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<LI class=last jQuery1295552339917="282">[URL="http://www.csnphilly.com/01/19/11/Could-Haynesworth-be-headed-to-the-Eagle/landing_eagles.html?blockID=394089&feedID=704"][COLOR=#0073ae]Haynesworth to Philly?[/COLOR][/URL] <LI class=last jQuery1295552339917="282">i hope the skins don't do this. it would get whom- ever they play at qback killed

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Send his ass any where

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But like I said earlier, their are rumors of Philly going 3-4

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I know what my minimum asking price would be if I were Allen; a 2nd & 4th (conditional 3rd even), just what we gave up for McNabb. Or just give us a 1st.

The new GM in philly might actually make a deal like that, remember he dropped some pics last year to move up & get the graham kid DE from Michigan in the 1st round. That was in contrast to the way Joe Banner used to run things.

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[quote=dmek25;779233]<LI class=last jQuery1295552339917="282">[URL="http://www.csnphilly.com/01/19/11/Could-Haynesworth-be-headed-to-the-Eagle/landing_eagles.html?blockID=394089&feedID=704"][COLOR=#0073ae]Haynesworth to Philly?[/COLOR][/URL] <LI class=last jQuery1295552339917="282">i hope the skins don't do this. it would get whom- ever they play at qback killed[/quote]
Not to worry.....just run the NO huddle for a while. He'll be laying on the turf like a beached whale

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It's pure speculation on a reporters part. AH's old defensive line coach is now in Philly therefore he might go there.

I would put the chance of that happening b/n 1 and 5%. Andy Reid's too smart to bring in a jackass when he's got all that young talent. He already has one jackass there in Desean Jackson.

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Thats where he's going. Sorry, the voices in my head have revealed it. ;)
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I would love to unload him. I dont care where he goes.

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The only reason is because Washburn is the coach there, I guess you could say the same thing about Detroit, since Schwartz was also his coach and a more likely place for him to land.

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[quote=hooskins;779252]I would love to unload him. I dont care where he goes.[/quote]

Agree, He's more detrimental to us if he stays on our team than if he plays on any other team including a Divisional team. If the Eagles want him they will probably give us the best return.

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Say bye-bye to her...

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[quote=diehard;779273]Say bye-bye to her...[/quote]
please say bye bye to that avatar

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[quote=freddyg12;779241]I know what my minimum asking price would be if I were Allen; a 2nd & 4th (conditional 3rd even), just what we gave up for McNabb. Or just give us a 1st.

The new GM in philly might actually make a deal like that, remember he dropped some pics last year to move up & get the graham kid DE from Michigan in the 1st round. That was in contrast to the way Joe Banner used to run things.[/quote]

Well, I'm not confident that even he would make this deal. I mean, such a return would be beautiful, but it's not something that a team in a superior bargaining position is likely to offer, which will be the position that just about any team negotiating with the Redskins for AH is likely to be in.

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I would like to send him to Iraq

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Given our track record, Andy Reid would rob us blind in the move, and Haynesworth would proceed to dominate us twice a year for the next three or four years.

They brought in TO and took a chance on Vick, so it's not like he's against these kind of projects/characters.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2011/01/albert_haynesworth_numbers_amo.html]The Early Lead - Albert Haynesworth numbers among Jim Washburn's biggest fans[/url]

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LOL....if the Skins trade him inside the divison ............they would be nuts.

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The AH we don't want to see, if he's on another team, is a content, motivated AH. AH and this Washburn dude seem to like each other very much.

That said, this is just lolspeculation. Maybe they just hired Washburn so Antonio Dixon can develop into a beast.

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The Eagles would line him up over center (Rabach). At the snap of the ball Haynesworth would barrel over Rabach, then they both would lay on the ground and do nothing, except count paychecks.

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[quote=Stacks42;779292]The Eagles would line him up over center (Rabach). At the snap of the ball Haynesworth would barrel over Rabach, then they both would lay on the ground and do nothing, except count paychecks.[/quote]

I think he'd actually go for the QB while Rabach is hopelessly on the ground. Washburn and AH don't have major issues with each other.

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[quote=Giantone;779290]LOL....if the Skins trade him inside the divison ............they would be nuts.[/quote]

How about for a 2nd and conditional 4th? lol

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[quote=Giantone;779290]LOL....if the Skins trade him inside the divison ............they would be nuts.[/quote]

He's not Superman, we can handle it. Have you not seen Cam scramble? ;)

I don't see why the prospect of trading anyone is even being brought up by the press.

Can't trade veterans until a new CBA is in place. And if that happens after the draft, then what happens with AH?

Teams are allowed to trade draft picks without a CBA, but they are prohibited from trading players.

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[quote=44ever;779257]Agree, He's more detrimental to us if he stays on our team than if he plays on any other team including a Divisional team. If the Eagles want him they will probably give us the best return.[/quote]

I'd put the chances at close to zero percent that Shanahan lets him play in the division. It's like a AJ Smith/Vincent Jackson situation. He's apparently not good enough to play for us but he's too good to play for a division opponent. He'll either be traded outside our division, or sit on our bench for much of the year

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;779284]Well, I'm not confident that even he would make this deal. I mean, such a return would be beautiful, but it's not something that a team in a superior bargaining position is likely to offer, which will be the position that just about any team negotiating with the Redskins for AH is likely to be in.[/quote]

Agreed, don't get me wrong; I see the probability as very low, I'm just saying that last year's draft showed that Philly will make moves that in the past decade they wouldn't have. The one angle that the skins have is the same as the Eagles in the mcnabb trade; if you want him you've got to pay more cause you're in the division.

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Im not sure what constitutes as "conduct detrimental to the team" anymore but I would think an ongoing refusal to speak to your head coach would count as that, no? So maybe just maybe the Redskins show some back bone and suspend him as often as possible next year and dont trade him for .10 on the dollar.

It would probably turn into a huge distraction though so it probably wouldnt be worth it.....but wow I would enjoy it!

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[quote=sandtrapjack;779325]I don't see why the prospect of trading anyone is even being brought up by the press.

Can't trade veterans until a new CBA is in place. And if that happens after the draft, then what happens with AH?

Teams are allowed to trade draft picks without a CBA, but they are prohibited from trading players.[/quote]

So what happens if the league and players decide agree to keep the current rules in place for another year which gives them more time to come to an agreement? I ask cause this has been bantered on the radio and NFL network. If they agree to this prior to the draft are they elligable to trade players and are players FA's or are they under the same rules that applied this last year which kept some from becoming FA's?

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[quote=SmootSmack;779387]I'd put the chances at close to zero percent that Shanahan lets him play in the division. It's like a AJ Smith/Vincent Jackson situation. He's apparently not good enough to play for us but he's too good to play for a division opponent. He'll either be traded outside our division, or sit on our bench for much of the year[/quote]

I totally agree with this. Remember Allen said "we hope AH and McNabb come back next year." I know that was GM talk, but you have to guess that it was said in case the players are back so there is no anymosity.

I doubt the team trades to a division rival unless there is a huge offer for him which I doubt happens. I'd expect AH to be shopped to the Lions or Raiders and any other team outside the division but other wise AH will remain and hopefully put on a short leash. Let him suit up, keep him on the bench, and if he makes one comment suspend him for 3 games each time.

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[quote=SmootSmack;779387]I'd put the chances at close to zero percent that Shanahan lets him play in the division. It's like a AJ Smith/Vincent Jackson situation.[B] He's apparently not good enough to play for us but he's too good to play for a division opponent[/B]. He'll either be traded outside our division, or sit on our bench for much of the year[/quote]

Of course, that does make the most logical sense but, in this particular situation, if the price is right, I wouldn't pass it up. Neither do I believe the Skins would.

With that said, I, like every other Redskins fan would like to see him sent outside the division.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with him. Who knows, maybe he does stay put.

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[quote=GMScud;779286]Given our track record, Andy Reid would rob us blind in the move, and Haynesworth would proceed to dominate us twice a year for the next three or four years.

They brought in TO and took a chance on Vick, so it's not like he's against these kind of projects/characters.[/quote]

After reading this I'm convinced that we'd be better off carrying 52 guys on the roster while deactivating Haynesworth. If anyone can bring the best out of a head case like Haynesworth it's Andy Reid.

[quote=Stacks42;779292]The Eagles would line him up over center (Rabach). At the snap of the ball Haynesworth would barrel over Rabach, then they both would lay on the ground and do nothing, except count paychecks.[/quote]

The visions are getting worse.

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[quote=SBXVII;779400]So what happens if the league and players decide agree to keep the current rules in place for another year which gives them more time to come to an agreement? I ask cause this has been bantered on the radio and NFL network. If they agree to this prior to the draft are they elligable to trade players and are players FA's or are they under the same rules that applied this last year which kept some from becoming FA's?[/quote]
That scenario does not make sense actually.

The owners voted unanimously in 2008 to opt out of the current CBA, which means they cannot "extend" the current CBA.

They have to agree on a new CBA before March 5th. If not, there is no free agency signing period, no trades of veterans. The only thing that will happen is the draft.

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Hate to break to you all, but you are chasing wild geese with these lame scenarios that reporters drum up. I suggest you look up Darryl Gardener and Mike Shanahan to see exactly what is going to happen with Haynesworth.

(in case you are interested)
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1756473]DT was a disappointment last year - NFL - ESPN[/url]

Unless teams are willing to give compensation to Shanny/Allen's satisfaction (most likely a 2nd rounder), then they aren't going to let him go anywhere UNLESS he gives back a big portion of that bonus money or buys out of his contract.

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[quote]ot only did they convert the option bonus to a $21-million signing bonus, but they also added a voidable provision. In the provision, if Haynesworth pays back $26 million of his signing bonuses, then the 2011-2014 contract years void away.

That said, if Haynesworth were to default prior to 2011, then $16.8 million would be subject to forfeiture.
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Ok, we KNOW three things we can pretty much be assured of.

1) Albert isn't giving money back

2) No team is going to give him 16.8 million in guarantees so he can pay back the Redskins.

3) No team is going to give high compensation (2nd rounder and above) for AH AND have to pay his current salary. The only exception would be a desperate team like we were with Jason Taylor.


Don't plan on AH going anywhere regardless of the bullshit stories.

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Big Al is screwed. Either give up some of that guaranteed money so he can be traded or live the life of a benched player if he stays with the Skins.

I wonder if Big Al and Haslett ever got together after the season as Jim Haslett said he would do?

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I'm building a time machine that I hope can be used to send him back a couple of centuries - thousands of years ago. Maybe he will disapear with other great civilizations. Maybe they too will expect him to measure up to his size but fail due to his.......... (so many words can be used to label why he's worthless and a failure Il just leave it blank).

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[quote=Stacks42;779292]The Eagles would line him up over center (Rabach). At the snap of the ball Haynesworth would barrel over Rabach, then they both would lay on the ground and do nothing, except count paychecks.[/quote]

One problem with that, Haynesworth refuses to play with any effort at NT and in a 3-4, which Philly may be moving to.



Still...I do not want to trade him in-division, but it is tempting to trade him to the Eagles as they're moving to a 3-4...could hurt them and help up at the same time. Risky though.

He'll need a new # too.

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I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;779599]I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.[/quote]

yeah and those same morons will be the first to throw everyone under the bus when he plays well against us.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;779599]I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.[/quote]

Would you be willing to take that possible motivated but kicking twice a year for a 2nd and conditional 4th? That would essentially be McNabb for Haynesworth straight up. And I know that would not happen, but hypothetically....

We still could trade McNabb and come out a 4th-ish round pick ahead.