digit sack season, Carter should command some good trade coin. Carriker would not be my first choice but if, to boot, we picked up a draft pick (a third would be sweet), that might not be too bad.

If we get Carriker it might also increase the likelihood that the Rams take a DT with the first pick.

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[quote=Lotus;672898]Coming off a double-digit sack season, Carter should command some good trade coin. Carriker would not be my first choice but if, to boot, we picked up a draft pick (a third would be sweet), that might not be too bad.

If we get Carriker it might also increase the likelihood that the Rams take a DT with the first pick.[/quote]

Very likely to happen if they trade Carriker. The thing with him is that a lot of folks felt he was better suited for a 3-4 from the jump and that he couldn't take a beating at DT like he has and now we're getting him with a bum ankle and two beat up shoulders.

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[quote=12thMan;672899]Very likely to happen if they trade Carriker. The thing with him is that a lot of folks felt he was better suited for a 3-4 from the jump and that he couldn't take a beating at DT like he has and now we're getting him with a bum ankle and two beat up shoulders.[/quote]

Yes, see my post on page 2 #21, I'm tired of putting it up all over the boards tonight.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;672902]Yes, see my post on page 2 #21, I'm tired of putting it up all over the boards tonight.[/quote]

I think something in that realm could happen. We might throw in Colt Brennan for good measure. I'm being serious.

Carriker doesn't come here in a straight up trade for Carter, and I can't see a scenerio where we're parting with draft picks, the few that we have, to make this happen either.

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[quote=12thMan;672904]I think something in that realm could happen. We might throw in Colt Brennan for good measure. I'm being serious.

Carriker doesn't come here in a straight up trade for Carter, and I can't see a scenerio where we're parting with draft picks, the few that we have, to make this happen either.[/quote]

But we could trade draft picks and trade some of the players mentioned in my signature to get more draft picks, just to other teams.