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jdc65 04-07-2010 12:32 PM

Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
In my opinion, it is in Campbell's best long-term interest to stay with Washington. I cannot see any team giving him a starting job, unless only as a caretaker for a rookie draft-pick. Every team that needs a QB will address that this year in the draft, and that is who they will commit to.

Staying here as a back-up and learning the system and scheme that Shanahan runs will help him out more than getting 'lost' in a place like Oakland, Buffalo, or St.Louis. Shanahan will run a complex offensive scheme that will improve Jason's understanding of the game, reading defenses, and decision making ability.

Playing behind McNabb will teach Campbell valuable leadership skills and quarterback responsibilities that he won't likely get anywhere else. McNabb also misses games and JC will be a contributor in a successful offense.

The other players already like Campbell, but him staying will build a higher level of respect from them and the coaching staff.
This team is going to win, IMO, and being a contributing back-up on a winning team looks good on the resume, especially if a Hall-of-Fame coach gives you solid props.

Jason is still relatively young, and when McNabb retires in a few years, Campbell will be ready to assume the leadership role while he is healthy, and only 31-32 years of age. Otherwise JC could be lost as a permanent back-up on a different teams for the rest of his career.

I understand he wants starter's money, and if he can get it; he should.
However, I do not see any team giving him a starting QB contract or making any long commitment in him.
In my opinion, Campbell should stay here as a back-up, and make the best of the current situation. I believe it is the right thing to do for his career.

Beemnseven 04-07-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
It's not up to Jason to decide if he wants stay here.

celts32 04-07-2010 12:34 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Ships sunk rock.

Longtimefan 04-07-2010 12:40 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=Beemnseven;685084]It's not up to Jason to decide if he wants stay here.[/quote]

I don't know what else is left to say about Jason.

johno 04-07-2010 12:40 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Are you kidding me? It's in Campbell's best interest to sit behind McNabb until he is in his early 30's?

It's not in Campbell's best interest to stay here. He wants to be a starter, and no longer wants to be in Washington. He is talented enough to start for someone else aka Oakland, Buffalo, or St. Louis. Additionally, Shanahan said that he would work with Campbell to find him a starting position else where.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-07-2010 12:43 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
What is a Jason Campbell?

Pocket$ $traight 04-07-2010 12:44 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=Beemnseven;685084]It's not up to Jason to decide if he wants stay here.[/quote]

Exactly what I was thinking. I have to think that if a third is offered, see you later JC.

jdc65 04-07-2010 12:47 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=Beemnseven;685084]It's not up to Jason to decide if he wants stay here.[/quote]

From what I've read, Mike S. says he wants Campbell here, but will let him go look for a starter's job. The tender offer is still on the table. I don't think they will get more than a 4th round pick for Campbell, and I think Shanahan would rather have a solid back-up to McNabb than a 4th round pick.

Trample the Elderly 04-07-2010 12:48 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
There's nothing here for him now. I wouldn't stay.

Beemnseven 04-07-2010 12:51 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=jdc65;685101][B]From what I've read, Mike S. says he wants Campbell here,[/B] but will let him go look for a starter's job. The tender offer is still on the table. I don't think they will get more than a 4th round pick for Campbell, and I think Shanahan would rather have a solid back-up to McNabb than a 4th round pick.[/quote]

Is that true? Shanahan actually said that?

Seems like the writing is on the wall. McNabb is unquestioned starter, and they've already signed Grossman as the backup; so it looks like they don't want to have to teach JC the new playbook to compete for the #2 position with Rex.

If you can find a quote from Shanahan on this, I'd love to see it.

jdc65 04-07-2010 12:54 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=johno;685094]Are you kidding me? It's in Campbell's best interest to sit behind McNabb until he is in his early 30's?

It's not in Campbell's best interest to stay here. He wants to be a starter, and no longer wants to be in Washington. He is talented enough to start for someone else aka Oakland, Buffalo, or St. Louis. Additionally, Shanahan said that he would work with Campbell to find him a starting position else where.[/quote]

If St.Louis and Buffalo draft Bradfrod and Claussen as expected, how long would Campbell start? 6 games, maybe 10? Then be a forever back-up.
Oakland is a mess, and going there is a disaster in the making. Their offense is worse than ours, and their coaching is abominable. They will also probably draft a QB early, and look to start him sooner rather than later.

DBUCHANON101 04-07-2010 01:04 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Shanny told him to seek a trade and stay away. pretty much cut and dry that he doesnt want him around. I believe that Shanny and Co must have seen something on tape to show them that JC isnt a guy that they can work with.

jdc65 04-07-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
I believe that Campbell told Shanahan that he wants to look on his own for an opportunity elsewhere, and he would rather stay away from voluntary workouts until he figures out his next move. Clearly Shanahan would trade him for a quality pick, but that seems unlikely to me. I don't consider a 4th a quality pick myself, but we'll see.
I think Campbell is the best back-up the team can get, and will keep him pending a 'good' offer.

SmootSmack 04-07-2010 01:18 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=jdc65;685082]In my opinion, it is in Campbell's best long-term interest to stay with Washington. I cannot see any team giving him a starting job, unless only as a caretaker for a rookie draft-pick. Every team that needs a QB will address that this year in the draft, and that is who they will commit to.[/quote]

So let's say the Bills draft Dan Lefevour, for argumen't sake, and trade for Jason Campbell. Campbell starts one year in Buffalo puts up strong numbers, in 2011 Favre retires, Campbell's a free agent and Bam! he's starting on a playoff team in Minnesota. Better than toiling as a backup here I'd think

[quote]Staying here as a back-up and learning the system and scheme that Shanahan runs will help him out more than getting 'lost' in a place like Oakland, Buffalo, or St.Louis. Shanahan will run a complex offensive scheme that will improve Jason's understanding of the game, reading defenses, and decision making ability.[/quote]

He's well past the point of needing to sit on the bench to learn system and scheme. If he's not at this point, he doesn't belong in the league

[quote]Playing behind McNabb will teach Campbell valuable leadership skills and quarterback responsibilities that he won't likely get anywhere else. McNabb also misses games and JC will be a contributor in a successful offense.[/quote]

Starting somewhere would be more beneficial to developing leadership skills

[quote]The other players already like Campbell, but him staying will build a higher level of respect from them and the coaching staff.
This team is going to win, IMO, and being a contributing back-up on a winning team looks good on the resume, especially if a Hall-of-Fame coach gives you solid props.[/quote]

Players don't generally respect guys who would prefer to be a back-up than a starter

[quote]Jason is still relatively young, and when McNabb retires in a few years, Campbell will be ready to assume the leadership role while he is healthy, and only 31-32 years of age. Otherwise JC could be lost as a permanent back-up on a different teams for the rest of his career.

I understand he wants starter's money, and if he can get it; he should.
However, I do not see any team giving him a starting QB contract or making any long commitment in him.
In my opinion, Campbell should stay here as a back-up, and make the best of the current situation. I believe it is the right thing to do for his career.[/quote]

I can't see any reason for Campbell to want to stay here

tryfuhl 04-07-2010 01:24 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Shanahan said that he granted Jason/his agent permission to seek a starting job elsewhere. If after the draft he hadn't found it, then he'll be back here with us.

It makes sense for JC not to be there right now as it would be a huge distraction.

Lotus 04-07-2010 01:27 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
I think JC could really benefit from a change of scenery. I will miss him but it is merciful and compassionate to let him seek his fortunes elsewhere.

right21arm 04-07-2010 08:01 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
jason campbell should stay in DC because there's plenty of toilets that need to be cleaned.

firstdown 04-07-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
JC should stay in DC because no body wants him other then that there is not a good reason. Also the reason why they don't let him workout is because if he gets injured we have to pay him $.

44ever 04-07-2010 08:16 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=jdc65;685082]In my opinion, it is in Campbell's best long-term interest to stay with Washington. I cannot see any team giving him a starting job, unless only as a caretaker for a rookie draft-pick. Every team that needs a QB will address that this year in the draft, and that is who they will commit to.

Staying here as a back-up and learning the system and scheme that Shanahan runs will help him out more than getting 'lost' in a place like Oakland, Buffalo, or St.Louis. Shanahan will run a complex offensive scheme that will improve Jason's understanding of the game, reading defenses, and decision making ability.

Playing behind McNabb will teach Campbell valuable leadership skills and quarterback responsibilities that he won't likely get anywhere else. McNabb also misses games and JC will be a contributor in a successful offense.

The other players already like Campbell, but him staying will build a higher level of respect from them and the coaching staff.
This team is going to win, IMO, and being a contributing back-up on a winning team looks good on the resume, especially if a Hall-of-Fame coach gives you solid props.

Jason is still relatively young, and when McNabb retires in a few years, Campbell will be ready to assume the leadership role while he is healthy, and only 31-32 years of age. Otherwise JC could be lost as a permanent back-up on a different teams for the rest of his career.

I understand he wants starter's money, and if he can get it; he should.
However, I do not see any team giving him a starting QB contract or making any long commitment in him.
In my opinion, Campbell should stay here as a back-up, and make the best of the current situation. I believe it is the right thing to do for his career.[/quote]
:nono::bdh::blah::bdh::blah::bdh::nono: E NUUUUFFFF!!! Sorry,

Ruhskins 04-07-2010 08:21 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=44ever;685415]:nono::bdh::blah::bdh::blah::bdh::nono: E NUUUUFFFF!!! Sorry,[/quote]

Agreed, thread fail. (and I actually liked Campbell)

Mechanix544 04-07-2010 08:38 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=right21arm;685404]jason campbell should stay in DC because there's plenty of toilets that need to be cleaned.[/quote]

mWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Good stuff!

NYCskinfan82 04-07-2010 08:41 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=right21arm;685404]jason campbell should stay in DC because there's plenty of toilets that need to be cleaned.[/quote]

Yeah but then you'd be out of a job. JC supporter you didn't need to say that.

jdc65 04-07-2010 08:46 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;685130]So let's say the Bills draft Dan Lefevour, for argumen't sake, and trade for Jason Campbell. Campbell starts one year in Buffalo puts up strong numbers, in 2011 Favre retires, Campbell's a free agent and Bam! he's starting on a playoff team in Minnesota. Better than toiling as a backup here I'd think

Can't imagine Buffalo passing on Claussen at 9, or McCoy in the 2nd.
If Jason can find a starter's job anywhere, other than half a season caretaker, he should take it.

He's well past the point of needing to sit on the bench to learn system and scheme. If he's not at this point, he doesn't belong in the league



Starting somewhere would be more beneficial to developing leadership skills

I agree, but I don't think there is a starter's spot for him now.

Players don't generally respect guys who would prefer to be a back-up than a starter



I can't see any reason for Campbell to want to stay here[/QU

I don't see him starting anywhere this year except Buffalo or St.Louis, and only as a caretaker until Bradford/Claussen take over in week 8 or so.

jdc65 04-07-2010 08:54 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=tryfuhl;685136]Shanahan said that he granted Jason/his agent permission to seek a starting job elsewhere. If after the draft he hadn't found it, then he'll be back here with us.

It makes sense for JC not to be there right now as it would be a huge distraction.[/quote]

Good point and that makes sense. I don't think he will find a starting role, but I also think he will ask to be released or traded for next to nothing so he can try to latch on somewhere and compete for a job. I think Shanahan would placate him if Campbell requests it.

BlindReckoning 04-07-2010 09:03 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=44ever;685415]:nono::bdh::blah::bdh::blah::bdh::nono: E NUUUUFFFF!!! Sorry,[/quote]


And people complain about Brennan supporters. I think we can officially say Brennan has more chance of starting for the Skins now than Campbell. The only thing I'm looking for with Campbell is not (where is he going?) (will he be starting?)(what is he saying?). The only thing I want to know is what we are getting for him. I imagine a 4th or later and maybe a late round pick next year. The Skins have already given him enuff. It's time he gave them something...like a extra draft pic.

jdc65 04-07-2010 09:11 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
I know Campbell won't start over McNabb, but I think he is the best back-up we could get, better than Rex 'interception' Grossman, IMO. McNabb can also be expected to miss some time, and having Campbell on hand would be a positive thing. I don't think any team will offer anything of value to necessitate a trade of JC. I just think it would be beneficial for all concerned to have Campbell here for awhile. If Campbell can start elsewhere, he should go, and if Washington can get a 3rd for him, they should take it. Otherwise I hope he stays.

Mechanix544 04-07-2010 09:12 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
ya, just sucks that we are gonna get a 4th or 3rd for the 1st rounder we wasted on him.

DBUCHANON101 04-07-2010 09:16 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=Mechanix544;685453]ya, just sucks that we are gonna get a 4th or 3rd for the 1st rounder we wasted on him.[/quote]

Didnt Gibbs give up a 2nd to move back into the 1st to get him? i could be wrong

Pocket$ $traight 04-07-2010 09:18 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=Mechanix544;685453]ya, just sucks that we are gonna get a 4th or 3rd for the 1st rounder we wasted on him.[/quote]

We used more than a first rounder for him. A third in 05 and a first and 4th in '06. Another brilliant personnel move by Gibbs...

Raise your hand if you still want to move up to pick Bradford.

internetcareer 04-07-2010 09:24 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Jason Campbell is already gone. If you haven't GOTTEN that yet, despite all the pleasantries coming out of Redskins Park....just take a look at the wall and read it.

The writing is on the wall my friends. He will be TRADED before the draft. It's OVER.

The Goat 04-07-2010 09:38 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
I think reality day is coming for Jason. He thinks he's a starter in the league. From what I can tell nobody else does. Either he learns the "backup" role or I could see him absent from the NFL just a year from now.

...maybe I'm all wrong on this?

Pocket$ $traight 04-07-2010 09:42 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=The Goat;685471]I think reality day is coming for Jason. He thinks he's a starter in the league. From what I can tell nobody else does. Either he learns the "backup" role or I could see him absent from the NFL just a year from now.

...maybe I'm all wrong on this?[/quote]

There is a lot of truth in your post. I talked to a Carolina fan today, he didn't think there was any way Campbell beats out Moore. There just are not that many open spots out there. He may need an injury (which there is a good chance of) before he has a legitimate opportunity.

Audi 04-07-2010 10:30 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Jason Campbell needs to go somewhere else and prove he's a starter. That's what's best for him.

tryfuhl 04-07-2010 11:59 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=jdc65;685441]Good point and that makes sense. I don't think he will find a starting role, but I also think he will ask to be released or traded for next to nothing so he can try to latch on somewhere and compete for a job. I think Shanahan would placate him if Campbell requests it.[/quote]
Shanahan isn't going to cut him I don't think. He'll need to approve of the value.

44ever 04-10-2010 11:33 AM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/04/06/10/Shanahan-Campbell-Could-Stay-With-Redski/landing_redskins.html?blockID=211110&feedID=272]Shanahan: Campbell Could Stay With Redskins[/url]
MS also makes a great argument as to why DM is not to old to win a SB even if its not immediate. For those that have not seen it.
Watch the video.

Beemnseven 04-10-2010 11:40 AM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=44ever;686603][url=http://www.csnwashington.com/04/06/10/Shanahan-Campbell-Could-Stay-With-Redski/landing_redskins.html?blockID=211110&feedID=272]Shanahan: Campbell Could Stay With Redskins[/url]
MS also makes a great argument as to why DM is not to old to win a SB even if its not immediate. For those that have not seen it.
Watch the video.[/quote]

yep, saw the vid. I still think Shanahan is saying what he has to say. He isn't going to come out and say "screw Jason Campbell, we don't want him."

That would destroy any trade possibilities, and we couldn't get a 7th round pick for him at that point. Regardless of the official position statements, I still say JC is gone, it's only a matter of when and for how much.

44ever 04-10-2010 11:42 AM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
[quote=Beemnseven;686605]yep, saw the vid. I still think Shanahan is saying what he has to say. He isn't going to come out and say "screw Jason Campbell, we don't want him."

[B]That would destroy any trade possibilities, and we couldn't get a 7th round pick for him at that point.[/B] Regardless of the official position statements, I still say JC is gone, it's only a matter of when and for how much.[/quote]

Yup, great point!

RememberRFK 04-10-2010 11:51 AM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
JC does not want to be a backup like any other QB. He will end up in Carolina (imo). Just like Donovan needs some time to develop in the right offensive system, so will JC. I believe JC's best days are ahead of him. Like you, I have followed him since he came out of Auburn and I think he is a stand up human being that is also a great QB. I don't think that our past offense system geled at all. O-line doing one thing, backs another, TE's another, WR's another... it was all mixed up with no direction whatsoever. If he goes to a team with any resemblence of a coordinated effort, watch out. Good luck Jason Campbell. I will root for you!

diehard 04-10-2010 11:57 AM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Yeah. PHI will definititely have strong interests in aquiring Campbell after Jay Feeley, I mean, Kevin Kolb stinks up the joint...

RememberRFK 04-10-2010 12:28 PM

Re: Why Jason Campbell should stay in DC.
 
Philly trades Vic and then aquires JC. What do you think?


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