What is the team's biggest need after the draft?
 

Its a simple question. Reviewing our roster, i am fairly satisfied with our starters and depth at QB, TE, RB, DL, OLB, and SS. The most obvious needs i see us having are FS, WR, and ILB, and OT (in that order). What do you guys think is our biggest need right now?

Are there any players available now, or who are expected to be cut at some point in the near future who you think we should pick up? Is there anyone you would trade for or any rookie you think would be worth picking up in the supplemental draft? Right now, i'd love for us to sign Flozell Adams and Darren Sharper. I wouldn't mind signing T.O., but i'd rather us pick up a WR who could play special teams. I have no idea how we should address ILB.

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The ONE biggest need? A starting quality tackle. We only have one starting tackle right now.

This need could be filled by Jammal Brown or Alex Barron.

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I still think we may have a problem at GUARD. Mike Williams I have high hopes for. But if they end up using Hicks at right tackle, and then Dockery or Williams gets hurt, the whole line becomes discombobulated. Because Hicks has to move and then Heyer takes over or Montgomery comes in to fill in for Dockery or whatever. In my opinion we have some great depth at guard. We just don't have any pro bowl starters, so the depth guys are starting.

One solution would have been pick up LT Flozell Adams, start Trent Williams at right tackle, and then we would have Hicks and Williams battle for the right guard spot.

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Yeah I have to agree with the above two posters -- OT and OG are the two biggest need. I have 0 confidence in Mike Williams and would really like to see the other tackle position solidified a little more. I was hoping that the team would make a move for Brown, maybe trade next year's third or something like that.

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Yeah, I agree with everybody here. I think we still need to improve the offensive line.

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The biggest need, this second, is running back. Wide receiver and offensive tackle are basically tied for second.

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We could sign 300 lb JaMarcus Russell to be nose tackle.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-source_jamarcus_russell_is_tipping_the_scales_at_300_pounds_html-2010426]Source: JaMarcus Russell is tipping the scales at 300 pounds - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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Offensive tackle for the right side is our biggest need. We could try to sign Flozell to hold the spot down for a season or two at the most. We could also look at Faneca and the Dolphins will move Smiley for next to nothing to help us at guard.

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[quote=GTripp0012;694983]The biggest need, this second, is running back. Wide receiver and offensive tackle are basically tied for second.[/quote]

you should be on comedy central. YOU are hilarious.

3 PRO BOWL running backs on this team and we need to go out and get a running back? That is sooooooooooo funny.

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[quote=internetcareer;694987]you should be on comedy central. YOU are hilarious.

3 PRO BOWL running backs on this team and we need to go out and get a running back? That is sooooooooooo funny.[/quote]

i think we do, they all HAD pro bowl years i would not say the are pro bowl caliber anymore.

we also need more work on the o line, but i also feel we need more lb depth

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I don't get how RB is a big need. I don't agree with the people who say all CP, LJ, and WP will all make the team, though. None of those guys play special teams and i cant see us keeping a 3rd RB who doesnt play teams.

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Would have loved to see Toby Gearhart (sp?) in Burgundy & Gold.

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[quote=internetcareer;694987]you should be on comedy central. YOU are hilarious.

3 PRO BOWL running backs on this team and we need to go out and get a running back? That is sooooooooooo funny.[/quote]Why stop at three when you can add Marshawn Lynch and Brian Westbrook? Then you can have five pro-bowl RBs.

Championship!

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I would say OT and FS. We also need a change of pace RB that can take it to the house...but I am hoping Alridge can become that.

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I would def have to say our biggest need is WR. Our O-line is not good, but in my mind we only have one HUGE hole on it and that is the RT position. Williams, Dock, Rabach are not really worrying too many people. I feel that between Hicks and Rinehart (and maybe williams) that position will be serviceable. But Heyer (and maybe williams) will be a problem on the right. One problem on the O-line is a problem, but is manageable with extra support (TE/RB help). 4/5 positions are not a big problem on our O-line, but our WR corps is in complete shambles. There should be at least 3 serviceable players when we only have 1 (Moss). And he is not dominant enough to make up for lack of play from the other receivers, he is serviceable, not good. While playing in all 16 games last season he ranked 29th in receiving and 69th in touchdowns. Any decent number one receiver should easily break 1,000 yards when playing all the games. More pathetic though is that neither Thomas or Kelly got 25 yards a game. Our WR corps is a joke. No gamebreaker, and possibly the worst depth in the league (yea I said it).

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This sounds crazy but T.O would actually help our offense next season. That way we could move moss to the slot, start Thomas and owens. Malcolm would get alot of reps also. I still don't know if Davis and cooley will both play great together. Can't wait for the season to start!!

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The Redskins did the one thing that many educated fans have been yearning for the past few years, fill needs. Artis Hicks was brought in to start at RT, many observers considered him the top back up lineman in the league.

The Oline now has depth at every position:
LT: T. Williams, Heyer
LG: Dockery, Lichtensteiger,Cook
C: Rabach, E.Williams
RG: M.Williams, Rinehart, Fanaika
RT: Hicks, Selvish

As well as other training camp fodder.
We needed young special teams guys we got a returner in Austin and special teamer in Riley.
Qb is good with McNabb, Grossman, Brennan, Bartel and reportedly Daryll Clark.

I feel our only needs as of now is a WR, possibly TO and Linebacker depth that can cover hopefully Thomas. As well as a coverage FS possiblty Sharper or Chris McAilister if he can convert easily.

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i would really like to see an upgrade at FS. WR corps will hopefully improve with a better quarterback, bolstered oline, and talented offensive coordinator. We could use a legit RT, too.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;695009]The Redskins did the one thing that many educated fans have been yearning for the past few years, fill needs. Artis Hicks was brought in to start at RT, [B]many observers considered him the top back up lineman in the league.[/B]

The Oline now has depth at every position:
LT: T. Williams, Heyer
LG: Dockery, Lichtensteiger,Cook
C: Rabach, E.Williams
RG: M.Williams, Rinehart, Fanaika
RT: Hicks, Selvish

As well as other training camp fodder.
We needed young special teams guys we got a returner in Austin and special teamer in Riley.
Qb is good with McNabb, Grossman, Brennan, Bartel and reportedly Daryll Clark.

I feel our only needs as of now is a WR, possibly TO and Linebacker depth that can cover hopefully Thomas. As well as a coverage FS possiblty Sharper or Chris McAilister if he can convert easily.[/quote]I have no idea who those people are.

I do think we're at least as deep on the line as we are strong.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;695009]The Redskins did the one thing that many educated fans have been yearning for the past few years, fill needs. Artis Hicks was brought in to start at RT, many observers considered him the top back up lineman in the league.

The Oline now has depth at every position:
LT: T. Williams, Heyer
LG: Dockery, Lichtensteiger,Cook
C: Rabach, E.Williams
RG: M.Williams, Rinehart, Fanaika
RT: Hicks, Selvish

As well as other training camp fodder.
We needed young special teams guys we got a returner in Austin and special teamer in Riley.
Qb is good with McNabb, Grossman, Brennan, Bartel and reportedly Daryll Clark.

I feel our only needs as of now is a WR, possibly TO and Linebacker depth that can cover hopefully Thomas. As well as a coverage FS possiblty Sharper or Chris McAilister if he can convert easily.[/quote]

Erik Cook is a Center also and has great technique according to his scouting report. He could end up being ahead of Edwin on the depth chart. There should be a 3-way competition for starting Center. I said SHOULD be...hopefully it's open.



By the way, who is Fanaika? If Alen Faneca, don't bet on him coming here. I'd bet 20 teams would want him at least and he's not the best fit for Shanahan's system.

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I'd say RT and then PK. I wouldn't mind if we signed Flozell to come in and play RT for a couple of years while Capers develops. I don't understand why this franchise continues to ignore the PK position. With as many close games as we've played over the past decade, a good to great PK is the difference between 1-2 games per year. Are we really comfortable with Graham Gano and Justin Medlock?

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^Paul Fanaika... as many have said Cook is too large to be at center. not true?

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If a 3-4 is the base, I think ILB is the most glaring potential weakness on this team. Fletcher & Rocky are both not ideal 3-4 ILBs. I don't know what to expect of them in that role. Both could be gone easily next year. We only have Blades and a rookie 4th rounder as depth.

O line is still a concern overall. RT is still a weak spot, but I feel better that they've got Hicks as #1 on the depth chart. Heyer might be really motivated to improve & get a contract, so RT might be decent as is.

I am always surprised that there's no love on here for Kareem Moore at FS. I thought he played well when given a chance. I wouldn't be surprised if he starts this year. I just don't see safety as a position of need compared to others.

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1. Until proven otherwise, OL is our top need. Williams is, hopefully, starting caliber on day one but we have only two established starting level O-Line guys - Rabach and Dockery. Everything else along the line is conjecture. Another solid and established starter (Fanaca, J. Brown) would at least ratchet down the speculative nature of next year's line. Until proven otherwise or until we aquire proven talent, our line is still our biggest question mark.

2. I almost agree with GTripp, our RB's are all guys past their prime - but I don't think this is the primary need.. I think in tandem, they can get the job done, but yes, these guys are all now stop gaps. Unlike the line, at least they have shown they can get it done. The league has a history of backs who have had mini-revivals in their later careers. Maybe lightning strikes.

3. Inside LB - for the 3-4 who do we have? Fletcher and who else? Blades? maybe. Not convinced he is an everydown LB. Granted, Fletch is key in more ways than just position, but if he goes down, our inside presence is pretty much shot.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;695024]^Paul Fanaika... as many have said Cook is too large to be at center. not true?[/quote]

He's probably BETTER off playing in the middle as he's not that mobile. All of his scouting reports applaud his "natural knee bending" so I think that takes care of his height.

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[quote=freddyg12;695025]If a 3-4 is the base, I think ILB is the most glaring potential weakness on this team. Fletcher & Rocky are both not ideal 3-4 ILBs. I don't know what to expect of them in that role. Both could be gone easily next year. We only have Blades and a rookie 4th rounder as depth.

O line is still a concern overall. RT is still a weak spot, but I feel better that they've got Hicks as #1 on the depth chart. Heyer might be really motivated to improve & get a contract, so RT might be decent as is.

[B]I am always surprised that there's no love on here for Kareem Moore at FS. I thought he played well when given a chance. I wouldn't be surprised if he starts this year. I just don't see safety as a position of need compared to others[/B].[/quote]

You seriously want Moore as our [B]STARTING[/B] FS? IMO FS hasn't been adressed since ST died and the FO has been skating by trying not to address the problem, hoping people won't notice. Kareem Moore has adequate range, average to good speed, average playmaker, all equaling a backup FS in this league. I'm hoping we sign Sharper as a stop gap until we can draft a good young FS. The RT spot is weak, so hopefully we can get a guy like Barron who might fit better in Zone Blocking.

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Adalius Thomas released by Patriots.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=5136454]Source: New England Patriots release linebacker Adalius Thomas - ESPN Boston[/url]

Any chance we trade a 30 yrs+ 4-3 DE (Carter) and pick up a 30 yrs + OLB that may fit our scheme better? His salary is around 5 mill.

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OT, Guard, ILB, RB, FS.

[B]Right Tackle [/B]- We need a starting caliber Right Tackle and a decent/young developmental back up. Did we pick him up this weekend in the draft or UDFA? Time will tell.

[B]Guard - [/B]We have to get younger at this position. Mike Williams should not be our starter or ideally should not be on our roster. Derek Dockery is not ideal speed wise for this scheme, he could stand to be replaced sooner rather than later.
[B]ILB -[/B] Fletch is getting up there in age and this rookie is still an unproven commodity. We need a starter and depth. Where will HB Blades play inside or outside backer?
[B]RB[/B] - We are old and injury prone. Are the young backups worthy of being on our team?
[B]FS - [/B] Will LaRon Landry bounce back from a terrible 2009? We need quality depth.

I think quality depth in general was a serious problem besides the obvious holes in our starting lineup.

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Also, I agree that FS is a big need that we haven't addressed the past 2 years. I'm in favor of signing Sharper.

RIP Taylor.


And I really like the Capers pick in Rd 7. Converted TE who with a year or two of coaching could become a really really great find for RT for the next 10 years

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[quote=franklinhimself;695050]Adalius Thomas released by Patriots.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=5136454]Source: New England Patriots release linebacker Adalius Thomas - ESPN Boston[/url]

Any chance we trade a 30 yrs+ 4-3 DE (Carter) and pick up a 30 yrs + OLB that may fit our scheme better? His salary is around 5 mill.[/quote]
He will actually probably come cheap, because NE is on the hook for 5mill guaranteed (with no offset clause!). I cant imagine him not going back to NYJ to be with Ryan and stick it to NE 2x's a year.

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[quote=franklinhimself;695052]Also, I agree that FS is a big need that we haven't addressed the past 2 years. I'm in favor of signing Sharper.

RIP Taylor.


And I really like the Capers pick in Rd 7. Converted TE who with a year or two of coaching could become a really really great find for RT for the next 10 years[/quote]

I agree on both points.

also feel we need a rb, (unless aldrige can fill the void for a speedster)
a wr ( to?)
and...i think we need a legitmate clipboard holder..i dunno if clark or colt can hang

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Big, I think you summed it up pretty much. I'm really wondering about LB though. The new guys is supposed to play ILB along side Fletcher. We still have Blades so I think we have enough at all the LB spots.

I'd have said FS, and WR. I'm not sure who they would use at FS unless they are going into the yr as is. Haslett has said he's impressed with Landry's speed. If they can teach him to stop biting on the fakes then we'll survive another yr. WR bothers me. I'm not drinking the cool ade like some of you others. I keep hearing how the 3rd yr is usually the break out yr. What if ours don't break out?

It seems like looking at some spots people are satisfied with the we are in "rebuild" mode and other spots they are "no we need to push for better talent in order to do better then 4-12 and trying to make the playoffs."

I just don't see how people can be content at WR yet spastic about OL. Both have their issues. One won't solve the other. As of right now I see;

Moss and Thomas as our WR's.

Kelly and Mitchell are unknowns. I'm actually thinking Kelly might be a scratch after this preseason if he doesn't get his act together.

Hagans and Williams were scratches last preseason and now we have Austin... Rookie.

I don't feel comfortable. I just get a feeling T.O. is gunna be here. Like it or not he's better then whatever we have now and the HC never said "T.O. was not going to be a Skin." He said "T.O. is not in our plans [B]right now[/B]." Which means maybe in May or June they sign a contract with him. There may already be an agreement that he will come on board, but to keep from having to show up now he's not signing his contract until later. I know some will think I'm wanting T.O., but what I'm wanting is a bona fide WR to help out Moss and Thomas. Marshall is gone. Who's left and who might be coming available soon?

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Been looking at FA linebackers. Career Titan Keith Bullock is still out there.
33 years old, but produced 108 tackles last year. Could provide ILB leadership in a part time role for another 2-3 years as a stop-gap. I'm in favor of devleoping our team's youth, but when we have a big position need, experience can't hurt.

If he's still a FA during training camp he could be a decent signing.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;694992]I don't get how RB is a big need. I don't agree with the people who say all CP, LJ, and WP will all make the team, though. None of those guys play special teams and i cant see us keeping a 3rd RB who doesnt play teams.[/quote]

We had 3 RB's last yr and none played special teams?

Oh, I meant contributed. My bad. ;)

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[quote=SBXVII;695060]Big, I think you summed it up pretty much. I'm really wondering about LB though. The new guys is supposed to play ILB along side Fletcher. We still have Blades so I think we have enough at all the LB spots.

I'd have said FS, and WR. I'm not sure who they would use at FS unless they are going into the yr as is. Haslett has said he's impressed with Landry's speed. If they can teach him to stop biting on the fakes then we'll survive another yr. WR bothers me. I'm not drinking the cool ade like some of you others. I keep hearing how the 3rd yr is usually the break out yr. What if ours don't break out?

It seems like looking at some spots people are satisfied with the we are in "rebuild" mode and other spots they are "no we need to push for better talent in order to do better then 4-12 and trying to make the playoffs."

I just don't see how people can be content at WR yet spastic about OL. Both have their issues. One won't solve the other. As of right now I see;

Moss and Thomas as our WR's.

Kelly and Mitchell are unknowns. [B]I'm actually thinking Kelly might be a scratch after this preseason if he doesn't get his act together.
[/B]
Hagans and Williams were scratches last preseason and now we have Austin... Rookie.

I don't feel comfortable. I just get a feeling T.O. is gunna be here. Like it or not he's better then whatever we have now and the HC never said "T.O. was not going to be a Skin." He said "T.O. is not in our plans [B]right now[/B]." Which means maybe in May or June they sign a contract with him. There may already be an agreement that he will come on board, but to keep from having to show up now he's not signing his contract until later. I know some will think I'm wanting T.O., but what I'm wanting is a bona fide WR to help out Moss and Thomas. Marshall is gone. Who's left and who might be coming available soon?[/quote]


Eh, I think Kelly will have a lot more production this year. Granted a lot more than nothing might only be 400-500 yards, but both MS and KS are huge upgrades in terms of offensive competency than the JZ staff. I believe a while back MS and Kelly sat down and discussed how'd they use Kelly's size and hands for middle of the field routes Andre Johnson would run down in Houston. I'm eager to see what Kelly can contribute in that role.

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[quote=doughtydoubter;695056]I agree on both points.

also feel we need a rb, ([B]unless aldrige can fill the void for a speedster)[/B]
[B]a wr ( to?)[/B]
and...i think we need a legitmate clipboard holder..i dunno if clark or colt can hang[/quote]

Well, Alridge is listed as a WR on the NFL.com roster. Perhaps thats our speed WR? :)

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We should have signed Tanner and Landolt to shore up O line depth. I agree with our newbie Skinster in that our WR corp as a whole is a joke. Austin at 175 isn't going to cut it as a returner or a real #5 WR either.

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[quote=SBXVII;695060]Big, I think you summed it up pretty much. I'm really wondering about LB though. The new guys is supposed to play ILB along side Fletcher. We still have Blades so I think we have enough at all the LB spots.

I'd have said FS, and WR. I'm not sure who they would use at FS unless they are going into the yr as is. Haslett has said he's impressed with Landry's speed. If they can teach him to stop biting on the fakes then we'll survive another yr. WR bothers me. I'm not drinking the cool ade like some of you others. I keep hearing how the 3rd yr is usually the break out yr. What if ours don't break out?

It seems like looking at some spots people are satisfied with the we are in "rebuild" mode and other spots they are "no we need to push for better talent in order to do better then 4-12 and trying to make the playoffs."

I just don't see how people can be content at WR yet spastic about OL. Both have their issues. One won't solve the other. As of right now I see;

Moss and Thomas as our WR's.

Kelly and Mitchell are unknowns. I'm actually thinking Kelly might be a scratch after this preseason if he doesn't get his act together.

Hagans and Williams were scratches last preseason and now we have Austin... Rookie.

I don't feel comfortable. I just get a feeling T.O. is gunna be here. Like it or not he's better then whatever we have now and the HC never said "T.O. was not going to be a Skin." He said "T.O. is not in our plans [B]right now[/B]." Which means maybe in May or June they sign a contract with him. There may already be an agreement that he will come on board, but to keep from having to show up now he's not signing his contract until later. I know some will think I'm wanting T.O., but what I'm wanting is a bona fide WR to help out Moss and Thomas. Marshall is gone. Who's left and who might be coming available soon?[/quote]

I agree with you. TO has been humbled being let go from the Boys and being stuck on a shitty Buffalo squad. He won't make any waves here. He is at the point where the money is tight and he wants a ring. We desperately need a go to WR to open up things for not only Donovan, but to give Santana some help. Getting another small Wr was dumb. Should have drafted a FS instead of Austin. I can easily see TO coming here, maybe via a Rocky trade.

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[quote=franklinhimself;695068]Eh, I think Kelly will have a lot more production this year. Granted a lot more than nothing might only be 400-500 yards, but both MS and KS are huge upgrades in terms of offensive competency than the JZ staff. I believe a while back MS and Kelly sat down and discussed how'd they use Kelly's size and hands for middle of the field routes Andre Johnson would run down in Houston. I'm eager to see what Kelly can contribute in that role.[/quote]

Yeah and with in the last month they had him tied into trade talks.

I agree we are far better off then JZ and Hixon, but part of the issue was his knees swelling during practice so he couldn't even see the field. He has to be on the field in order to get what the scheme is. Right now I have more faith in Thomas cause he's actually had 2yrs of playing time. Kelly technically is still in his Rookie yr since he has not seen very much playing time. About the only thing he's done is have 1 oe 2 nice catch's and bulked up.

I'm hoping they find a decent role for Mitchell. He looked awsome in some of his pictures from the recent camp. He bulked up and has decent muscle.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;695078]I agree with you. TO has been humbled being let go from the Boys and being stuck on a shitty Buffalo squad. He won't make any waves here. He is at the point where the money is tight and he wants a ring. We desperately need a go to WR to open up things for not only Donovan, but to give Santana some help. Getting another small Wr was dumb. Should have drafted a FS instead of Austin. I can easily see TO coming here, maybe via a Rocky trade.[/quote]

T.O. is a FA. All they have to do is sign him. They want to trade Rocky fine. Hopefully we pick up a FS in that trade.