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SmootSmack 12-05-2004 10:02 PM

Cooley, Calm, and Collected
 
Is it just me or does Chris Cooley play the game like a 10 year veteran?

I mean in another thread we talked about how receivers like Monk and Ellard were guys the QB could always depend on to get the necessary yards and make the catch. Chris Cooley is only a rookie and already it seems like he knows exactly where to be at all times. Can't say enough good things about this guy.

He's headed for Canton, no doubt (that was especially for SportsCurmudgeon :biggthump )

Gmanc711 12-05-2004 10:24 PM

I love this kid. I really dont even know what to say about him, he's everywhere, making plays to keep drives alive. He might even lead the team with TD Catches this season (i'm to lazy to look). He is just all over the place all the time, finding ways to get open(how about that TD that got called back). He is defintley a becoming a very poised, determined player.... I love it!

Daseal 12-05-2004 10:31 PM

I like his attitude, size, hands, and mobility. He's not Winslow, but he's a better all-around player. I love him.

LadyT 12-05-2004 10:37 PM

He's what Gibbs calls a Redskin type of guy. It also seemed obvious that he and Ramsey have quite a connection. There was one shot where he and Ramsey were playfully pushing each other on the sidelines. I think he will play a bigger and bigger role in this offense - exactly as the tight ends did in previous Gibbs-coached teams.

He's got such good hands, very rarely drops the ball. Maybe Gardner can take lessons from him!

You knew things were going well today when even Gardner was able to hold onto a pass and it was a tough one to catch!

Daseal 12-05-2004 10:40 PM

Gardner always catches the hard balls. It's the easy dinky ones he drops. Gardner has made a few spectacular catches this year. One where he laid out and bareely caught it with his finger tips. The one in Dallas that if we had a TO would have tied the game. It's when he drops a screenpass that I worry!

PSUskinsfan11 12-05-2004 10:43 PM

I wasn't real happy when we drafted him, but I was definatly wrong. He looks like he has the hands and blocking skills to make him a monster over the next 10 years.

MTK 12-05-2004 11:17 PM

Gibbs hit the jackpot with Cooley, he's a perfect player for this offense.

offiss 12-06-2004 12:35 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Gibbs hit the jackpot with Cooley, he's a perfect player for this offense.[/QUOTE]


You hit that one on the head Matty!

I don't follow college football all that much so I didn't know anything about the kid coming out of college but once we drafted him I was able to see all the highlight film on him, as soon as I saw it I knew he would be everything he has become and he will only continue to become more of an offensive threat, I personally think he's a better all around TE than Gibb's has ever had as a head coach, he is defiently worth the extra pick we gave up to insure we were able to get him in the 3rd rd. We have a real gamer in Cooley.

SmootSmack 12-06-2004 12:50 AM

Since Ade Jimoh and Cooley went to the same college I wonder if Jimoh got in some coach's ear and said they should take a look at this kid

If that's the case. Way to go Ade! There's a GM job waiting for you when you retire

AnonEmouse 12-06-2004 03:36 AM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Since Ade Jimoh and Cooley went to the same college I wonder if Jimoh got in some coach's ear and said they should take a look at this kid

If that's the case. Way to go Ade! There's a GM job waiting for you when you retire[/QUOTE]

What, next year?

Daseal 12-06-2004 07:52 AM

Ade's played decent all year. Got abused once in the Giants game, but he's played well enough.

FRPLG 12-06-2004 08:54 AM

Cooley will be a solid NFLer for 8-9 years. Lets not go overboard about him being a pro bowler though. He seems to fit the mold of a guy like... hell I can't even think of anyone he is like. But he is certainly not that big of a play maker to be "a beast" as some call him. He can be a good 7-8 TD guy with 70-80 catches a year. HE is good but won't be a huge star.

MTK 12-06-2004 09:39 AM

If he ever is a 70-80 catch guy that's definitely pro bowl material.

I don't see him getting to that level though, more likely in the 30-40 catch range each year with 5-8 TD's.

MTK 12-06-2004 09:40 AM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Is it just me or does Chris Cooley play the game like a 10 year veteran?

I mean in another thread we talked about how receivers like Monk and Ellard were guys the QB could always depend on to get the necessary yards and make the catch. Chris Cooley is only a rookie and already it seems like he knows exactly where to be at all times. Can't say enough good things about this guy.

He's headed for Canton, no doubt (that was especially for SportsCurmudgeon :biggthump )[/QUOTE]
They're definitely carving a bust for him as we speak! LOL

Redskins_P 12-06-2004 09:52 AM

Cooley is starting to become a go-to guy for Ramsey. Did anyone hear Ramsey yesterday? He said that Cooley continues to impress him with his hands and ability to get open.

Whatever draft pick we lost for him, was totally worth it.

Now everytime it's 3rd down or when we're in the Red Zone. My brother and I came up with it's "Cooley Time".

cpayne5 12-06-2004 09:52 AM

Cooley has 23 catches and 5 TDs right now. He is on pace for 31 receptions and 7 TDs. Not bad for a rookie that Bill Parcells wasn't good enough to play in the NFL.

His production has been increasing all year, especially since the QB change was made.

MTK 12-06-2004 09:55 AM

How about that play that got called back, Ramsey did an incredible job at waiting for that play to develop and evaded the defender at the last second to make the throw, and Cooley had an impressive catch and run flashing some decent speed.

I really wish that play stood up, it was a thing of beauty.

Redskins_P 12-06-2004 09:59 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]How about that play that got called back, Ramsey did an incredible job at waiting for that play to develop and evaded the defender at the last second to make the throw, and Cooley had an impressive catch and run flashing some decent speed.

I really wish that play stood up, it was a thing of beauty.[/QUOTE]


I was so hype after that play. Then of course [I]Raymer[/I] had to get a holding penalty [I]again[/I]....


Raymer also got beat by William Joseph on the only sack we gave up.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club 12-06-2004 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Since Ade Jimoh and Cooley went to the same college I wonder if Jimoh got in some coach's ear and said they should take a look at this kid

If that's the case. Way to go Ade! There's a GM job waiting for you when you retire[/QUOTE]


I think we all know who is pulling the strings on this team... (THE Ade.)

Seriously, I can't reiterate enough how freakin nice it is to see some positive posts on this site. I was starting to only read this site when I was having too good of a day...to bring me back down.

Does anyone think that we have a remote chance of going to the playoffs if we win the final four games?? Could it happen - statistically?

Redskins_P 12-06-2004 10:03 AM

[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]I think we all know who is pulling the strings on this team... (THE Ade.)

Seriously, I can't reiterate enough how freakin nice it is to see some positive posts on this site. I was starting to only read this site when I was having too good of a day...to bring me back down.

Does anyone think that we have a remote chance of going to the playoffs if we win the final four games?? Could it happen - statistically?[/QUOTE]


I was waiting for someone to throw out the "P" word. I think mathematically we're still in it, but we have win out these last 4 games.


We also have the tiebreaker by beating Detroit and Tampa. It's still a LOOOOOONG shot.

skinsguy 12-06-2004 10:12 AM

I was listening to Giants radio last night (coming home from my girlfriend's house) and they were saying that all it looks like the Redskins need is a reliable tight end to go to and kept talking about how Royal was average. They completely ignored Cooley!!! What is up with that??? I'm not ready to say that Cooley is the next Clint Didier, but he certainly has continued to impress me and I think he's the best tight end we've had in a long time!

cpayne5 12-06-2004 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]How about that play that got called back, Ramsey did an incredible job at waiting for that play to develop and evaded the defender at the last second to make the throw, and Cooley had an impressive catch and run flashing some decent speed.

I really wish that play stood up, it was a thing of beauty.[/QUOTE]
I actually thought Cooley's weakness was shown in that play: lack of speed. But, I thought he showed the determination that a lot players lack by gutting it out into the end zone.

I love Cooley, but I've always thought of his speed as a weakness.

MTK 12-06-2004 10:39 AM

I'm not saying he's a speedy guy, he definitely isn't, but he runs hard and got to the endzone on pure determination. I'll take that anyday over a guy who's fast but half-asses the effort part.

joecrisp 12-06-2004 10:40 AM

Cooley's got everything Gibbs wanted in a tight end, and that's why they gave up their 2nd rounder in 2005 to get him. He's big (6'3, 265 lbs), moves well for someone his size, has great hands, has a knack for getting open, he's a very determined, hard-working player, and he's smart. Quickness and speed are definitely not his strengths, but he's fast enough to get open, which is all that really matters.

It does look like Ramsey and Cooley are developing an excellent rapport, and that chemistry could make for a very good QB-TE tandem for years to come.

According to Vinny Cerrato on today's Elliot in the Morning show, the Skins had an excellent practice on Thursday, and Ramsey was a big reason why. He said Ramsey was nailing every pass, and was really showing a lot of fire, and that's why the Skins practiced so well and played so well on Sunday.

Gotta hand it to the receivers, though. They were catching practically everything Ramsey threw at them (Ramsey finished 19 for 22), even when the passes were a little off-target. Seems like everybody was out there making plays, even the tight ends. Cooley, Royal and Koz all made excellent plays.

Ramsey's really learned to just take what's there, and Cooley is a guy that's really going to benefit from that, as long as he keeps getting open like he does. Ramsey still made at least one ill-advised pass that could've been picked off, but for the most part, he was very poised and made the right throws.

That play that got called back, because of the holding penalty on Raymer, truly was a perfect example of what Ramsey can do when he's at the top of his game. When he stays cool, he does a great job of escaping the sack and making a great play downfield. That would-be touchdown to Cooley was reminiscent of the season opener last year against the Jets, when Ramsey escaped the sack and zinged one downfield for an awesome completion that put the Skins in position to win.

Looking forward to seeing more of that in the future...

offiss 12-06-2004 12:20 PM

He has more than enough speed, let's face it how many TE's are homerun hitter's? They don't score because they can outrun the secondary they score because they know how to get open and use there size to shield the defender from the ball, it look's like Cooley has all that with hand's of glue.

illdefined 12-06-2004 12:55 PM

i never seen Gonzales or Shockey line up in the backfield and lead block hard for their runner.

MTK 12-06-2004 02:04 PM

Shockey has lined up in the backfield at times for the Giants this year, but blocking isn't his strength at all.

JWsleep 12-06-2004 02:13 PM

I think the comment about Gibbs wanting an upgrade at TE is not about Cooley. Cooley is an H-back, which lots of people call a fullback-type position. Gibbs uses H-backs better than anyone, and COoley is a great fit. And his chemistry with Ramsey is undeniable. Did you see them joking together on the sidelines after the game was in hand? That was great.

What they need is a better blocking TE to allow the run game, especially at short yardage, to run people over. Royals hasn't exactly been doing that, though he's not a bad receiver. BUt that's not enough in GIbbs O.

Redskins_P 12-06-2004 02:16 PM

I saw Kozlowski lay some decent blocks for Portis yesterday.

saden1 12-06-2004 02:42 PM

Cooley has that classic look. He looks old school with that haircut of his. He needs to add more muscles though as he is a bit scrawny.

MTK 12-06-2004 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=saden1]Cooley has that classic look. He looks old school with that haircut of his. He needs to add more muscles though as he is a bit scrawny.[/QUOTE]
He's borderline white trash with that hockey haircut

diehardskin2982 12-06-2004 03:30 PM

when is someone gonna bring back the mullet!! he's a great kid and with a NFL work regiment he will become a monster in this league real soon.

skinsguy 12-06-2004 05:08 PM

I used to have a monster mullet when I was in high school (many many years ago!!) Even if they were back in style now, there's no way my girlfriend would let me grow it out.

SmootSmack 12-06-2004 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]I saw Kozlowski lay some decent blocks for Portis yesterday.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of Koz, apparently dude has an award named after him!

[url]http://www.theday.com/eng/web/news/re.aspx?re=B04E34F7-D05B-4662-82DD-FD1D478BD0A9[/url]

[QUOTE]The Brian Kozlowski Award was given to senior offensive tackle Ryan Krug for being courageous, hard working and productive. The award is named for the former Husky and current Washington Redskins tight end who through relentless hard work, effort and dedication has been able to have a lengthy NFL career.[/QUOTE]

GoSkins! 12-06-2004 06:23 PM

Pretty impressed that even though the Cooley TD came back, Ramsey pushed it down the field and put it in his hands in the endzone anyway.

Finally overcoming the penaltys!!!

Look out Philly :grouphug:

That Guy 12-08-2004 01:57 PM

i think we could use an upgrade at blocking TE too... (and at C, he got pushed around again, though not as bad as in pittsburg...)

cpayne5 12-08-2004 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=saden1]Cooley has that classic look. He looks old school with that haircut of his. He needs to add more muscles though as he is a bit scrawny.[/QUOTE]
Cooley is the only player that I've ever thought looked bigger in person.

MTK 12-08-2004 03:23 PM

Cooley goes about 260, he's a very solid 260 too.


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