Steve Slaton
 

He's buried on Houston's bench and I think he'd look real good in burgundy and gold next year. Here's why.

1. He knows our offense.
2. He adds serious game breaking ability
3. He can catch out of the backfield
4. He had nice production his rookie year
5. He adds much needed speed to our offense
6. He's still young
7. We can trade AH to Houston cause they play a 4-3 and need help on defense.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

I have little interest in looking at our skill position options. That's the Snyder way of building a team. Tell me who's available to improve our O-line via draft and free agency.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

8. His initals are SS like Smootsmack.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=SouperMeister;765941]I have little interest in looking at our skill position options. That's the Snyder way of building a team. Tell me who's available to improve our O-line via draft and free agency.[/quote]

That first sentence may be part of the problem too.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=SouperMeister;765941]I have little interest in looking at our skill position options. That's the Snyder way of building a team. Tell me who's available to improve our O-line via draft and free agency.[/quote]

I would sign Logan Mankins in FA and draft a C.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=skinsfan69;765938]He's buried on Houston's bench and I think he'd look real good in burgundy and gold next year. Here's why.

1. He knows our offense.
2. He adds serious game breaking ability
3. He can catch out of the backfield
4. He had nice production his rookie year
5. He adds much needed speed to our offense
6. He's still young
7. We can trade AH to Houston cause they play a 4-3 and need help on defense.[/quote]

The reason he was benched is fumbleitis. He's got a serious fumbling problem, and I wouldn't want him unless it had been corrected once and for all. And if did trade Haynesworth to Houston, I would def. want way more for him than a running back buried on the depth chart. 2nd rounder and Slaton might be nice, provided Slaton corrects his fumbling problem. Houston might not want him though, although I'm not entirely sure how comfortable they are with Amobi Okoye down there.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

For next season the Redskins need to keep Trent Williams and bring up Selvish Capers/Erik Cook from the practice squad and release every other player on their O-Line. Then use their 1st and 2nd round picks on O-Lineman to get two more talented players. After the draft sign a bunch of young free agents and see if they can find any players to build some YOUNG depth. Till we get a solid O-Line our offense will continue to stink. We have to be able to run the ball to set up playaction and the longball.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;765947]For next season the Redskins need to keep Trent Williams and bring up Selvish Capers/Erik Cook from the practice squad and release every other player on their O-Line. Then use their 1st and 2nd round picks on O-Lineman to get two more talented players. After the draft sign a bunch of young free agents and see if they can find any players to build some YOUNG depth. [B]Till we get a solid O-Line our offense will continue to stink.[/B] We have to be able to run the ball to set up playaction and the longball.[/quote]

I like that line of thinking but what makes you so sure Capers and Cook are the answer? Maybe they are stuck on the practice squad because they aren't good enough. I think they would've stayed on the main roster this season if they had proved they were deserving of a spot. The fact that they haven't been signed off our practice squad probably indicates that other teams don't see that much in them either.

Capers and Cook are unknowns at this point. I agree we need to upgrade the o-line (I'm fine with our tackles, I just think the interior needs upgrading) but there is absolutely no evidence that Capers and Cook are the answer. I think if they are the answer, they would've stood out in practice by now, and proven that they deserved to be starting. But that's obviously not the case now is it?

Re: Steve Slaton
 

given the picks we have right now I say we grab some O-Linemen in FA
Mankins, Mangold, Bushrod, Kalil,light ,gaither, clabo, Kreutz, Dahl
we draft skill positions
WR, RB, LB or a CB
we have to rebuild but we will bring in bandaids to try to be competitive so get used to that....
get the best player available in the draft and fill in the holes.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=skinsfan69;765938]He's buried on Houston's bench and I think he'd look real good in burgundy and gold next year. Here's why.

1. He knows our offense.
2. He adds serious game breaking ability
3. He can catch out of the backfield
4. He had nice production his rookie year
5. He adds much needed speed to our offense
6. He's still young
7. We can trade AH to Houston cause they play a 4-3 and need help on defense.[/quote]

as a wvu homer i'm all for it. he showed flashes his rokkie year, then fell off and had some fumbling issues. and quite honestly it seems like a realistic enough trade, it would be nice to get them to throw in a late pick as well.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;765947]For next season the Redskins need to keep Trent Williams and bring up Selvish Capers/Erik Cook from the practice squad and release every other player on their O-Line. Then use their 1st and 2nd round picks on O-Lineman to get two more talented players. After the draft sign a bunch of young free agents and see if they can find any players to build some YOUNG depth. Till we get a solid O-Line our offense will continue to stink. We have to be able to run the ball to set up playaction and the longball.[/quote]

I agree with the idea of drafting more o-lineman, but lets not overlook the fact that the line has been playing much better of late, especially considering the defense lines the Skins have been up against. Yesterday's 7 points was a combination of careless turnovers and dropped passes. The line was giving McNabb time, especially considering it was against the Giants.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

Let Houston cut him loose, than pick him up.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

It is very obvious that we need o-line help. Everyone knows that. The is the first priority. But this offense also needs a homerun hitter too. I'm thinking with a little coaching up with the fumble problem, like Tiki Barber got, this guy would be a perfect fit here.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

I'd be fine with them drafting a WR with the first pick and attacking the Oline in Free Agency

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=Jontrem;766015]I'd be fine with them drafting a WR with the first pick and attacking the Oline in Free Agency[/quote]I'm only fine with this approach if the O-lineman is 27 or younger. I don't want a 34 year old Olin Kreutz on the downside of his career. If we're going to give big FA money to a lineman, it should be for a guy whose best football is still ahead of him. Nick Mangold would be an excellent upgrade at C, and he will only be 27 next year.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=SouperMeister;766030]I'm only fine with this approach if the O-lineman is 27 or younger. I don't want a 34 year old Olin Kreutz on the downside of his career. If we're going to give big FA money to a lineman, it should be for a guy whose best football is still ahead of him. [B]Nick Mangold would be an excellent upgrade at C, and he will only be 27 next year.[/B][/quote]

I completely agree, but Nick Mangold is a Pro Bowl center, and you know he won't come cheap. And who's to say the Jets will release him? Just because his contract might be up doesn't mean the Jets don't want him back.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

Mangold isn't going to be a FA folks, the Jets locked him up back in August

[url=http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-08/jets-offensive-line/story/new-york-jets-nick-mangold-now-nfls-highest-paid-center&sa=U&ei=yTn9TMuQMcGp8AbphNTlCg&ved=0CCQQFjAI&usg=AFQjCNEgq1sDP8mqxSInEAvZxQ4QZDw5TA]New York Jets' Nick Mangold now NFL's highest-paid center - NFL - Sporting News[/url]

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=Mattyk;766158]Mangold isn't going to be a FA folks, the Jets locked him up back in August

[URL="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2010/08/how-the-nick-mangold-contract.html"]How the Nick Mangold contract negotiations were resurrected[/URL][/quote]

Ouch. Mangold is a moot point then. I heard his sister plays football though. Maybe she can play better than Rabach at this point.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=mooby;765946]The reason he was benched is fumbleitis. He's got a serious fumbling problem, and I wouldn't want him unless it had been corrected once and for all. And if did trade Haynesworth to Houston, I would def. want way more for him than a running back buried on the depth chart. 2nd rounder and Slaton might be nice, provided Slaton corrects his fumbling problem. Houston might not want him though, although I'm not entirely sure how comfortable they are with Amobi Okoye down there.[/quote]


If the Houston GM would even listen to an offer of Haynesworth for Steve Slaton and a 2nd round pick, you had better check his blood alcohol level. It is probably in the .30 range...


Albert Haynesworth's value on the trade market [B]MIGHT[/B] be a conditional sixth round pick.


If the Skins don't like that deal, they have two choices:

[INDENT]a. They keep Haynesworth one more year.

b. They release Haynesworth/waive Haynesworth and get nothing for him.[/INDENT]

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=mooby;766159]Ouch. Mangold is a moot point then. I heard his sister plays football though. Maybe she can play better than Rabach at this point.[/quote]

Were you not part of this site when his sister was?

Re: Steve Slaton
 

O-Line to Keep

~ T. Williams
~ W. Montgomery
~ Dockery (probably re-work deal)

That's it .... draft another OL in 1st Round ... sign Steve Breaston WR .. maybe Reggie Wayne WR ...

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=SouperMeister;765941]I have little interest in looking at our skill position options. That's the Snyder way of building a team. Tell me who's available to improve our O-line via draft and free agency.[/quote]


I love this quote and believe in it 100% :food-smil

Any other focus this off-season WITHOUT 1st addressing the Oline....:spank:

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;765947]For next season the Redskins need to keep Trent Williams and bring up Selvish Capers/Erik Cook from the practice squad and release every other player on their O-Line. Then use their 1st and 2nd round picks on O-Lineman to get two more talented players. After the draft sign a bunch of young free agents and see if they can find any players to build some YOUNG depth. Till we get a solid O-Line our offense will continue to stink. We have to be able to run the ball to set up playaction and the longball.[/quote]


It feels good to see fellow skins fans coming around to how you REALLY build a contender........Slaton + fumbleist = :benched:

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=tc2deuce;765950]given the picks we have right now I say we grab some O-Linemen in FA
Mankins, Mangold, Bushrod, Kalil,light ,gaither, clabo, Kreutz, Dahl
we draft skill positions
WR, RB, LB or a CB
we have to rebuild but we will bring in bandaids to try to be competitive so get used to that....
get the best player available in the draft and fill in the holes.[/quote]


I see the Dan Snyder/Vinny Cerrato philosophy is still being implemented. If you would have said "skill players later in the draft"...ok. Only going after skill players is why we are in this mess

Re: Steve Slaton
 

[quote=Texanskin;766235]I see the Dan Snyder/Vinny Cerrato philosophy is still being implemented. If you would have said "skill players later in the draft"...ok. Only going after skill players is why we are in this mess[/quote]We're also paying for the sins of trading picks away like confetti. Trading a 3rd and a 4th for Brandon Lloyd and another 3rd and 4th for TJ Duckett were horrendously bad moves. Hell, I'm still irked that we tossed in a 2nd to complete the Portis for Champ Bailey trade. If anything Gibbs/Snyder should have demanded that we receive an extra pick given the value of a true shutdown corner. Moving forward, I'm hoping that Shanahan and Allen value draft picks, stockpile them, and use them to get more youth, speed, and depth on a roster that's sorely lacking.

Re: Steve Slaton
 

What I want to know is when did Dock start playing like garbage? I thought he was doing well at the beginning and then all of a sudden he was playing back up. I definitely agree if we do not address the O-line first and foremost, nothing else we do will matter. Who cares if you have good receivers, running back and even QB if no one has the time to do anything b/c the line is always getting blown up. Why would you think Capers and Cook would be any better next year if they weren't good enough to make the squad this year?