A QB change is coming
 

Call it a hunch of mine, but I think a change could be coming very soon.

Maybe this week.

Careful there Mattyk72...many people here will read that you have some kind of inside info on that.

I hope your right......

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Call it a hunch of mine, but I think a change could be coming very soon.

Maybe this week.[/QUOTE]


Damn Matty, I thought you heard something or had an article attached. I almost had an accident here at work man.

But I feel ya. If 3 pass attempts in the 2nd half doesn't tell ya anything then I don't what else would. We'll see......

Do we have a praying smilie? :)

I can't remember who brought it up. I think it was SUNRA, but if a change is coming it has to be now otherwise it probably won't be until early December at the earliest

No inside info here ;) , but there is a bit of a buzz on the internet today, and judging by some of the things Gibbs said in his postgame press conference yesterday I'm just getting the feeling a change could be coming.

The defense has been outstanding all season and now the special teams is stepping up, with a 3-5 record the team is still in it and could make a strong second half of the season push, but the offense needs a serious kick in the ass.

Brunell isn't getting any better, I think now is the time to roll the dice and see what Ramsey can do.

I can't see it happening. The way Gibbs ahs stuck by Brunell this whole time and finally we win a game and he's going to pull the plug now? Doesn't seem like a Gibbs move. Seems like it would upset the morale of the team to abandon Brunell after a win. One theory I have held lurking in my mind was that Gibbs kept thinking Brunell was gonna get injured finally and he could drop ramsey in without worrying about team morale. Gibbs doesn't come across as a guy with such nefarious and devious ways but maybe his desire to keep the team in the fold without totaly blowing the whole situation up made him hope he didn't have to do anything controversial. Sounds crazier the more I think about it...

no

I was thinking the same thing in an earlier post in another thread, listening to his press confrence he didn't have a lot of excuses for Brunell this time around, I think he's finally coming to the conclusion that Brunell is the problem.




[QUOTE]So long as Brunell is QB we will go no where, who one today's game? Defense and special team's, Portis had to throw our only TD pass which was set up by Thrashes return, once in a while you get a win like this but it aint happening every week especially when we play playoff caliber team's, if the switch isn't made we will be singing the blues in the upcoming week's about the one we let get away, I do think though Gibb's is starting to warm up to the idea of a QB change, almost 150yds. rushing by Portis, no sack's, decent protection, and Portis show's that reciever's are open you just have to throw it properly, I think Gibb's will be looking long and hard this week at narrowing down our problem's to Brunell, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Ramsey is taking half the snap's this week and probably will see action in the second half of the Bengal game.[/QUOTE]

the skins won, but brunell lost IMO

the change is prolly what the players want and many of the coaches. they know its gonna be very very hard to get wins with under 100 yards passing on numerous occations throughout the season. Boy itd be nice to see a WR hit in stride on any pattern sometime this season.

On the comcast post game 1 commentator made a very good point, you don't change a QB who play's well and loses, and you don't keep a QB who play's bad but win's. Word's of wisdom to live bye. :cheeky-sm

IMO we absolutly dominated this game. Our running game was as strong as we have ahd in years. Our recievers were open. Our special teams were actually special. Our protection was decent(although Brunell did get roughed up a little in the first half). Our defense just decimated the Lions and we still almost lost. At some point when everything adds up to win and we still lose you have to look at what one thing is not HELPING you win. It is obvious to me finally that Brunell needs to sit. I have held out on this decision for weeks as everyone else bitched and moaned about him. I kept thinking "well gibbs is the man and he knows better than any of us" but that fact that we won this weekend actually proved to me that he is the problem since it is obvious this team hah been doing things capable of winning. I fully expect us to suck once Ramsey gets in there But I think there is at least a chnace that things get better and we end up 8-8 or 9-7. I am utterly convinced that Brunell in there we can't win more than 2 or 3 more games.

what brought doug williams in during that superbowl season?

I agree with not benching Brunell. Gibbs will probably use this win to motivate his starting QB & hopefully kick this offense in the ass!!

If the Skins lose the next 2 out of 3, I could definitely see Ramsey coming off the bench.

:dallas:

[QUOTE=FRPLG] Seems like it would upset the morale of the team to abandon Brunell after a win. One theory I have held lurking in my mind was that Gibbs kept thinking Brunell was gonna get injured finally and he could drop ramsey in without worrying about team morale.[/QUOTE]

I doubt team morale would be damaged by making a change at QB, regardless of the outcome of the last game. 58 yards is unacceptable. The players know that. I think it would help morale to know that the passing game has a fighting chance with Ramsey.

Drops aside, Brunell still had a horrid game. Even with the legitimate drops (Gardner and Betts on the sideline, Bly knocked the ball away from Coles across the middle) you can only tack on about 30 yards. The fact that Gibbs only threw the ball 3 times in the 2nd half is an obvious indictment of the QB position.

[FONT=Georgia]I agree that a change maybe coming, but lets remember what we were just saying as early as 2 years ago when the ballcoach was playing musical chairs with the qbs. We were wondering why so much switching. I am giving Coac Gibbs the benefit of the doubt. He is doing it his way. We didn't quesiton him 15 years ago, and I don't feel the need to do it now. He is showing that he is sticking with "his" guys. Maybe even to a fault, I remember some Offensive Linemen sticking maybe a season or two too many. Stability is the way to success (assuming you have good [not great] players).

Having said that, I do feel that a change is in the wind. Brunnel;s performance this past weekend was absolutely terrible against a poor defense, completely inept. Even Coach Gibbs will have to note that during the film sessions. I don't see him playing against Phili and/or Pitt. Those teams are going to come after us, and we need someone with a rocket arm to make them pay for that.

At this point in the season we need a spark, even with Ramsay known for his turnover's, he still moved the team in NY extremely well. I think with the way our defense is playing, we could lose the turnover battle [not by 3 or more] and still win games.

I can not immagine Coach Gibbs allowing this to go on much longer, he is stubborn but not an idiot.[/FONT]

[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]what brought doug williams in during that superbowl season?[/QUOTE]jay schroder stunk up the metrodome,the skins got two tds behind,gibbs brought on williams and schroder was gone for jim lachey by october 1988.

ramsey has the stronger arm,a lot of those incompletes thrown by brunell would have had a better chance of completition if ramsey were qb.

I think we need Ramsey for Philly and Pittsburgh. We need to score at least 21 points to have a chance in either game. I have a question, when Ramsey threw his interceptions last year did any get returned for touchdowns? Throwing pics is bad but it's tolerable if you can get the ball in the endzone more than two times.

What I find amazing with Brunell is not only does he not get us into the endzone, he rarely gets us into field goal position. I would take 3,4 or 5 field goals and two touchdowns any day and I think that that could beat Philly but not to sure about Pittsburgh. The steelers are going to be the toughest test for the defense this year.

[quote]The way Gibbs ahs stuck by Brunell this whole time and finally we win a game and he's going to pull the plug now? Doesn't seem like a Gibbs move. Seems like it would upset the morale of the team to abandon Brunell after a win.[/quote]

unless brunell had ABSOLUTELY NO PART IN THAT WIN!!! 35% completion, 58 yards? come on... 4 of his 8 games here he's gone under 100 yards, including 2 performances against dreadful defenses...

Well we are on the subject of morale, what is it going to do to team morale if 52 guys know that, no matter how hard they play, no matter what happens, one guy isn't going to carry his share. A defense can only do so much, before you have to reward them with some offensive points.

[QUOTE=djnemo65]Well we are on the subject of morale, what is it going to do to team morale if 52 guys know that, no matter how hard they play, no matter what happens, one guy isn't going to carry his share. A defense can only do so much, before you have to reward them with some offensive points.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, we are 8 games into the season and the most points we have scored is 18! #*(@$&(#& 18!!!! Our offense in any given game hasent droven "the length of the feild" for a TD more than once. Its pitiful, it has to be set up by our defense, otherwise forget it. I've come to the fact that Brunell just isnt good anymore... I really dont get it... I'm not even trying to anymore. At least Gibbs didnt make excuses for him this week, maybe its a sign.

So much for my hunch, guess it was more wishful thinking

:embarrass

The Real Scoop
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Call it a hunch of mine, but I think a change could be coming very soon.

Maybe this week.[/QUOTE]

You guys are all wrong. Gibbs isn't going to bench Brunell. No WAY!!! You have to understand: Gibbs already has 3 Superbowl victories to his credit. Another Super Bowl win is nothing. Another invite to the HOF? Nah! The REAL challenge is to win another Super Bowl while your QB averages 8 yards per pass per game - not per half. Not even Lombardi did THAT! That's the stuff legends are made of.

Another Super Bowl win is nothing. Another invite to the HOF? Nah! The REAL challenge is to win another Super Bowl while your QB averages 8 yards per pass per game - not per half. Not even Lombardi did THAT! That's the stuff legends are made of.[/QUOTE]
:thumb: :iamwithst

Gibbs said that Brunell will start this week! :banghead:

of course brunell will start,Gibb's needs an intervention,please,please,brunell,pull your hamstring this week,I'm begging ya!!!

please make the change
 

I really doubt Ramsey could do worse then 58 yds passing in a game, why not take the chance, If anything, we are at the point now, 8 games into this thing, that I think change would boost morale, especially if we make the change after a win and super crappy performance from M. Bru! did't hurt the steelers this year, or the Skins in 87!

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I can't remember who brought it up. I think it was SUNRA, but if a change is coming it has to be now otherwise it probably won't be until early December at the earliest[/QUOTE]

Did you see Ramsey with his helmet on during most of the game? I thought he might come in after Brunell missed the short screen pass. It makes since to get him in there now. But if he does get a chance, man I'm gonna bit my lip on every play action pass because we don't need another Kurt Warner Jr. Ramsey has to get rid of the ball and antcipate the blitz and act appropiately. If he does it, we win.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]Did you see Ramsey with his helmet on during most of the game? I thought he might come in after Brunell missed the short screen pass. It makes since to get him in there now. But if he does get a chance, man I'm gonna bit my lip on every play action pass because we don't need another Kurt Warner Jr. Ramsey has to get rid of the ball and antcipate the blitz and act appropiately. If he does it, we win.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I noticed that too, it looked like he was itching to go at a moment's notice. But that was you right who said that they wouldn't throw him into the fire against Philly or Pitt?

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Yeah I noticed that too, it looked like he was itching to go at a moment's notice. But that was you right who said that they wouldn't throw him into the fire against Philly or Pitt?[/QUOTE]

Yup.

If you notice Smoot, there is very little mentioned on football shows about the Redskins having the 1# defense. There quick to mention Dallas last year, but now we are going to step it up a notch for the Bengals and the rest of the them. Chad Johnson had his way against Champ Bailey. Look for Springs and Smoot to shut them down on the passing game. Right now, I get pumped up watching the defense.

I actually prefer it when the Skins don't have the ball, they're more fun to watch then

Exactly. What I have noticed about Smoot and Springs is that they are some of the best open field tacklers in the league. They also play the ball as much as the receiver and that's why Smoot has led in INT's for the past three seasons. On third downs, I always call out his name in anticipation that the ball will be thrown in his vicinity. He's probowl bound.

I just read that Brunell will start sunday against the bengals. dammitttttt!!!!!!!!

Dear Patrick Ramsey,
I want to apologize for saying you are sorry I want to apologize for not believing you were the saviour of the Redskins. please please please unleash that monster arm and take these Redskins to dallas and bring home a victory.
Norman Einstein

[QUOTE=SUNRA]Did you see Ramsey with his helmet on during most of the game? I thought he might come in after Brunell missed the short screen pass. It makes since to get him in there now. But if he does get a chance, man I'm gonna bit my lip on every play action pass because we don't need another Kurt Warner Jr. Ramsey has to get rid of the ball and antcipate the blitz and act appropiately. If he does it, we win.[/QUOTE]
He usually wears his helmet on the sidelines, probably to hear the play calls

I don't see us winning more than a couple games w/ Brunell in there. I hope your hunch is right. Why wait til we are eliminated from the playoffs to bring Ramsey in? I hope it happens this week!! The players have to know that a change is needed, but they are sticking together and saying the right things.

Unless Brunell improves dramatically in the Cinci game, I have a feel that Ramsay could be the man for the following 2 games. Unfair as that maybe, putting Ramsay in with our two toughest opponents, I really believe he gives us our best chance to win those 2 games.

[QUOTE=lifetimeskin]Unless Brunell improves dramatically in the Cinci game, I have a feel that Ramsay could be the man for the following 2 games. Unfair as that maybe, putting Ramsay in with our two toughest opponents, I really believe he gives us our best chance to win those 2 games.[/QUOTE]


I agree. I hate to say put Ramsey in there for the Philly/Pitt games, because it really is unfair. But if we beat Cincinati, at 4-5 were very much in the hunt for the playoffs, because the NFC is weak right now.

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I agree. I hate to say put Ramsey in there for the Philly/Pitt games, because it really is unfair. But if we beat Cincinati, at 4-5 were very much in the hunt for the playoffs, because the NFC is weak right now.[/QUOTE]


Gman, unfortunately if we win Brunell will stay at QB barring injury. Gibbs won't make a QB change especially after a W.