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SFREDSKIN 10-13-2010 01:26 PM

Merriman goes to IR
 
I thought this was interesting by Adam S.

Chargers placed linebacker Shawne Merriman on Reserve-Injured with a calf injury.

This means Merriman must be released by the team when he becomes healthy. Career in SD over.

Distinction to be made here: Shawne Merriman can play again this season for another team. But he is finished in San Diego.

Once Merriman is healthy, which could be in a couple weeks, Chargers must release him and he is free to sign with another team this season.

skinsfaninok 10-13-2010 01:31 PM

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He's a bum, if he wasn't ever on HGH he wouldn't have done anything

freddyg12 10-13-2010 01:32 PM

Re: Merriman goes to IR
 
If not for Alexander playing so well, I think Merriman would be worth a look since he's played as a 3-4 OLB his whole career. I think the guy is about done though, and I bet Shanny doesn't want a dude like him.

Sad for the chargers' fans that their big names are gradually leavin town.

Chico23231 10-13-2010 01:41 PM

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Stay away from Merriman...Danny Boy Im looking at you!

12thMan 10-13-2010 01:46 PM

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Yeah, I think it's safe to say the PED or HGH has pretty much ruined was starting to look like a brilliant career. That said, I think he still has some NFL years left, but his lights out days are probably over.

warpaint 10-13-2010 01:53 PM

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I wouldnt mind giving him a look, he might have a couple of years left in him.

InsaneBoost 10-13-2010 01:58 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;747402]Stay away from Merriman...Danny Boy Im looking at you![/quote]

Don't you mean Shanahan and Allen? If Snyder was still doing things, I think Peppers would be wearing a Redskins uniform this season.

skinsfan69 10-13-2010 02:00 PM

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You guys saying HGH is the reason his career is going in the tank have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have any proof of this?

Riggo44 10-13-2010 02:01 PM

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If he’s healthy I would defiantly take a look at it. I think Shanahan could keep him in check. The guy was a beast and I don’t think was only because of HGH.

freddyg12 10-13-2010 02:02 PM

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[quote=12thMan;747404]Yeah, I think it's safe to say the PED or HGH has pretty much ruined was starting to look like a brilliant career. That said, I think he still has some NFL years left, but his [B]lights out days are probably over[/B].[/quote]

Definitely. It looks like his career could be over. Kinda like another #56, he relied on speed. Could he adjust to being a run stopper even if healthy?

Something tells me he's done.

aceinthehouse 10-13-2010 02:03 PM

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Can he be worse than Andre Carter at LB?
Guy is great as a pss rushing End,but can't cover in the 3-4 to save his life.

I believe that was one of merriman's strengths.
Yes,he's a sack machine (or was in 05,06 and 07...but i believe he can cover fairly well)

We are now a 3-4 team and we need to do everything we can to have the absolute best 4 LB's on the field at the same time.

Remember the Saints when they had Sam Mills,Ricky Jackson, Vaugh Johnson and Pat Swilling.
Hell,they had their own knickname called "[B]The Dome Patrol[/B]"

We have that in Orakpo
McIntosh can certainly be a part of this as well. He's playing very well.
Love Fletcher,but how long does he have..1 yr..maybe 2? (We need to find his replacement)
Alexander is great,but for how long...the dude was an O-lineman and D-Lineman.

Merriman is only 26...but maybe his HGH was why he was good..who knows?
But if he can be had for cheap...You have to at least inquire about it imo...

MTK 10-13-2010 02:06 PM

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For "only" 26 he seems awfully worn out. He needs to get healthy first and come back humble and ready to play for a minimal deal. Nobody is going to give him a big contract until he proves his worth again.

KLHJ2 10-13-2010 02:09 PM

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Merriman is a one trick pony. The Skins already have linebackers that can rush the passer. Merriman is not known for his coverage skills or playing in space. He would be a possible upgrade over Carter in pass rushing ablity but I am not so sure that he is better than Alexander in coverage.

A smart team would use their due diligence and at least look at him, but I believe that they would confirm what I have just said after that look. In the end I do not think that he will be in Washington even though he is from Upper Marlboro.

saden1 10-13-2010 02:09 PM

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He's 26...if he can get healthy I would add him to my team in a heartbeat. Now if Shanahan thinks he needs to commit to being a pro then I don't want him.

mlmpetert 10-13-2010 02:25 PM

Re: Merriman goes to IR
 
[quote=aceinthehouse;747415]Can he be worse than Andre Carter at LB?
Guy is great as a pss rushing End,but can't cover in the 3-4 to save his life.

I believe that was one of merriman's strengths.
Yes,he's a sack machine (or was in 05,06 and 07...but i believe he can cover fairly well)

We are now a 3-4 team and we need to do everything we can to have the absolute best 4 LB's on the field at the same time.

Remember the Saints when they had Sam Mills,Ricky Jackson, Vaugh Johnson and Pat Swilling.
Hell,they had their own knickname called "[B]The Dome Patrol[/B]"

We have that in Orakpo
McIntosh can certainly be a part of this as well. He's playing very well.
Love Fletcher,but how long does he have..1 yr..maybe 2? (We need to find his replacement)
Alexander is great,but for how long...the dude was an O-lineman and D-Lineman.

Merriman is only 26...but maybe his HGH was why he was good..who knows?
But if he can be had for cheap...You have to at least inquire about it imo...[/quote]

Yeah Carter is the first one i thought about. This is definitly Carter's last year in DC unless we switch back to a 4-3, he made a no-trade clause for a reason - so that he can pick where he wants to be and it aint here anymore. Carter hasnt really been playing much after Houston this season anyways.

I dont see anyreason not to persue Merriman, were in a new system and any vet that can fit in the role should be considered.

Defensewins 10-13-2010 02:31 PM

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[quote=mlmpetert;747424][B]Yeah Carter is the first one i thought about. This is definitly Carter's last year in DC unless we switch back to a 4-3,[/B] he made a no-trade clause for a reason - so that he can pick where he wants to be and it aint here anymore. Carter hasnt really been playing much after Houston this season anyways.

I dont see anyreason not to persue Merriman, were in a new system and any vet that can fit in the role should be considered.[/quote]

Even if we were to switch back to 4-3, which will not, it is time to get rid of Carter. In the 4-3 Carter was a liability in the running game against power running teams that had a strong OT. Only good at rushing the passer. That is all.

MTK 10-13-2010 02:32 PM

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Carter has been playing DE quite a bit the last 2 weeks since Alexander took over at OLB, and since we started mixing in more 4-3 looks.

BleedBurgundy 10-13-2010 02:35 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;747426]Carter has been playing DE quite a bit the last 2 weeks since Alexander took over at OLB, and since we started mixing in more 4-3 looks.[/quote]

Been noticing 4-3 looks more myself recently.

SmootSmack 10-13-2010 02:41 PM

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At this point, do people still wish we selected Merriman over Rogers because it looks like Merriman has become a broken shell of what he was just a couple of years ago

Chico23231 10-13-2010 02:43 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;747418]For "only" 26 he seems awfully worn out. He needs to get healthy first and [B]come back humble [/B]and ready to play for a minimal deal. Nobody is going to give him a big contract until he proves his worth again.[/quote]


Thats key. I wouldnt want him here. Injuries, Steriods and to be associated with Tila Tequila says to me stay the eff away from this nut case. 26 is young, but just getting healthy doesnt do it for me. He needs to grow leaps and bounds from a maturity standpoint.

SFREDSKIN 10-13-2010 02:45 PM

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This is what he had to say recently and yes, I would give him a chance at only 26. A change of scenery could do wonders, just look at LT who everyone thought was washed out.

# Merriman: "I'm ready for the next chapter in my career and I am excited about the opportunity to continue my journey with a new team.”

# Shawne Merriman: "I'm approaching this as an opportunity to grow as a player and to bring my leadership, talents to a new organization."

Monkeydad 10-13-2010 02:58 PM

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We have no need for an empty juice box.

bigdaddy2348 10-13-2010 03:52 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;747402]Stay away from Merriman...Danny Boy Im looking at you![/quote]

Im looking at you!:nono:

skinsfaninok 10-13-2010 04:15 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;747428]At this point, do people still wish we selected Merriman over Rogers because it looks like Merriman has become a broken shell of what he was just a couple of years ago[/quote]

More like Broken body lol.. Makes u wonder how good he would have been if he didn't use roids?

SirClintonPortis 10-13-2010 04:18 PM

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He won't look good here because we don't have a nose tackle here.

GTripp0012 10-13-2010 04:28 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;747468]He won't look good here because we don't have a nose tackle here.[/quote]How would you explain our linebackers both looking good and actually being statistically productive even though, as you correctly point out, we've now struggled at the nose tackle position in four of five games?

GTripp0012 10-13-2010 04:36 PM

Re: Merriman goes to IR
 
[quote=Defensewins;747425]Even if we were to switch back to 4-3, which will not, it is time to get rid of Carter. In the 4-3 Carter was a liability in the running game against power running teams that had a strong OT. Only good at rushing the passer. That is all.[/quote]Well, strong against the run in a one-gap scheme, but the wider that gap is, the more likely Carter always was to miss his responsibility on counter/cutback/reverse action. It really was something teams have schemed against him for a long time.

Carter has always been a tough guy to block. Too quick for tackles, too strong for tight ends.

Valuable player as long as he still has his pass rushing skills, but he's at the age where pass rushers decline. He's a below average player if you sap away his speed rushing ability.

GTripp0012 10-13-2010 04:37 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;747410]You guys saying HGH is the reason his career is going in the tank have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have any proof of this?[/quote]No kidding. I couldn't agree more.

Ruhskins 10-13-2010 04:45 PM

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Whatever team Merriman goes to next, will sign him for cheap. He has a LOT to prove, especially given his steroids past. Given all of this and his ties to the area, I wouldn't mind seeing him here under those conditions. As people say, a change of scenery can help a player out and I wouldn't mind having a player with 3-4 experience.

SFREDSKIN 10-13-2010 05:18 PM

Re: Merriman goes to IR
 
[quote=Ruhskins;747490]Whatever team Merriman goes to next, will sign him for cheap. He has a LOT to prove, especially given his steroids past. Given all of this and his ties to the area, I wouldn't mind seeing him here under those conditions. As people say, a change of scenery can help a player out and I wouldn't mind having a player with 3-4 experience.[/quote]

His story could be like Landry's where lots of people, (including myself) were down on him and look at him now. Merriman in my opinion at a low cost salary is worth the gamble. By the way I use to manufacture/purify HGH at a Biotech company here in the Bay area back in the 80's and I'm sure that our product is the one finding it's way around in the black market. An ex-employee got busted a few years ago by the FBI for stealing and selling it at a gym.

GridIron26 10-13-2010 05:58 PM

Re: Merriman goes to IR
 
[quote=Ruhskins;747490]Whatever team Merriman goes to next, will sign him for cheap. He has a LOT to prove, especially given his steroids past. Given all of this and his ties to the area, I wouldn't mind seeing him here under those conditions. As people say, a change of scenery can help a player out and I wouldn't mind having a player with 3-4 experience.[/quote]

I would not mind giving him a chance, as well.. We will lose nothing if we get him for cheap..

LavaRnChad 10-13-2010 06:05 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;747399]He's a bum, if he wasn't ever on HGH he wouldn't have done anything[/quote]

Ol' Jerry Jones really looks smart for choosing D-Ware over Merriman despite his draft status.

skins89moss 10-14-2010 06:24 AM

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Who knows Merriman is from Maryland maybe it could be a coming home party just like D-Hall. I think Merriman is a Redskins fan and if we signed him it would be a contract with incentives based on playing time and production. I hope we give Jeremy Jarmon more playing time this season.

2BIG2BSKINNY 10-14-2010 07:41 AM

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I read the whole thread and think both opinions are true...He is done, but may be worth a look for depth... At a low cost we can pick up a system backer. Think about it! Is he better than Henson and Wilson...maybe. I think one man gang is going to be good but he is not protected from injury...Then Carter would be at OLB!

Get him if he is healthy and see what you got... low cost maybe high reward. At least he knows the 3-4 defense!

Monkeydad 10-14-2010 09:34 AM

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If he's willing to be a role player or backup at first and work his way up the depth chart...with no attention given to his past accomplishments (none lately), then sure...sign him and see what he can do.

Shanahan won't give him a free pass. If he works his way back to his early-career form and cracks the starting lineup...GREAT. If not, don't let him on the field as a liability.

He's only 26, right?

MTK 10-14-2010 09:36 AM

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I heard he's only 26.

Chico23231 10-14-2010 09:37 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;747595]I heard he's only 26.[/quote]

acts like 17...thats a problem

SFREDSKIN 10-14-2010 10:56 AM

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-rise-and-fall-of-Shawne-Merriman?urn=nfl-276809]The rise and fall of Shawne Merriman - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

CultBrennan59 10-14-2010 02:21 PM

Re: Merriman goes to IR
 
Shawn Merriman is a bust, simply because he was caught doing steroids, when he was at his best, he had taken steroids. When he was caught his sacks went down drastically. Now at 26, I feel he's kind of washed up.

We really don't have a need for him.

mooby 10-14-2010 02:50 PM

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Do we really need proof that he was juicing? I mean come on, he was suspended for using steroids back in the day. And this was after there were rumors that he was juicing. And ever since then, he's had knee/other injuries, and has become a shell of his former self.

I mean what more proof do guys need? You want us to go to his house and find the empty needles? Doubtful he has those anymore.


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