how and why the Raiders will make the playoffs
 

ok, might make the playoffs.

or could make the playoffs....

either way, [url=http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/raiders/14860]check out my new NFL column
[/url] and feel free to pass the link along to any Raider-fan friends you might have.

thanks!

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It doesn't surprise me with the amount of talent that team has, especially on Defense. Last year they beat some pretty good teams like Philly and Pittsburgh.

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not to be a jerk, but this isnt a raiders forum. i dont particularly care if the raiders turn it around or not.

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the skins had plenty of talent on the team two years ago and, after a strong start, finished 8-8. why? coaching. The raiders are a joke across the board when it comes to coaching and they wont be making the playoffs any time soon.

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[quote=johno;700492]not to be a jerk, but this isnt a raiders forum. i dont particularly care if the raiders turn it around or not.[/quote]


I'd agree. Jason Campbell was the obvious link between the two franchises so it was nice to do the good news bad news thing, but beyond that, I don't so much care about the Raiders.

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I like your writing Rainy, but voluntary mod camp ended for me yesterday (thank you very much Dreamseatfan!), so it's time to re-inforce this rule

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32865-attention-bloggers.html[/url]

Thread locked

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I'm re-opening the thread. Rainy you're good, it's the people that come in only to promote their blogs that the rule is intended for. But going forward I would suggest promoting only Redskins related articles to get a better response from folks here. Thanks

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thanks Matty! it got locked before i could tell you and Smoot that i actually didn't know about that rule he linked to. and i usually write one Redskins column each week, so i'll stick to that one as far as posting new threads here.





[quote=johno;700492]not to be a jerk, but this isnt a raiders forum. i dont particularly care if the raiders turn it around or not.[/quote]

i hear you, but this forum is "Redskins and General NFL Discussion" so feel free not to click on threads about Rothlisburger, Lawrence Taylor, Tebow's jersey, and the Raiders playoff chances. if there was a seperate "general NFL" forum I would have posted it there.

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[quote=Mattyk;700732]I'm re-opening the thread. Rainy you're good, it's the people that come in only to promote their blogs that the rule is intended for. But going forward I would suggest promoting only Redskins related articles to get a better response from folks here. Thanks[/quote]

D*** next time maybe SmootSmack will think twice before not showing up for voluntary Mod camp!

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[quote=johno;700492]not to be a jerk, but this isnt a raiders forum. i dont particularly care if the raiders turn it around or not.[/quote]

DITTO!

I'm looking at the title thread wondering why on earth do we give a rats patooy and then I saw who started the thread. My next question is, is there not a Raiders board he can play on? Some one should pull his starting of new threads abilities. I'm not trying to be a jerk but if it pertains to the Skins I guess it's ok, but if it's talking about Raiders .... who cares.

I'm betting the theory is we as Redskin fans would be still interested in what's being said about JC.
#1- JC has moved on and so have I.
#2- I'm betting there was just some itsy bitsy half sentence about JC and the whole article was about all the other players. So again why would we care?

and.... not to toot my own horn, I've been a member for a while and have posted many of comments, but as of yet even being a Redskin fan on a Redskin board I have not once felt the need to make a new thread. It amazes me that fans of other teams feel the need to show up and start one every other day.

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It's tough to make the playoffs in the AFC, with basically every division being like the NFC East in competitiveness every year.

The Bengals, Jags, and Dolphins have crashed the playoff party in the last three years, so certainly, it wouldn't be impossible for the Raiders to do it, but:

1) The Bengals needed to go 6-0 in the division to make it last year
2) The Dolphins needed to get 11 wins to make the playoffs against a soft schedule, and couldn't have done it without Brady's injury
3) The Jaguars' starting QB threw 3 INTs in 13 games in 2007.

If you're into such stats, the [URL="http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff"]average team DVOA [/URL]of these three teams was only 6.3%, or somewhere between the 2007 Redskins and the 2008 Redskins. So it's certainly possible. But as the Raiders have been the second worst team in football over the last three years, a playoff berth would require both a significant improvement (which is probably coming), and something terrible to happen to Philip Rivers, which may or may not be coming.

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[quote=SBXVII;700743]DITTO!

I'm looking at the title thread wondering why on earth do we give a rats patooy and then I saw who started the thread. My next question is, is there not a Raiders board he can play on? Some one should pull his starting of new threads abilities. I'm not trying to be a jerk but if it pertains to the Skins I guess it's ok, but if it's talking about Raiders .... who cares.

I'm betting the theory is we as Redskin fans would be still interested in what's being said about JC.
#1- JC has moved on and so have I.
#2- I'm betting there was just some itsy bitsy half sentence about JC and the whole article was about all the other players. So again why would we care?

and.... not to toot my own horn, I've been a member for a while and have posted many of comments, but as of yet even being a Redskin fan on a Redskin board I have not once felt the need to make a new thread. It amazes me that fans of other teams feel the need to show up and start one every other day.[/quote]


wow, that was a little harsh. pull my thread starting priviledges? let's leave that one up to Matty.

also, i'm a redskins fan who happens to be a writer. that website has asked me to write bout the Raiders (in addition to weekly columns on the redskins). is that okay?

also, if you've never started a thread.... fine. to each his own. if you have a personal problem with me, also fine, i guess. but as i said, there's plenty of general nfl stuff on this board. if you only want to read the Redskins stuff, that's cool. no one's forcing you to click on threads you dont care about.

you might not have been trying to be a jerk, but you sure came off as one.

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[quote=Rainy Parade;700736]i hear you, but this forum is "Redskins and General NFL Discussion" so feel free not to click on threads about Rothlisburger, Lawrence Taylor, Tebow's jersey, and the Raiders playoff chances. if there was a seperate "general NFL" forum I would have posted it there.[/quote]

Disregard the armchair mods. A lot of folks don't seem to realize we talk Skins and anything related to the NFL in this forum.

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[quote=GTripp0012;700744]It's tough to make the playoffs in the AFC, with basically every division being like the NFC East in competitiveness every year.

The Bengals, Jags, and Dolphins have crashed the playoff party in the last three years, so certainly, it wouldn't be impossible for the Raiders to do it, but:

1) The Bengals needed to go 6-0 in the division to make it last year
2) The Dolphins needed to get 11 wins to make the playoffs against a soft schedule, and couldn't have done it without Brady's injury
3) The Jaguars' starting QB threw 3 INTs in 13 games in 2007.

If you're into such stats, the [URL="http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff"]average team DVOA [/URL]of these three teams was only 6.3%, or somewhere between the 2007 Redskins and the 2008 Redskins. So it's certainly possible. But as the Raiders have been the second worst team in football over the last three years, a playoff berth would require both a significant improvement (which is probably coming), and something terrible to happen to Philip Rivers, which may or may not be coming.[/quote]


great points, it would certainly be a challenge and a suprising result if it happened this year.

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They would have to win the division. No way do they make it as a wild card. San Diego still has to be the favorite but after that I don't think there is a big gap bewtween Oak, Denver and KC.

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On the raiders - skins theme, I watched the "30 for 30" movie the other night by ICe Cube, "Straight Outta LA." It was awesome, except for the clips of the LA Raiders killing us in the super bowl!

They showed an interview w/Dexter Manley from back then. Of course, they had to show M. Allen & his famous run on us. That was the apex for the LA raiders, they went hollywood after that, became a ghettoized fan base & mediocre at best for the rest of the 80s.

Interestingly, of the clips they showed about the raiders demise, they had a Raiders - Skins game in LA w/Jay Schroeder throwing a pick 6 to Martin Mayhew. The highlight was also accompanied by Willie Gault saying the raiders didn't have a great qb then. That they showed that game was fitting, since we traded Schroeder to them for the best LT in the game, Jim Lachey. Lachey went on to win a super bowl w/Joe Gibbs & D. Williams. Schroeder continued his downward slide w/the raiders. Kind of funny to look at that w/the recent JC trade having gone down.

Another funny thing in the movie were the tapes of Shanahan being introduced as head coach in 88 I believe. Rod Martin, raiders LB from the super bowl team, said that Shanahan wanted to make them a finesse team and "took the fun out" of football for him. Shanahan's & Al Davis' stormy relationship has always been well known in the press. Yet, w/Bruce Allen here, we have a former raiders gm who obviously can make a deal w/Al Davis et al.

On the raiders making the playoffs this year; I'd say they're about in the same boat we are. It will take some good fortune & overachieving to get there.

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[quote=skinsfan69;700753]They would have to win the division. No way do they make it as a wild card. San Diego still has to be the favorite but after that I don't think there is a big gap bewtween Oak, Denver and KC.[/quote]

KC hasn't done enough to be a winning team IMO, but Denver should at least give teams a run for their money. they are getting younger, but will need another year to be a winning team. SD has the only complete roster in the div.

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So you really think because JC is a hard working QB that will turn the other players into hard working players? Wonder why it didn't work here? Oh, maybe it did but his stron effort could not over come his lack of talent.

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[quote=firstdown;700757]So you really think because JC is a hard working QB that will turn the other players into hard working players? Wonder why it didn't work here? Oh, maybe it did but his stron effort could not over come his lack of talent.[/quote]

We had bigger problems, don't you think?

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[quote=firstdown;700757]So you really think because JC is a hard working QB that will turn the other players into hard working players? Wonder why it didn't work here? Oh, maybe it did but his stron effort could not over come his lack of talent.[/quote]


no, my point was that switching from Russell to Gradkowski was obviously a spark and that team won with Gradkowski (hardly a worldbeater himself) so i meant that handing the keys to a guy who gives a shit and works hard might have a similar effect.

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True Matt we did have other problems but unless JC has contracted a sudden case of the Leaders then he won't bring much of a change in Oakland. They have talent but who is the leader of that team ? IMO the QB needs to be the leader of the offense if not the team. I think that Jason's leadership was never a strong suit. All that lead by example crap is for the other guys, the QB has to be the guy. He has to make the other 10 guys in that huddle believe that they can accomplish whatever task they are up against. If he finds a way to call his own protections, become more vocal at the line, and actually fortifies himself as the guy then Oakland could be heading up the charts. Many of you have called me out for my hatred of JC but it wasn't him, but his game. He can't sit and crave the love of his Front Office, Coaches, Fans, he has to make them understand that they must love him because he is what they want him to be. He never did that here which is why he is gone. If anyone wonders why I said leader so much, and that he lacked leadership skills then I'll say that I wouldn't have if JC's former teammates didn't express the how much it lacked before Donovan got here.

Then again, he still needs to win the QB job for all of that to matter right ? One more thing, dude are you Jason Campbell's cousin or something ?

Be easy and Hail To The Redskins !!!

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Leaders come in different shapes and sizes. His style may fit in well out there, you don't know.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;700741]D*** next time maybe SmootSmack will think twice before not showing up for voluntary Mod camp![/quote]

It's ok, I get it. He's just trying to send a message to me. I'll tell you what though....I'm skipping voluntary mod camp next year as well

Like I've told Rainy, I like his writing both on and off this board. And I'd much rather lock a lot of other threads, and SBXVII's post was pretty ridiculous. But to Matty's point, I followed the letter of the rule without regard to the spirit of the rule.

So with that in mind, I'm going to leave camp again, go home and think about what I've done...

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I like to say Rainy is one of the better members we have gotten in quit some time.

Also and I have said this before if you don't like the subject don't click on the thread. It clearly says Raiders in the title, it is not like Rainy titled it McNabb out for the season.

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[quote=freddyg12;700754]On the raiders - skins theme, I watched the "30 for 30" movie the other night by ICe Cube, "Straight Outta LA." It was awesome, except for the clips of the LA Raiders killing us in the super bowl!

They showed an interview w/Dexter Manley from back then. Of course, they had to show M. Allen & his famous run on us. That was the apex for the LA raiders, they went hollywood after that, became a ghettoized fan base & mediocre at best for the rest of the 80s.

Interestingly, of the clips they showed about the raiders demise, they had a Raiders - Skins game in LA w/Jay Schroeder throwing a pick 6 to Martin Mayhew. The highlight was also accompanied by Willie Gault saying the raiders didn't have a great qb then. That they showed that game was fitting, since we traded Schroeder to them for the best LT in the game, Jim Lachey. [B]Lachey went on to win a super bowl w/Joe Gibbs & D. Williams.[/B] Schroeder continued his downward slide w/the raiders. Kind of funny to look at that w/the recent JC trade having gone down.

Another funny thing in the movie were the tapes of Shanahan being introduced as head coach in 88 I believe. Rod Martin, raiders LB from the super bowl team, said that Shanahan wanted to make them a finesse team and "took the fun out" of football for him. Shanahan's & Al Davis' stormy relationship has always been well known in the press. Yet, w/Bruce Allen here, we have a former raiders gm who obviously can make a deal w/Al Davis et al.

On the raiders making the playoffs this year; I'd say they're about in the same boat we are. It will take some good fortune & overachieving to get there.[/quote]

Better make that Joe Gibbs & M.Rypien. :)

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[quote=mredskins;700787]I like to say Rainy is one of the better members we have gotten in quit some time.[/quote]
Very refreshing

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If I remember correctly, he covers the Raiders because it's a part of his job there.

BTW, I think JC is roughly equivalent to Gradkowski. I guess one could argue is he's a slight upgrade.

However, their locker room probably needs some air freshening, and JC could probably at least provide some guidance and direction there, but he can't do it all alone.

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thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.

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[quote=Rainy Parade;700801]thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.[/quote]

Nice...

Good read, BTW, but the raiders remind me of the NY Knights in The Natural. Meddling, semi-psychotic owner, crappy GM, and an onery fat coach. Losing is a disease, and they've got a bad case of it. It's going to take a Roy Hobbs like miracle maker to drag them out of the basement, and god love JC, but he's no Roy Hobbs.

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[quote=davy;700788]Better make that Joe Gibbs & M.Rypien. :)[/quote]

my bad, Lachey came here in 88, year after Williams won the SB mvp. I always associate Schroeder w/Williams because the latter said that one game JS told him "get your ass outta there" when he replaced him once during their qb shuffle of 87. Williams got the last laugh for sure.

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[quote=Rainy Parade;700801]thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.[/quote]
Maybe you and Schneed are like...opposite soul mates?

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;700773]True Matt we did have other problems but unless JC has contracted a sudden case of the Leaders then he won't bring much of a change in Oakland. They have talent but who is the leader of that team ? IMO the QB needs to be the leader of the offense if not the team. I think that Jason's leadership was never a strong suit. All that lead by example crap is for the other guys, the QB has to be the guy. He has to make the other 10 guys in that huddle believe that they can accomplish whatever task they are up against. If he finds a way to call his own protections, become more vocal at the line, and actually fortifies himself as the guy then Oakland could be heading up the charts. Many of you have called me out for my hatred of JC but it wasn't him, but his game. He can't sit and crave the love of his Front Office, Coaches, Fans, he has to make them understand that they must love him because he is what they want him to be. He never did that here which is why he is gone. If anyone wonders why I said leader so much, and that he lacked leadership skills then I'll say that I wouldn't have if JC's former teammates didn't express the how much it lacked before Donovan got here.

Then again, he still needs to win the QB job for all of that to matter right ? One more thing, dude are you Jason Campbell's cousin or something ?

Be easy and Hail To The Redskins !!![/quote]

Since this is a skins forum, let's look back at the SB winning qbs of Gibbs. Only 1 was a vocal leader, Joe T. Otherwise, Rypien & D. Williams were both guys that led by example.

If a coach has a strong personality & there is a sense of discipline & unity on a team, I don't think on field leaders have to be constant spokesmen. That's one of many reasons that I wished JC could've stayed & played for Shanahan. I believe Shanahan would've given him the kind of 'mandate' to lead that he needed, since he doesn't appear to be a vocal leader.

In this sense, under a coach like Shanahan (or Gibbs), the qb becomes the voice of the coach & doesn't have to shout the message, just convey it.

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[quote=Hog1;700810]Maybe you and Schneed are like...opposite soul mates?[/quote]


Hmmm....I was going to say TTE.

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Really enjoyed your article on the Good News-Bad News-Mcnabb. I agree with alot of the assessments for the most part.

Not ready for the whole :grouphug: thing....but I find the subject matter of your articles interesting and informative. :thumb:

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[quote=freddyg12;700811]Since this is a skins forum, let's look back at the SB winning qbs of Gibbs. Only 1 was a vocal leader, Joe T. Otherwise, Rypien & D. Williams were both guys that led by example.

If a coach has a strong personality & there is a sense of discipline & unity on a team, I don't think on field leaders have to be constant spokesmen. That's one of many reasons that I wished JC could've stayed & played for Shanahan. I believe Shanahan would've given him the kind of 'mandate' to lead that he needed, since he doesn't appear to be a vocal leader.

In this sense, under a coach like Shanahan (or Gibbs), the qb becomes the voice of the coach & doesn't have to shout the message, just convey it.[/quote]

You are right IF you have a coach that is your leader, or vocal then you don't HAVE to be but why can't you lead your team. I'm going to try my best to keep this on topic as it relates to the Raiders. Now, you wish that Shanny would've kept JC but he didn't. Do you know why JC ended up in Oakland ? Because the tape doesn't lie. Period, Point, Blank. The man doesn't quite exude Franchise guy. It isn't about the line or the receivers it's the tape on him. His slow decision making, his reluctance to learn and call his line protections, his reluctance to take charge of the offense. That is why. I can't stand how we as Redskins fans always say well if we have a line then we can have anyone back there. It is simply not true.

As a QB you have to have something uncanny about you that get's you over that hump. People say that Rothlesberger is shit but he makes a rack of money and do you know why ? Because when the game is on the line you know that you know that you have a chance. Until JC can find that IT Factor Fairyand show the higher ups that he gives you that he will be a second tier QB. For all the "executives" and "unnamed sources" that say how good he is NO ONE WANTED HIM. Let me repeat,.... NO ONE WANTED HIM. It wasn't the "horrible line that he had", it wasn't the "running back that has lost it", or the "Wide Receivers that can't get it done",.. it was him. The QB that doesn't get the ball out fast enough, or the QB that doesn't have one bit of pocket presence, and who is clearly missing that IT factor.

As I said before, if he gets that then he can be more that a QB with pretty good stats once the game is over but really didn't do much for you.

If anyone would like to argue JC's lack of leadership then as I said before, why is it that Donovan brought what was NEEDED so badly ? Remember the players said this, not just me. Once he gets all of that down then IF he wins the job in Oakland then they might be able to hold down one of the top spots in the AFC. Til then, enjoy your 8-8 ceiling Oakland.

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[quote=freddyg12;700754]On the raiders - skins theme, I watched the "30 for 30" movie the other night by ICe Cube, "Straight Outta LA." [B]It was awesome, except for the clips of the LA Raiders killing us in the super bowl! [/B]

They showed an interview w/Dexter Manley from back then. Of course, they had to show M. Allen & his famous run on us. That was the apex for the LA raiders, they went hollywood after that, became a ghettoized fan base & mediocre at best for the rest of the 80s.

Interestingly, of the clips they showed about the raiders demise, they had a Raiders - Skins game in LA w/Jay Schroeder throwing a pick 6 to Martin Mayhew. The highlight was also accompanied by Willie Gault saying the raiders didn't have a great qb then. That they showed that game was fitting, since we traded Schroeder to them for the best LT in the game, Jim Lachey. Lachey went on to win a super bowl w/Joe Gibbs & D. Williams. Schroeder continued his downward slide w/the raiders. Kind of funny to look at that w/the recent JC trade having gone down.

Another funny thing in the movie were the tapes of Shanahan being introduced as head coach in 88 I believe. Rod Martin, raiders LB from the super bowl team, said that Shanahan wanted to make them a finesse team and "took the fun out" of football for him. Shanahan's & Al Davis' stormy relationship has always been well known in the press. Yet, w/Bruce Allen here, we have a former raiders gm who obviously can make a deal w/Al Davis et al.

On the raiders making the playoffs this year; I'd say they're about in the same boat we are. It will take some good fortune & overachieving to get there.[/quote]

I've watched almost all of the 30-for-30s, but deliberately skipped this one because I knew, as did everyone I imagine, that the Redskins-Raiders SB would be profiled, arguably the most disappointing loss in the history of the franchise. Since then, my Raider hatred has been right on par with my Cowboy hatred. If we are actually going to post on this board evaluations of how the Raiders are going to fare going forward, I'd much prefer that the title read instead "How and why the Raiders will continue to suck."

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[quote=Rainy Parade;700801]thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.[/quote]

:lol:

This is definitely sig worthy. LOL.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;700826]You are right IF you have a coach that is your leader, or vocal then you don't HAVE to be but why can't you lead your team. I'm going to try my best to keep this on topic as it relates to the Raiders. Now, you wish that Shanny would've kept JC but he didn't. Do you know why JC ended up in Oakland ? Because the tape doesn't lie. Period, Point, Blank. The man doesn't quite exude Franchise guy. It isn't about the line or the receivers it's the tape on him. His slow decision making, his reluctance to learn and call his line protections, his reluctance to take charge of the offense. That is why. I can't stand how we as Redskins fans always say well if we have a line then we can have anyone back there. It is simply not true.

As a QB you have to have something uncanny about you that get's you over that hump. People say that Rothlesberger is shit but he makes a rack of money and do you know why ? Because when the game is on the line you know that you know that you have a chance. Until JC can find that IT Factor Fairyand show the higher ups that he gives you that he will be a second tier QB. For all the "executives" and "unnamed sources" that say how good he is NO ONE WANTED HIM. Let me repeat,.... NO ONE WANTED HIM. It wasn't the "horrible line that he had", it wasn't the "running back that has lost it", or the "Wide Receivers that can't get it done",.. it was him. The QB that doesn't get the ball out fast enough, or the QB that doesn't have one bit of pocket presence, and who is clearly missing that IT factor.

As I said before, if he gets that then he can be more that a QB with pretty good stats once the game is over but really didn't do much for you.

If anyone would like to argue JC's lack of leadership then as I said before, why is it that Donovan brought what was NEEDED so badly ? Remember the players said this, not just me. Once he gets all of that down then IF he wins the job in Oakland then they might be able to hold down one of the top spots in the AFC. Til then, enjoy your 8-8 ceiling Oakland.[/quote]I think you'd be excellent on secondary station talk radio someday. You fit all the qualifications:
[LIST][*]Love to hear yourself talk[*]Can fill up many hours without much substance[*]Can tie any concept back into a single, unrelated hot button topic[*]Notoriously prone to ridiculous unfalsifiable assertions[*]Even those who want nothing to do with you can't seem to ignore you[*]Ability to fit facts to your arguments eliminates the need to fit your arguments to the facts[/LIST]And: it pays pretty well. So you've got it made.

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[quote=GTripp0012;700833]I think you'd be excellent on secondary station talk radio someday. You fit all the qualifications:
[LIST][*]Love to hear yourself talk[*]Can fill up many hours without much substance[*]Can tie any concept back into a single, unrelated hot button topic[*]Notoriously prone to ridiculous unfalsifiable assertions[*]Even those who want nothing to do with you can't seem to ignore you[*]Ability to fit facts to your arguments eliminates the need to fit your arguments to the facts[/LIST]And: it pays pretty well. So you've got it made.[/quote]

Well I guess I'd be hated as well. Disagree as you may. I see his play one way, you see it another. IF he does all of those things then I think that he can be a very good Qb in this league, you may feel that he has it down already. Prove me wrong and I'll admit that I am. You can't. That's all that it is. The proof is in the pudding GTripp. He is pretty good, but pretty good isn't going to cut it if he wants to excell. He has young receivers which was his problem here, won't have the best O-Line in the league which was his problem here, and a fan base that has a short fuse which was a problem here. And best believe if he starts they will be firing their Offensive Coordinator within 2 years. You tell me how he can take the game that he had here, insert that in Oakland with the team, coaching staff, Front Office, Owner, whatever disadvantages that he had here that may be similar to what he "dealt with" here and have a higher ceiling than 8-8.

And as sarcastic as you may have been, I would love to be on the radio, I'd be able to spread my version of the truth to the masses !

And to hear more opinions such as this as well as others click on the link below !

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wow, this thread went from mocked and locked to 4 pages and 600+ views. it's like Vince Young.