Graham Gano has to Go !!
 

Graham Gano has to be replaced --

The guy is 13 for 17 and among the worst in the league in terms of accuracy. He missed one from 37 yards out today that we could have really used. He missed a kick that could have won the game against Green Bay and he missed 2 in the game against Houston, one of which would have won the game in OT.

In my opinion, we need to look at picking up a kicker and releasing this guy because he is the opposite of clutch and I don't trust him with the game on the line.

edit: in the offseason -- I would agree that there aren't a whole lot of options to choose from

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He is still better than Shitsam

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Word.

However, I think we should consider whether the holder is screwing things up as well.

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It is an issue that needs to be addressed.

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It seems like from the mid 30's back he just aint gonna hit it.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;751749]Graham Gano has to be replaced --

The guy is 13 for 17 and among the worst in the league in terms of accuracy. He missed one from 37 yards out today that we could have really used. He missed a kick that could have won the game against Green Bay and he missed 2 in the game against Houston, one of which would have won the game in OT.

In my opinion, we need to look at picking up a kicker and releasing this guy because he is the opposite of clutch and I don't trust him with the game on the line.[/quote]

Would you rather have Suisham? On that kick that hit the goalpost, I mean I can forgive him for that. That was extremely close, I mean one more foot to the right or 1 foot higher and it's good. It hit it at the highest point possible, and besides winds are a huge factor in that. He hit one earlier from further out and the wind was a factor in that one too.

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[quote=mooby;751763]Would you rather have Suisham? On that kick that hit the goalpost, I mean I can forgive him for that. That was extremely close, I mean one more foot to the right or 1 foot higher and it's good. It hit it at the highest point possible, and besides winds are a huge factor in that. He hit one earlier from further out and the wind was a factor in that one too.[/quote]

That's like saying something smells better than s***. Not many professional kickers are going to be worse that Suisham.

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Who would be out there to replace him?

He seems ok at times, and just off at times. I just don't know who you would have to replace him.

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I second this, he sucks. We need to draft the best bad ass college kicker in the 5or 6th round this draft, and make him a redskin staple. Given our history for kickers (counting EVERY kicker all the way back after Lohmiller) the odds do not look especially good for us. It definietly is an area that needs addressing though......

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Shayne Graham was available, but I don't know how much of an upgrade he would be. However, given how close these games have been, it doesn't help having a guy that can't make a FG from beyond 40 yds. That being said, I think our long snapper sucks too.

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Guys..need to remember
He's still basically a rookie..
He did play at the end of last season as an official rookie,but I like him.

Yes,he's missed his share of kicks,but he's also hit some big ones too.
I actually think he's opposite of Squeezim'...

He misses the kicks that are not killers...and makes the clutch kicks...

Like today...he made the clutch 45 yarder to go up 17-14,but missed his 2nd try after a doink...but really,he was not a killer because if they kick a fg...we are in OT

If they score a TD..we lose anyway by 1

Remember...he made the big kick against the Texcans from 52...then was iced..that's no gimme

He makes the big kick against greenbay to win

No way would i dump a young kicker GUYS!! NO way!

We had a kicker on this squad a few years a go that missed his share of kicks as well..

By the name of David Akers..

No way do I give up on this young kid!
Were 4-3...enjoy it
go smoke a bowl or something

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Gano isn't all that bad, all kickers in the league miss FG's often, even the great ones, just look at Vinateri from last week missing two, and Kaeding missing 4 FGs in the chargers last playoff game. Hell even Hartley who kicked the saints to the super bowl got demoted this year..

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as much as i hated suisham wasn't he the best kicker in the league going into his epic collapse? i thought he was like 15-15, then went 2-6 on his rampage of suck, missing all clutch or game-winning kicks. no excuse and i'm glad he's gone, but i wouldn't say the guy was a fluke professional.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;751789]Guys..need to remember
He's still basically a rookie..
He did play at the end of last season as an official rookie,but I like him.

Yes,he's missed his share of kicks,but he's also hit some big ones too.
I actually think he's opposite of Squeezim'...

He misses the kicks that are not killers...and makes the clutch kicks...

Like today...he made the clutch 45 yarder to go up 17-14,but missed his 2nd try after a doink...but really,he was not a killer because if they kick a fg...we are in OT

If they score a TD..we lose anyway by 1

Remember...he made the big kick against the Texcans from 52...then was iced..that's no gimme

He makes the big kick against greenbay to win

No way would i dump a young kicker GUYS!! NO way!

We had a kicker on this squad a few years a go that missed his share of kicks as well..

By the name of David Akers..

No way do I give up on this young kid!
Were 4-3...enjoy it
go smoke a bowl or something[/quote]

Yeah im with you. I mean he isnt clutch or anything but at this point he seems better then anyone else out there. Plus hes the only one that has been able to send kick offs to the endzone consistently since Hall, witch to me is pretty important.

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Gano is young and has had different holders. In no way do I think he could be a Pro Bowl kicker, but cutting him now would be a knee jerk "fan" type of move that will not happen this season. Let's also keep in mind, he kicked the game winner against Green Bay, so let's cut him some slack.

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This is a horrible thread as Gano has been one of our more consistent performers this year, especially on kickoffs.

He's been below average on field goals, but he's hitting close to 70% on the year. That's not particularly great, but if you think field goal are supposed to be a 100% proposition, then you wouldn't need an offense to get into the end zone ever. Luckily, we don't, no matter how many times we're allowed to start at the 50 yard line.

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The wind was swirling pretty good out there today. I'd stick with him.

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Gano is solid... he's not going anywhere

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Where is Schneed with his "retarded thread" post?


:pffff:

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[quote=GTripp0012;751807]This is a horrible thread as Gano has been one of our more consistent performers this year, especially on kickoffs.

He's been below average on field goals, but he's hitting close to 70% on the year. That's not particularly great, but if you think field goal are supposed to be a 100% proposition, then you wouldn't need an offense to get into the end zone ever. Luckily, we don't, no matter how many times we're allowed to start at the 50 yard line.[/quote]

Have you seen the threads on here lately? This thread is actually quite awesome. Might have to sticky it

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the kid really hit the game winning 53 yd Fg against the texans.....keep him on!

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Sure, bring back Suisham. C'mon!! This guy is good, he's not perfect, he's better than any kicker we've had for a while or is available. Quick, sign John Carney, maybe Gary Anderson, Morten Andersen or Chip Lohmiller.

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Gano has been good on kickoffs. Pretty average with kicking field goals. Clutch kicking has been shaky. Id say we could improve this position, but there is noone out there worth grabbing now. Stick with him this season, coach him up and see if it improves.

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in my opinion the LS has been pushing the snaps left each time and it's been hard for a holder, even as experienced as hunter, to corral them bad boys.

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I mean, I don' think Gano has been great by any stretch...but on one of those misses (maybe two) the kick was blocked... Overall, I still feel alot more comfortable with him than Suisham... could the position be upgraded? Sure... but until he misses a close field goal that costs us a game, or a number of long ones that do... I'm thinking he's our best bet.

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[quote=tc2deuce;751891]the kid really hit the game winning 53 yd Fg against the texans.....keep him on![/quote]


Exactly. This is very easy to forget. In addition to that, he had a FG taken off the board this year when the Skins benefitted from a penalty. So his performance is much better than his stats indicate, particularly when you consider the snap-and-hold problems the Skins have had all year.

Regardless, this thread is as stupid as it is predictable. Every time a kicker misses an important field goal, you can rest assured that there will be a thread promoting his immediate termination from the team, with the underlying assumption that there's a reservoir of countless perfect kickers out there just waiting for a team to pick them up.

No one should make a comment that a kicker should be cut without suggesting who should take his place.

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Remeber Gano played in some rough wind yesterday, not excusing the miss, but he didn't shank it. Had there not been any wind it wouldve went in and we win 20-14 and there's no thread. A win is a win no matter how you look at it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;751807][B]This is a horrible thread[/B] [B]as Gano has been one of our more consistent performers this year, especially on kickoffs.[/B]

He's been below average on field goals, but he's hitting close to 70% on the year. That's not particularly great, but if you think field goal are supposed to be a 100% proposition, then you wouldn't need an offense to get into the end zone ever. Luckily, we don't, no matter how many times we're allowed to start at the 50 yard line.[/quote]

Agreed. I think that was just the second under 40 yarder than I can think of that he's missed & it was windy. The kid has come through big otherwise. Remember that 49 yarder late in the dalllas game?

The simple fact that Shanny will put him out there to kick over 50 yards says a lot.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;751754]He is still better than Shitsam[/quote]

I'm not sold on that yet.

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Getting rid of Gano,would be catastrophically stupid!
Thank god we have Shanny making the decisions and not Warpath GM's.

Do we really want a David Akers part deux?
I didn't think so...

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;751755]Word.

However, I think we should consider whether the holder is screwing things up as well.[/quote]

Sunberg can be blamed for at least 2 of his misses. The other was the crap-icing tactic after he nailed the first one from 52.


When Gano gets a good snap and hold, he's the best kicker we've had for ages. I don't get that nauseous feeling I got when Suisham trotted onto the field. I'm confident in Gano.

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If we lost the game yesterday, some of these "give the guy a break" posts would be different. Fact is the guy is missing makable field goals. He is in the NFL, those kicks are suppose to be good. Especially from 37 freaking yards. Those should be damn well automatic for NFL kickers. Hell, anything 45 and in seems to be good with GOOD kickers. I like the guys leg, but damn he is missing too many makable kicks. luckily the ones from yesterday and GB game didn't cost us. but the ones from the Texans game cost us. Didn't he miss one in the Dallas game too? I wish so desperately we could find a damn kicker that is a franchise kicker. Seems like every year we have the same problems with that part of the game. I dont know about you, but i get nervous when the guy kicks an extra point, not alone an actualy field goal.

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He's got a good leg and is pretty young, I would ride him out for the rest of the year at least. Not really any better options out there, just ask the Saints.

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[quote=Mattyk;752158] just ask the Saints.[/quote]

Or Chargers.

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I say keep him. I like that he can line up from > 45 yds and I don't have this feeling of "no way in hell he makes this kick" like i did with Squeez'em.

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[QUOTE]Gano feels 'confident'

With Sunday's failed attempt in the fourth quarter, place kicker Graham Gano has missed field goals in three straight games. However, Gano said he feels like he's kicking the ball better than ever.

"I think I'm more confident leaving this game than I have been," said Gano.

Gano nailed a 46-yarder in the second quarter and is 13 of 18 on the season. "I don't think I've hit a ball that well this season," Gano said. "I just think I keep getting better and better."

But the field goal the Redskins really needed came in the fourth quarter. Washington led by only three points and Gano could've given them a bit of breathing room. He trotted on the field for a 37-yarder and felt pretty good as the ball flew off his foot.

[B]"I hit it awesome," he said. "I hit it right off my foot. I thought, 'Oh, that's a good kick.' It was going right down the middle. The wind just took it and pushed it to the upright."
[/B]
It hit the left upright square, in fact, and fell to the ground. Wind was a factor all game. The official game summary noted that the wind was blowing 11 mph to the southwest, though that changed many times over the course of the afternoon.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/24/AR2010102402868.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]
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I agree, Gano is still the guy - at least for now. By all reports it was windy, and he's made 49 and 52 yarders (his first attempt) in the past. I like his confidence - I think that's almost as important as skill as a kicker. You've got to be able to take 100,000 eyes on you and fifty-two 300 pound men scowling at you in the locker room if you miss.

After all, he "hit it awesome".

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I dont know if it was going right down the middle. It looked more like it was going to squeeze by the left upright and the lack of wind calculation pushed it to hit the upright.

Nevertheless, still the best option we have. Give him the full year. I also have him on my fantasy squad, so I don't really feel like spending time finding another kicker this week.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;751749]Graham Gano has to be replaced --

The guy is 13 for 17 and among the worst in the league in terms of accuracy. He missed one from 37 yards out today that we could have really used. He missed a kick that could have won the game against Green Bay and he missed 2 in the game against Houston, one of which would have won the game in OT.

In my opinion, we need to look at picking up a kicker and releasing this guy because he is the opposite of clutch and I don't trust him with the game on the line.

edit: in the offseason -- I would agree that there aren't a whole lot of options to choose from[/quote]

Terrible thread. Who are you going to bring in here that is any better? If you saw the miss yesterday the wind was really howling and it seemed to push the ball over to the left. And the GB miss was over 50 yards but he came back to win the game. So tired of knee jerk fans like you.

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This is one of those things were he could be better, but who are we gonna get to replace him?

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How many games has this guy played here? 8 maybe 9?
Can we at least give the guy a full season,before cutting him please?

We got rid of Akers and look how his career turned out?
Ask Cowboy fans how they feel about cutting the young Nick Folk,who's now 13/15 on the 5-1 Jets)?
How did the saints do,when they replaced Hartley for 1 game? Didn't work out...luckily for them,he wasn't cut,as he too would have been scooped up and gone!

The only game where you can actually blame him for the Loss,is the texans game in the 30-27 OT loss. And he originally [B]MADE THE KICK[/B] from 52 yards. Only to be iced...

I don't know..maybe give the guy a full freakin' season,before cutting him maybe?
He's made big kicks in the G.B. game
Eagles game
Colts game
and the winner for the bears game...

Way too fickle guys...way too fickle...