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MTK 08-26-2010 08:06 AM

Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Kinda stole this idea from PFT...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/26/high-expectations-could-result-in-a-dramatic-fall/]High expectations could result in a dramatic fall | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Personally I'm just not buying the Jets hype. I think they're a year away from being a serious contender. Sanchez is still raw and they're not going to sneak up on anyone this year. I smell a 7-8 win season for them.

mredskins 08-26-2010 08:12 AM

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yeah after watching hard knocks I am with you. Even Rex and company seem a bit worried.

tdSKINS1 08-26-2010 08:21 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Most defintely the Cowboys. Being hyped to be the first team to host a Super Bowl.. I know they are a very talented team that can certainly make it far but just from watching the Cowboys fail to show me anything in the post season really doesn't convince me that there going to do it this year. Aside from all their injuries early I don't think they will have as great of a season as so many people (not here of course) are believing.

aceinthehouse 08-26-2010 08:49 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
my top 3 teams with high expectations, who I could see missing the playoffs
#1)Dallas
#2)San Diego
#3)Raiders

I pick Dallas #1 because they have a brutal schedule. Forget the fact that the NFC East is going to be tough. They play @Vikings and we saw what happened in the Vikings/Dallas playoff game.

They play @Green Bay
and they got the SB champs in Saints at home on Thanksgiving...after just Playing the Lions that following Sunday. So only 3 days rest there.

Not to mention they have an early BYE week at WK4.
Then they got the Colts on the road...
Their 2 easiest road games of the season are @Houston and @Arizona
I could easily see them go 6-10 on the season...
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As you see I have 2 teams in the AFC West in my top 3.
That's because the Chargers are predicted to be good off their past seasons and the Raiders because they now have a "QB" lol

The Chargers are in big trouble imo...They are significantly weaker than their strong teams before with the loss of L.T. and Cromartie.

They also might be without WR Jackson and McNeil if they both holdout till week 10. That's huge dent in their team imo...

The AFC West is more wide open now than people realize imo..
Look for the Chiefs to surprise this season.

skinsfaninok 08-26-2010 08:49 AM

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Dallas offensive line could really hurt them, I just don't buy Wade Phillips he's a decent coach but IMO he's a little whipping boy to JJ. They have ridiculous expectations for a ROOKIE wr, who is already injured. They are loaded at RB so that will help. Defense is solid but I just don't think they are a super bowl team.

FRPLG 08-26-2010 08:52 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Yeah the Jets have to be the one team I look at and wonder why there is so much hype. I don't buy there their offense and without Revis their D isn't as good. Plus I suspect Rex is the second coming of his father...ie: not a really good coach. He may be able to coordinate and his shtick may work initially but it will wear thin and once the going gets tough they're gonna fold.

skinsfaninok 08-26-2010 08:52 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
As for Oakland, I don't see how they could have that high of expectations. They have finished 5-11 for 7 straight seasons. I doubt they even get to .500

MTK 08-26-2010 08:54 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;724077]As for Oakland, I don't see how they could have that high of expectations. They have finished 5-11 for 7 straight seasons. I doubt they even get to .500[/quote]

Yeah I haven't heard much hype about them from analysts. I mean most think they will be improved, but high expectations for them is .500 at best.

firstdown 08-26-2010 08:58 AM

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Vikings, I just think Farve goes down in a blaze. Dallas is a strong second.

Longtimefan 08-26-2010 09:06 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Thomas Boswell's article in today's WashPost entitled "History Speaks Clearly" offers an interesting take on expectations, how/why they should be tempered.

aceinthehouse 08-26-2010 09:09 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Listening to mike and mike already and they're talking about Oakland surprising..

Skinsfan and matt...You two haven't heard the hype on Oakland?

Boy I sure have...It's been from there draft was awesome and now they have a QB,to there defense will get them there this year to all kinds of stuff.

Now they don't have as high expectations as Dallas or even San Diego,but they're being talked about as a possible playoff team from what I've heard.

Not to mention the AFC West plays the NFC West this year as well,so you couldn't ask for an easier schedule really for all....and vice versa for the NFC West playing the AFC West.

MTK 08-26-2010 09:10 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Oakland's hype is more about them being improved which isn't hard to do considering where they're coming from, I'm talking more about Super Bowl hype. Teams like the Jets, Cowboys, Vikings, etc.

aceinthehouse 08-26-2010 09:28 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;724088]Oakland's hype is more about them being improved which isn't hard to do considering where they're coming from, I'm talking more about Super Bowl hype. Teams like the Jets, Cowboys, Vikings, etc.[/quote]

Oh..ok
I see
yep

Chico23231 08-26-2010 09:44 AM

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I'd say the Jets too,....you know its tough to repeat in this league so might say New Orleans

los panda 08-26-2010 09:54 AM

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i hate to see it because i'm a huge favre fan, but i don't see the vikings making it any farther than they did last season

i actually think jc will help get oakland above .500

i'd have to say that the jets are my #1 pick though - with or without revis. i don't see a deep playoff run for them

Ruhskins 08-26-2010 09:56 AM

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Here are my teams...

1. Cowboys: If their offensive line continues to have problems.
2. Minnesota: Favre's age will catch up with him.
3. New Orleans: Will probably put a lot of points, but many not have the same success.

As far as the Jets, I'm kinda torn on them. They have a sick defense, and I think their success will depend on their running game (and how productive LT can be as a backup).

Lotus 08-26-2010 10:01 AM

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I'm with those who are skeptical about all the hype surrounding the Jets.

I'm with those who think that the Cowboys ancient offensive line could be their undoing.

The Vikes may have a harder time than people think, especially if Adrian Peterson gets hurt and Favre finally manifests his age.

I think that the Saints are loaded but last year they had many things luckily go right. This year may be tougher for them.

Monkeydad 08-26-2010 10:03 AM

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[B]Dallas is the annual answer and they rarely disappoint.[/B]

Minnesota's WR injuries would play a huge role in them falling short of last season's success.

Baltimore's secondary issues and uncertainty about Ed Reed should help them finish behind Cincinnati.

I don't think Sanchez will blossom like others do, plus they brought in so many bad personalities (Holmes, Cromartie, etc.) that I think the locker room will just blow up in a Dallas-like implosion.

The Patriots will look very vulnerable with an aging O-line, missing Mankins.

Kolb the savior in Philly? Not a chance. They'll be battling NJ for the basement in the NFCE.

The 49ers are solid all over the roster, except QB. They should still win the weakest division in the NFL though, but the postseason won't be pretty for them.

I think Houston will take a step back without Kyle Shanahan...and still no solid RB.

CRedskinsRule 08-26-2010 10:21 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Annually I have little faith in Wade Phillips or Norv Turner living up to the hype that follows their teams every year. Whether either team implodes, I don't know about that tho. I expect both to either miss or be one and done in the playoffs.

I think the Jets Defense will lash out at the offense by the middle of the season, and the team to have some kind of major turmoil.

I want to say the Saints, but they seem to have their heads on straight so far, and a pretty good focus, so while they may not win the SB again, I doubt they will fall short of the playoffs.

Monkeydad 08-26-2010 10:35 AM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
I don't think Gregg Williams' defense will allow the Saints to falter much this season.

They won't repeat, but they should still remain one of the better teams this year.

I didn't list SD because I don't think they are expected to win it all this year. They should barely beat out Oakland for the division, but they're no 14-2 team.

SmootSmack 08-26-2010 12:08 PM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
I feel like the Jets will be like the Cardinals. Two years ago, the Cardinals won their division at 9-7, got hot at the right time and came within a couple of inches of winning the Super Bowl. Last year, they finished 10-6 and even had a better defense (stats wise). Yet they were out of the playoffs early. I think the Jets will have a similar year, possible 10-6 season with a better offense than last year but out of the playoffs early.

MTK 08-26-2010 12:20 PM

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Speaking of the Cards I know alot of people are down on them, but I still see them as a strong contender in that division. Not sold on the 49ers just yet.

SmootSmack 08-26-2010 12:22 PM

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Once they get John Skelton into their starting lineup, Cards will be just fine :)

I thought the Cards would be good enough with Leinart being a game manager, and Beanie Wells' career taking off to compete for the division title. After seeing Leinart (and Anderson) on Monday night I'm less confident

MTK 08-26-2010 12:24 PM

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Yeah Leinart looked shakey and DA looked like, well DA. But it's still early. Leinart seems like he just needs to get some confidence going.

Monkeydad 08-26-2010 12:25 PM

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They might as well play Skelton. Leinart has proven over and over he's not a starter...Derek Anderson is better than him, only slightly...but he's a Cleveland Browns reject.

If things start to fall apart, which they probably will...throw Skelton into the mix.

12thMan 08-26-2010 12:30 PM

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I'm going with the Vikes.

A hobbled Brett Favre, no Sidney Rice for half the season, and who knows if Percy Harvin can endure those migrains for an entire season. They lost Chester Taylor during the offseason. Sure they drafted Toby Gerhart, but will he compliment Peterson running and receiving the way Chester Taylor did?

I'm very interested to see what AP does this year. I think he's still a 1500 yd back, but more in the style of Clinton Portis and less break away TDs. Peterson experienced a drop off in YPC for the last 6 or 7 games last year. I wonder if all the pounding is starting to catch up to him.

I think they are a 9-7 team this year.

Longtimefan 08-26-2010 12:33 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;724190]Speaking of the Cards I know alot of people are down on them, but I still see them as a strong contender in that division. Not sold on the 49ers just yet.[/quote]

I think people are down on them because they don't have confidence in Matt Leinart. Many feel Curt Warner was the heart and soul of that offense and without him the Cards will struggle. Whether their beliefs' hold water remains to be seen.

Dirtbag59 08-26-2010 12:37 PM

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[COLOR="Red"][B]Houston [/B][/COLOR]- Loosing Kyle Shanahan and a tough schedule will be to much to overcome unless their defense can step up. Plus Tenneessee is poised to reclaim the number 2 spot in that division.

[COLOR="Orange"][B]New Orleans[/B][/COLOR] - Madden Curse lol

[COLOR="Purple"][B]Minnesota [/B][/COLOR]- Adrian Peterson always seems like he's playing on borrowed time. Brett Farve has admitted that his ankle isn't exactly 100%, a far cry from the shoulder surgery from last year that had him feeling great. On top of that Sidney Rice is out for half the year.

[COLOR="DarkGreen"][B]Jets[/B][/COLOR]- They're a talented team that most importantly played well in the playoffs. However at the same time they should have been 8-8 last year instead of 9-7. No way do they beat the Colts during that 14 game win streak. Plus they have so many new pieces in place and Sanchez isn't seasoned yet. Their success depends on how well Sanchez plays. Anyway some teams need to play better in the postseason the Jets need to find a way to win in the regular season.

[COLOR="Navy"][B]St.Louis [/B][/COLOR]- The Greatest Show on Turf isn't what it was. Warner is washed up and Faulk just retired. Hopefully Bulger can pick up the slack.

SmootSmack 08-26-2010 12:42 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;724209]

[B]St.Louis [/B]- The Greatest Show on Turf isn't what it was. Warner is washed up and Faulk just retired. Hopefully Bulger can pick up the slack.[/quote]

I think the Broncos losing Elway could hurt more

NoviSkins 08-26-2010 12:45 PM

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Vikings and Dallas, the Jets defense will keep them in every game.

Monkeydad 08-26-2010 01:30 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;724211]I think the Broncos losing Elway could hurt more[/quote]

Nah, that Portis kid should pick up where Terrell Davis left off. A decade from now, he and Shanahan will still be running over defenses together.

GTripp0012 08-26-2010 02:04 PM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
The Cowboys aren't really deserving of the hype, but what else is new? I do think they are going to beat a lot of pessimistic projections for their battered OL, winning some close games against weaker teams to reach 9 or 10 wins, but that doesn't sound like a team ticketed for the super bowl.

As bright as I think the future is for McCarthy's Packers, people are WAY overboard on the Aaron Rodgers love these days. Not only is he being mentioned as one of the top five QBs in the game today (a bit premature, but not that outlandish), but some are talking about him as an all time great. A mediocre record for the Packers and another season w/o a playoff victory will help keep his rise in context.

The Texans and 49ers are getting a lot of love for teams that haven't been good in the last seven years. If you're looking to bet against hype, gambling against teams that don't ever win is a good place to start. The Raiders also fall into this category, but there's more substance there than in either Houston or San Francisco. They just don't know how to use it. I don't think they will, but if they ever figure it out...they could actually be a force in the AFC playoffs. Until that day, it's probably the status quo for them.

I'm not sure what T.O. did to make everyone forget how unlikely the Bengals were to return to the playoffs in THAT division, but it was quite the slight of hand.

And finally, I agree with everyone on the Jets. This year's team is a lot like last year's team, which means 7-9 wins. This year's AFC is not like last years, where that many wins somehow resulted in a playoff berth (well, at least for non-AFC West teams).

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-26-2010 02:12 PM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
Minnesota Minnesota and Minnesota with Dallas not too far behind.

NYCskinfan82 08-26-2010 02:39 PM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;724211]I think the Broncos losing Elway could hurt more[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing. LMAO :laughing2

Longtimefan 08-26-2010 03:12 PM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
[quote=Mattyk;724197]Yeah Leinart looked shakey and DA looked like, well DA. But it's still early. Leinart seems like he just needs to get some confidence going.[/quote]

I wonder just how much confidence the Cardinals organization have ever really had in Leinart. I thought when Bulger became expendable they would have made a play for him. In the event Leinart falters completely, I thought Bulger would have been a good fit there. They need a qb that can consistently get the ball to their playmakers.

Slingin Sammy 33 08-26-2010 03:51 PM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;724194]Once they get John Skelton into their starting lineup, Cards will be just fine :)

I thought the Cards would be good enough with Leinart being a game manager, and Beanie Wells' career taking off to compete for the division title. After seeing Leinart (and Anderson) on Monday night I'm less confident[/quote]OL is bad, Leinart and Anderson are both bad. Cards will be a middle of the road team. I'm buying SF to win the division. Cards are lucky they're in the NFC West. They'd be sub-.500 in any other division.

And if they struggle early and are 2-6 or so at mid-season I'd put Skelton in.

GusFrerotte 08-26-2010 07:34 PM

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Yeah Cards are going to be average this season atbest. Biggest disappointment is going to be the Vikings. Favre won't last a month I bet, plus look at the WR corp now. AP had a nice year last season, but not like his hot rookie year. If Favre has nobody to throw to the defenses can just load up in the box for the run. Dallas seems to lose a lineman a week so far in the preseason. I think Romo is going down also.

TheSmurfs22 08-26-2010 09:09 PM

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I would love nothing more than to watch the Cowpukes go up like Atlanta in Sherman's March to the Sea.

I also think the Vikes are vulnerable.

saden1 08-26-2010 09:22 PM

Re: Team with big expectations most likely to implode in '10?
 
I'm going with Cowboys...way-way-way hyped up and overrated. I will not be shocked if they finish 8-8. Teams like the Cowboys have no business talking Super Bowl...no business.

Gmanc711 08-26-2010 09:30 PM

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I don't get the hype around Dallas to be all world, but I think they'll make the playoffs, so I dont know if that means they "implode"...

I'd go with the Vikings though.


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