Looks like NYG first round pick is having some health issues...
 

Day 2 of his first mini camp and he's spent 10 mins into it?????

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13331279/giants-top-pick-pierrepaul-battles-back-problem]Giants top pick Pierre-Paul battles back problem - NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/url]

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Good Screw the Giants!

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I feel bad for Pierre-Paul. Tough luck

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sounds fishy.

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A minor detail him and his agent failed to mention during the pre-draft interviews.

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Probably from the back flips he did at the combine. Check link:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=5063672]2010 NFL draft: South Florida defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul has quietly established himself as a first-round pick - ESPN[/url]

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He says the back problems go away when he's in football shape. If so, it's not that big of a deal.

Hopefully he'll bust for different reasons. :)

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I was kind of worried about this guy a few years down the road... but I do like that thier first round pick has some issues already!

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I'm still more worried about Brandon Graham then I am any other NFC East rookie. Bryant is just overkill in Dallas which will limit his effectiveness while Pierre-Paul is to inexperienced to make much of an impact right away especially on the Giants who are ridiculously deep at End with Tuck, Osi, Mathias, and now Pierre-Paul, which kind of makes you wonder even with the Osi situation why they would draft a DE with such a huge hole at MLB especially when you have one of the best running game Offensive Designers in Shanahan coming into your division. Graham on the other hand seems like a younger version of Hugh Douglas.

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Brandon Graham looks like he has serious moves, but in the end he's small. He won't hold up well over an entire game against the large LTs he has to face in the pros. Just run at him, by the 3rd quarter his quickness will be negated when pass rushing.

I thought that was a poor pick by Andy Reid. He's not suited for every-down play.

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[quote=Schneed10;697365]Brandon Graham looks like he has serious moves, but in the end he's small. He won't hold up well over an entire game against the large LTs he has to face in the pros. Just run at him, by the 3rd quarter his quickness will be negated when pass rushing.

I thought that was a poor pick by Andy Reid. He's not suited for every-down play.[/quote]

Agreed. He's a good situational pass rusher, but I seriously doubt he's worth what they gave up to move up for him at #13 overall. No wonder he looked so pumped when he got picked that high. Even he was surprised.

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people were hypin' up graham as a absolute BEAST, I hope not though.

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I was never high on this guy, and think he'll be a bust for many reasons:
He played only one season at USF
He had only 6.5 sacks this whole year
He benefited playing against the tackles from the Big East (Anthony Davis was the only good one)
He benefited from playing alongside George Selvie, who was an All American a few years ago
I never heard of this guys name until the draft, and thats questionable with my history of first round picks you've never heard about, and how they end up doing in the NFL

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[quote=CultBrennan59;697371]
He had only 6.5 sacks this whole year
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Keep in mind that this stat was achieved in only 7 games. I remember feeling the same way when I first heard the 6.5 sack number but after I heard that it was done in such a short amount of time it started to make a lot more sense. I mean if Michael Johnson the physical freak from Georgia Tech falls to the 3rd round with 9 sacks it would make little sense to see Pierre-Paul as a top 15 pick a year later considering the fact that both are physically in a class of their own.

[quote]NorthJersey.com: Giants take Jason Pierre-Paul of South Florida ...
Apr 23, 2010 ... South Florida's Jason Pierre-Paul runs a drill at the NFL football ... [B]started seven games for South Florida, but was in on 45 tackles with 6½ sacks [/B]....[/quote]

I guess in the end D-Lineman taken by the Giants should warrant at least some degree of worry.

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I agree...Giants always find some nasty run stoppers on their D Front. Knowing our luck he'll turn out to be like a Freak like Jevon Kearse

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[quote=skinsfaninok;697355]Good Screw the Giants![/quote]
now,now...........:nono:

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I don't know what it is, but it does seem like the Giants have some scouting or management issues. Their top free agents last year seemed to bust, and now their top pick comes in needing medical attention on his back? If TW goes down on the first day, and were to say, "oh, I always get this when I start practicing" this board would be swamped! It's one thing to have an injury, hey they occur, but what gets me is that this was something that the staff ought to have known about...

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Their not the only ones. I think the Bucs two WR's have foot issues. lol. Wonder if they'll hold out long enough to finally decide to have foot surgery and sit part of the season?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;697355]Good Screw the Giants![/quote]

Agreed. Screw the NY Dwarfs.

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With any luck he'll be a GIANT BUST.

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I can just feel the love!:food-smil

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Welcome to the NFL rook

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[quote=Lotus;697380]Agreed. Screw the NY Dwarfs.[/quote]

Deadskins, Foreskins, Midgets, G-Strings, Cowpokes, Cowgirls, Eaglets, Philidelphia Domestic Assaults. It's wonderful the names NFC East fans come up with for one another.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;697372]Keep in mind that this stat was achieved in only 7 games. I remember feeling the same way when I first heard the 6.5 sack number but after I heard that it was done in such a short amount of time it started to make a lot more sense. I mean if Michael Johnson the physical freak from Georgia Tech falls to the 3rd round with 9 sacks it would make little sense to see Pierre-Paul as a top 15 pick a year later considering the fact that both are physically in a class of their own.



I guess in the end D-Lineman taken by the Giants should warrant at least some degree of worry.[/quote]

Umm I think I should add that now, to my list before of reasons to like him less. If your telling me he started only 7 games, then that means the games he didn't start he was used off of the bench, as a situational pass rusher, which is also how he got some of his 6.5 sacks last year.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;697399]Umm I think I should add that now, to my list before of reasons to like him less. If your telling me he started only 7 games, then that means the games he didn't start he was used off of the bench, as a situational pass rusher, which is also how he got some of his 6.5 sacks last year.[/quote]

This is what scouts see though when they look at Pierre-Paul

[quote]After a slow start to 2009, Pierre-Paul broke out in a big way against Florida State with three TFLs, a sack, a forced fumble, and two hurries. He followed up the next week with two TFLs and another sack against Syracuse, and he also blew up a screen pass and ran it back for a touchdown. The next week against Cincinnati, he had two more TFLs. Then 2.5 TFLs and two sacks against Rutgers, where he was one of the few players to come out of that debacle with any honor. Seven tackles, two for loss, another sack, and another forced fumble against Miami. Pierre-Paul got it done in just about every game, whether it was against a weak sister or a top-flight opponent. With scouts and draftniks already projecting him as a possible first-round pick, Pierre-Paul declared for the NFL draft in early January, skipping his senior year.[/quote]

Basically it all boils down to upside. I know that theres a ton of guys picked early due to upside that really shouldn't have been (Dewayne Robertson comes to mind) but as I said before the Giants know how to develop Defensive Lineman and that should be a cause for concern. Luckily we have a LT that will be able to neutralize him.

RT though is another story, and after doing a little bit of research it seems like thats where the Eagles are going to line up Brandon Graham at RE with Trent Cole on the left side. So in the end we could end up with a Graham/Capers rematch which as this point doesn't seem to be in our favor.

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Speaking of NY rookies, looks like Joe McKnight didn't prepare himself for mini camp

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5154866]New York Jets rookie Joe McKnight says I'm not in good shape - ESPN New York[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;697406]Speaking of NY rookies, looks like Joe McKnight didn't prepare himself for mini camp

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5154866"]New York Jets rookie Joe McKnight says I'm not in good shape - ESPN New York[/URL][/quote]


"Jets",....the jets are not a football team,more of a circus.

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[quote=Giantone;697417]"Jets",....the jets are not a football team,more of a circus.[/quote]

Given that the Jets' "circus" went deep in the playoffs last year, what does that say about the Giants' organization?

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[quote=Lotus;697418]Given that the Jets' "circus" went deep in the playoffs last year, what does that say about the Giants' organization?[/quote]

Make no mistake about it the, Jets are a good team that proved themselves in the playoffs. However with that said had they not faced the Colts and Bengals in their last two games then you could easily be looking at a team that went 7-9 or 8-8. Weather or not they make it back to the playoffs this year will be highly dependent on weather or not Sanchez can take the next step in his development.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;697405]This is what scouts see though when they look at Pierre-Paul



Basically it all boils down to upside. I know that theres a ton of guys picked early due to upside that really shouldn't have been (Dewayne Robertson comes to mind) but as I said before the Giants know how to develop Defensive Lineman and that should be a cause for concern. Luckily we have a LT that will be able to neutralize him.

RT though is another story, and after doing a little bit of research it seems like thats where the Eagles are going to line up [B]Brandon Graham at RE [/B]with Trent Cole on the left side. So in the end we could end up with a Graham/Capers rematch which as this point doesn't seem to be in our favor.[/quote]


If Graham is RE he will be going up against our LT which should be TW how would it be Capers.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;697425]If Graham is RE he will be going up against our LT which should be TW how would it be Capers.[/quote]

Sorry, typo, meant to say LE.

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Anything bad that happens to the Giants, I am in favor of.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;697432]Sorry, typo, meant to say LE.[/quote]

I know what you meant, its just nice to check a person whose post most of the time be on point.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;697442]Anything bad that happens to the Giants, I am in favor of.[/quote]

lol.......I'll alert the media!