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I'm not sure he was the 3rd best corner in our conference but he's the solo nod for the Skins

Dallas sent 5.. including Gurode lol

others were Ratliff, Ware, Witten, McBriar

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Orakpo and Sellers are both first alternates. Alexander, Cooley and Fletcher are second alternates.

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tough to have pro bowl players when you play like crap all season

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[quote=rbanerjee23;773132]tough to have pro bowl players when you play like crap all season[/quote]

Unless you're Dallas of course

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Hall's kind of an odd selection, although this was pretty clearly the most deserved of all three of his pro bowls. Made a number of winning plays for us this year.

I was critical of Aaron Rodgers last year, but seriously NFL? Your solution to having only one pro bowl spot for Mike Vick and Matt Ryan is to put both of them in and leave Rodgers out? Insanity, absolute insanity.

And Casey Rabach is wondering why Antrel Rolle gets to the pro bowl twice in a row in years where he is going to not be brought back by the teams he is representing due to poor performance. Rabach is at least as deserving as Rolle is. Not to mention that LaRon Landry and Quentin Mikell both don't get to go.

I kind of think Landry got snubbed. He only played in 9 games...that's just as many as Ed Reed, and he was better in his 9 games than Reed was in his. He was likely the second most valuable safety in the NFL after Polamalu this year. And the pro bowl selectors clearly did not value games played this season (Vick>Rodgers, Reed>Griffin, O'Hara>Kreutz), so that argument against Landry is complete bunk based on the rest of the selections.

He should have been our lone pro bowler.

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Ware, Ratliff and Whitten are pro bowl regardless of who they for.
Our Alexander made 2nd alternate? That is unexpected.

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[quote=Defensewins;773139]Ware, Ratliff and Ware are pro bowl regardless of who they for.
Our Alexander made 2nd alternate? That is unexpected.[/quote]Ratliff has 3.5 sacks this year, and no real pressure up the middle for the Cowboys. He's declined at least as much this year as Andre Carter did, and no one fancies Carter a pro-bowler -- though last year, he absolutely should have been.

Witten and Ware were deserving, and I don't have a huge problem with Mat McBriar being the punter for the pro bowl team, but that would make three Cowboys players already. The idea that they should get more than that is ludicrous.

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Dallas always gets the players in the PB, It's a popularity contest.. It's a damn Shame 59 didn't get in AGAIN

I think LL got the most votes for a S but he's on IR so we would have had 2 guys

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How does Darren McFadden not get in????

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The Dallas players getting selected is kind of a mixed bag. On one hand it's nice to see players selected from a team thats below .500. Guys who would never get in on most other teams get selected simply because they perform well on an elite team.

Of course the fact that it was Dallas shows an obvious bias towards "America's team." If London Fletcher had been a Dallas Cowboy for most of his career with the same stats he would have set a record for Pro Bowl appearances by a Linebacker.

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It's funny how teams with the best record always have the most players in every season. ATL? Seriously?

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If London Fletcher was a Cowboy. He would of been in....

How many times did LD make a touchdown saving tackle at the goaline, or a big play like an interception to prevent a score, or a sack at a crucial moment? More times then any other LB in the NFC. I know that..

Ofcourse when your defense is ranked 32nd. I guess you can't really get to many people in.

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[quote=Bucket;773166]If London Fletcher was a Cowboy. He would of been in....

How many times did LD make a touchdown saving tackle at the goaline, or a big play like an interception to prevent a score, or a sack at a crucial moment? More times then any other LB in the NFC. I know that..

Ofcourse when your defense is ranked 32nd. I guess you can't really get to many people in.[/quote]If we were a consistent playoff team like Philly, Fletcher would make it every year.

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Its a popularity contest not impressed with pro bowl voting. Hall voted in- yeah figures, way to overlook Fletcher again.

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Hmmm, funny that Coaches Mike and Kyle weren't voted in.....?!!!!!!!!

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[quote=GTripp0012;773138]Hall's kind of an odd selection, although this was pretty clearly the most deserved of all three of his pro bowls. Made a number of winning plays for us this year.

I was critical of Aaron Rodgers last year, but seriously NFL? Your solution to having only one pro bowl spot for Mike Vick and Matt Ryan is to put both of them in and leave Rodgers out? Insanity, absolute insanity.

And Casey Rabach is wondering why Antrel Rolle gets to the pro bowl twice in a row in years where he is going to not be brought back by the teams he is representing due to poor performance. Rabach is at least as deserving as Rolle is. Not to mention that LaRon Landry and Quentin Mikell both don't get to go.

I kind of think Landry got snubbed. He only played in 9 games...that's just as many as Ed Reed, and he was better in his 9 games than Reed was in his. He was likely the second most valuable safety in the NFL after Polamalu this year. And the pro bowl selectors clearly did not value games played this season (Vick>Rodgers, Reed>Griffin, O'Hara>Kreutz), so that argument against Landry is complete bunk based on the rest of the selections.

He should have been our lone pro bowler.[/quote]

I thought players on IR couldnt play in the Pro Bowl?:benched:

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For those saying Landry should've been our lone Pro Bowler, you are right because he was definitely worthy, but you have to understand he was put on IR before the coaches and players voted for their Pro Bowl ballots, and if you are on IR when they do their voting, you aren't going to be on the ballot. That is the reason Landry didn't get in.

And 5 Cowboys making it is a crock of shit. Ratliff and Gurode def. didn't deserve to go, I can't argue with McBriar because he is one of the best punters in the league, and can't really argue with Witten or Ware either. Should've been 3.

Didn't know if Hall would make it but I'm not disappointed he did. He's certainly not been a shutdown corner this season, but he's made 6 picks in addition to at least 2 games we won because of him. He made his share of plays, and that outweighed the times his bad plays.

I can see why Orakpo didn't make it, before he got injured I don't think he had a sack in quite a while. He was on fire the first half of the season with like 7.5 sacks in 7 games, but he had like 1 sack in 7 or 8 games after that. And he still might make it if one of the guys ahead of him bows out due to injury or Super Bowl duties.

And I can see why Fletch didn't make it, I mean aside from his tackling he's had a down year by his standards this year, and our defense being a pile of dog shit didn't help either.

Basically not suprised by 1 Skin going this year, we haven't played that well all season long, and we certainly don't have the name recognition shitty teams like the Cowboys have. And that number might go up by the time the game is played, so it ain't no biggie.

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Happy for D Hall and our alternates. I find it funny that Dallas sent more than we did, I guess all it takes is a star on your helmet. The Pro Bowl has turned into a middle school class election, it is all about who is popular.

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[quote=Dread-Skin;773182]Hmmm, funny that Coaches Mike and Kyle weren't voted in.....?!!!!!!!![/quote]

Sarcasm, right? Very clever. I'll play along...

Since neither one were candidates for coach of the year, they should be [B]FIRED.[/B] In fact, once they're dismissed, and the new coach doesn't go at least 12-4 in his first season -- [B]HE'S FIRED TOO. [/B]

Then on to the next coach, then the next, then the next, then the next ...

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the only thing worse than the ProBowl is the Pro Bowl voting...

I don't think any Skins played well enough to go, but clearly not all 5 cowboys should have either, and I am sure there are other examples, I just didn't look at all the rosters.

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Is the probowl the week before the superbowl again this year? That was a horrible decisions and whoever made that call should be castrated.

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[quote=Jontrem;773214]Is the probowl the week before the superbowl again this year? That was a horrible decisions and whoever made that call should be castrated.[/quote]

The ratings for the Pro Bowl last year were higher than ever.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/01/pro-bowl-ratings-explode/]Pro Bowl ratings explode | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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I give D Hall credit, But most upsetting is that London Fletcher gets snubbed again.

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None of our DBs can tackle.Fletcher is the best we have........

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[quote=Jontrem;773214]Is the probowl the week before the superbowl again this year? That was a horrible decisions and whoever made that call should be castrated.[/quote]


I think it is a good idea because you still somewhat care about football after the Super Bowl I am pretty much cooked when it comes to football, Ineed a break.

With that said I still never watch the Pro Bowl it is a dumb game that is totally meaningless.

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I agree. McFadden was a beast this year. Snubbed

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Hall is more than deserving...HTTR

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Good for hall and the alternates but, the pro bowl game has lost much of it's luster in recent years. Some of the better players selected don't want to play in it because of how it conflicts with the super bowl. The scheduling of that game meets with poor timing.

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[quote=GTripp0012;773140]Ratliff has 3.5 sacks this year, and no real pressure up the middle for the Cowboys. He's declined at least as much this year as Andre Carter did, and no one fancies Carter a pro-bowler -- though last year, he absolutely should have been.

Witten and Ware were deserving, and I don't have a huge problem with Mat McBriar being the punter for the pro bowl team, but that would make three Cowboys players already. The idea that they should get more than that is ludicrous.[/quote]
I don't think Dallas deserved 5 Pro Bowlers.

But in defense of Ratliff, the guy is a very undersized NT in a 3-4. He is a converted 4-3 DE. And was a 7th round draft pick.

3.5 sacks for an undersized NT who is constantly fighting off double teams is pretty good IMO.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;773256]I don't think Dallas deserved 5 Pro Bowlers.

[B]But in defense of Ratliff, the guy is a very undersized NT in a 3-4. He is a converted 4-3 DE. And was a 7th round draft pick.[/B]

3.5 sacks for an undersized NT who is constantly fighting off double teams is pretty good IMO.[/quote]

You not making a defense for Ratliff your making an excuse for him.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;773256]I don't think Dallas deserved 5 Pro Bowlers.

But in defense of Ratliff, the guy is a very undersized NT in a 3-4. He is a converted 4-3 DE. And was a 7th round draft pick.

3.5 sacks for an undersized NT who is constantly fighting off double teams is pretty good IMO.[/quote]

Dallas had the worst Defense in the NFC, Ware is the best OLB in the conference so I can agree with him but ratliff had a very avg season. Miles Austin got snubbed IMO he still had a solid season without Romo for most of it.

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Austin? I would give the nod to Santana Moss over him.

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Really the pro bowl is just a salary escalator at this point for players. Why bother even playing the game? Oh money that is right, my bad.

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[quote]On a conference call with media members afterwards, Lloyd was asked what message, if any, he wanted to convey to his three former teams, to which Brandon shot back, ”told you so,” While his tone was said to have been somewhat tongue-in-cheek, his words got a little more pointed, as Lloyd then added, [B]”No, I want to say, ‘(Bleep) you[/B].’ And I mean that in the most professional way.”
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Classy Brandon. I guess running multiple routes from the route tree was to much for you to process, balancing your rap career and all, especially if we asked you to go over the middle. So the run straight offense provided you by McDaniels was easy enough for you to understand that you were able to finally become a decent football player.

Seriously this guy runs one route.
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Only took Lloyd 8 years to get his head on straight on the football field and he acts like he was screwed over along the way. Why is that not surprising?

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I heard Landry got the most votes for safety in the NFC although he's hurt.London Flecher should have made it.I agree,too many cowpies are in.:spank:

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[quote=Mattyk;773276]Austin? I would give the nod to Santana Moss over him.[/quote]

Yes Moss also of course

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How can you justify anyone other than Hall for us in the PB? We had several alternates, but c'mon, our D was a sieve, and our O couldn't find the endzone til DM was benched two weeks ago.

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Pretend for a moment that the Pro Bowl is like the MLB All Star game - - every team has to have a representative there.

So, who would you pick to be there in 2010 for the Skins?

Hall has 6 INts and he basically won the Bears game with his defense all by himself. There is no way I think he is the best cornerback in the NFC; in fact, I don't think he is the best cornerback in the NFC East. Nevertheless, he is the best choice from a team that really has no outstanding players on the roster for 2010.

Arguing that the Cowboys do not deserve 5 folks in the Pro Bowl is pretty easy based on the Cowboys' record in 2011. However, this shows why giving the fans voting power - - even partially - - in the selection process can produce a lot of bad choices.

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Player A: 64 receptions / 603 yards / 5 tds / 15 games started

Player B: 72 receptions / 796 yards / 3 tds / 14 games started

A is Gonzalez and B is Cooley. IMO Cooley, hall, and Fletcher should have all made the probowl.