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MTK 09-15-2010 08:56 AM

It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[url=http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2010-09-14/week-2-matchup-houston-texans-at-washington-redskins]Week 2 matchup: Houston Texans at Washington Redskins - NFL - Sporting News[/url]

I think both teams could be in for letdowns coming off huge division wins. The Kyle Shanahan connection could play in our favor, but we need to get the offense cranking to keep up with Houston's high powered attack. Unlike Dallas who was all hype, Houston actually delivered week 1.

BleedBurgundy 09-15-2010 09:11 AM

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Yeah, we could be in trouble. If our run d against dallas was any indication, Foster could be in for a huge game. Unlike Dallas, Kubiak doesn't seem to need to force the pass, he'll happily run it all day if it's working.

aceinthehouse 09-15-2010 09:12 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Well,we were able to shut down and take Witten out of the game against Dallas...

I'm thinking they will target a key player and do the same...Andre Johnson will probably get his catches regardless,much like Austin. But if we can keep him from hurting us deep,I think we can manage that...

Owen Daniels is a darn good TE and we will need to keep him in check like we did Witten.

But to win,I think we need to keep their Running game in check and put lots of pressure on Schaub and try to force turnovers with our aggressive Defense.

If we can cause fumbles and get a pick or 2,we can win the game.
I think Schaub can be rattled...and we need to find a way to do it!

Chico23231 09-15-2010 09:22 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Its funny cause I fear Houston's running game more than its passing game right now. We must be more physical up front and push there line into the back field on runs. In the pass game, we are gonna have to sure up our zone coverage. Too many holes, but Homo couldnt find'm.

On Offense we MUST be better on 3rd downs. I think we were 3-13 last week. That sh*t is not getting it done. I think the redzone play calling needed to be better too. I hate it when we called back-to-back corner fades. Change it up and use our talented TEs. I believe our offense will be better.

I also think if we are physical right off the bat with Texas on both sides of the ball, we could create some intimidation. Let them know its gonna be a long day on the road playin an NFC East team

rbanerjee23 09-15-2010 09:22 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
We will give up yards to the Houston offense - that's a given. It's whether we will give up points that is the better question. Dallas gashed our defense with 380 yards of offense but the defense stepped up when it mattered so I think they will do the same.

I think Arian Foster will do pretty well against us b/c we could not stop Dallas' run game to save our life and Andre Johnson will have a good game as well b/c Doughty is too slow and neither Hall, nor Rogers is good enough to cover him.

That being said, the Dallas defense is way, way better than Houston's defense so I am looking for the offense to show up a little more this week. I think we may actually have a relatively high scoring game with each team breaking 25 points each.

Lotus 09-15-2010 09:30 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
I watched the Texans-Colts game and the Texans ran the ball at will. It wasn't just Arian Foster - anyone could have run through those holes. If we don't fix our run D this week, we could be in trouble.

Conversely, the Texans pass D is less than scary as long as you can keep Mario Williams in a bottle. We need a plan to keep him out of the backfield, and we need to stop dropping passes, but if we do those things then McNabb could have a nice day.

The Texans targeted the Colts and now they're on the road. Let's hope that they suffer an emotional hangover.

freddyg12 09-15-2010 09:30 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
I wonder if Garrett kept passing simply because haslett kept blitzing? They ran on the 3rd & short plays & caught us w/1 d linemen. If Houston is dead set on running the ball, I'm sure we'll see Haslett put in some bigger fronts.

The run d is a concern though, I thought dallas could've pounded it on us a lot more.

MTK 09-15-2010 09:33 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;733684][B]Its funny cause I fear Houston's running game more than its passing game right now.[/B] We must be more physical up front and push there line into the back field on runs. In the pass game, we are gonna have to sure up our zone coverage. Too many holes, but Homo couldnt find'm.

On Offense we MUST be better on 3rd downs. I think we were 3-13 last week. That sh*t is not getting it done. I think the redzone play calling needed to be better too. I hate it when we called back-to-back corner fades. Change it up and use our talented TEs. I believe our offense will be better.

I also think if we are physical right off the bat with Texas on both sides of the ball, we could create some intimidation. Let them know its gonna be a long day on the road playin an NFC East team[/quote]

Probably just their week one gameplan more than anything, play smashmouth and keep the ball out of Manning's hands. No doubt they want to run, but I doubt they keep up that run to pass ratio all season.

mredskins 09-15-2010 09:40 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
I got to think having Kyle on our side is a huge plus. We need this win because it is a home game.

Plus Indy vs. Hos; those two teams know each other really well it is a toss up when you play out of your division; you never know we may match up well against them.

Longtimefan 09-15-2010 10:00 AM

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^^ I was glad Dallas didn't continue to run the ball, the outcome may have been different had they done so. The one play that was surely going for a touch when they called time out sticks in my mind.

The Texans are going to have to take their show on the road, it remains to be seen if they can be as effective at FedEx as they were at home Sunday against the Colts. If they insist on running the ball in hopes of duplicating their previous effort, we'll adjust accordingly.

While I do have some concerns about our run defense, it's not to the extent I fear the Texans beating us with their running game. We need to show improvement on both sides of the ball, both our passing and running games need to gear up and be consistent. Our offense must lead us to more than a couple field goals.

skinsfaninok 09-15-2010 10:01 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
I think our offense will play much better this Sunday, in fact it wouldn't shock me if we led in TOP. Texans have a good Pass Rush but their overall D is nothing like Dallas. Houstons secondary is very avg. I also say our D plays at a high level once again, those guys will be fired up to shut down another good Offense..


23-17 redskins

12thMan 09-15-2010 10:04 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
I think all week one games can be misread a bit.

First, you're not working with much game film, so you're not as prepared defensively to see what they'll thow at you. And from a conditioning perspective, some players are still transitioning from training camp to regular season. Case and point, Jamal Brown is still getting into football shape.

I think we'll be fine. Foster might get his, but I think our defense is better than the Colts anyway.

LandrySlice 09-15-2010 10:19 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Look for the Texans to go to the air alot more against our soft zones. My guess is that we will win a close game by a field goal. I'm a little drunk right now, so I dont have any business posting, but I did it anyways! HOUSTON... SUCK MY JAGON!

Longtimefan 09-15-2010 10:38 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;733706]I think our offense will play much better this Sunday, in fact it wouldn't shock me if we led in TOP. Texans have a good Pass Rush but their overall D is nothing like Dallas. Houstons secondary is very avg. I also say our D plays at a high level once again, those guys will be fired up to shut down another good Offense..


23-17 redskins[/quote]

Maybe McNabb will put on a performance to rival that of Marc Brunell the last time we played the Texans. A record 22 consecutive complations, a record since tied by David Carr. j/k.....I don't really expect that kind of performance on Sunday, but I do want to see more sustained offense against a team capable of scoring points. We're not going to win a lot of games scoring 13 points, so the offense must begin to show improvement and I think they will.

SmootSmack 09-15-2010 10:47 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
I think it'd be great if our defense randomly spit out lines from this classic

I miss you like the sun rise
by Arian Foster

I miss you like the sun rise
Winter nights became reality's home,
Snow men stand here like soldiers of Rome,
My tears freeze before they kiss the wind,
I think of warmth and miss you then,
Since when when did rose petals crack While pondering love,
Dressed in pitch black with this sombering sun,
I sit an fish, out of the river Styx,
Catching cold souls with their quivered lips,
They whisper sweet like lemons drip,
And gaze my eyes like Medusa's gift,
My bait is smiles.
Unhook me, look me not into dusk,
Ease my cuts, and release my lust,
Inhale my words, and breathe my wants,
Let the light marry my eyes,
And let the same inherit the skies.
I miss you like the sun rise.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-15-2010 10:51 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Good points from everyone.

I am very excited to see TW vs Mario. Nice follow up to Ware for the rookie.

Also excited to see Hall vs Johnson. If Hall can slow him down enough I think we'll be able to focus on stopping the run more.

MTK 09-15-2010 10:55 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
And to add to the Shanahan/Kubiak connection, we shouldn't forget that Kubiak cut his teeth in this league under Mike Shanahan as a player and coach. It's the classic teacher vs. pupil this week.

firstdown 09-15-2010 11:01 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;733685]We will give up yards to the Houston offense - that's a given. It's whether we will give up points that is the better question. Dallas gashed our defense with 380 yards of offense but the defense stepped up when it mattered so I think they will do the same.

I think Arian Foster will do pretty well against us b/c we could not stop Dallas' run game to save our life and Andre Johnson will have a good game as well b/c Doughty is too slow and neither Hall, nor Rogers is good enough to cover him.

That being said, the Dallas defense is way, way better than Houston's defense so I am looking for the offense to show up a little more this week. I think we may actually have a relatively high scoring game with each team breaking 25 points each.[/quote]

Why the hell is everyone saying Dallas ran all over us? They racked up 103 yards which was ranked 17th last week and we where ranked 20th. As bad as our running game was Dallas was not that much better and they did not run all over us.

firstdown 09-15-2010 11:06 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
WOW I was just looking up how many yards Dallas ran on us and noticed that LL had 17 tackles. I knew he had a good game but dammmmmmmm thats alot. If he stays on that pace he will be well over 200 for the year.

MTK 09-15-2010 11:06 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=firstdown;733751]Why the hell is everyone saying Dallas ran all over us? They racked up 103 yards which was ranked 17th last week and we where ranked 20th. As bad as our running game was Dallas was not that much better and they did not run all over us.[/quote]

They averaged 5 yards a pop, while I don't think they "ran all over us" but still, the run D needs to be tightened up.

skinsfan69 09-15-2010 11:13 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Houston's offense will give them the advantage. It's going to be tough to hold them down.

Paintrain 09-15-2010 11:16 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=Mattyk;733741]And to add to the Shanahan/Kubiak connection, we shouldn't forget that Kubiak cut his teeth in this league under Mike Shanahan as a player and coach. [B]It's the classic teacher vs. pupil this week.[/B][/quote]

Or is it teacher vs. pupil vs. teacher with all of the Kubiak, Mike and Kyle connections?

Foster had a great game last week but let's not lose sight of how bad Indy's defense is. They aren't scaring anyone defensively, especially in the run defense area. That being said, our best bet is to shut down the run to force the ball into Schaub's hands. It's really pick your poison but our pass rush/secondary is the strength of the defense so I'd rather put it on them than leaving up to Kemo, Carriker and Golston.

Offensively, we've got to work the middle of the field. I don't know why we didn't see any seam routes at the safeties last week. Our defense spent too much time on the field and offensively I don't think we ever got into a rhythm so that factors into how sluggish we seemed. Brighter days are ahead and they start Sunday!

GhettoDogAllStars 09-15-2010 11:18 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Teacher and Pupil vs Pupil/Teacher

diehard 09-15-2010 11:21 AM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
I think our CBs will match up pretty well. Let's focus on stopping the run for this game and the future. McNabb is still better than Schaub and that's saying something.

BleedBurgundy 09-15-2010 12:03 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=Mattyk;733761]They averaged 5 yards a pop, while I don't think they "ran all over us" but still, the run D needs to be tightened up.[/quote]

Exactly, it wasn't that the total yardage was obscene, it was that they could run it whenever they wanted. Fortunately, they were less interested in running than trying to pile up meaningless stats for their rookie wr.

saden1 09-15-2010 12:08 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
They are good, I don't think they are that good. We should be able to pick that defense apart with us having Kyle on the team. Also it's going to be an all day battle between our Williams and theirs. I'm taking ours and I'm taking the Redskins in a big win. 27-14.

Hail to the Redskins!

Bucket 09-15-2010 12:20 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Going from Dallas Defense to Houston is a huge downgrade, and I think Arian Foster is totally overated. Keliand Williams could run for 150 yards against the colts undersized dline.

Foster had huge holes all game, and wasn't even touched till after 10 yards off the LOS.... He also didn't get all those yards till Sanders was injured and out of the game.


I think we need to worry about the Pass attack from the Texans, and hopefully Kyle has some insight on that.

freddyg12 09-15-2010 12:24 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;733736]Good points from everyone.

I am very excited to see TW vs Mario. Nice follow up to Ware for the rookie.

Also excited to see [B]Hall vs Johnson[/B]. If Hall can slow him down enough I think we'll be able to focus on stopping the run more.[/quote]

I'm sure there will be a lot of zone by the skins, but if they were to match up 1 on 1 I think Rogers would be a better fit. He has the size & he played a great game on sunday, though I wish he'd caught that int. as usual.

BleedBurgundy 09-15-2010 12:25 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
anyone know how much Kyle Shanahan tends to throw to the running backs? I noticed Portis only had one catch during week 1.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-15-2010 01:16 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Concerns:
- Our front 3 is not very good. Houston just ran for a butt-load of yards at 6.1 per carry. I didn't see the game, but from what I've listened to the Texans are described as a much more physical team than years past. This does not bode well for our D. I'm sure Haslett will gameplan for this, but to do that you are now relying on our CBs in Man Coverage vs. A. Johnson. I'm not as worried about Rogers, but I don't like a D. Hall vs. A. Johnson match-up.

- Our OLBs are still making too many mistakes in the run game, again not a good thing for a team that will likely be planning a run heavy / PA day.

- Houston only gave up 44 yards rushing.....but we are talking the Colts. Rush is often a four letter word to them.

Good Stuff for us:
- Our running game picked up in the second half (60 yds vs. 29 in the first). Hopefully this a sign of things to come.

- Houston's D ain't the Cowgirl D. If TW can control MW, we should be fine offensively. The Colts O is good, but 463 yds passing is a lot. The Houston secondary isn't scaring anyone.

- KS knows the Texans better than Kubiak knows the Shanahans. We should have a tactical/gameplanning advantage.

- We're at home.

It will boil down to if we can stop the run on a consistent basis. We do, we win. My prediction, Skins 30 - Texans 23.

saden1 09-15-2010 01:20 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;733805]anyone know how much Kyle Shanahan tends to throw to the running backs? I noticed Portis only had one catch during week 1.[/quote]

He waisted all the passes on Sellers. It really is time to cut Mike Sellers. He can't run block, he can't pass block, and he can't catch the f'ing ball. Worthless.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-15-2010 01:22 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=freddyg12;733802]I'm sure there will be a lot of zone by the skins, but if they were to match up 1 on 1 I think Rogers would be a better fit. He has the size & he played a great game on sunday, though I wish he'd caught that int. as usual.[/quote]

Yeah, but the problem is that all the Houston WRs are big. Plus, I don't think QBs are scared of Rogers at all. It will definitely be interesting.

Dirtbag59 09-15-2010 01:23 PM

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Thread isn't titled properly. Please change to "It's F'n Houston Week." Thanks in advance.

SkinzWin 09-15-2010 01:39 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;733837]Thread isn't titled properly. Please change to "It's F'n Houston Week." Thanks in advance.[/quote]

I see a running theme for every week this season...


Even with Arian Foster and Andre Johnson I think we match up just as well as we did to the overhyped Cowboys. Solid tackling is going to be a must. I have faith that Haslett will make the right changes for this game and Shanny Jr. will get in the Texans offensive head.

My prediction: Redskins 19-17

redskinjim 09-15-2010 01:42 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=LandrySlice;733714]Look for the Texans to go to the air alot more against our soft zones. My guess is that we will win a close game by a field goal. I'm a little drunk right now, so I dont have any business posting, but I did it anyways! HOUSTON... SUCK MY JAGON![/quote]

thats ok i am always drunk when i am awake

redskinjim 09-15-2010 01:47 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=firstdown;733760]WOW I was just looking up how many yards Dallas ran on us and noticed that LL had 17 tackles. I knew he had a good game but dammmmmmmm thats alot. If he stays on that pace he will be well over 200 for the year.[/quote]

wow i was suprised as reed douty about that

saden1 09-15-2010 01:49 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
Arian Foster ain't sh*t....I'm not worried about him.

firstdown 09-15-2010 01:51 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=Mattyk;733761]They averaged 5 yards a pop, while I don't think they "ran all over us" but still, the run D needs to be tightened up.[/quote]

I did not notice the yards per run but it seem as like the past couple of years we let teams move the ball but when they get around the 30 yard line our D plays really tight. Not sure if that is by design but it is a trend.

kdogg3270 09-15-2010 01:51 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=Mattyk;733694]Probably just their week one gameplan more than anything, play smashmouth and keep the ball out of Manning's hands. No doubt they want to run, but I doubt they keep up that run to pass ratio all season.[/quote]

we should establish our running game more, and keep the ball away from Houston's high powered attack. Then our playaction, across the middle stuff will work.

Dirtbag59 09-15-2010 01:55 PM

re: It's F'ing Houston week!
 
[quote=saden1;733834]He waisted all the passes on Sellers. It really is time to cut Mike Sellers. He can't run block, he can't pass block, and he can't catch the f'ing ball. Worthless.[/quote]

Keiland Williams is our best pass catching back. I think thats why he got 5-7 snaps on Sunday night. Another interesting fact is that he was a 5 star recruit in high school. Scouts say he has all the talent in the world, but got buried in LSU's backfield. Oh well, wouldn't be the first time an SEC school misused an offensive talent.


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