Broncos WR Kenny McKinley found dead
 

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DENVER - Denver Broncos wide receiver Kenny McKinley was found dead from an apparent suicide, sources tell FOX31 News.

The body of McKinley, 23, was found in Arapahoe County. No further details were immediately available.

FOX31's Josina Anderson was the first to report the news.

McKinley, a fifth round pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, had struggled to stay healthy during his two years with the Broncos. Limited to kick returns, he was placed on injury reserve with a knee injury in 2009.

He was also placed on injury reserve prior to the start of the 2010 regular season.

McKinley is the third Broncos player to die a sudden death in the past four years. On New Year's Day 2007, cornerback Darrent Williams was killed in a drive-by shooting in downtown Denver. In Feb. 2007, running back Damien Nash, 24, collapsed and died during a charity basketball game.

McKinley, a native of Baker, Louisiana, was a standout player at South Carolina and climbed into the SEC record books with 207 receptions, the third-most in conference history, according to NFL.com. He also became just the 12th player in league history to collect more than 2,700 receiving yards.

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That is crazy, and such a waste of a life. I do not understand suicide. Never have, and I really think it is the most cowardly thing you could do.

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Feel for his family though, thoughts and prayers are with them.

He was a good player at South Carolina, I remember he was lights out.

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What could poses a man (other than not being able to stay healthy) with an NFL career to kill themselves?

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This guy was my age.. 23 and on a NFL roster with a bright future.. Pretty odd but RIP young man

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so sad to hear this

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[quote=pg86;736796]What could poses a man (other than not being able to stay healthy) with an NFL career to kill themselves?[/quote]

Money is just an end to gaining "utility". Sometimes just having a lot of money does not necessarily translate into "utility".

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;736794]Feel for his family though, thoughts and prayers are with them.

He was a good player at South Carolina, I remember he was[B] lights out[/B].[/quote]

So basically your saying he was dead on?

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RIP. Tough on his family, but also on the Bronco's org. Can't imagine what they're going thru

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[quote=SBXVII;736810]So basically your saying he was dead on?[/quote]

That is just wrong

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[quote=SBXVII;736810]So basically your saying he was dead on?[/quote]

Too soon.:Smoker:

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Hell if I didn't care about some of my family there's no telling if I would've thought about it. Troubled minds never get better when they fester alone. I hope it didn't have anything to do with his career, but I also hope that it wasn't relationship related or anything.

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Stay classy folks.

How would you all have reacted to these kinds of jokes right after the death of Sean Taylor?

Obviously, he was a troubled soul. May he now rest in peace.

And may his family members find their own peace...

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Yeah it's kinda appalling to hear jokes about a guy who took his own life, especially on the day he was found dead. I'd hope we'd have more respect than that around here. What if it was your family member who just committed suicide, and one of us came on here and made a joke about it.

Have some respect for the dead. Hopefully Kenny McKinley is in a better place now. R.I.P.

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I was not joking. Watching him play for SC was exciting. I just find suicide appaling, is all. I am sure he left family and friends behind that will surely miss him and always wonder what they could have done to help avoid this.

T- I would think that a man his age, with his opportunity, and talent level that this was some kind of personal relationship breakdown. There is a chance of a mental disorder but you would think someone wheather it be a college coach or medical staff or the NFL would have found something to that affect.

I respect the dead and hope for his families sake that they are ok, but I have always had deep issues with suicide.

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[quote=mooby;736899]Yeah it's kinda appalling to hear jokes about a guy who took his own life, especially on the day he was found dead. I'd hope we'd have more respect than that around here. What if it was your family member who just committed suicide, and one of us came on here and made a joke about it.

Have some respect for the dead. Hopefully Kenny McKinley is in a better place now. R.I.P.[/quote]

Sometimes below the footsteps of life beats being in it for some. I view it mostly as untimely and greatly unfortunate.

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I have been around this action and seen it destroy families and become contagious to a group of friends. 3 of them did it.

I ended up dating a girl for 7 years whose fiance had hung himself. When I broke up with her, she tried to kill herself in our aprtment when I was asleep. Horrible memories. I know I need to work on being sensitive to the situation, but having been close to it and close to finding someone I loved very much dead, I still don't have sympathy for the ones doing it. I do for the families and friends left behind, but not for the individual....

I am sorry if I offended anyone.

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When I was reading some of the comments I was kind of shocked. I could not agree any more with you or mooby.

Folks have an ounce of pride and respect. I know thats a lot to ask from some.

Anyway, RIP. Good luck to the family.


[quote=sportscurmudgeon;736897]Stay classy folks.

How would you all have reacted to these kinds of jokes right after the death of Sean Taylor?

Obviously, he was a troubled soul. May he now rest in peace.

And may his family members find their own peace...[/quote]

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Sad story, really sad. RIP.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;736910]

T- I would think that a man his age, with his opportunity, and talent level that this was some kind of personal relationship breakdown. There is a chance of a mental disorder but you would think someone wheather it be a college coach or medical staff or the NFL would have found something to that affect.
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That's just it people this troubled hide it.This young man had issues that he thought nobody could help him with.Think about it ...he was so troubled he thought this was the only way to deal with it.Suicide is thought about more then people will admit as a Professor of mine once said ..."everyone" will think about commiting suicide at least one time durnig their life,maybe when they were young or in Mid life or in Old age ,maybe it's only for a split second but the thought accrues to all of us at one time or another.

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[quote=tootergray34;736801]so sad to hear this[/quote]

Me too. That team and town just have had devastating losses. Goodell should make some sort addition to the rookie symposium or have more IDK to prevent or counsel these young men. I hope their families find peace.


Just any death in the NFL takes me back to Sean.

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[quote=Dread-Skin;736996]Me too. That team and town just have had devastating losses. Goodell should make some sort addition to the rookie symposium or have more IDK to prevent or counsel these young men. I hope their families find peace.


Just any death in the NFL takes me back to Sean.[/quote]

Sorry to hear. The NFL cannot cover everything and its not like this is happening year after year. I'd say drinking and driving is a bigger problem in the NFL.
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Sad, the circumstances of his passing make it even sadder. My prayers go out to the McKinley family and friends. May his soul RIP.

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When a person comes to a crossroads where the choice is suicide or life, to view that as cowardly would be an inhumane statement. If you had a loved one that was so depressed that the only alternative they could see is suicide, would you not have some compassion? Sure you would.

There is nothing cowardly about suicide or the depression associated with it, far from it. It’s from a sense of hopelessness that people consider suicide. Those that act upon it have not perpetrated a cowardly act, they are acting on emotions out of control.

23, just really beginning to start life. RIP McKinley. Condolences to the family and friends.

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So sad. During my freshman year of college one of my close childhood friends took his own life. It was so gut-wrenching and terribly difficult to deal with. Suicide is a baffling and tragic act.

As an SEC guy, my Gators had to face Kenny McKinley every year when he was at South Carolina. Heck of a football player.

This is horrible tragedy. I hope his family and friends find some peace. RIP Kenny.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;736897]Stay classy folks.

How would you all have reacted to these kinds of jokes right after the death of Sean Taylor?

Obviously, he was a troubled soul. May he now rest in peace.

And may his family members find their own peace...[/quote]

Yes we definitly need to stay classy, but my joke about being "dead on" was a joke in reference to what appeared to be a pun from the person I quoted. It was not slamming the player.

In regards to Sean Taylor.... I really didn't care that people made jokes. What bothered me more was the fact that other players as well as fans attacked Tayler's character after he was dead and called him a thug.

Again I didn't feel I attacked this player personally or his character for which he is not around in order to defend himself. Clearly he was troubled and we might not ever know why.

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[quote=ashvirtually;737025]When a person comes to a crossroads where the choice is suicide or life, to view that as cowardly would be an inhumane statement. If you had a loved one that was so depressed that the only alternative they could see is suicide, would you not have some compassion? Sure you would.

There is nothing cowardly about suicide or the depression associated with it, far from it. It’s from a sense of hopelessness that people consider suicide. Those that act upon it have not perpetrated a cowardly act, they are acting on emotions out of control.

23, just really beginning to start life. RIP McKinley. Condolences to the family and friends.[/quote]

For those who are contemplating or have attempted in the past I have an over abundance of compassion for. I'll do almost anything neccessary to help the individual in order to keep them from doing it.

However, thats where my compassion stops. I feel everyone is on earth to learn a lesson to improve themselves.... kinda like school. Every year you go to school -the more you learn, to decide your going to commit suicide is like quiting on school or giving up. bailing out. I don't feel compassion for someone who has committed suicide just like I don't feel compassion for someone who decided to quit school after 8th grade. God had a plan and they bailed.

I do have compassion for the families though. No one should have to go through having a family member do that.

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[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;736793][B]That is crazy, and such a waste of a life. I do not understand suicide. Never have, and I really think it is the most cowardly thing you could do.[/[/B]QUOTE]


Agree, my heart goes out to his family.

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My comment about "lights out" was a wrong use of words. I in no mean ment it as a pun. It was a statement of fact as to how he played at South Carolina. I chose a poor word choice.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;737088][QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;736793][B]That is crazy, and such a waste of a life. I do not understand suicide. Never have, and I really think it is the most cowardly thing you could do.[/[/B]QUOTE]


Agree, my heart goes out to his family.[/quote]


....don't mistake cowardly for distressed.......they are two completely different things.

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In fact, I think a lot of times, in the eyes of the person committing suicide they see themselves taking on a heroic or at least courageous choice, for it is better for the world to be without them than with them. Depression is a terrible thing, it distorts reality, causing the depressed person to perceive the whole world in a skewed manner that feeds the depression. I would never call suicide cowardly, I do however understand that it is nearly always incredibly crippling to those who are left behind.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/21/police-report-mckinley-was-depressed/]Police report: McKinley was depressed | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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You think?

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[quote=SBXVII;737062]For those who are contemplating or have attempted in the past I have an over abundance of compassion for. I'll do almost anything neccessary to help the individual in order to keep them from doing it.

However, thats where my compassion stops. I feel everyone is on earth to learn a lesson to improve themselves.... kinda like school. Every year you go to school -the more you learn, to decide your going to commit suicide is like quiting on school or giving up. bailing out. I don't feel compassion for someone who has committed suicide just like I don't feel compassion for someone who decided to quit school after 8th grade. God had a plan and they bailed.

I do have compassion for the families though. No one should have to go through having a family member do that.[/quote]None of these concepts of which you speak are either understood or available to a suicidal person. A person who is suicidal is [I][B]sick[/B][/I] as much as any patient with cancer or diabetes or AIDS. It is not about "bailing out", and God doesn't enter into the equation. When you reach that point of depression and hopelessness you are prisoner to emotions run amok and in need of help you can not give yourself; it's not about bucking up and rolling with life's punches.

It is about an illness that can be treated with therapy, medicine or a combination of both, and the analogy comparing it to dropping out of school is ridiculous.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;737140]In fact, I think a lot of times, in the eyes of the person committing suicide they see themselves taking on a heroic or at least courageous choice, for it is better for the world to be without them than with them.[/quote]


The last thing someone suffering from depression feels like is .............."heroic".

[QUOTE=Giantone;737780]The last thing someone suffering from depression feels like is .............."heroic".[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily. A friend of mine lost his dad to suicide. The dad felt he could not give his wife and kids what they want, and saw suicide as the only way he could provide for them through a life insurance policy. He expressed a belief that this was the only way he could make sure they would be ok. The family would rather of had their dad, and an outsider would not have seen it as a "heroic" gesture, but the dad in his depression did.

The thing about severe depression is that it so warps a persons reality that they are no longer thinking in the same terms as a functioning person. Thus what a non depressed person may see as "cowardly" the severely depressed person sees as the only option. At that point the brain can begin building the belief that this is not only an acceptable option it is in fact the best option. Once a depressed person believes it is the best option the brain can take the step to believe that it is a heroic gesture.

I am not saying every suicide has that as a motivation, but I know with a certainty that it can be.

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Having known a couple of people who have committed suicide I can say I cannot ever understand what they did. I do not think it is cowardice. For some people they must get to such a dark and desperate place that this is their only option.

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[url=http://www.nmha.org/go/state-ranking]Mental Health America: Ranking America's Mental Health: An Analysis of Depression Across the States[/url]
I guess I am going to put off that trip to Alaska..........

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from the article:

[QUOTE]Age-adjusted suicide rates were also examined since suicide is the most significant negative outcome of depression.[/QUOTE]

somehow this statement, and the coldness of the pc speak, just upsets me. I know what they are saying and obviously it's not an incorrect statement for a statistical report like that, but still ... ugh.

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Woody Paige shares a page of his life and how it relates to this story:

[url=http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_16149407]Paige: We must learn from McKinley's death - The Denver Post[/url]