This Just In---Andrew Luck To Stay At Stanford
 

ESPN says Andrew Luck not coming out.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5995754]Andrew Luck skipping NFL draft, will return to Stanford Cardinal - ESPN[/url]

I wonder who the Panthers will take now...

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Doggone it. Not that I thought that we would get him, but his presence may have pushed better QB's down towards us.

Good for Luck, though, in valuing his college experience.

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That's okay, we will get him next year....

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He's an idiot. Jake Locker could have been the #1 overall pick last year ($50M guaranteed), and now there's a chance he may not even go until very late in the 1st round. He lost tens of millions of dollars for what? A season in which he regressed playing for a lousy team.

Andrew Luck is holding on to a $50M (at least) lottery ticket. He's foolish for not cashing it ASAP, especially with Harbaugh leaving. He can always go back to Stanford and finish his degree.

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[quote=Lotus;775716]Doggone it. Not that I thought that we would get him, but his presence may have pushed better QB's down towards us.

Good for Luck, though, in valuing his college experience.[/quote]

Yep, the push down factor may have screwed us a bit.

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[quote=GMScud;775719]He's an idiot. Jake Locker could have been the #1 overall pick last year ($50M guaranteed), and now there's a chance he may not even go until very late in the 1st round. He lost tens of millions of dollars for what? A season in which he regressed playing for a lousy team.

Andrew Luck is holding on to a $50M (at least) lottery ticket. He's foolish for not cashing it ASAP,[B] especially with Harbaugh leaving.[/B] He can always go back to Stanford and finish his degree.[/quote]

Rumor has it Harbaugh is staying...

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[quote=GMScud;775719]He's an idiot. Jake Locker could have been the #1 overall pick last year ($50M guaranteed), and now there's a chance he may not even go until very late in the 1st round. He lost tens of millions of dollars for what? A season in which he regressed playing for a lousy team.

Andrew Luck is holding on to a $50M (at least) lottery ticket. He's foolish for not cashing it ASAP, especially with Harbaugh leaving. He can always go back to Stanford and finish his degree.[/quote]

This. Between the specter of a looming rookie salary cap, and his "guaranteed" #1 overall pick by the panthers, he is forfeiting far more than the value of a 4th year of college. I am not even implying that the education isn't inherently valuable, but it can be gained at many points in the future, he will not see 50Mill+ next year regardless of where he is picked.

I bet the Panthers are officially irked.

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I wouldn't want to play for the Panthers either. lol

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Wow, he's going to lose out on a lot of $$

You can always finish up school later, gotta cash in while you can.

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[quote=SkinzWin;775727]Rumor has it Harbaugh is staying...[/quote]I'm not surprised now. I kind of figured that if one of them left than so would the other and vise versa. Then again, I still could be wrong.

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[quote=SkinzWin;775730]I wouldn't want to play for the Panthers either. lol[/quote]


That's what they said about the Rams, anything is possible.. I'd take the cash in a heartbeat.. Sam stayed at OU when he could have been the Number 1 pick, he got hurt in the first game the following season... He was very lucky last year due to the horrible QB class.

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Dumb move by Luck. Lienart did this in 2005 and went from sure No. 1 to the 10th pick in 2006 - Lost (literally) millions. Plus, as a second contract is no guarrantee, play your winning lottery ticket and then go back to school (or do it in the off season, part-time, etc.)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775737]That's what they said about the Rams, anything is possible.. I'd take the cash in a heartbeat.. Sam stayed at OU when he could have been the Number 1 pick, he got hurt in the first game the following season... He was very lucky last year due to the horrible QB class.[/quote]

He is also somewhere between mediocre and freaking really good on the QB scale. You can probably place where he is on that scale. That might have something to do with it. I think he'd look mighty fine in Burgundy and Gold myself...

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[quote=Mattyk;775731]Wow, he's going to lose out on a lot of $$

You can always finish up school later, gotta cash in while you can.[/quote]

Rookie cap may kick in for this year's draft. He wouldn't have known before he had to declare anyway

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[quote=SmootSmack;775740]Rookie cap may kick in for this year's draft. He wouldn't have known before he had to declare anyway[/quote]

Yeah but that's a 50 million dollar gamble and the odds are a lot better than the lotto. By the way, did I mention that I am the winner of the unclaimed Mega Millions lottery ticket in Idaho?

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[quote=SmootSmack;775740]Rookie cap may kick in for this year's draft. He wouldn't have known before he had to declare anyway[/quote]

Please explain

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[quote=SkinzWin;775743]Yeah but that's a 50 million dollar gamble and the odds are a lot better than the lotto. By the way, did I mention that I am the winner of the unclaimed Mega Millions lottery ticket in Idaho?[/quote]

Did I mention SkinzWin is the smartest most knowledgeable Skins fan on this board. I definitely think he shows ultimate class all the time.

Can I borrow a few bucks?:cheeky-sm

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[quote=SkinzWin;775727]Rumor has it Harbaugh is staying...[/quote]

Where did you hear that? Our very own Smootsmack reported that he's close to a deal with the Dolphins...

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Luck had his reasons. the panthers may now go after Newton or Locker.bottom line is the redskins will now have fewer options at finding a QB in the 1st round.may have to look into round 2.

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[quote=SmootSmack;775740]Rookie cap may kick in for this year's draft. He wouldn't have known before he had to declare anyway[/quote]

for this year's draft? That would mean a new CBA would have to be in place before the draft right?

The fact that this draft even might be the last one w/out a rookie cap & you're the virtually guaranteed #1 makes it twice as surprising to me that he would stay at stanford. He really could lose $40 mil even if he is still the #1 in 2012.

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[quote=skinsfan57;775750]Luck had his reasons. the panthers may now go after Newton or Locker.bottom line is the redskins will now have fewer options at finding a QB in the 1st round.may have to look into round 2.[/quote]

I would question whether they pick a QB at #1, given they have clausen & there's no qb on par w/ Luck. Maybe they'll want Donovan now? :)

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[quote=GMScud;775748]Where did you hear that? Our very own Smootsmack reported that he's close to a deal with the Dolphins...[/quote]

Yeah, but I later said I just heard from a former Stanford player who's still connected to the program that Harbaugh is staying...so honestly, I don't know. But the guy who told me Harbaugh is staying told me the same about Luck in December. I didn't believe him about Luck...maybe I should about Harbaugh

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This is a big mistake not just because of the money but he is loosing 3 All-Star O-Line men.

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Eh, maybe we focus on other needs and make a run at Luck next year. An expert I am not, but most experts think this guys is as about a sure thing franchise QB as you can get. Every team knows this though, so the chances of us getting him are very slim.

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I'd have taken the money.

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No money is guaranteed. Technically it is a 50 million dollar gamble, because SmootSmack is right, a new CBA could be struck before the draft and it would probably include a rookie cap for this year's draft. So he might not be losing much, unless he goes back to school, stinks it up like Locker, and ends up losing major draft position in next year's draft. Or maybe Luck isn't concerned about the money at all, and would rather have another awesome year of college before heading to the NFL. Sucks for the Panthers now though, because Luck was the only consensus #1. I have no idea who they'll go after now.

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[quote=GMScud;775748]Where did you hear that? Our very own Smootsmack reported that he's close to a deal with the Dolphins...[/quote]


[quote=SmootSmack;775754]Yeah, but I later said I just heard from a former Stanford player who's still connected to the program that Harbaugh is staying...so honestly, I don't know. But the guy who told me Harbaugh is staying told me the same about Luck in December. I didn't believe him about Luck...maybe I should about Harbaugh[/quote]

There is my source.

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[quote=SmootSmack;775754]Yeah, but I later said I just heard from a former Stanford player who's still connected to the program that Harbaugh is staying...so honestly, I don't know. But the guy who told me Harbaugh is staying told me the same about Luck in December. I didn't believe him about Luck...maybe I should about Harbaugh[/quote]

Ahh, I see.

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We dodged a huge bullet, at least for now. Hopefully an AFC team get's their hands on next years number one pick.

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[quote=skinsfan57;775750]Luck had his reasons. the panthers may now go after Newton or Locker.bottom line is the redskins will now have fewer options at finding a QB in the 1st round.may have to look into round 2.[/quote]not at #1 overall.

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[quote=skinsfan57;775750]Luck had his reasons. the panthers may now go after Newton or Locker.bottom line is the redskins will now have fewer options at finding a QB in the 1st round.may have to look into round 2.[/quote]

The guy from Missouri will probably be the first QB taken now. Newton is a wild card but I doubt he will go first overall, rather the Panthers will take another year and try to find out what they have in Clausen while drafting a replacement along the D-Line for Peppers. My guess is they have a toss up between DaQuan Bowers (DE Clemson) and Nick Fairley (DT Auburn).

Locker is a late first round pick. Ironically Mallet might be a second round pick now, which is kind of sad considering the main cause of that drop was his performance late in the Sugar Bowl.

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[quote=mooby;775779]No money is guaranteed. Technically it is a 50 million dollar gamble, because SmootSmack is right, a new CBA could be struck before the draft and it would probably include a rookie cap for this year's draft. [B]So he might not be losing much, unless he goes back to school, stinks it up like Locker, and ends up losing major draft position in next year's draft.[/B] Or maybe Luck isn't concerned about the money at all, and would rather have another awesome year of college before heading to the NFL. Sucks for the Panthers now though, because Luck was the only consensus #1. I have no idea who they'll go after now.[/quote]Or gets hurt. His family may be well off, but probably not well off enough to afford a $ 40-50M insurance policy. He should take the risk on the rookie cap for 2011, if he goes back it's as near 100% as possible that there will be a rookie cap for the 2012 draft.

Bad decision by Luck IMO. Also sucks for the Panthers, they could've rebuilt in short order around Luck. Now they'll have to see if Clausen can improve and develop into a solid NFL QB. Despite his bad year, I'm still cautiously optimistic he can develop if the Panthers get some help on the OL and at WR.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;775793]Or gets hurt. His family may be well off, but probably not well off enough to afford a $ 40-50M insurance policy. He should take the risk on the rookie cap for 2011, if he goes back it's as near 100% as possible that there will be a rookie cap for the 2012 draft.

Bad decision by Luck IMO. Also sucks for the Panthers, they could've rebuilt in short order around Luck. Now they'll have to see if Clausen can improve and develop into a solid NFL QB. Despite his bad year, I'm still cautiously optimistic he can develop if the Panthers get some help on the OL and at WR.[/quote]

The guys studying Architecture at Stanford. He will never have to worry to much about money, and personally he's got like a 90% chance of ending up with that Tom Brady/Peyton Manning contract once his rookie deal is up. Luck is way to talented to suffer a fall like that of Matt Leinart.

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how can anyone honestly say this is the right move ? this story never turns out well .. they won't go undefeated, they just came off an impressive BCS bowl, i'm sorry but this guy is dumb for this move ...

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[quote=DCtoAZ;775795]how can anyone honestly say this is the right move ? this story never turns out well .. they won't go undefeated, they just came off an impressive BCS bowl, i'm sorry but this guy is dumb for this move ...[/quote]

You must be an ASU fan :D

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[quote=Dirtbag359;775794]The guys studying Architecture at Stanford. He will never have to worry to much about money, and personally he's got like a 90% chance of ending up with that Tom Brady/Peyton Manning contract once his rookie deal is up. Luck is way to talented to suffer a fall like that of Matt Leinart.[/quote]

The Standford Architectural school and his scholarship are not going anywhere. If he is as good a student as people say, he can finish up his degree during the NFL off season. Easy.
The window for a big guaranteed rookie contract is small.
The life span of a football player is also small. You can only take so many hits and so many snaps.
Ask a player like Herschel Walker who needlessly left his most productive years and physical ability in Georgia. Where nobody really notices or cares. By the time he got to the NFL his body was already on it's down side.
[B]$50 million guaranteed [/B]goes a long way, even if he fails as a player. He could give up his scholarship and pay for the tuition himself if he wanted to, to finish his degree.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;775794]The guys studying Architecture at Stanford. He will never have to worry to much about money, and personally he's got like a 90% chance of ending up with that Tom Brady/Peyton Manning contract once his rookie deal is up. Luck is way to talented to suffer a fall like that of Matt Leinart.[/quote]I don't see him stinking it up like Leinart or Locker, but let's say Luck takes an akward hit to that throwing shoulder or elbow or plant knee and can't get back to what he was in 2010? And a degree in architecture from Stanford is nice, but it ain't going to land him $ 50M in guaranteed money in late April 2011.

Don't get me wrong, I value education....but $ 50M buys a lot of education.

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It kind of makes you want him more now doesnt it.

I cant fault someone for doing what they love no matter how much money is at stake. Maybe he'll have a bad season and slip to us in the 2012 draft when no one here wants him anymore?

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;775806]I don't see him stinking it up like Leinart or Locker, but let's say Luck takes an akward hit to that throwing shoulder or elbow or plant knee and can't get back to what he was in 2010? And a degree in architecture from Stanford is nice, but it ain't going to land him $ 50M in guaranteed money in late April 2011.

[B]Don't get me wrong, I value education....but $ 50M buys a lot of education.[/B][/quote]

Lol, $50 million will go a long way towards completing the Stanford Andrew Luck Center for Architecture and Design.