Draft Sleepers
 

So in past years, I've had my eye on certain mid to late round picks (Zack Bowman, Connor Barwin, James Starks....[SIZE="1"]jevan snead[/SIZE]

But this year, I'm not sure anyone is really catching my attention.

How about the rest of you? Any draft sleepers?

[QUOTE=MoBass]I absolutely don't want the Redskins to draft Kyrie Irving. That would be my draft nightmare while I sleep[/QUOTE]

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I'm going to be a homer, but I'll at least post a link that Matty posted in the draft thread.
See Pat Irwin's sleeper - Tyrod Taylor!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f297a6/article/qbneedy-teams-might-wait-to-find-their-guy-in-round-2]NFL.com news: QB-needy teams might wait to find their guy in Round 2[/url]

I am talking about a 5th round pick at worst for a guy that may end up at wr, we need help there too. Another Hokie that might drop to the 7th or UDFA is RB Darren Evans. He isn't anything special but is a tough runner, would fit the zone scheme well, and will definitely do whatever it takes to make the team.

Otherwise, didn't get to see much outside of ACC & bowl games. Don't feel I can add much beyond what the scouts have already said.

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There a decent crop of 2nd tier RBs whom I would consider sleepers...look to last year, Blunt and Ivory were the top rookie RBs and neither were drafted.

This year is prime in the RBs department to pull a Shanny special, even though some of those "sleepers" look to be moving up on boards from what im hearing.

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Demarco Murray

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[quote=skinsfaninok;792979]Demarco Murray[/quote]

yup, hes one of them. cant believe hes not getting more hype

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[quote=Chico23231;792984]yup, hes one of them. cant believe hes not getting more hype[/quote]

Well he has injury issues but he's a pretty good RB when healthy, he is very good in Pass Catching also

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Sleepers....With six of our eight picks coming 5th round and beyond, we're going to need as many "sleepers" as we can possibly find. Andrew Lewis DT Syracuse, Jabari Fletcher OLB Appalachian State, Darvin Adams WR Auburn just to name a few I know are going to be overlooked in the draft, BIMO have upside with the right team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;792951]So in past years, I've had my eye on certain mid to late round picks (Zack Bowman, Connor Barwin, James Starks....[SIZE="4"]jevan snead[/SIZE]

But this year, I'm not sure anyone is really catching my attention.

How about the rest of you? Any draft sleepers?[/quote]

[B][SIZE="4"]WHAT??!! I can't hear you!!![/SIZE][/B]

:FIREdevil

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If round one takes too long and I've had a long day, I will be a draft sleeper.

Otherwise I'll go with Thomas Keiser, OLB from Stanford. Reasonably big, reasonably fast, and smart, so that he should adapt to the NFL quickly.

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I got lots of sleepers, which I feel like after I name them all they won't be considered sleepers anymore.

QB:
Ricky 'Brady' Stanzi
Greg McElroy


RB:
Taiwan Jones -Eastern Washington
Evan Royster
Noel Devine
Keith Payne- UVA
Dion Lewis- Pitt (Matt Millen called him the next Barry Sanders)

OL:
David Arkin - G - Missouri State
Will Rackley - G - Lehigh
Marcus Cannon - G/T - TCU
Lee Zimba - T - Auburn
Ryan Pugh - C - Auburn
Kris O'Dowd - C - USC
Brandon Fusco - C - Slippery Rock
Jake Kirkpatrick - C - TCU (2 time rimmington trophy winner)
Ryan Barthelome - C - Syracuse
Chase Beeler - C - Standford

WR:
Jeff Maehl - Oregon
Jeremy Kurley - TCU
DeAndre Brown - Southern Miss
Tyson Poots - Southern Utah
DJK - Iowa
Dane Sanzenbacker - Ohio st
Matt Szczur - Villanova

NT
Jerrell Powe - Ole miss
Kenrick Ellis - Hampton
anthony gray - Southern Miss
Sione Fua- Standford

OLB:
Kenny Rowe - Oregon
Bruce Miller - UCF

ILB:
Darrell Gamble - Georgia

CB:
Justin Rogers - Richmond
Davon House - New Mexico State
Korey Lindsey - Southern Illinois
Brandon Hogan - WVU
Jason Teague - TCU
Reggie Rembert - Air Force
Chimdi Chekwa - Ohio St.

FS:
Tejay Johnson - TCU

P:
Chas Henry - Florida

K:
Alex Henry - Nebraska
Dan Bailey - OSU
Wes Byrum - Auburn

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Well lets list sleepers that emerged last year and see if anyone thought they would amount to something.

LeGarrette Blount - RB - Bucs - This is one that we all figured was capable of doing some damage.

Tony Moeaki - TE - Cheifs - Didn't see that one coming. Wasn't dynamite but 300 yards for a 3rd round TE is pretty solid.

Koa Misi - OLB - Dolphins - I think some of us had him pegged as a possible impact player.

Mike Williams - WR - Bucs - I don't think anyone wanted to look at recievers last year.

Riley Cooper - WR - Philly - 5th round steal apparently.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;793014]Well lets list sleepers that emerged last year and see if anyone thought they would amount to something.

LeGarrette Blount - RB - Bucs - This is one that we all figured was capable of doing some damage.

Tony Moeaki - TE - Cheifs - Didn't see that one coming. Wasn't dynamite but 300 yards for a 3rd round TE is pretty solid.

Koa Misi - OLB - Dolphins - I think some of us had him pegged as a possible impact player.

Mike Williams - WR - Bucs - I don't think anyone wanted to look at recievers last year.[/quote]

James Starks came on pretty strong toward the end of the year

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(C-OG) Ryan Bartholomew from Syracuse. After you plug his name in your favorite search engine, I won't be the only one talking about him.

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Check that..... Cult mentioned him too.

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[quote=SmootSmack;793015]James Starks came on pretty strong toward the end of the year[/quote]

What about some players that ended up being sleepers from the 2008 and 2009 draft, because after reading midseason and end of season rookie reports a lot of guys drafted after round 2 were simply relegated to backup duty if anything at all.

I still contend though that it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players.

Only one I can find for now is Steve Johnson - WR - Buffalo. A 2008 7th round pick from Kentucky (SEC Pride ya'll) that just posted a 1,073 10 TD season....IN BUFFALO!

Here's some more:

2008:
Anthony Collins - OT - Cincinati - 4th round pick out of Kansas
Carl Nicks - OG - Saints - 5th Round pick out of Nebraska.
Davone Bess - WR - Dolphins - UDFA out of Hawaii.
Steve Slaton - RB - Texans - 3rd Round Pick out of West VA.

2009
Sebastian Vollmer - OT - Patriots - Second Round Pick out of Houston
DeAndre Levy - LB - Lions - 3rd Round pick out of Wisconsin.

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Slaton really hasn't done anything

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[quote=Dirtbag59;793028]What about some players that ended up being sleepers from the 2008 and 2009 draft, because after reading midseason and end of season rookie reports a lot of guys drafted after round 2 were simply relegated to backup duty if anything at all.

I still contend though that it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players.

Only one I can find for now is Steve Johnson - WR - Buffalo. A 2008 7th round pick from Kentucky (SEC Pride ya'll) that just posted a 1,073 10 TD season....IN BUFFALO!

Here's some more:

2008:
Anthony Collins - OT - Cincinati - 4th round pick out of Kansas
Carl Nicks - OG - Saints - 5th Round pick out of Nebraska.
Davone Bess - WR - Dolphins - UDFA out of Hawaii.
Steve Slaton - RB - Texans - 3rd Round Pick out of West VA.

2009
Sebastian Vollmer - OT - Patriots - Second Round Pick out of Houston
DeAndre Levy - LB - Lions - 3rd Round pick out of Wisconsin.[/quote]

Not sure what your point is. You're talking about just a few players. Plus, I mentioned Carl Nicks back in the winter of 2008. And 53Fan mentioned Vollmer. And I'm sure there's more

So I think "it's always the guys we've never heard of on draft day that end up being the good players" may be just a bit off base

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Davon House - New Mexico State ... Darrell Green 2.0 baby! But really, the guys got the instincts and the physical tools, he is a bit raw though. Also he was coached by Dwayne Walker, who was a pretty good Db coach here. And is endorsed by NM Redskin, booyah.
[url=http://youtu.be/J9g1Ff0odmc]YouTube - Davon House vs. San Diego St. (2010)[/url]

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RB-
Noel Devine (KR/PR/Change of pace/3rd down)
Dion Lewis "
Da'Rel Scott
Mario Fanin

OL-
John Moffit (is he really a sleeper?)
(C) Ryan Bartholomew

WR-
Stephen Burton
Ricardo Lockette

DL-
Brandon Bair conversion DT to 3-4 DE
Sione Fua NT
Ian Williams NT
Chris Nield NT

LB-
Ugo Chinasa conversion DE to OLB
KJ Wright LB
Alex Woooojack (Baby!!)

CB-
Demarcus Van Dyke
Ryan Jones
Kedrick Burney
Buster Skrine

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[quote=Chico23231;792961]There a decent crop of 2nd tier RBs whom I would consider sleepers...look to last year, Blunt and Ivory were the top rookie RBs and neither were drafted.

This year is prime in the RBs department to pull a Shanny special, even though some of those "sleepers" look to be moving up on boards from what im hearing.[/quote]

I agree with you completely about the mid-to-late round RB's. I consider most of them to be 3rd Down Back candidates (actually, more like change of pace RB candidates because I don't know if they can pass-protect). We should be able to get a good RB prospect late.

Two backs I like very much who may have moved up from "sleeper" to higher round status are Kendall Hunter (Ok St) and Delone Carter (Syr). I have been very impressed with Hunter every time I've seen him play but his lack of size (5-7, 200) may be an issue. I like everything about Delone Carter and I think he may have a good NFL career. He is bigger than Hunter at 5-9, 222 which should help him to endure the pounding a RB takes in the NFL. Jordan Todman (UConn) is another good prospect with NFL size who may have moved up since the Combine.

I'm trying to like DeMarco Murray as much as some others here do, but I just can't. He runs too high, he's always injured, and he just seems to lack toughness. Pass. Another player that I'm told to like but don't is Evan Royster. I've never seen him do anything on the football field that impressed me.

Two late round RB's who are blazing fast and can catch the ball are Da'Rel Scott (Md) and Nic Grigsby (Az). These guys are potential home run hitters and I think they'll get an opportunity with some team. I'd include Derrick Locke with this group if I didn't think that he's too slight for the NFL.

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Why not Pat Devlin? I can honestly see us taking him if we don't take a QB with our first two picks. If we don't take someone in the 5th, Pat Devlin looks like a good choice in the 6th. Some may even consider him with one of our 5th rounders.

In other words, I'll gladly lead the Pat Devlin bandwagon :P

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I think J Baldwin from Pitt will slip into the 3-4 round but will be a pretty good WR

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[quote=skinsfaninok;793098]I think J Baldwin from Pitt will slip into the 3-4 round but will be a pretty good WR[/quote]

Not to play semantics, but he's hardly a sleeper. His ability & issues have been well documented. He may fall that far but his talent is first round worthy. Wouldn't call him a sleeper, I'd call him a fairly calcuable risk.

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[quote=GreekSkin;793093]Why not Pat Devlin? I can honestly see us taking him if we don't take a QB with our first two picks. If we don't take someone in the 5th, Pat Devlin looks like a good choice in the 6th. Some may even consider him with one of our 5th rounders.

In other words, I'll gladly lead the Pat Devlin bandwagon :P[/quote]

I've been waiting for someone to say this. Devlin has been getting no love.

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He has what I love to see in a mid-late round QB. Pocket presence, pretty good mechanics, he's capable of making reads, and he's got a good enough arm.

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Well if you want to talk QB sleepers, Mustain and Massoli are two guys who, based on talent alone, are probably 1st maybe 2nd round picks, but Mustain's never been able to hold on to a starting job and Massoli has a record with illegal substances. May be worth a flyer in the 7th for either of them

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I think some people need to revisit the def. for [I]sleeper[/I].
Demarco Murray etc.

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[quote=SmootSmack;792951]....[SIZE="1"]jevan snead[/SIZE][/quote]


That poor guy can't even make a AFL squad....lol Got cut by Tampa Bay Storm before the season started.



Dwayne Harris - WR (ECU) would be my sleeper.

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[quote=SmootSmack;793104]Well if you want to talk QB sleepers, Mustain and Massoli are two guys who, based on talent alone, are probably 1st maybe 2nd round picks, but Mustain's never been able to hold on to a starting job and Massoli has a record with illegal substances. May be worth a flyer in the 7th for either of them[/quote]

Massoli is a pretty smart kid too isn't he? Graduated already anyway. Didn't he also lie about some of his problems too?

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[quote=freddyg12;793109]Massoli is a pretty smart kid too isn't he? Graduated already anyway. Didn't he also lie about some of his problems too?[/quote]

He's got a whole truck load of problems. To be clear, he's not someone I think the Skins should take a chance on in the 7th, but that some team probably would

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[quote=30gut;793105]I think some people need to revisit the def. for [I]sleeper[/I].
Demarco Murray etc.[/quote]

Do you mean Demarco Murray isn't a sleeper or that he is the definition of one?

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[quote=GreekSkin;793122]Do you mean Demarco Murray isn't a sleeper or that he is the definition of one?[/quote]He's been on the national scene forever and he's one of the top rated players at his position and considered at worst a 3rd round prospect.

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ok thought so and I agree