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tc2deuce 12-12-2010 10:32 PM

time to play GM
 
Alright, this season is over for us so it is time to think 2011.(if we have a season) It has been rough and we can be negative all day but let's try to be optimistic here.
So this is what I would do if I was the GM
Rebuild the O-line via Free Agency Gaither, Mankins, Penn, Colledge, Kalil and maybe Clabo.
Draft Justin Blackmon, Julio Jones or A.J Green. 1st round
Draft Bruce Carter or Gregg Jones OLB 2nd round
Pick up Richard Seymour
Sign VJAX
Sign Champ,chris houston, or eric wright
Release
Rocky
Rabach
Moss
Hicks
Golston
Buchanon
Kemo
AL
Daniels
your turn

SmootSmack 12-12-2010 10:35 PM

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Um...sign Mankins, Gaither, VJax, Champ and Seymour?

skinsfaninok 12-12-2010 10:39 PM

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Yea we aren't the Yankees bro, I would love to bring champ in and mankins but I doubt that happens.

tc2deuce 12-12-2010 10:43 PM

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we are the yankees when it comes to the offseason

SmootSmack 12-12-2010 10:43 PM

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We wouldn't bring Champ back, nor should we.

I wonder if the expected front office moves (below Allen) will actually happen?

Daseal 12-12-2010 10:44 PM

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How old is champ? 50? 65?

SmootSmack 12-12-2010 10:45 PM

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[quote=tc2deuce;768116]we are the yankees when it comes to the offseason[/quote]

So your solution than is to do what everyone complains that we do?

skinsfaninok 12-12-2010 10:45 PM

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Champ is around 32 probably, he's still a top 10 CB

skinsfaninok 12-12-2010 10:46 PM

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And cut Moss? He's our ONLY WR lmao cmon man

tc2deuce 12-12-2010 10:55 PM

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I love Moss but I think it is time we let him go

skinsfaninok 12-12-2010 10:57 PM

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I'm all for new faces but he's still pretty good

tc2deuce 12-12-2010 10:57 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;768119]So your solution than is to do what everyone complains that we do?[/quote]

if you want to be competitive and given we have a 1st a 2nd and 5th 6th and 7th round pick...we have to do that

SouperMeister 12-12-2010 10:59 PM

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I would start by keeping our draft picks instead of trading them away. I can't imagine that another team over the last dozen years has traded away more draft picks than the Snyder-era Redskins.

tc2deuce 12-12-2010 11:00 PM

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^ I agree no more trading picks!!

SmootSmack 12-12-2010 11:03 PM

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[quote=tc2deuce;768132]if you want to be competitive and given we have a 1st a 2nd and 5th 6th and 7th round pick...we have to do that[/quote]

Well do you want to be temporarily competitive and eat for a day or "rebuild" and eat for life?

tc2deuce 12-12-2010 11:05 PM

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we will be rebuilding but signing temps. so for example we will sign an eric wright or a champ and then draft a CB in 2012

skinsfaninok 12-12-2010 11:05 PM

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^ shit we are starving right now so I'll take anything at this point lol

tc2deuce 12-12-2010 11:12 PM

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i just want to get in the playoffs

Slingin Sammy 33 12-12-2010 11:37 PM

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[quote=tc2deuce;768140]i just want to get in the playoffs[/quote]not going to happen before 2013. Too many holes to fill, including QB.

drew54 12-12-2010 11:44 PM

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Would Champ even consider coming back? Maybe Shanahan could persuade him to play FS.

Big C 12-12-2010 11:55 PM

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we need to sign a free safety. i think that kareem moore is pretty bad. i think we can get by with landry, rogers, deangelo hall, buchanon, and barnes in the secondary, however we definitely need to add a free safety.

at linebacker, rocky, fletcher, and orakpo are fine, but we need another outside linebacker to compliment orakpo. if we find a replacement for rocky thats fine, but we can manage with him there i think.

defensive line, we need a lot of help. we need a true nose tackle that is worth a damn, and we need depth there. daniels, carriker, and golston can hang around, we need depth like i said. but we also need to sign 2 nose tackles in my opinion.

offensive line, again we need some help. williams, lichtsteiger, montgomery, and brown can stay. id really like us to pick up a starting center and right guard.

qb, i think we are ok

rb, it would be nice to pick one up in FA but id be opposed to drafting one. torrain when healthy has looked good, and shannahan has done well turning no names into good backs. i think we can be ok here with better o-line play.

wr, we need a lot of help. justin blackmon from ok state would be a nice pickup in the first round if we decide to go WR there. either way, we need at least 2 receivers, one of them being a #1.

tight end, we are good

summary

we need 2 wide receivers- one a number 1 receiver
we need a right guard and center
we need 2 nose tackles and depth at defensive end
we need another rush linebacker
we need a free safety

skinsfan69 12-13-2010 12:09 AM

Re: time to play GM
 
[quote=tc2deuce;768112]Alright, this season is over for us so it is time to think 2011.(if we have a season) It has been rough and we can be negative all day but let's try to be optimistic here.
So this is what I would do if I was the GM
Rebuild the O-line via Free Agency Gaither, Mankins, Penn, Colledge, Kalil and maybe Clabo.
Draft Justin Blackmon, Julio Jones or A.J Green. 1st round
Draft Bruce Carter or Gregg Jones OLB 2nd round
Pick up Richard Seymour
Sign VJAX
Sign Champ,chris houston, or eric wright
Release
Rocky
Rabach
Moss
Hicks
Golston
Buchanon
Kemo
AL
Daniels
your turn[/quote]

Seems like you're looking for a quick fix. Are you Vinny or Dan hiding behind the screen? It's going to take years to rebuild the team. Sure we can keep bringing in other teams players but has it worked? No. We need two or three solid drafts before we start adding expensive FA's. I'm willing to wait cause I'm tired of the way we've been doing it. So I wouldn't add any of those players. I'd try trade away any player on this team that has value for picks...Moss, Haynesworth, Cooley, McNabb, Hall. And while I was doing that, get lucky with a couple guys...like TB and NE did w/ LaGarrett Blout and Danny Woodhead.

SirClintonPortis 12-13-2010 12:12 AM

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I would plan my plan in such a way that we will be assured to get Phillip Rivers' brother when he becomes available.

Sadly, I don't follow college ball, so I have no idea who to target in the future draft[B](s)[/B].

skinsfan69 12-13-2010 12:13 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;768131]I'm all for new faces but he's still pretty good[/quote]

I would try and trade him at this point. Let him go somewhere where he has a chance to win. It's not going to happen here anytime soon. New England has a lot of picks so I'd be on the phone with them. Put Santana in that offense and he is going to catch a ton of balls.

SirClintonPortis 12-13-2010 12:14 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;768161]I would try and trade him at this point. Let him go somewhere where he has a chance to win. It's not going to happen here anytime soon. New England has a lot of picks so I'd be on the phone with them. Put Santana in that offense and he is going to catch a ton of balls.[/quote]

I think it's debatable whether he'll outperform Deion Branch.

skinsfan69 12-13-2010 12:15 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;768137]Well do you want to be temporarily competitive and eat for a day or "rebuild" and eat for life?[/quote]

I don't even want to be competitive at this point. For what? Nothing worse than having an old team that can't compete for a playoff spot.

skinsfan69 12-13-2010 12:17 AM

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[quote=tc2deuce;768138]we will be rebuilding but signing temps. so for example we will sign an eric wright or a champ and then draft a CB in 2012[/quote]

I disagree cause then the coaches will play the older guys cause they want to win and the young guys really won't play and get experience. Get younger and let them play and live with their mistakes.

SmootSmack 12-13-2010 12:17 AM

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Not quite ready to play GM but I will say what I want most is a QB. Not to replace McNabb next year per se but a QB for the future. Just something to think about...or ponder, if you will.

skinsfan69 12-13-2010 12:18 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;768159]I would plan my plan in such a way that we will be assured to get Phillip Rivers' brother when he becomes available.

Sadly, I don't follow college ball, so I have no idea who to target in the future draft[B](s)[/B].[/quote]

This is why I really don't want to win anymore games. Andrew Luck could be our QB of the future.

skinsfan69 12-13-2010 12:20 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;768162]I think it's debatable whether he'll outperform Deion Branch.[/quote]

He may not out perform him but I think he'd fit in perfect there. Plus NE needs a #3 wr. Santana is a veteran that can still get open, he keeps his mouth shut and does his job. Typical BB kinda guy.

sdskinsfan2001 12-13-2010 12:23 AM

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There is no way we should sign all of those players (even if we could), that is what the Redskins do and it hasnt worked out. We need to become a young team with the potential to become a great team. It all needs to start with the O-Line. We should use our 1st and 2nd round picks on a player who can play center/guard and a right tackle. and bring up Erik Cook and Selvish Capers for depth. Then later in the draft look for a change of pace back and a big red zone type receiver.

Big C 12-13-2010 12:25 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;768165]Not quite ready to play GM but I will say what I want most is a QB. Not to replace McNabb next year per se but a QB for the future. Just something to think about...or ponder, if you will.[/quote]

scott tolzien of wisconsin would be a good look for a late round qb to try and develop i think.

tyrod taylor from VT in the 5th round maybe if hes there as well.

skinsfan69 12-13-2010 12:29 AM

Re: time to play GM
 
[quote=SmootSmack;768165]Not quite ready to play GM but I will say what I want most is a QB. Not to replace McNabb next year per se but a QB for the future. Just something to think about...or ponder, if you will.[/quote]

If they do draft a guy he's gotta play right away. Don't ya think?

tc2deuce 12-13-2010 12:31 AM

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[quote=Big C;768172]scott tolzien of wisconsin would be a good look for a late round qb to try and develop i think.

tyrod taylor from VT in the 5th round maybe if hes there as well.[/quote]

i like the tayor idea

SmootSmack 12-13-2010 12:31 AM

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Depends on where we draft him. I hear we like Locker, who probably would play right away. I like Ponder, who probably wouldnt

Big C 12-13-2010 12:37 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;768179]Depends on where we draft him. I hear we like Locker, who probably would play right away. I like Ponder, who probably wouldnt[/quote]

i would not be in favor of drafting a qb in the first or second round. locker will certainly be a first round pick, and ponder could go in 1 2 or 3 im guessing. we have far more pressing concerns than the qb position imo. id take an o-lineman or blackmon at wide receiver in the first round, depending on where we draft, and obviously trade down if possible to get more picks. id rather get a kid in the latter rounds to sit behind mcnabb for 2 years, a-la tolzien or tyrod out of the senior qbs. both run pro style offenses and are great leaders. tolzien is very very accurate. tyrod is very mobile in the pocket nowadays. both play in pro-style offenses.

WaldSkins 12-13-2010 12:39 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;768179]Depends on where we draft him. I hear we like Locker, who probably would play right away. I like Ponder, who probably wouldnt[/quote]

Have you heard anything about Pat Devlin from Delaware? He could be a late rounder that could develop over time.

WaldSkins 12-13-2010 12:49 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;768179]Depends on where we draft him. I hear we like Locker, who probably would play right away. I like Ponder, who probably wouldnt[/quote]

Im saying no to the people who want Tyrod Taylor. I want a pocket passing qb not a run first qb.


Isn't Locker the 2010 version of Jevan Snead?

12thMan 12-13-2010 01:20 AM

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I reallly think trading McNabb has to be on the table for the Skins. His value just goes down hill after next season and I siimply don't think he'll be that much of a difference maker next year or the following that warrants keeping him around.

Let's get some of those picks back I say.

Beemnseven 12-13-2010 06:40 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;768166]This is why I really don't want to win anymore games. Andrew Luck could be our QB of the future.[/quote]

No way Luck makes it past Carolina or Arizona. Hell even Cincinnati might bite.


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