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[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ombudsman-blog/2010/08/post_columnist_mike_wise_suspe.html"]Wow, what an idiot.[/URL]

Maybe should move this to the Parking Lot...although Wise does do some Redskins reporting/stories.

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It's totally his fault and the radio gig has made him feel he has the right to pull such a dumb move.

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While integrity is important common sense should prevail. He wasn't fired and didn't deserve to be. All will be well.

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He seems too smart to be pulling dumb stuff like this

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People get suspended over an F*&*ing tweet. They are gay to start with now its double down gay. This comes from a guy who has never sent or received a text. That is also gay to me.

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[quote=firstdown;726196]People get suspended over an F*&*ing tweet. They are gay to start with now its double down gay. This comes from a guy who has never sent or received a text. That is also gay to me.[/quote]

you've never even RECEIVED a text? do you have that feature turn off?

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[quote=tryfuhl;726202]you've never even RECEIVED a text? do you have that feature turn off?[/quote]

Nah, this is FD's phone:

[IMG]http://www.seefirstblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/old-cellphone.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=firstdown;726196][B]People get suspended over an F*&*ing tweet.[/B] They are gay to start with now its double down gay. This comes from a guy who has never sent or received a text. That is also gay to me.[/quote]

Welcome to 2010 Gramps.

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He would have made a valid point if he wasnt a journalist himself... Instead it's just a stupid move on his point.

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As a member of the media (though no longer in the area of reporting news), I think what Wise did was juvenile, petty, and out of line (and not all that surprising from what I've heard of Wise).

People expect news and information instantly these days (and there's basically nothing more instant than Twitter). It's a challenge for members of the media to satisfy the increasingly instant needs of the public for information, and sometimes in a rush to get information out the information may end up being incomplete or even inaccurate. But that can even happen when a reporter is working several months on a story. Mistakes do happen.

Still, I know for a fact that every credible media source understands the impact of platforms like Twitter and is careful to make sure they are comfortable with the validity of the information they post, as they are representing not only themselves but also their employer. If information ends up being inaccurate or wrong, that can happen and, as in the case of Tim Cowlishaw and his mistaken Darrelle Revis tweet last week, the reporter will usually own up to it.

Even when I post something here, I always make sure I'm confident enough in the info I have to post it. I've been wrong plenty of times but it's not from making up info.

Wise has, in my opinion, tossed aside nearly all credibility he ever had by doing this.

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I dislike most of the WP so I'll just smile and continue my life :)

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Not a very smart move for a journalist, and completely wrong and unethical. Twitter (though I do ot following anyones accounts) is a completely universal way to get out information. Although not to defend him, I have seen a few tweets be reported then later retracted for being wrong information or just trying to be first in the world of instant media.

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[quote=firstdown;726196]People get suspended over an F*&*ing tweet. They are gay to start with now its double down gay. This comes from a guy who has never sent or received a text. That is also gay to me.[/quote]

LOL talk about grumpy

text messaging is liberating the less I can hear annoying peoples voices the better. Texting allows me to do that since sometimes you just have to communicate with such people.

not to mention sending texts to a lady friend while doing something else (i.e. reading this site) is much easier than listening reacting and responding to her every word.

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that guy is so annoying .. he thinks he so cool ... everyone on Washington Post Live is pretty much "strugggeeelin" (Joe Namath Version)

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How ironic he was trying to, "comment on the lowered standards of accuracy for information shared on social media," and his employer would not stand for such low standards of accuracy, so they suspended him.

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I have to confess my ignorance with twitter. I thought it was basically a text sent to your phone en mass. Is twitter regulated like tv, radio and print media? If not I don't see the big deal.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;726285]I have to confess my ignorance with twitter. I thought it was basically a text sent to your phone en mass. Is twitter regulated like tv, radio and print media? If not I don't see the big deal.[/quote]

not so much, however he identifies himself as an employee of The Washington Post.. pretty much every company tells you when representing the company that there is a code of conduct, etc

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couldn't happen to a nicer douche-bag.

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[quote=SmootSmack;726225]As a member of the media (though no longer in the area of reporting news), I think what Wise did was juvenile, petty, and out of line (and not all that surprising from what I've heard of Wise).

People expect news and information instantly these days (and there's basically nothing more instant than Twitter). It's a challenge for members of the media to satisfy the increasingly instant needs of the public for information, and sometimes in a rush to get information out the information may end up being incomplete or even inaccurate. But that can even happen when a reporter is working several months on a story. Mistakes do happen.

Still, I know for a fact that every credible media source understands the impact of platforms like Twitter and is careful to make sure they are comfortable with the validity of the information they post, as they are representing not only themselves but also their employer. If information ends up being inaccurate or wrong, that can happen and, as in the case of Tim Cowlishaw and his mistaken Darrelle Revis tweet last week, the reporter will usually own up to it.

Even when I post something here, I always make sure I'm confident enough in the info I have to post it. I've been wrong plenty of times but it's not from making up info.
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Wise has, in my opinion, tossed aside nearly all credibility he ever had by doing this[/B].[/quote]

Seriously. How dumb is he? Doing it just to prove a point about twitter? It's like he was saying "hey, you want to see me piss on my career? Watch this!"

In general I like Mike Wise's columns, and his radio show is pretty good, too. But man, this was epically stupid.

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I just looked at his twitter page- that moron still hasn't taken down the tweet in question. He did call himself an idiot. At least he's aware of his status.

[url=http://twitter.com/mikewiseguy]Mike Wise (MikeWiseguy) on Twitter[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;726327]I just looked at his twitter page- that moron still hasn't taken down the tweet in question. He did call himself an idiot. At least he's aware of his status.

[url=http://twitter.com/mikewiseguy]Mike Wise (MikeWiseguy) on Twitter[/url][/quote]

I honestly back his decision to leave it up. A visible scar is humbling.

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[quote=tryfuhl;726334]I honestly back his decision to leave it up. A visible scar is humbling.[/quote]

I get what you're saying, but he already apologized live on the radio today, and tweeted apologies and called himself an idiot. Isn't that enough?

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[quote=GMScud;726339]I get what you're saying, but he already apologized live on the radio today, and tweeted apologies and called himself an idiot. Isn't that enough?[/quote]

Sure, but would deleting it really save face for him? Not at all.

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I agree it was dumb for a guy who seems to have a good thing going for him and risking with this move was not Wise (pun intended)...But, he did prove his point. Media today will scoop up anything and report it without credible sources. He threw a bone and it got gobbled up. He was correct. I am not supporting what he did but I agree with the guy.

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[quote=tryfuhl;726340]Sure, but would deleting it really save face for him? Not at all.[/quote]

No it wouldn't save any face at all. That's not why I think he should delete it. He should delete if because it's false and just seriously jeopardized his career and credibility.

If a public figure gets arrested and it becomes public knowledge, does that person walk around with that arrest record taped to his/her back? Hell no. Everyone already knows about it. Do your best to put it behind you and move on.

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Holy cow what a dope move. I get that Wise is a wise-cracking type goofball but I always thought he seemed like a self-aware intelligent guy. How he thought this was a good idea...and nobody around him voiced objection is baffling.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7;726344]I agree it was dumb for a guy who seems to have a good thing going for him and risking with this move was not Wise (pun intended)...But, he did prove his point. Media today will scoop up anything and report it without credible sources. He threw a bone and it got gobbled up. He was correct. I am not supporting what he did but I agree with the guy.[/quote]

Well when you dint hear it directly from the horse's mouth you should always get at least two sources to verify. Still, upon until yesterday he was considered a credible source. So he really didn't prove much of anything

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[quote=SmootSmack;726352]Well when you dint hear it directly from the horse's mouth you should always get at least two sources to verify. Still, upon until yesterday he was considered a credible source. So he really didn't prove much of anything[/quote]
I never really looked at Wise as a source or a reporter.. just more of a columnist with an opinion

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[quote=GMScud;726346]No it wouldn't save any face at all. That's not why I think he should delete it. He should delete if because it's false and just seriously jeopardized his career and credibility.

If a public figure gets arrested and it becomes public knowledge, does that person walk around with that arrest record taped to his/her back? Hell no. Everyone already knows about it. Do your best to put it behind you and move on.[/quote]

In the twitter world it's already dead as a submission, the only time that it will be seen is the reports linking to it. I was actually surprised to see it still up once I heard about it though.

I think that he's doing his best to put it behind him

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[quote=SmootSmack;726352]Well when you dint hear it directly from the horse's mouth you should always get at least two sources to verify.[/quote]


I think that's exactly what he is saying...The story got picked up and reported even without a source. I don't know if you can qualify Wise as a source since he is more of a columnist than a reporter.

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7;726393]I think that's exactly what he is saying...The story got picked up and reported even without a source. I don't know if you can qualify Wise as a source since he is more of a columnist than a reporter.[/quote]

Just because he's focused more on his columns now doesn't mean he's not a reporter. He's been a reporter for major media (NY Times, Washington Post) for over 15 years. He put himself out there as representing the Washington Post, and as someone with access to information that not many have. I can't find any excuse in what he did.

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Regardless of what you want to call him, source, reporter, columnist, at the end of the day what he did was irresponsible and wrong.

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Well based off his credentials I think tagging him as a reporter is correct, and I agree that what he did was irresponsible, wrong and inexcuseable because he represents the Post and it's bad publicity but he did prove his point about social media networks. IMO

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Wise is an f*ing jackass anyway, glad he is suspended, wish he got fired. F him

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[quote=SkinsLove24/7;726403]Well based off his credentials I think tagging him as a reporter is correct, and I agree that what he did was irresponsible, wrong and inexcuseable because he represents the Post and it's bad publicity but he did prove his point about social media networks. IMO[/quote]

I agree. At this point in his career he's not a reporter.

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[quote=tryfuhl;726202]you've never even RECEIVED a text? do you have that feature turn off?[/quote]
I don't even know if I have the feature on my phone. I dam sure not going to sit there myself and push all those little letters to send a text when I can just pick up the phone and actually have a conversation with the person.

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[quote=firstdown;726413]I don't even know if I have the feature on my phone. I dam sure not going to sit there myself and push all those little letters to send a text when I can just pick up the phone and actually have a conversation with the person.[/quote]

You've never wanted to simply get a quick answer, or say a quick note, without having to have a whole conversation about it. For example, a text saying I'll be 10 minutes late, is a lot easier than a call that prompts a 15 minute conversation on why you will be 10 minutes late.


As for Wise, it was poorly planned and executed, but the point he was making has some validity.

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In today's rat race of sports reporting, Wise undoubtedly got caught up in that never ending anxiety to be a first and it cost him dearly. No excuses, lesson learned.

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[quote=Longtimefan;726418]In today's rat race of sports reporting, Wise undoubtedly got caught up in that never ending anxiety to be a first and it cost him dearly. No excuses, lesson learned.[/quote]

He wasn't trying to be first though. He was just trying to prove a point. A point which he, as an official member of the sports media representing himself as such is simply unqualified to make.

I mean I get the point he was trying to make, we saw it to some extent when some Saints fan updated Andre Carter's wikipedia page to say he had been traded to New Orleans for a 3rd rounder. Or, perhaps more close to home, I once posted here that I had heard but not could not confirm that Trent Williams had agreed to a contract and it was just undergoing customary league approval. Someone here tweeted that news and it spread across message boards like wildfire. Turns out my info was wrong (premature). Official media, however, took both the Carter report and the TW report and said basically "looking into it, nothing confirmed, have not heard anything" or "we have not heard this"

But there's a greater expectation, or at least should be, when someone like Mike Wise shares information than when say GoSkinsSBXXII does. If Mike Wise was wrong about something, that's one thing. When he deliberately tries to mislead, that's completely another.

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I'm not even sure his point was worth trying to make, certainly not in that manner at least. He's lucky he wasn't fired.