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skinsfaninok 03-02-2011 10:14 AM

2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Ok now that the Scouting Combine is over I figured we can start a mock draft thread, it doesn't have to be a "Final" Mock or anything just something for fun. You can Edit up until draft day and make your final mock. This is my Mock as of March 2nd LOL, lets see yours.



[CENTER][CENTER]1. Carolina Panthers- Daquan Bowers DE (CLEM)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]2. Denver Broncos- Patrick Peterson CB (LSU)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]3. Buffalo Bills- Blaine Gabbert QB (MIZZ)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]4. Cincinnati Bengals- Julio Jones WR (ALA)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]5. Arizona Cardinals- Von Miller OLB (TAMU)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]6. Cleveland Browns- AJ Green WR (UGA)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]7. San Francisco 49ers- Cam Newton QB (AU)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]8. Tennessee Titans- Nick Fairly DT (AU)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]9. Dallas Cowboys- Prince Amukamara CB (NEB)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]10. Washington Redskins- Robert Quinn OLB (UNC)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]11. Houston Texans- Marcell Darius DT (ALA)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]12. Minnesota Vikings- Jonathan Baldwin WR (Pitt)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]13. Detroit Lions- Aldon Smith DE (Mizz)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]14. STL Rams- Cameron Jordan DE (CAL)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]15. Miami Dolphins- Mark Ingram RB (ALA)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]16. Jacksonville Jaguars- Akeem Ayers OLB (UCLA)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]17. New England Patriots – Ryan Kerrigan DE (Pur)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]18. San Diego Chargers- Nate Solder OT (Col)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]19. NY Giants- Mike Pouncey C/OG (UF)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]20. TB Bucs- Adrian Clayborn DE (Iowa)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]21. KC Chiefs- Jimmy Smith CB (Col)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]22. Washington Redskins (via trade) Jake Locker QB (UW)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]23. Philadelphia Eagles- JJ Watt DE (Wis)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]24. New Orleans Saints- Ryan Williams RB (VT)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]25. Seattle Seahawks- Brandon Harris CB (Miami)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]26. Baltimore Ravens- Justin Houston OLB (UGA)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]27. Atlanta Falcons- Leonard Hankerson WR (Miami)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]28. New England Patriots- Aaron Williams DB (Texas)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]29. Cincinnati Bengals(Via trade)- Ryan Mallett QB (ARK)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]30. New York Jets- Derrick Sherrod OT (MISS ST)[/CENTER]
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[CENTER][CENTER]31. Pittsburgh Steelers – Gabe Carimi OT (Wis)
32. Green Bay Packers -Anthony Castonzo OT (BC)
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Alvin Walton 03-02-2011 12:31 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Care to explain that trade?

celts32 03-02-2011 12:46 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Hate the trade up scenario unless they got real creative and find a way to do it without giving up next years #1 pick. Typically a move up from your #2 pick into the mid 1st round area costs you the next years #1 pick. Would love to get Locker if that's the QB Shanny likes but would rather do it by trading back from 10...which I realize is not easy to do. If all trade attampts fail I would just draft Locker at #10 before I did a trade up for another #1 pick.

skinsfaninok 03-02-2011 01:55 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;787136]Care to explain that trade?[/quote]


I think we take Quinn at 10 because he's a true Impact player that we can't pass up.. Letting AC go makes me believe we will pursue another OLB in the draft/FA. I think Locker falls into the early 20's and we make a strong push back into the 1st round and take him.

CultBrennan59 03-02-2011 08:31 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Right now I agree with the first mock draft on this page, Quinn at 10, Locker later.

I personally believe we shouldn't draft a QB this year, but obviously the redskins must be thinking otherwise.

30gut 03-03-2011 02:54 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Here's my mock, the OP's is a bit more realistic then mine in regards to Locker:

10- RDE Cam Jordan
41- QB Jake Locker
5.- NT Sione Fua
5.- CB Ryan Jones
6.- RB Mario Fannin
7.-FS Mark Legree

FA-OT

SkinzWin 03-03-2011 09:42 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Here is my thought. The defense sucks. Cellar of the league last year. The offense is average. Show me a SB team that won with a terrible defense and average offense and I'll show you none. Because I'll show you a ton of SB winning teams with great defensive and average offensives.

That being said, I ONLY want a QB if we can get a project in a mid to late round. No point getting a good QB if most of the players around him are inept or incapable of making an impact. We need defensive help terribly and this needs to be a defensive dominated draft.

Pecking order for the draft:
#10:Von Miller or Quinn or Jordan
2nd Round: NT
Mid/Late round picks: DE, ILB, CB, WR, QB, RB

Lotus 03-03-2011 11:19 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=SkinzWin;787437]Here is my thought. The defense sucks. Cellar of the league last year. The offense is average. Show me a SB team that won with a terrible defense and average offense and I'll show you none. Because I'll show you a ton of SB winning teams with great defensive and average offensives.

That being said, I ONLY want a QB if we can get a project in a mid to late round. No point getting a good QB if most of the players around him are inept or incapable of making an impact. We need defensive help terribly and this needs to be a defensive dominated draft.

Pecking order for the draft:
#10:Von Miller or Quinn or Jordan
2nd Round: NT
Mid/Late round picks: DE, ILB, CB, WR, QB, RB[/quote]

Yes! Feed the front!

Monkeydad 03-04-2011 09:25 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=SkinzWin;787437]Here is my thought. The defense sucks. Cellar of the league last year. The offense is average. Show me a SB team that won with a terrible defense and average offense and I'll show you none. Because I'll show you a ton of SB winning teams with great defensive and average offensives.

That being said, I ONLY want a QB if we can get a project in a mid to late round. No point getting a good QB if most of the players around him are inept or incapable of making an impact. We need defensive help terribly and this needs to be a defensive dominated draft.

Pecking order for the draft:
#10:Von Miller or Quinn or Jordan
2nd Round: NT
Mid/Late round picks: DE, ILB, CB, WR, QB, RB[/quote]


Agreed completely on the first two picks, but I want to see a Guard and Center later on. Forget WR and RB, we can manage if we re-sign Moss and pick up a FA at both of those spots.

SmootSmack 03-04-2011 09:34 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
I must say in my nearly 15 years of being connected to the Redskins (beyond just being a fan) I've never been more uncertain this close to the draft of what the Skins might do. No free agency (for now at least) really throws things off.

Anyhow, right now I'll say we trade down or out of the 1st and go with Justin Houston and Ponder/Locker

MTK 03-04-2011 09:36 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
I'm on the Ponder bandwagon now, I'm hoping we can trade down a few spots from #10, go D with that pick, and then shoot for Ponder in the 2nd.

Daseal 03-04-2011 09:39 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
I'm with Matty on the Ponder bandwagon. Only with our first go offense. If Julio Jones is gone, trade down! This is an offensive league now. Unless we can pull a top tier NT, keep the pieces we have and build an offense.

SmootSmack 03-04-2011 09:44 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
I'm not sure I invited any of you on to my Ponder bandwagon...

Admittedly though, I go back and forth on whether Ponder will just be solid or if he has the chance to be great. I think at worst, he's solid. Locker on the other hand, could be far more impressive but at worst he could be abysmal. I guess it's about the risk you want to take.

There's been some McElroy rumors too, but if that were to happen it's not happening in the 1st two rounds

mredskins 03-04-2011 09:46 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
I say Ponder as well and have him start even if he is horrible he will play us into the Andrew Luck pick next year! =)

MTK 03-04-2011 09:49 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Ponder seems the most ready to step in and start. The more I read and see about this guy the more I like.

Monkeydad 03-04-2011 11:50 AM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Yep! I want the best lineman (either side of the ball) we can get at #10 and Ponder in the second if we HAVE to take a QB.

SkinzWin 03-04-2011 12:27 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=Monkeydad;787525]Agreed completely on the first two picks, but I want to see a Guard and Center later on. Forget WR and RB, we can manage if we re-sign Moss and pick up a FA at both of those spots.[/quote]

You are very much correct. I knew there was something I couldn't put my finger on when I wrote that I knew I was missing. We definitely need a center. RB is definitely bottom of the list. I think we can have a competent enough running attack without adding anyone. At least we have young guys in the RB stable for once.

mlmdub130 03-04-2011 12:55 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
BPA, period. if we use the #10 pick in the draft this year it HAS to be someone who can play now, we have way too many holes to fill. i would rather us trade down but if we cannot we have to get a player that will have immediate impact.

that said i think our most glaring hole is at nose tackle and that has to be priority number one, we can manage another season with grossman or whoever under center, but we can't go another season with a 3-4 defensive with no heart. the 3-4 defense is designed around a dominate nt and right now we don't have anything close. this 3-4 has switch has not been smooth to say the least, if shanny wants any success here in dc he has to realize that.

this draft will be very interesting to see which direction we head in, i firmly beleive the shanny's future here depends on the out come and performance of the players selected in this draft. if we draft an unsuccesful qb this team could be stuck on the bottom for a long time, i really hope whomever we get pans out. i honestly have no faith in the shannahan's but i really hope they can prove me wrong, nothing would make me happier than being wrong about them

Mechanix544 03-04-2011 02:10 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
I could see us trading down to the 24th pick with the saints, picking up their 3rd (our original third rounder) as well as a 6th rounder. The saints would then be in a position to snag a really good linebacker that they really need.

We could then get Phil Taylor, NT, draft Ponder with our second, and WR Greg Little with our 3rd round pick. Then the rest of our picks should be all OL and OLB's. Get the late rounders all in camp, and let em fight for a position, may the best rookie win... A roster spot.

skinsfaninok 03-04-2011 02:34 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81e98c93/Lombardi-mock-draft-2-0]NFL Videos: Lombardi mock draft 2.0[/url]

Monkeydad 03-04-2011 03:09 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[url=http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/the-prospects-you-need-to-know-at-the-nfl-owners-c,19284/]The Prospects You Need To Know At The NFL Owner's Combine | Sportsdome[/url]

musicmaster45 03-04-2011 06:13 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Either we go with OLB (Quinn, Miller, Smith) first round, Ponder second, and NT fua (he is a machine with athletic ability) in the 5th. Trade down with the saints would be a good option if Shanny wants locker. I don't like Phil Taylor. His weight seems to be an issue as well as his off the field actions.

Terpfan76 03-04-2011 06:19 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
I have pretty much no interest at all in Ponder at this time. He may be the guy most ready to step in and play now, but that doesn't make him the best choice. I'd rather take the guy that is a year or two away from starting and deal with Rexy for a year or two then to settle for a guy just because the fan base is clambering for him. Hell, Ponder might develop into a top notch qb, but his lack of arm strength is about as scary as Locker's accuracy issues. I'd rather just pass altogether on qbs this season and draft one next year. I feel that next years class will be much deeper.

BuckSkin 03-04-2011 06:29 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=Terpfan76;787661]I have pretty much no interest at all in Ponder at this time. He may be the guy most ready to step in and play now, but that doesn't make him the best choice. I'd rather take the guy that is a year or two away from starting and deal with Rexy for a year or two then to settle for a guy just because the fan base is clambering for him. Hell, Ponder might develop into a top notch qb, but his lack of arm strength is about as scary as Locker's accuracy issues. I'd rather just pass altogether on qbs this season and draft one next year. I feel that next years class will be much deeper.[/quote]

My shameless, obligatory Buckeye plug.......Terrell Pryor!

mlmdub130 03-04-2011 07:38 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=BuckSkin;787662]My shameless, obligatory Buckeye plug.......Terrell Pryor![/quote]

in 2012? i thought he was goin back to school and serving a five game suspension next year, unless i missed something

BuckSkin 03-04-2011 07:42 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=mlmdub130;787670]in 2012? i thought he was goin back to school and serving a five game suspension next year, unless i missed something[/quote]

Yeah, in 2012. He's returning for his Sr year, facing the suspension. I was responding to idea of waiting for a deeper QB draft next year.

Dirtbag59 03-04-2011 08:44 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=mlmdub130;787670]in 2012? i thought he was goin back to school and serving a five game suspension next year, unless i missed something[/quote]

Poor Terrell. If he had gone to an SEC school he would have had the best lawyers money can buy. All that would need to happen is a defacto suspension from the SEC that will magically get overturned by the NCAA, so long of course as he's making money for the BCS big cats.

BuckSkin 03-04-2011 09:12 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
If he had attended an SEC school he could have made some REAL money, not just a couple " tats". I'm not saying..... Just saying.

30gut 03-04-2011 09:53 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=30gut;787329]Here's my mock, the OP's is a bit more realistic then mine in regards to Locker:

10- RDE Cam Jordan
41- QB Jake Locker
5.- NT Sione Fua
5.- CB Ryan Jones
6.- RB Mario Fannin
7.-FS Mark Legree
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Completely idealistic unrealistic address every need in 1 draft draft:

10- Tyron Smith OT
41- Marvin Austin NT-RDE
5- Ricky Stanzi QB
5-Ugo Chinasa conversion DE to OLB
6- Brandon Bair conversion DT to RDE
7- Marion Fannin -RB

UDFA Josh Portis

SmootSmack 03-07-2011 01:51 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
Totally guessing but

1. Gabbert
2. Peterson
3. Newton
4. Julio Jones
5. Von Miller
6. AJ Green
7. Cam Jordan
8. Nick Fairley
9. Prince Amukamara

skinsfaninok 03-07-2011 01:52 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=SmootSmack;787853]Totally guessing but

1. Gabbert
2. Peterson
3. Newton
4. Julio Jones
5. Von Miller
6. AJ Green
7. Cam Jordan
8. Nick Fairley
9. Prince Amukamara[/quote]

LOL where is our prediction?

SmootSmack 03-07-2011 01:58 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;787854]LOL where is our prediction?[/quote]

We'll have those results...after the break

skinsfaninok 03-07-2011 01:59 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=SmootSmack;787856]We'll have those results...after the break[/quote]

haha

GTripp0012 03-07-2011 02:28 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=SmootSmack;787537]I'm not sure I invited any of you on to my Ponder bandwagon...

Admittedly though, I go back and forth on whether Ponder will just be solid or if he has the chance to be great. I think at worst, he's solid. Locker on the other hand, could be far more impressive but at worst he could be abysmal. I guess it's about the risk you want to take.

There's been some McElroy rumors too, but if that were to happen it's not happening in the 1st two rounds[/quote]McElroy isn't my favorite of the mid-late round guys, but too often, guys in that 4th-6th round range don't get the same opportunity as rookies that 1st rounders get. On this team, if we addressed QB in the fourth round, they would get a shot to play as a rookie.

Ultimately, that's why Kyle Orton is relevant in this league and why every other fourth round QB since is irrelevant. Orton played (and was horrible) as a rookie because the Bears had no one else. Grossman was supposed to be the starter for that team, but was hurt in the preseason (his broken leg year). Just drawing the obvious parallel.

skinster 03-07-2011 02:37 PM

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1. Panthers-Gabbert-new head coach needs a franchise qb and someone to give him job security for a few years.
2. Broncos-Bowers-John Fox is gonna want his Julius Peppers back
3. Bills- Nick Fairley- CJ spiller pick tells us they draft for athleticism, and they need help at the DE position. They want a qb like theres no tomorrow, so Newton might be a pick here, but I really just don't believe anyone besides Gabbert is going in the top 10...then again they do like to reach for precieved need (Spiller).
4. Bengals-Marcell Dareus- they don't need a corner, and Simpson/Caldwell shined when they started the last three games. Plus they have Shipley and Gresham.
5. Cardinals-Von Miller- Wisenhunt comes from Pittsburgh where they don't care as much about corners (granted he was their oc, I still think the idea stuck with him).
6. Browns-AJ Green-need and talent fit
7. 49ers- Patrick Peterson- IMO the best player in the draft
8. Titans- Cameron Jordan (or whoever they think is the best DL available)- Their head coach is a former O-lineman. I'm sure he values the importance of the line, but an O-line pick doesn't fit here.
9. Cowboys- Tyron Smith (or whoever they think is the best O-lineman available)- Jerry Jones isn't going another year with his quarterback on his butt.
10. Redskins- Julio Jones- Moss Gone=worst receiving corp in the league. I say we trade back into the first to get Locker later.

Monkeydad 03-07-2011 03:18 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=SmootSmack;787853]Totally guessing but

1. Gabbert
2. Peterson
3. Newton
4. Julio Jones
5. Von Miller
6. AJ Green
7. Cam Jordan
8. Nick Fairley
9. Prince Amukamara[/quote]

Usually on these top-10 lists, they leave the #1 spot as the one they reveal after commercials... :D

diehard 03-07-2011 03:46 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=skinster;787862]1. Panthers-Gabbert-new head coach needs a franchise qb and someone to give him job security for a few years.
2. Broncos-Bowers-John Fox is gonna want his Julius Peppers back
3. Bills- Nick Fairley- CJ spiller pick tells us they draft for athleticism, and they need help at the DE position. They want a qb like theres no tomorrow, so Newton might be a pick here, but I really just don't believe anyone besides Gabbert is going in the top 10...then again they do like to reach for precieved need (Spiller).
4. Bengals-Marcell Dareus- they don't need a corner, and Simpson/Caldwell shined when they started the last three games. Plus they have Shipley and Gresham.
5. Cardinals-Von Miller- Wisenhunt comes from Pittsburgh where they don't care as much about corners (granted he was their oc, I still think the idea stuck with him).
6. Browns-AJ Green-need and talent fit
7. 49ers- Patrick Peterson- IMO the best player in the draft
8. Titans- Cameron Jordan (or whoever they think is the best DL available)- Their head coach is a former O-lineman. I'm sure he values the importance of the line, but an O-line pick doesn't fit here.
9. Cowboys- Tyron Smith (or whoever they think is the best O-lineman available)- Jerry Jones isn't going another year with his quarterback on his butt.
10. Redskins- Julio Jones- Moss Gone=worst receiving corp in the league. I say we trade back into the first to get Locker later.[/quote]

As impressive Jones was at the combine, I wouldn't be happy to draft him at tenth overall. If you think about it, his game is a lot like Armstrong's.

skinster 03-07-2011 06:30 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
[quote=diehard;787873]As impressive Jones was at the combine, I wouldn't be happy to draft him at tenth overall. If you think about it, his game is a lot like Armstrong's.[/quote]

I would like to agree with you. I really don't put much value in the combine numbers. I'd ideally take him in the mid-late teens. I just feel that WR is going to be SUCH a need for us having armstrong as our 1, and then (Malcolm Kelly? Roydell Williams?) as our two. Not if, but when santana walks, we will have the worst WR corp in the league. I am also against reaching for players at positions of need, but in this scenario I empathize with taking him considering the severity of the lack of talent in our WR corp.

For the record though, if I was running the team, I would consider winning in the next season or two a lost cause. I would draft purely for talent and admit to rebuilding right now. Neither Shanahan nor Snyder would ever do that, and I think they will pick for need if it is not too far of a stretch. It might not be what I would do, but I don't criticize that way of thinking either.

CultBrennan59 03-07-2011 11:54 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
The difference between Julio and Armstrong is Julio is taller and more physical. They both have blazing speed. Potential is another thing, but then again we're just starting to find out about Armstrong in the NFL so he still has some potential to improve.

skinsfaninok 03-07-2011 11:59 PM

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 
For some reason I just have little faith in AA, guy has a great story and blazing speed, who knows maybe he is a diamond in the rough.. I hope so but I'm always thinking in the negative light when it comes to WRs, I guess it's because other than Moss we haven't had a good one in 10 plus years


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