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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/fullback-carey-davis-added-to.html]Redskins Insider - Fullback Carey Davis added to roster[/url]

Not sure this move even necessitated its own thread quite honestly, but whatever. It's new news

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Probably means that the Sellers injury is worse than first believed.

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Uh oh. Hope Big Mike's injury isn't bad. Speaking of RBs, we need to make a move for McGahee. He's better than any RB on our roster right now, and the Ravens want to move him.

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Definitely must be because of Sellers, really was crossing my fingers he'd be okay, but I guess not.

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A) I knew Sellers knee injury was bad, the second I saw the replay, it reminded me of Jansens a few years back, how he got rolled up and was in pain pretty much the same way.

B) I guess Shanahan doesn't have any faith at all in Dennis Morris :( sucks cause that guy can hit! (and catch)

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alright

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Never want to see serious injury, hope Sellers gets well.

Competiton for the FB spot is a good thing. Hopefully Morris steps up.

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[quote=theJBexperience;723010]Uh oh. Hope Big Mike's injury isn't bad. Speaking of RBs, we need to make a move for McGahee. He's better than any RB on our roster right now, and the Ravens want to move him.[/quote]

You really think that he is better than Portis???

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[quote=theJBexperience;723010]Uh oh. Hope Big Mike's injury isn't bad. Speaking of RBs, we need to make a move for McGahee. He's better than any RB on our roster right now, and the Ravens want to move him.[/quote]


WHAT????? You seriously would rather have McGhahe over Portis. Awful post/idea.

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^

Agreed.

If Big Mike misses time, I am confident that Darrel Young and Dennis Morris could perform fine. It will be a dropoff from Sellers, but they have looked good in camp.

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[quote=mredskins;723104]WHAT????? You seriously would rather have McGhahe over Portis. Awful post/idea.[/quote]

McGahee over Portis, No Way! Portis looked great compared to Larry Johnson. I know Suggs was owning Trent Williams, but Portis seems to find those cracks and just slips through the line a lot better than other backs. Plus Portis picks up blitzing LBs like he is a Left Tackle! McNabb was a little off with his passes Saturday night, but guys dropped balls as well and you have to hand it to the Ravens, they do have a good D.
McNabb threw for 200 yards in one half!! They just couldn't finish.

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I think McGahee would be a fantastic #2 back if we ditched both Parker and Johnson...
Johnson laid an egg during his "super bowl game"....theoretically, a power back should average more yardage than Portis when the blocking breaks down as it did...assuming he is driving up the gut...I didn't see the game but, I have heard nothing to indicate that Johnson was driving piles backwards. A 2 yard average is just pathetic.

Perhaps it was playcalling...Johnson is not a scat back for a zone blocking scheme...he is a no move straight up power back. If we are not going to use him that way, we should not have him on our squad and should trade him for a 4th rounder or something soon.

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I think Sellers has played like shit after signing a new contract so I'm not so sure how big of a loss his injury really is. Maybe someone will step up and take his place because he has done very little in the past year.

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Thread title updated to reflect another signing today

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2249]Tyrone Carter Profile - Pittsburgh Steelers - ESPN[/url]

Not sure what the deal is with signing two former Steelers this weekend

And I believe Chris Draft has been released, have not confirmed though

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Thanks SS, mind deleting my thread?

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[quote=skinsnut;723163]I think McGahee would be a fantastic #2 back if we ditched both Parker and Johnson...
Johnson laid an egg during his "super bowl game"....theoretically, a power back should average more yardage than Portis when the blocking breaks down as it did...assuming he is driving up the gut...I didn't see the game but, I have heard nothing to indicate that Johnson was driving piles backwards. A 2 yard average is just pathetic.

Perhaps it was playcalling...Johnson is not a scat back for a zone blocking scheme...he is a no move straight up power back. If we are not going to use him that way, we should not have him on our squad and should trade him for a 4th rounder or something soon.[/quote]

Johnson did not impress nor can he pass block. I'd take McGahee over him right now but, let's give Keiland a shot. We should've had more veteran competition in at FS from the jump.

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LJ was the victim of some shit blocking more than anything. I wouldn't look too far into his "struggles".

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[quote=Mattyk;723210]LJ was the victim of some shit blocking more than anything. I wouldn't look too far into his "struggles".[/quote]

Portis did very well with limited touches against BAL.

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[quote=firstdown;723173]I think Sellers has played like shit after signing a new contract so I'm not so sure how big of a loss his injury really is. Maybe someone will step up and take his place because he has done very little in the past year.[/quote]

I thought I was the only one who felt that way about Sellers. I need to see as much passion for his blocking as I do his love for the camera.

I agree with Matty, LJ was the victum of what I wouldn't exactly call blocking.

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[quote=SmootSmack;723177]Thread title updated to reflect another signing today

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2249]Tyrone Carter Profile - Pittsburgh Steelers - ESPN[/url]

Not sure what the deal is with signing two former Steelers this weekend

[B]And I believe Chris Draft has been released, have not confirmed though[/B][/quote]According to NFL.com [URL="http://www.nfl.com/transactions"]Draft was cut today[/URL].

Does anyone have the schedule that details when the roster needs to be trimmed down? I thought I saw one on the site a few weeks ago but I can't seem to find it now.

EDIT: Just found it -
August 31 — Rosters cut down to 75 player maximums.

September 4 — Rosters cut down to 53 player maximums.

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From what I have read, this Tyrone Carter was 3rd behind Troy Polamalu and Ryan Clarke and often started in their places.
The Steelers did not resign him since their secondary was vanilla last yr when Polamalu was injured. Carter was essentially replaced by Will Allen (ex giant).
What is weird is that Carter was essentially a "strong safety" with the Steelers and we need a solid cover guy since Moore is injured.

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What the hell? Why does Carey Davis have to share a thread. This is an outrage.

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[quote=Longtimefan;723220]I thought I was the only one who felt that way about Sellers. I need to see as much passion for his blocking as I do his love for the camera.

I agree with Matty, LJ was the victum of what I wouldn't exactly call blocking.[/quote]

I think Sellers has not played the same since Gibbs left town.
Gibbs maximized his talent and valued talk of mauling defenders.
This didn't happen the last 2 years with Zorn...Portis even called him out on it...which was a huge mistake. Sellers is an emotional guy and I think he may have been really offended at that point...he certainly hasn't shown much since. He better get his act together because a couple of those younger guys are itching to take his job....and this scheme is not one that demands a running back bowling ball. I'd watch how well Sellers does on special teams ...because, he's gunna have to prove he deserves a spot on the team due to that. I do think his best days are gone and I wouldn't be suprised if he is cut early to give him a chance to catch on with another team...I just dont want it to be in the same division...the guy can maul you if he's on his game.

Regarding Johnson....true, the blocking sucked...and it was against the Ravens, and some of the plays didn't match his power game strengths....
But c'mon....8 carries is enough for you to break one if you still have something to prove....4 yards is pathetic....just pathetic.....I'll say it again
[SIZE="5"]PATHETIC[/SIZE]

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[quote=Redskins8588;723063]You really think that he is better than Portis???[/quote]

OK Whose stats are whose from last year?

124 ATT 494 yards 4.0 AVG 1 TD
109 ATT 544 yards 5.0 AVG 12 TDs

McGahee owned Clinton in 2009. And to me, on Saturday, he looked like he had more of a burst than CP, and he's got a nose for the endzone. Clinton does look better than last year, but I still give McGahee a slight edge.

If not Portis, McGahee is definitely way ahead of the rest of our RB corps. Although, I am encouraged by Torrain and Williams. McGahee would be a way better veteran backup than LJ & WP.

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Rich Campbell charted LJ's runs:

1. 4-yard gain: Johnson got around the right edge even though C Casey Rabach and RT Jammal Brown were pushed back and LB Ray Lewis penetrated the backfield through RG Artis Hicks.

2. 4-yard loss: FB Mike Sellers missed the lead block.

3. No gain: Baltimore’s linebackers plugged the gaps, and RG Artis Hicks was beaten.

4. 3-yard gain: RG Artis Hicks was pushed back into the backfield, forcing Johnson to make his cut prematurely.

5. No gain: LT Trent Williams missed his block in space on the left edge.

6. 3-yard loss: LT Trent Williams was driven back by LB Terrell Suggs, blowing up the play in the backfield.

7. 2-yard gain: There wasn’t a significant hole for Johnson to hit. Perhaps he could have done more on this one if he had hit it faster. FB Mike Sellers was injured on this play.

8. 2-yard gain: Johnson tripped over RG Artis Hicks’ legs.

…so as you can see, the offensive line gets a fair share of the blame for Johnson’s poor production.

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[quote=Mattyk;723256]Rich Campbell charted LJ's runs:

1. 4-yard gain: Johnson got around the right edge even though C Casey Rabach and RT Jammal Brown were pushed back and LB Ray Lewis penetrated the backfield through RG Artis Hicks.

2. 4-yard loss: FB Mike Sellers missed the lead block.

3. No gain: Baltimore’s linebackers plugged the gaps, and RG Artis Hicks was beaten.

4. 3-yard gain: RG Artis Hicks was pushed back into the backfield, forcing Johnson to make his cut prematurely.

5. No gain: LT Trent Williams missed his block in space on the left edge.

6. 3-yard loss: LT Trent Williams was driven back by LB Terrell Suggs, blowing up the play in the backfield.

7. 2-yard gain: There wasn’t a significant hole for Johnson to hit. Perhaps he could have done more on this one if he had hit it faster. FB Mike Sellers was injured on this play.

8. 2-yard gain: Johnson tripped over RG Artis Hicks’ legs.

…so as you can see, the offensive line gets a fair share of the blame for Johnson’s poor production.[/quote]

Come on Matty, you know we HAVE to blame one and only one person. [/sarcasm]

Back to the thread, did I read correctly that Carter will play Strong Safety? Don't we have a bunch of them already?

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I think the Redskins should think about signing Jason Davis from the Jets when he gets released. Apparently he's NFL caliber but being stuck in camp with John Conner and Tony Richardson doesn't help when you're trying to make a team.

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[quote=theJBexperience;723253]OK Whose stats are whose from last year?

124 ATT 494 yards 4.0 AVG 1 TD
109 ATT 544 yards 5.0 AVG 12 TDs

McGahee owned Clinton in 2009. And to me, on Saturday, he looked like he had more of a burst than CP, and he's got a nose for the endzone. Clinton does look better than last year, but I still give McGahee a slight edge.

If not Portis, McGahee is definitely way ahead of the rest of our RB corps. Although, I am encouraged by Torrain and Williams. McGahee would be a way better veteran backup than LJ & WP.[/quote]

I think you mean whose stats are worse but Portis was hurt last year and the O-line sucked. This season will see Portis return to form to the tune of 1200+ yards and 12-15 TDs.

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[quote=Ruhskins;723267]Come on Matty, you know we HAVE to blame one and only one person. [/sarcasm]

Back to the thread, did I read correctly that Carter will play Strong Safety? Don't we have a bunch of them already?[/quote]

Blame is to be shared, but everything being equal, Portis performed and LJ did not.

I mentioned that Carter "played" strong safety in Pitt...I doubt we signed him to do the same here....especially since the Skins claim our safeties are interchangable.
My point is based on limited knowlege....keep in mind this same guy backed up Ryan Clarke when he was out too....and he is their free safety.

Pitt released the guy based on filling in for Palomatu (strong) for what it is worth...and he apparantly had a couple defender of the week awards.

What would be helpful is if someone has seen this guy in action and can give us a solid opinion of his play

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[quote=Dirtbag359;723270]I think the Redskins should think about signing Jason Davis from the Jets when he gets released. Apparently he's NFL caliber but being stuck in camp with John Conner and Tony Richardson doesn't help when you're trying to make a team.[/quote]

You must also watch hard knocks because thats what Rex Ryan said

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[quote=CultBrennan59;723277]You must also watch hard knocks because thats what Rex Ryan said[/quote]

Of course. Very little chance I can keep up with third string fullbacks without some sore of prompt.

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Haslett's defense is probably the Steeler defense, with some variations.

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[quote=theJBexperience;723253]OK Whose stats are whose from last year?

124 ATT 494 yards 4.0 AVG 1 TD
109 ATT 544 yards 5.0 AVG 12 TDs

McGahee owned Clinton in 2009. And to me, on Saturday, he looked like he had more of a burst than CP, and he's got a nose for the endzone. Clinton does look better than last year, but I still give McGahee a slight edge.

If not Portis, McGahee is definitely way ahead of the rest of our RB corps. Although, I am encouraged by Torrain and Williams. McGahee would be a way better veteran backup than LJ & WP.[/quote]

Portis only played in 8 games while McGahee played in 16

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[quote=RedskinMike;723298]Portis only played in 8 games while McGahee played in 16[/quote]

But still, McGahee had less carries than Portis and still ran for more yards. I think he's a slight upgrade.

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^ So who do we send to the Ravens to get McGahee?

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[quote=Lotus;723305]^ So who do we send to the Ravens to get McGahee?[/quote]

The last I saw, the Ravens were looking for a late round pick. Yeah, I hate trading so many picks, and the Skins already have, but if we're really employing the win now mentality, a late-rounder for McGahee isn't a bad price.

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Nice pickup with Carter. A nice little gem for depth!!!!!!

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J... stats aren't the only thing bud. McGahee also has one of the best Olines in football blocking for him.

Mcgahee is younger and may have more burst, but I honestly believe CP is one of the most complete running backs in football. He is by far the best blitz pickup back in the league, still has speed, and has good vision.

With his new dedication to practicing and belief in MS's system he will have top 10 numbers in yards and tds this season as long as he can stay healthy.

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[quote=theJBexperience;723308]The last I saw, the Ravens were looking for a late round pick. Yeah, I hate trading so many picks, and the Skins already have, but if we're really employing the win now mentality, a late-rounder for McGahee isn't a bad price.[/quote]


Tempting, but we need to get away from the win now stuff. That is why I am supportive of the new regime, but also a tad wary. You always use some FA acquisitions to shore up any deficiencies, but you should make the draft the backbone of building a winner. Look at NE. God damn they traded down and got what like a dozen picks? Of course not all of those guys are going to make the final roster, but your odds of getting some nice depth is better if you keep trading away picks for proven vets that might be on the downward slope of their careers or becoming injury prone. Jamaal Brown might fully recover and become a beast for us, then again he might have chronic hip trouble and be out half or more of the time during the season. I am hoping that once a decent roster is finally formulated and they are comfortable with the new systems that Shanny and the FO will turn more focus on the draft.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;723311]J... stats aren't the only thing bud. McGahee also has one of the best Olines in football blocking for him.

Mcgahee is younger and may have more burst, but I honestly believe CP is one of the most complete running backs in football. He is by far the best blitz pickup back in the league, still has speed, and has good vision.

With his new dedication to practicing and belief in MS's system he will have top 10 numbers in yards and tds this season as long as he can stay healthy.[/quote]

I agree, if he can stay concussion free he should be a stud this season.