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skinsfaninok 09-05-2010 08:05 PM

Ranking the 32 Head Coaches in the NFL
 
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=tsn-166944]Sideline to sideline: Who's the best NFL coach? - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Pretty cool article

skinsfaninok 09-05-2010 08:08 PM

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I would swap Shanny and Fisher.

NYCskinfan82 09-05-2010 08:28 PM

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Bill Belichick, Patriots he was stealing signals for how many years that really needs to be taken into account IMO. It's like when they say Favre is a warrior he was addicted to pain killers for how long they never take that into account.

saden1 09-05-2010 08:50 PM

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Sean Payton at #2? Winning a SB does wonders for your career and stature but damn!

warpaint 09-05-2010 09:10 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;728524]Bill Belichick, Patriots he was stealing signals for how many years that really needs to be taken into account IMO. [B]It's like when they say Favre is a warrior he was addicted to pain killers for how long they never take that into account.[/quote][/B]

What does his addiction have to to with him being a warrior? Pain killers dont make the man. Im not that big of a Favre fan but you cant question 20 years of not missing a game due to injury he plays football not baseball.

CRedskinsRule 09-05-2010 09:28 PM

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It says something that Wade Phillips is the last of the NFCE coaches mentioned. I am not really as high on Coughlin as this article has him, but I do think he is a better coach than WP.

Big C 09-05-2010 10:42 PM

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8. Ken Whisenhunt, Cardinals

[QUOTE]QB Matt Leinart(notes): ” Just looking back at my rookie year, what we were as a team until now — it’s night and day. That’s due a lot to his philosophy and the attitude and discipline he’s brought to us. He’s been extremely hard on me, but I think it’s helped me to be mentally tougher and I think all that will pay off for both of us.”[/QUOTE]

LOL. good one matt

tryfuhl 09-05-2010 11:07 PM

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[quote=Big C;728542]8. Ken Whisenhunt, Cardinals



LOL. good one matt[/quote]

:laughing2

mooby 09-06-2010 12:41 AM

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Pete Carroll is a better head coach than Gary Kubiak? I don't like that one, Kubiak took the Texans from a laughingstock as a franchise and now has them on the edge of the playoffs. Carroll bailed on USC because he knew they were gonna get heavily punished for the transgressions he knew about while he was head coach there. I honestly don't think he'll do any better in the NFL than he did in his first stint here.

I'd also say I won't be suprised if the Bills have the worst record in the league this year, I have no idea why Chan Gailey is a head coach. He led the Cowboys to 3 straight 5-11 stints as head coach, then last year got fired as OC in the preseason for the Chiefs. Apparantly that's head coach material in this league lol.

tryfuhl 09-06-2010 12:51 AM

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[quote=mooby;728569]Pete Carroll is a better head coach than Gary Kubiak? I don't like that one, Kubiak took the Texans from a laughingstock as a franchise and now has them on the edge of the playoffs. Carroll bailed on USC because he knew they were gonna get heavily punished for the transgressions he knew about while he was head coach there. I honestly don't think he'll do any better in the NFL than he did in his first stint here.

I'd also say I won't be suprised if the Bills have the worst record in the league this year, I have no idea why Chan Gailey is a head coach. He led the Cowboys to 3 straight 5-11 stints as head coach, then last year got fired as OC in the preseason for the Chiefs. Apparantly that's head coach material in this league lol.[/quote]

good catch.. I honestly stopped looking after the NFC-E was over

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-06-2010 01:13 AM

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pete should be down near tom cable till he proves anything in the nfl not the ncaa

CultBrennan59 09-06-2010 01:21 AM

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Bill Belicheat shouldn't be that high, A) he was stealing peoples signals for we don't know how many years, and B) once his core group of veteran players started leaving, he started looking like on of the 20's ranked coaches. He started getting cocky, thinking he could win without Vrabel and Seymour and Samuel...wrong and wrong and wrong. Him going for it on 4 & 2 doesn't help his case either. Five years ago, I'd agree with him being ranked number one, but today, I'd rank him in the middle. And for those who question Sean Payton at two, just look at what he did with his first year in New Orleans, taking a 3-13 team, into a 10-6 team, playoff contender, and being a win away from the super bowl that year.

Rex Ryan, Ken Whisenhunt, and John Harbaugh need to be ranked a lot higher than where they are. Andy Reids lost his touch, Coughlin is back to where he was a few years ago, with the fire Coughlin rumors floating around, and Mike Tomlin is only good because his team was already built for him by Cowher. Jeff Fisher, I never understood why people rate him that high as a coach.

RedskinsfaninBaltimore 09-06-2010 01:41 AM

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Hahaha Wade Phillips is 15. Stupid Santa Clause lookin bastard

skinsfaninok 09-06-2010 07:20 AM

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I agree with you guys on kubiak.. I think he's a good coach and this should be the year Houston goes to the playoffs. As far as Wade goes, he has done a decent job everywhere he's been but his playoff record isn't any good.

KI Skins Fan 09-06-2010 08:05 AM

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I'd move Fisher ahead of Payton, based on his body of work.

I'd also rate Tomlin, Reid, and Coughlin ahead of Mike Shanahan, at least until Mike gets this season under his belt. Then we can see how he stacks up now.

I have no idea how anyone could think that Rex Ryan is the 10th best HC in the NFL. New York media bias, perhaps?

Pete Carroll ahead of Gary Kubiak? That's ridiculous to me. Carroll has done nothing of note in the NFL.

I'm not sure that it's even fair to rank Schwartz, Morris, and Spagnuolo yet because they haven't had enough talent to compete.

Chan Gailey is a poor HC, IMO. Last place, for sure.

Where do you think Jim Zorn would rank on this list?

NYCskinfan82 09-06-2010 08:37 AM

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[quote=warpaint;728527][/B]

What does his addiction have to to with him being a warrior? Pain killers dont make the man. Im not that big of a Favre fan but you cant question 20 years of not missing a game due to injury he plays football not baseball.[/quote]


Pain killers take away the pain allowing him to play therefore he never missed a game.

skinsfaninok 09-06-2010 08:46 AM

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^ mike shanahan has only been out of football for 1 season lol... It's not like Joe Gibbs or anything. He's avg. 10 wins a season for his career, and 2 super bowls. He's top 5 for sure

Beemnseven 09-06-2010 09:57 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;728591]I'd move Fisher ahead of Payton, based on his body of work.

I'd also rate Tomlin, Reid, and Coughlin ahead of Mike Shanahan, at least until Mike gets this season under his belt. Then we can see how he stacks up now.

[B]I have no idea how anyone could think that Rex Ryan is the 10th best HC in the NFL. New York media bias, perhaps?[/B]

Pete Carroll ahead of Gary Kubiak? That's ridiculous to me. Carroll has done nothing of note in the NFL.

I'm not sure that it's even fair to rank Schwartz, Morris, and Spagnuolo yet because they haven't had enough talent to compete.

Chan Gailey is a poor HC, IMO. Last place, for sure.

Where do you think Jim Zorn would rank on this list?[/quote]

Love him or hate him, Ryan did manage to get his team with a rookie quarterback to the AFC Championship game in his first year. People hate him because he's boisterous and a trash-talker. So what. He's a good coach with a good football mind, and he gets his team to perform.

MTK 09-06-2010 10:51 AM

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I like Rex but he might be a tad overrated on this list. He got it done for one year, let's see how he does over the course of a 3-5 year stretch before he hits the top 10.

SmootSmack 09-06-2010 10:21 PM

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Pete Carroll has won a division title and a playoff game as an NFL head coach. Kubiak still hasn't done that.

I think Kubiak is a solid head coach, but it's become put up or shut up time for him

tryfuhl 09-06-2010 11:22 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;728620]I like Rex but he might be a tad overrated on this list. He got it done for one year, let's see how he does over the course of a 3-5 year stretch before he hits the top 10.[/quote]

I don't know that 9-7 is getting it done, even if it is in the AFC-E

Dirtbag59 09-06-2010 11:28 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;728594]Pain killers take away the pain allowing him to play therefore he never missed a game.[/quote]

I think you might be overestimating pain killers. Do they work? Absolutely, however the fact of the matter is they can only do so much. On top of that you can only take a certain amount as to properly balance pain relief and mental/physical acuity. Pain killers in the amount that would totally kill pain would cause you to fail a field sobriety test.

MTK 09-07-2010 08:04 AM

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[quote=tryfuhl;728895]I don't know that 9-7 is getting it done, even if it is in the AFC-E[/quote]

They got to the AFC Championship, I'd call that getting it done

Monkeydad 09-07-2010 12:07 PM

Re: Ranking the 32 Head Coaches in the NFL
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;728521]I would swap Shanny and Fisher.[/quote]
Plus, Reid is WAY too high.

Shanetrn1 09-07-2010 12:37 PM

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I wonder how much of the Texans success was Kubiak's doing, or Kyle Shanahan's offensive gameplan?

Monkeydad 09-07-2010 02:46 PM

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We'll find out, but they're stacked on D also, except for the secondary.

I expect a little decline from Schaub's monster 2009 season, but not a lot.

aceinthehouse 09-08-2010 04:05 AM

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If you were ranking all the coaches from 1-32,guess who would be #1 in opening day wins?

Yep! You guessed it!
Mike Shanahan is 12-4 in week 1 games his career.

sportscurmudgeon 09-08-2010 10:00 PM

Re: Ranking the 32 Head Coaches in the NFL
 
I have no argument with the coaches in the Top Seven here. I could debate for a long time about which coach should be higher or lower, but the Top Seven here is a pretty good list.

The next three coaches, Wisenhunt, Harbaugh and Ryan have thin resumes. Maybe they belong that high on the list and maybe not. Time will tell.

Regarding the rest of the list:
[INDENT]Wade Phillips is too high at 15; I'd have him between 20 and 22.

Lovie Smith is WAAY too high at 20; I'd have him closer to 30.

The coaches listed 28 - 32 are coaches of teams that stink. That is not necessarily a reflection of them as coaches; it might be more a problem with the GM or the owner - - or in the case of the Raiders, both.

Gary Kubiak and Mike Singletary are too far down on the list.[/INDENT]


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