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diehardskin2982 04-06-2010 12:21 PM

Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
I wanted to change pace a little with all the McNabb talk and look at the second string QB position. Grossman vs. Brennan... sure it could be said that Colt might not even make it on the roster, in this scenario lets say he does. How can he leapfrog Grossman? I know if I was Colt I would be sitting in Kyle's hip pocket and practicing everyday like it's my last.

I know nothing about Colt's work ethic or film study skills, but with Campbell on his way out the door this is the best time for Brennan to step it up. I want to hear from the fans that know this kid really and can explain it to me if he has what it takes to make a difference as the back up for the redskins.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-06-2010 12:27 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
This is the sort of nonsense i only expect to find on ES.

Brennan has a 0.00% chance to be our #2 QB.
Brennan has a 0.01% chance to be our #3 QB.

So I think the more appropriate question would be:

[I]Can Colt Brennan convince Shanahan to devote 4 roster spots to the QB position to ensure that Brennan has a 1% chance to be the 4th QB?[/I]

diehardskin2982 04-06-2010 12:35 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
^ what has been an indication to you that after bringing in McNabb and with the limited amount of draft picks that they will STILL spend a pick on a QB? I think honest you are way off base here...

BigHairedAristocrat 04-06-2010 12:39 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;684169]^ what has been an indication to you that after bringing in McNabb and with the limited amount of draft picks that they will STILL spend a pick on a QB? I think honest you are way off base here...[/quote]

Shanahan is going to want to draft his own project QB. I'm certain we'll acquire more picks before the draft, but if we just go through the draft with the picks we have, we'll probably spend our 4th or 5th round pick on a QB. If we acquire more picks, I think its possible we select one earlier.

Lotus 04-06-2010 12:43 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
We wouldn't have brought in Grossman if we were planning on keeping PJ15. Brennan is a goner.

GMScud 04-06-2010 12:45 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
Meh. They're both doo doo. One of them won't be on the 53 man, because we're going to bring a rookie QB into the fold.

diehardskin2982 04-06-2010 12:45 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
I dissagree, we have 2 many other pressing needs and in the press conference shanny relates McNabb to Elway, and Steve Young. I think the line, WR, and the defense will be the priority now in Washington.

44ever 04-06-2010 12:51 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
I have been a Colt fan since we got him. I believe he has great potential to be a great QB. I also believe he has more raw talent than Grossman BUT... Like BHA stated "Shanahan is going to want to draft his own project QB"

I for one would love to see Colt get a shot as a Skin. And hope he does beat Grossman for a place in the lineup.

johno 04-06-2010 12:52 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
no.

sexyrexy>CB15

skinsfan69 04-06-2010 12:56 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
I don't want either of these guys to see the field and hope they bring back JC as the #2. Chances are McNabb isn't going to make if for all 16 games and the back up may have to play a couple of games. Grossman is horrible and I can't believe they even signed him.

tryfuhl 04-06-2010 12:57 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;684146]This is the sort of nonsense i only expect to find on ES.

Brennan has a 0.00% chance to be our #2 QB.
Brennan has a 0.01% chance to be our #3 QB.

So I think the more appropriate question would be:

[I]Can Colt Brennan convince Shanahan to devote 4 roster spots to the QB position to ensure that Brennan has a 1% chance to be the 4th QB?[/I][/quote]

umm Campbell will likely be moved.. if not Brennan probably won't make it

if he is, Brennan has a good shot unless we draft somebody

there's no need to trim down the number of QBs yet

SmootSmack 04-06-2010 01:03 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;684123]I wanted to change pace a little with all the McNabb talk and look at the second string QB position. Grossman vs. Brennan... sure it could be said that Colt might not even make it on the roster, in this scenario lets say he does. How can he leapfrog Grossman? I know if I was Colt I would be sitting in Kyle's hip pocket and practicing everyday like it's my last.

I know nothing about Colt's work ethic or film study skills, but with Campbell on his way out the door this is the best time for Brennan to step it up. I want to hear from the fans that know this kid really and can explain it to me if he has what it takes to make a difference as the back up for the redskins.[/quote]

Sure, it's possible. He basically has to be the backup or be gone. I really don't think he'll be the #3 because I'm not convinced that Shanahan and son see him as the longterm QB they want to develop. Could be wrong though

Schneed10 04-06-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
No. There is no chance. Brennan will be out of football very soon.

tryfuhl 04-06-2010 01:17 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Schneed10;684226]No. There is no chance. Brennan will be out of football very soon.[/quote]
if he's out of the NFL (doubt it) he can probably find something in the UFL

diehardskin2982 04-06-2010 01:19 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
I have to disagree with most of you guys. Sure we may draft a QB but, it might not be this season. There is a good chance Colt will make into the season at the 2 or 3 spot.

tootergray34 04-06-2010 01:19 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
no way we waste a pick on a QB right now...way too many other important needs...CB probably stays on the Roster...but it's silly at thsi point to think he'll ever be a contributing factor to the redskins success.

Schneed10 04-06-2010 01:21 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;684233]I have to disagree with most of you guys. Sure we may draft a QB but, it might not be this season. There is a good chance Colt will make into the season at the 2 or 3 spot.[/quote]

You overestimate Brennan's abilities, which is probably a by-product of believing that the Zorn/Cerrato pairing made for good talent evaluations.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-06-2010 01:23 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=tryfuhl;684208]umm Campbell will likely be moved.. if not Brennan probably won't make it

if he is, Brennan has a good shot [B]unless we draft somebody[/B]

there's no need to trim down the number of QBs yet[/quote]

what on earth makes you think we won't draft a QB? The reality is that you and I have got as much a chance at being the #3 QB on the team as Brennan does.

diehardskin2982 04-06-2010 01:30 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Schneed10;684238]You overestimate Brennan's abilities, which is probably a by-product of believing that the Zorn/Cerrato pairing made for good talent evaluations.[/quote]

Truth be told NOONE knows how good CB is because he hasn't played in any serious games since college. He is young enough to still learn. Plus it may be cheaper to keep him and pay some other kid.

Slingin Sammy 33 04-06-2010 01:33 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
Timmy Cha....ooops Brennan won't beat out Bartel, he's gone.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-06-2010 01:34 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
how the hell would brennan be cheaper? and considering we'd be paying brennan and some late round rookie peanuts - in an uncapped year at that - why the hell would it matter? what in this entire offseason has made you think wed care at all about how much we pay a 3rd string quarterack?

you're stepping further and further away from sanity with every post. at some point, you have to admit that either 1) you've been smoking crack or 2) you're not the real dh2982 and are an ES mod who hacked into his account?

Monkeydad 04-06-2010 01:37 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=tryfuhl;684231]if he's out of the NFL (doubt it) he can probably find something in the UFL[/quote]
The Arena league is coming back.


POSSIBLE:

1. McNabb
2. Campbell (for a year)
3. Grossman

diehardskin2982 04-06-2010 01:38 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
Another opinion:

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/374337-what-the-donovan-mcnabb-trade-means-for-colt-brennan?utm_campaign=buzztap&utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter]What The Donovan McNabb Trade Means For Colt Brennan | Bleacher Report[/url]

over the mountain 04-06-2010 01:42 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
could colt beat out rex for the no 2 spot? i suppose so but with kyle and shanny bringing him in i think that is an indication they have him pegged as our no 2 qb.

could colt win our 3rd string qb spot? i dont see why not. shanny and allen may pick a late round qb to develop which would give the new guy a leg up on colt or they could not draft late round qb and colt would have a legit shot in competition btw him, bartel and probably some other undrafted rookie qbs, etc.

if shanny and allen draft a qb, it doesnt look too good for the colt fans.

i dont think it is a given that we draft a late round qb this year. we could bring in an undrafted qb who i dont think will have the same buffer as a qb shanny and allen actually spend a draft pick on.

tootergray34 04-06-2010 01:45 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;684257]Timmy Cha....ooops Brennan won't beat out Bartel, he's gone.[/quote]


That is so funny. Almost as funny as this love affair people have with Colt Brennan

jdc65 04-06-2010 01:49 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
I hope they don't waste a pick on a QB this year. They have a serious lack of picks to begin with and so many holes to plug. Plus most every mid-rd QB is a back-up at best if not out of the league in 3 years. Hopefully McNabb is here for 4 years, which gives them a couple of years to wait until they draft a QB. The team is in win-now mode, use every available pick and trade option to immediately upgrade the roster for a serious championship push

Slingin Sammy 33 04-06-2010 01:50 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=tootergray34;684277]That is so funny. Almost as funny as this love affair people have with Colt Brennan[/quote]I've never gotten it, I'll be glad when he's gone and we can retire the PJ avatars. LOL

44ever 04-06-2010 01:51 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
well it would be a shame if Colt didn't get a chance. Especially the way he came out preseason. Thanks to FO wasting there time with JC we may never know what CB could have been for us.

2nd string is going to be very important because the chances of DM going 16 games is Very Doubtful. So we are still looking at a potential QB crisis at some point.

Everyones starting to get excited about DM but were not out of the woods yet. They better get this right.

CRedskinsRule 04-06-2010 01:52 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;684285]I've never gotten it, I'll be glad when he's gone and we can retire the PJ avatars. LOL[/quote]

Well, really, the ONLY question on my mind is whether PJ15 will go into the Hall of Fame as a Redskin. Seriously, very important!

SirClintonPortis 04-06-2010 01:57 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Schneed10;684238]You overestimate Brennan's abilities, which is probably a by-product of believing that the Zorn/Cerrato pairing made for good talent evaluations.[/quote]

Gameplanning and de-prioritizing OLmen are different from talent-evaulating skill. Brennan's overhypedness is all because of his first preseason.

Slingin Sammy 33 04-06-2010 02:01 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=44ever;684287]well it would be a shame if Colt didn't get a chance. Especially the way he came out preseason. Thanks to FO wasting there time with JC we may never know what CB could have been for us.

2nd string is going to be very important because the chances of DM going 16 games is Very Doubtful. So we are still looking at a potential QB crisis at some point.

Everyones starting to get excited about DM but were not out of the woods yet. They better get this right.[/quote]Grossman knows the K. Shanahan offense and has been a SB QB. Far better back-up situation than we've had in say....5 years.

And Brennan had his shot, he got outplayed by Chase Daniel last pre-season.

MTK 04-06-2010 02:02 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
Man, the Cult just won't give up.

:doh:

Slingin Sammy 33 04-06-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;684291]Well, really, the ONLY question on my mind is whether PJ15 will go into the Hall of Fame as a Redskin. Seriously, very important![/quote]LOL. I hope PJ15 never even holds a clipboard for us.....but you never know with that COOOOOL visor and spandex in the summer he may just make it.

44ever 04-06-2010 02:10 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;684299]Grossman knows the K. Shanahan offense and has been a SB QB. Far better back-up situation than we've had in say....5 years.

And Brennan had his shot, he got outplayed by Chase Daniel last pre-season.[/quote]

I agree with your first statement.

44ever 04-06-2010 02:13 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Mattyk;684300]Man, the Cult just won't give up.

:doh:[/quote]

I can understand the cult. Its the, (lets stick with JC crew) I never understood. (Matty) ;)

SolidSnake84 04-06-2010 02:13 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
Brennan was outplayed, but i feel that that was because of his well documented hip and hamstring injury....

tryfuhl 04-06-2010 02:16 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;684285]I've never gotten it, I'll be glad when he's gone and we can retire the PJ avatars. LOL[/quote]
psht we still have Ramsey and others.. even Tupa!

granted they all played in regular season games

Dirtbag59 04-06-2010 02:19 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
I think he will be given a fair shot to make the roster. #2 and 3 QB will be spots where Shanahans emphasis on competition and keeping the best player will be in full effect. However at this point my moneys on Grossman.

mlmpetert 04-06-2010 02:19 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I honestly would be surprised if Brennan gets cut. There are just way too many other needs to pick a QB before the 6th, unless there was a guy they were just in love with that somehow slipped from a third round prospect to the 5th or later. And since you got a good chance of putting most picks after the 6th on the practice squad without losing them to another team, so a late round "project" pick or UDFA would likely go there. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I think there is a chance Brennan gets traded if the Shannys dont think he will ever be a starter for our team, but only if someone is willing to give us something which i dont think is too likely.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]I also dont think Brennan has a chance to overstep Rex unless McNabb goes down and Rex comes in and sucks it up. I dont think there is ever a big line between the 2nd and 3rd qb. Its just which one do you pay more, was once a starter ealier in his career, or may be marginally better is the 2nd. And the 3rd is the one that needs to be ready incase the 2nd turns out to suck it up or get hurt because hes not used to doing shit. [/COLOR][/FONT]

Plus since McNabb is our QB for a few more years there is no immenant need to draft a 2nd, 3rd or 4th round QB right now, next year will be just as good. Although we are already missing out 3rd or 4th next year....

joethiesmanfan 04-06-2010 02:26 PM

Re: Can Colt Brennan beat Rex Grossman for number 2 spot
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;684176]Shanahan is going to want to draft his own project QB. I'm certain we'll acquire more picks before the draft, but if we just go through the draft with the picks we have, we'll probably spend our 4th or 5th round pick on a QB. If we acquire more picks, I think its possible we select one earlier.[/quote]

Just tell your cousin Sage to submit his resume.


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