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NY seems to be a lock right now for 2014, what do you guys think?

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/13774/the-new-york-super-bowl-debate]Debating New York's 2014 Super Bowl bid - AFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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I like it alot. I have never been a fan of limiting the SB to warm weather climates and in-door stadiums. While the benefit may only be borne upon a small percentile chance, I hate the fact that the boys have a chance to play in a SB in their home stadium once every 10 or 15 years or so while the skins have zero chance of ever being host to a SB they are playing in.

Also, i like the idea of spreading the event around to all the nfl cities. why should the san diego or miami or arizona cities get the financial windfall? san diego as a city has been a horrible host and accomodator for the chargers to the point the chargers want out after san diego county failed to secure them decent new locations for the new stadium.

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If it cuts the halftime show shorter, I'm all for it. :D

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I just don't understand the argument against it. The playoffs can be in cold weather but not the Super Bowl? I say it's about damn time.

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[quote=Buster;702396]If it cuts the halftime show shorter, I'm all for it. :D[/quote]

Hell yeah agree 100%.

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Could care less either way.

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Football is a cold weather sport SB's should be played outside in the cold every other year.

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[quote=Mattyk;702387]NY seems to be a lock right now for 2014, what do you guys think?

[URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/13774/the-new-york-super-bowl-debate"]Debating New York's 2014 Super Bowl bid - AFC East Blog - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

If NY gets it, then we better be getting one damn quickly behind.

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I'm sure Snyder will be all over it

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Id like to see a superbowl in DC so hell yeah

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[quote=Mattyk;702419]I'm sure Snyder will be all over it[/quote]

He has to get the team out of Fed EX first. It's sad to say but the stadium is outdated with all of these new ones popping up all over the place. [B]If you don't have a dome or warm climate[/B], then you need one of these new state of the art deals before the owners will consider your bid for a SuperBowl. Fed EX Field just will not cut it.

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[quote=Angry;702429]He has to get the team out of Fed EX first. It's sad to say but the stadium is outdated with all of these new ones popping up all over the place. If you don't have a dome or warm climate, then you need one of these new state of the art deals before the owners will consider your bid for a SuperBowl. Fed EX Field just will not cut it.[/quote]


It can't be more or less outdated then the Super Dome and it holds the most in the NFL, I would think it would be a prime location.

Plus concerned the amount hotel space in DC area, yeah it will heavily considered.

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To make the superbowl you often have to go through cold weather cities, so the teams that make it are the ones who can weather the elements. They should win under the same conditions.

I'm of the mind that if you want to prove you're a champion, you have to prove you're the best under any conditions. Weather should not be a factor. You should be able to win in the Superdome just as much as Lambeau.

Rotate to all 32 stadiums like baseball's all star game, with the only exception being if the NFL stadium is too small.

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[quote=Angry;702429]He has to get the team out of Fed EX first. It's sad to say but the stadium is outdated with all of these new ones popping up all over the place. If you don't have a dome or warm climate, then you need one of these new state of the art deals before the owners will consider your bid for a SuperBowl. Fed EX Field just will not cut it.[/quote]

I'm sure he'll get it up to speed if the carrot is there for a potential Super Bowl. The HD screens going in are probably just the beginning of the upgrades.

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[quote=mredskins;702433]It can't be more or less outdated then the Super Dome and it holds the most in the NFL, I would think it would be a prime location.

Plus concerned the amount hotel space in DC area, yeah it will heavily considered.[/quote]

See bold in original post.

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[quote=mredskins;702433]It can't be more or less outdated then the Super Dome and it holds the most in the NFL, I would think it would be a prime location.

Plus concerned the amount hotel space in DC area, yeah it will heavily considered.[/quote]

you ever driven around landover? if you have you would understand why there won't be a superbowl there, it's a f-ing dump

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[quote=mlmdub130;702444]you ever driven around landover? if you have you would understand why there won't be a superbowl there, it's a f-ing dump[/quote]


Doesn't matter most folks will be housed in DC, very few stadiums in the NFL are housed in the best part of town. If SB came here hotel rooms would be booked out to B-more and beyond.

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[quote=mlmdub130;702444]you ever driven around landover? if you have you would understand why there won't be a superbowl there, it's a f-ing dump[/quote]

I'm sure Detroit is not much of a pretty sight either...and while Indianapolis may be a nice city, it probably sucks in January.

Personally, I would keep the Super Bowl only in three cities: Miami, New Orleans, and San Diego.

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[quote=Mattyk;702436]I'm sure he'll get it up to speed if the carrot is there for a potential Super Bowl. The HD screens going in are probably just the beginning of the upgrades.[/quote]

How about parking? That would be a nice change of ways? And if snyder wanted could he put a retractable roof on?

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I think NO should be the permanent home of the Super Bowl. The stadium is a dome so weather for players and fans wont be an issue. The Quarter has all the hotels, bars & restaurants anyone could want and the stadium is close by so most attending the game can walk from hotel to the stadium. Its a perfect setup.

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Lolz at New York being a cold weather city.

I'm all for it. Washington needs a super bowl as well.

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NO is a dump too, walk down the wrong street & you will be sorry just ask any guide & hotel concierge. SD made lots of money of SB's and they won't build a new stadium for SD.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;702462]NO is a dump too, walk down the wrong street & you will be sorry just ask any guide & hotel concierge. SD made lots of money of SB's and they won't build a new stadium for SD.[/quote]

NO isnt great most weeks but when the SB is in town its fine as there are lots of cops making sure none of the tourists have a problem.

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[quote=irish;702468]NO isnt great most weeks but when the SB is in town its fine as there are lots of cops making sure none of the tourists have a problem.[/quote]


That would be the same anywhere if the SB is their more cops will be put on to make it safe the SB could be held anywhere dump or no dump. A coworker of mine goes down to Tenn during Elvis week & he tells me, that place is a dump but during that week cops are out in full.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;702477]That would be the same anywhere if the SB is their more cops will be put on to make it safe the SB could be held anywhere dumb or no dumb. A coworker of mine goes down to Tenn during Elvis week & he tells me, that place is a dumb but during that week cops are out in full.[/quote]

True. All I'm saying is that everything is in close proximity in NO and that's what makes it a great spot for a SB.

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[quote=mredskins;702447]Doesn't matter most folks will be housed in DC, very few stadiums in the NFL are housed in the best part of town. If SB came here hotel rooms would be booked out to B-more and beyond.[/quote]

yeah some cities like detroit and cincy and indy might not be the greatest cities but the stadium is in the city. could you imagine the hell that would be the beltway if it was here. thats why i would think b more has a better chance than us atleast their stadium is in the city. b-more and dc are a good 30 minutes and thats with clear sailing from fedex. it's not a terrible stadium and the new screens should be awesome they are long overdue, but it's in the middle of butt-f md

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I think New orleans, Miami, San Degio, and all the others are extremely played out and it is time for the rest of the NFL to have a chance to host the Super Bowl.

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Cool

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I don't know about Fed-Ex getting it done. I would be surprised if we ever get on there, but who knows. I would think it would take the Redskins building a new building to recieve one. BTW Indy is a crappy city. I went to the formula One races there in 2000-04, not the greatest pace in the world. Niether is Detroit for that matter. A friend of mine is from Detroit and went to the Steelers Seahawks game. After the game Detroit was literally a ghost town on monday. He said it was very freaky.

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I do not believe the argument against cold weather cities hosting the SB is about the game itself. Rather, the people that generally attend a SB are coming a week early for the parties and other activities. Cold weather not conducive to outdoor stuff like golf, beaches, etc. Not to mention travel logistics if you really hit a cold snap?

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It would be a test of how both a dome or a hot weathered team, handle the cold! Of NY or anywhere that is cold weathered.

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It probably will work, but it is a big gamble. An outdoor football game in NY in late Jan/early Feb is asking for a potential clusterfuck. NY gets way more snow we do in Detroit due to the lake effect snow from both Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. Cleveland is the same way, as is Buffalo. Diehard fans probably won't give a shit, but if say Miami makes the SB in 2014, how many folks are going to want to risk getting stranded in a snowstorm at JFK or LaGuardia or have to extend their stay in NY? Cold weather SBs can work, but only in domes in big metro areas that don't get too chilly or have big dumps. Detroit worked because both the Silverdome and Ford Field are domes and the greater Detroit Metro area had a lot of things to do. Green Bay would suck as a SB city as it makes Detroit seem warm, and the snow is worse also. The metro area isn't that big either around GB. INdy could be a nice SB locale, but the city govt better let the local bars/restaurants stay open a lot later than what they are allowed to now!

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[quote=Hog1;702503]I do not believe the argument against cold weather cities hosting the SB is about the game itself. Rather, the people that generally attend a SB are coming a week early for the parties and other activities. Cold weather not conducive to outdoor stuff like golf, beaches, etc. Not to mention travel logistics if you really hit a cold snap?[/quote]
Just ask Jacksonville...

The Minnesota Twins manned up and now have an outdoor stadium to play baseball in, even though Minnesota doesn't get warm until June. If they can bundle up and play baseball, then a bunch of execs and VIPs can do the same to watch football the way it was intended.

However, I personally don't care if the Super Bowl is played in a warm weather city or cold weather open air stadium. But, between San Diego, Phoenix, Houston, New Orleans, Miami and Tampa, you have 6 decent cites to rotate the Super Bowl. Hell, you could even throw LA in there once one of the current teams move there.

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That being said DC would be great as a cold weather SB site. Shitloads to do in DC, big dumps are rare, and your base temp is a lot nice than what the Rust Belt has. Folks from down south wouldn't mind coming up to a mild winter, compared to the frigid winters up here. Folks from up north wouldn't mind either as they would escape Frigidia!!!!!

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;702477]That would be the same anywhere if the SB is their more cops will be put on to make it safe the SB could be held anywhere dump or no dump. A coworker of mine goes down to Tenn during Elvis week & he tells me, that place is a dump but during that week cops are out in full.[/quote]


People stay in the hotels near Metro airport or in very nice Oakland Co. when they have had the SB in Detroit. I am sure a lot stay in the Detroit hotels, but those are rather expensive. Outside of the s tadium/RenCen area Detroit is definitely a dump. But yeah, you are right, Nashville and Memphis are total dumps. In fact, in my travels, anything south of Louisville and Lexington KY are dumps. Tenn and Arkansas make Detroit's eastside look good!!!!!

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THe Deep South has very nice scenery, but the poverty and the run down shacks in those towns is something to behold.

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[quote=BDBohnzie;702509]Just ask Jacksonville...

The Minnesota Twins manned up and now have an outdoor stadium to play baseball in, even though Minnesota doesn't get warm until June. If they can bundle up and play baseball, then a bunch of execs and VIPs can do the same to watch football the way it was intended.

However, I personally don't care if the Super Bowl is played in a warm weather city or cold weather open air stadium. But, between San Diego, Phoenix, Houston, New Orleans, Miami and Tampa, you have 6 decent cites to rotate the Super Bowl. Hell, you could even throw LA in there once one of the current teams move there.[/quote]

A lot of folks not only go to the game, but see it as a vacation, like the college bowl crowd does. Do you really want to pay a ton of $ to see an overhyped game and freezing your ass off for an extended weekend or week? Do you want to go to sunny San Diego or freezing Detroit? Phoenix or Buffalo? Miami or Cleveland? Not much of a decision is it.?

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I won't be there (at the super bowl) so hell I'm all for it.

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[url=http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2010/05/snyder-says-washington-deserves-a-super-bowl.html]NFL News Feed: Snyder: Washington deserves a Super Bowl - Mark Maske[/url]

Snyder makes his case

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I think it's pretty much a joke to not have it in the cold areas. It's part of the game, you play in the hot, you play in the cold - and their whole idea that fans wouldn't like the cold, come on, it's the Super Bowl!!!!