Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

Neither Brian nor TJ is getting much playing time and they are both unhappy with their situations. Westbrook has only been in on four plays all season. It seems to me that we could use both of these guys.

If we beat the Packers and it starts to look like we may be in the race for the NFC East title, does it make any sense to you to try to pry these players away from their current teams by trading players or low draft picks?

I think they might be able to help us make a playoff run and I also think that anytime a team has a shot at the playoffs they should consider making any moves that would help them get there.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

Neither guy is a long term solution. I'd rather stick with what we've got than to keep giving up draft picks.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=Mattyk;744813]Neither guy is a long term solution. [B]I'd rather stick with what we've got[/B] than to keep giving up draft picks.[/quote]

They won't make the difference for a SB run, sooo let's stick with what we got and figure out for sure who can do what.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=Mattyk;744813]Neither guy is a long term solution. I'd rather stick with what we've got than to keep giving up draft picks.[/quote]

We're talking playoffs here, Matty. Playoffs! You know you want it.

What if we could trade players who don't seem to fit here for them?

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;744811[B]]Neither Brian nor TJ is getting much playing time and they are both unhappy with their situations.[/B] Westbrook has only been in on four plays all season. It seems to me that we could use both of these guys.

If we beat the Packers and it starts to look like we may be in the race for the NFC East title, does it make any sense to you to try to pry these players away from their current teams by trading players or low draft picks?

I think they might be able to help us make a playoff run and I also think that anytime a team has a shot at the playoffs they should consider making any moves that would help them get there.[/quote]

They should get better at making career descions and should have come to play here in Washington where they should have known they would have been valueable on a team without many weapons.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;744816]We're talking playoffs here, Matty. Playoffs! You know you want it.

What if we could trade players who don't seem to fit here for them?[/quote]

TJ choose not to come here and he just caught the game winning TD against Pittsburgh. He isnt going anywhere.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;744821][B]TJ choose not to come here[/B] .. He isnt going anywhere.[/quote]

He would have done GREAT things here, but he's acheived great seasons already- he wants a ring, his contract is already paid in full. The Ravens LOVE the draft- maybe if the Skins offered a HIGH pick before the trade deadline they could wait for Stallworth to come back from injury but they also traded Clayton and with Heap being injured so often they got TJ cheap and its great depth for them unless we over pay and thats not in the Skins best interest.

Time for Galloway to pull it in, Banks to fill it like Dante Hall, and Armstrong to fullfill his destiny as our #2 receiver (fingers crossed).

WR depth definately took a hit today releasing DT.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=Dread-Skin;744878]He would have done GREAT things here, but he's acheived great seasons already- he wants a ring, his contract is already paid in full. The Ravens LOVE the draft- maybe if the Skins offered a HIGH pick before the trade deadline they could wait for Stallworth to come back from injury but they also traded Clayton and with Heap being injured so often they got TJ cheap and its great depth for them unless we over pay and thats not in the Skins best interest.

Time for Galloway to pull it in, Banks to fill it like Dante Hall, and Armstrong to fullfill his destiny as our #2 receiver (fingers crossed).

WR depth definately took a hit today releasing DT.[/quote]

A WR with only straight line speed is not that valuable. You do realize that Simpson also has 4.4 speed for KRs?

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;744821]TJ choose not to come here and he just caught the game winning TD against Pittsburgh. He isnt going anywhere.[/quote]

Per the Baltimore Sun, he's not happy about his role and his playing time.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=Mattyk;744813]Neither guy is a long term solution. I'd rather stick with what we've got than to keep giving up draft picks.[/quote]

Gotta agree here. That would just be some of the same old patch up type moves we have all come to hate over the years.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

We could have had both guys before without giving up anything. I can't imagine why we would give up something for them now. If we wanted Housh, the time to ante up and get him has passed.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

If we give up any more draft picks we'll be down to a one pick draft.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;744811]Neither Brian nor TJ is getting much playing time and they are both unhappy with their situations. Westbrook has only been in on four plays all season. It seems to me that we could use both of these guys.

If we beat the Packers and it starts to look like we may be in the race for the NFC East title, does it make any sense to you to try to pry these players away from their current teams by trading players or low draft picks?

I think they might be able to help us make a playoff run and I also think that anytime a team has a shot at the playoffs they should consider making any moves that would help them get there.[/quote]


Matty is right, why waste anything on stop gap measures? I think that is what the FO is all about. Why did they just release DT? Simple, he wasn't in the long term plans for the team. Kelly is probably a goner next offseason as well. Too many good NFL WR prospects coming out next season and the next. Damn Ohio St alone has two potentials in Posey and Sanzenbacher and those guys are probably considered middle of the pack with what is coming out.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;744892]Per the Baltimore Sun, he's not happy about his role and his playing time.[/quote]

Well he's an idiot. He knew that Boldin was there, I can't remember if Clayton was there or not, but you also have Mason. So best case scenario, he would be competing for being #2, worst case he'd be #3. Had he come here or some other WR-starved team, he would have done much better in regards to playing time. Do I want him on the team? I don't know, but I think it is a bit ridiculous that he's complaining.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

I know there pros but at this point it might take them to long to pick up the system & there not along term solution IMO.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=Lotus;744900]We could have had both guys before without giving up anything. I can't imagine why we would give up something for them now. If we wanted Housh, the time to ante up and get him has passed.[/quote]

The Skins wanted him, and so did the Raiders, but he chose to go to the Ravens because they're a better organization with a realistic chance of winning it all.

Can't really blame him. We're just not a place free agents want to play. For now at least.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=44Deezel;744963]The Skins wanted him, and so did the Raiders, but he chose to go to the Ravens because they're a better organization with a realistic chance of winning it all.

Can't really blame him. We're just not a place free agents want to play. For now at least.[/quote]

Yes, I understand that. But the Ravens got him for about $800k. Perhaps if Danny had offered a lot more money (like $3 mil.), he would have changed his mind.

I am not arguing that we should have offered him $3 mil. My point is that there were things that we could have done to get him for free rather than spending draft picks.

Re: Brian Westbrook and TJ Houshmandzadeh?
 

[quote=Lotus;745045]Yes, I understand that. But the Ravens got him for about $800k. Perhaps if Danny had offered a lot more money (like $3 mil.), he would have changed his mind.

I am not arguing that we should have offered him $3 mil. My point is that there were things that we could have done to get him for free rather than spending draft picks.[/quote]

He was already guaranteed $7.5M in his contract with the Seahawks. He was going to make that much no matter which team he signed with, so money wasn't an issue with him.

I'm sure that the Ravens' playoff prospects played a large part in his decision. He also said that he was very impressed by how much the Ravens showed him that they wanted him when he received phone calls from the HC, GM, and even the owner of the team. We could have done that much, at least. Maybe we did.

I think that it's likely that they oversold him on what his role would be. On the other hand, all he had to do was to look at their roster to see that they were so deep at WR that he might not see the field that much.

Anyway, the whole idea I had of possibly trading for him and Brian Westbrook was that would only do so if we continue to win in the short term and it starts to look like we might be able to win the division with a little more firepower on offense. That would have to be coupled with a continued lack of playing time and building dissatisfaction on the part of those two players, maybe helped along by a little complaining in the Press by them. Then, we might be able to get one or both of them by trading marginal players or future low round draft picks. Who knows, they might even get released if they aggravate their teams' management enough.

Geez, that idea is starting to sound far-fetched. Maybe this scenario is a bit more realistic: a tornado will pick them up and deposit them at Redskins Park (Oz) where they'll be welcomed by the munchkins (Dan Snyder and Brandon Banks) and play happily ever after.