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Redskins8588 03-10-2004 06:44 PM

WWE Invades NFL!!!
 
foxsports.com has an article about WWE's Brock Lesnar stating that after Wrestlemania XX he wants to leave the WWE and try out for the NFL. The article also states that he turned down tryouts for the Bucs and REDSKINS back in 2002. How well do you think that he will or could do in the NFL??

Gmanc711 03-10-2004 06:47 PM

Where's my man Johnnyredskins. Let me tell you somthing, Brock Lesnar wont succeed in the National football league. The guy hasent played football since high school, and I dont even know if he played it then. The only positions that this guy's body is framed for is Fullback and Line Backer, and hes too slow to play those postions. I mean hes a big, athletic guy, so ya never know. But my $$ is on him not even getting close.

Redskins8588 03-10-2004 06:50 PM

I agree with you I dont see him being a star or even making a team but he is big and athletic.

Daseal 03-10-2004 07:54 PM

Wrestling is almost as big of a joke as that oversized galoof trying to do anything more than practice falling and slamming 5 days a week.

Ive never understood the fascination with Wrestling. You have two (or more) guys who are obviously faking it and it's totally set. How can you get into it. THat's like going to a football game with a pre-determined outcome. It's just not fun!

Not to mention the 'personalities' of the wrestlers are just horrible. They try to act like badasses and try to be intense, but I guess that's what you do when your sport finished in the red and is losing fans like Nascar without wrecks.

azskinsfan2 03-10-2004 08:02 PM

I've never heard of this guy(I quit watching wrestling several years ago). I don't think he could make it in the NFL anyway (especiallly if he hasn't played since high school). Several football players have gone into wrestling (Rock) but I don't know of any going from wrestling to the NFL.
Wrestling may be staged and the outcome predetermined but don't ever think these guys aren't athletic. Some of the moves, jumps and falls they take would kick an NFL players butt!!!

Beemnseven 03-10-2004 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Wrestling is almost as big of a joke as that oversized galoof trying to do anything more than practice falling and slamming 5 days a week.

Ive never understood the fascination with Wrestling. You have two (or more) guys who are obviously faking it and it's totally set. How can you get into it. THat's like going to a football game with a pre-determined outcome. It's just not fun!

Not to mention the 'personalities' of the wrestlers are just horrible. They try to act like badasses and try to be intense, but I guess that's what you do when your sport finished in the red and is losing fans like Nascar without wrecks.[/QUOTE]

Daseal, we may not agree on the Clarett issue -- but you hit the nail on the head with regards to "pro wrestling".

Well said.

DA Hogs 03-10-2004 09:28 PM

There are a few guys in the wwe and the nwa now that have played in the nfl one of which Bill Goldberg who played for the falcons till he blew his knee out has came out and said that they are 2 different worlds each have there own grooling days. I don't think brock would make it but there might be a handful of guys that would have a chance (no qb's or rb's )

sportscurmudgeon 03-10-2004 10:17 PM

Brock Lesnar was the NCAA super heavyweight wrestling champion. That's real wrestling folks, not the WWE nonsense.

There was another NCAA super heavyweight wrestling champion who became a nose tackle for a Super Bowl championship team. His name was Curly Culp. And if you never saw Curly Culp play, he was a damned good nose tackle for a long time.

What I wonder is whether or not Lesnar can pass the NFL drug tests after a stint in the WWE? A few folks there have been known to ingest a few "banned substances".

Gmanc711 03-10-2004 10:54 PM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Wrestling is almost as big of a joke as that oversized galoof trying to do anything more than practice falling and slamming 5 days a week.

Ive never understood the fascination with Wrestling. You have two (or more) guys who are obviously faking it and it's totally set. How can you get into it. THat's like going to a football game with a pre-determined outcome. It's just not fun!

Not to mention the 'personalities' of the wrestlers are just horrible. They try to act like badasses and try to be intense, but I guess that's what you do when your sport finished in the red and is losing fans like Nascar without wrecks.[/QUOTE]

The whats the facination with movies, everythings predetermined. How can you get into it? ( Sorry, I gotta stick up for it, I've liked it forever)

Daseal 03-10-2004 11:03 PM

I really don't like many movies, except goofy comedies. Just not my thing.

Sports, I'm not saying the guys that wrestle aren't athletes. It takes skill to do what they do, I'm just saying I don't see the appeal behind it. Lots of things can take skill but be worth nothing. Can these guys make the transition, I don't know. I'm talking about wrestling in itself.

Gmanc711 03-10-2004 11:06 PM

These guys are amazing athletes, but its at a completley different level than football. Its not saying one is above another, they are just completley different things. For football, you have to be quick, powerful and explosive. The only thing you need in wrestling of those, is power. You need more acting ability, charisma, and " Gymnastic" type athletisim to be a good wrestler.

Daseal 03-10-2004 11:11 PM

I agree with you on most all of those points, Gmac. However, I feel the wrestlers are in dire need of some charisma. Their catch phrases and little stunts are normally lame and I feel embarrassed just to watch them.

For a good example of how many wrestlers have a problem making a transition into another field, go check out Macho Man Randy Savage's new cd.

BE A MAN HULK!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to rip on anyone's enjoyed hobby. I'm just trying to explain where I'm coming from. If you like wrestling, then don't think I'm trying to influence you any other man. Depriving another man of his opinion would make me a horrible person. Just posting my ideas so people can see it from another perspective.

SittingBull 03-10-2004 11:13 PM

Brock is definitely diesel and works out like a machine (as most wwe wrestlers do). He kind of looks like Drago from Rocky IV on a steroids/crack combination of some sort. I think he has the strength and stamina to try out for an NFL team but you need more then that to be good and his competition will have the advantage of experience and mentality over him so I dont think he'll make it too far. He was a dominating wrestler in college though. Real wrestling not fake hehe.

Gmanc711 03-10-2004 11:15 PM

I'll agree with most of the current stars. But if you go back to 1998, when the WWF was in its prime, these guys had great charecters, and a had a TON of people hooked. They have made some HORRIBLE decisions on how they run, and market things and they are suffering bigtime for it. The only reason I'm still into it, is becasue a couple of my friends who I dont see as much are into it and it gets everyone together.

skinsfanthru&thru 03-11-2004 01:00 AM

[QUOTE=Gmanc711] For football, you have to be quick, powerful and explosive. The only thing you need in wrestling of those, is power. [/QUOTE]

while everyone knows wrestling is fake, it requires a lot more than just power. these guys have to be quick and explosive not just to protect themselves from injury but the other guy/s in the matches. both "sports" require their athletes to have great endurance as well. that being said I only see the rare exception of a wrestler becoming a pro football and only if they had previous expirience in college with a physical sport.

and on the note about why people watch, I honestly don't know why I watch lately. sure the most of the divas are very nice to watch especially the catfights in lingerie, but I digress. I think mostly its just something to help me stay connected to a part of my childhood when I thought it was all real and it was cool watching the good and bad guys fighting it out, especially the Undertaker.

itvnetop 03-11-2004 04:07 AM

ok, i'm going to sound like a wrestling dork, but some of the guys in wwe are way more amazing than the old guys of the 80s and early 90s. back then, you'd have slow ass hulk hogan and fat guys like andre the giant (rip). now there's guys like rey mysterio jr. who can do a double back flip with a 180 twist off the top rope without breaking their necks. have you seen some of the extreme wrestling shows (like ecw)? ok, these guys may not be all that athletic, but they're freaking crazy- like they would jump off of the top tier in the stadium and land on some guy laying on a table ground level.

hehehe, but seriously i don't watch as much as i did when saturday night's main event used to be on.

Daseal 03-11-2004 07:03 AM

Hrm, half of the diva's look like men on WWF. That trish chick is hot, the rest have a larger penis than me.

cpayne5 03-11-2004 09:13 AM

Brock Lesnar is huge - and would have to pass NFL drug tests. I doubt he has the physical ability to be a great player in the league. Maybe if he fattened up he would become a decent lineman.

Skins fan 44 03-11-2004 09:25 AM

Brock sure is a BIG boy. Would be interesting to see if he could make it. I would almost bet that he could make it. I sure agree about the drug test, maybe he ought to try baseball.

cpayne5 03-11-2004 09:52 AM

If for nothing else, he would be a novelty.

Gmanc711 03-11-2004 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Hrm, half of the diva's look like men on WWF. That trish chick is hot, the rest have a larger penis than me.[/QUOTE]


Torrie Wilson/Stacy Keibler. Look em up, they are way hotter than trish.

skinsguy 03-11-2004 02:14 PM

Lesner didn't play college football, and I really don't think he'd make it in pro football. I think he's pretty stupid for wanting to leave the WWE. After all, he's been a main event top star and I think he had a contract for the next 8 or 9 years.

Many sources had said that he was upset in regards to the Undertaker coming back as his old "deadman" gimmick where he doesn't sell any of the punches from his opponent. For the non-pro wrestling fans here, that basically means that when an opponent goes to "punch you" or "hurt you", then you don't act like it phases you. Brock felt that the WWE would allow the Undertaker (since it was planned for the two of them to have a fued after Wrestlemania), to blow through Brock Lesner. Wrestlers don't like that, because it pretty much ruins their character's tough guy attitude..and Brock doesn't like that.

Anyways, didn't mean to talk Wrestling, just wanted to throw in my two cents worth. You know Bill Goldberg used to play pro football.

ChounsMan 03-11-2004 03:29 PM

I seen this guy wrestle in the WWE a few years ago when he was a nobody & he was HUGE..!! He's all juiced up & I don't know how he thinks he's gonna receive serious consideration from any NFL teams. With all those roids in his system, he's just a timebomb waiting to explode.

This guy is just pumped up air.

He'll probably blow his groin on his first 40 yard dash/scamper.

Stick a fork in this can of corn, cause he's done.

johnnyredskin63 03-11-2004 03:52 PM

i do'nt think brock could go to far in the nfl.he is strong,but arrington,julius peppers,kearse,samuels,and jansen could smack him all over the place.he is
a great athelete,but he is not an nfl talent. ;)
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skinsfanthru&thru 04-21-2004 01:46 PM

saw this a few days ago and thought I'd post it. i can't believe he ran a freaking 4.65.

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=fanball-nflhopefullesnarinju&prov=fanball&type=lgns[/url]

JoeRedskin 04-21-2004 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]while everyone knows wrestling is fake, it requires a lot more than just power.[/QUOTE]


HOLY CRAP!!!! Pro wrestling is fake?? Next your gonna tell me Parcells is coaching the Cowboys!

SKINSnCANES 04-21-2004 02:07 PM

I dont ever follow wrestling, but The Rock lined up with Warren Sapp in Miami. The Rock is a big dude and he didnt make it to the NFl.

Daseal 04-21-2004 06:01 PM

The Rock had a horrible injury if I remember correctly, which is the only reason he wasn't drafted before Warren Sapp. I'm a bit suprised that Brock ran what he ran, but I wanna see what his piss looks like! Well... the results anyways!

sportscurmudgeon 04-21-2004 06:56 PM

Latest news from the St. Paul Pioneer Press is that Lesnar was injured in a motorcycle accident last weekend in Minnesota and lost about a week of training/conditioning for his NFL "tryout". He will go to Phoenix area and resume training Monday.

He is hoping to get in a supplemental draft and is trying to sell himself as a DL/MLB. His workout for NFL scouts/personnel people is around 20 May.

Just to put some history into this thread, back in the 1970s, Geroge Allen had the idea that he would sign Andre the Giant to play DT for the Redskins. Then he found out what Andre was making in wrestling and it was about 5 - 8 times more than any lineman on the Skins at the time. (NFL salaries used to be outrgeously low!) So Allen gave up on the idea of a 7'5" DT who weighed about 450lbs.

Also, a relatively unknown DT for the Denver Broncos became a pretty famous rassler - - Wahoo McDaniel.

And don't forget Ernie "Big Cat" Ladd who was in Super Bowl 1 as a DT for the Chiefs.

Gmanc711 04-21-2004 07:21 PM

In addition you can add Steve " Mongo " McMicheal who wrestled full time. Lawrance Taylor, Kevin Greene and Reggie White also wrestled part time.

Skins fan 44 04-21-2004 07:49 PM

WOW!! I could not even imagine having Andre the Giant as a D-lineman. A QB would not even try to throw around him. He would make Ed "too tall" Jones look like too small. Heck he could almost be knocked down and raise his hands and still block a pass.

SKINSnCANES 04-21-2004 07:51 PM

What about the undertaker as a linebacker. thats a pretty intimidating name and physique for a LB woulndt you say.

skinsfanthru&thru 04-21-2004 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=Skins fan 44]WOW!! I could not even imagine having Andre the Giant as a D-lineman. A QB would not even try to throw around him. He would make Ed "too tall" Jones look like too small. Heck he could almost be knocked down and raise his hands and still block a pass.[/QUOTE]
andre definitely was huge but it's not he could really move anywhere. he was as slow as a turtle. the big show is the closest thing anyone has seen to andre except he has s bit more mobility but that still ain't really saying much.

LynzSkins 04-21-2004 09:38 PM

If he ran a 4.65 with his size could he be DE???

Redskins8588 06-16-2004 12:16 AM


Redskins8588 06-16-2004 12:18 AM

It seems that Brock tried out with the Vikings on friday, it was reported that if he signs on for the league min, it will be alot less then what he was making in the WWE.

SmootSmack 06-16-2004 12:22 AM

I heard he has a tryout with the Chiefs on Thursday and the Packers on Saturday

Redskins8588 06-16-2004 12:25 AM

I am not sure but he must have some kind of talent for teams to even give him a shot, what do you think?

SittingBull 06-16-2004 12:27 AM

Why not import some sumo wrestlers from Japan as O-linemen. Think of the pass protection.

Redskins8588 06-16-2004 12:28 AM

SittingBull you watch to many movies!!! lol!!


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