Redskins Draft Analysis Thread
 

I thought it might be interesting to hear from some fellow Redskins fans on their overall analysis and/or opinions concerning our draft. I'll get it started with my observations and comments.

Overall, I think we had a very good draft. The Skins seemed to come into this draft with a plan that included:

1. Targeting needs without straying to far from their draft value board.
2. Acquiring more picks to add depth to the team and to increase competition for roster spots.
3. Keeping their future picks.

I think they accomplished these goals, for the most part.

I think it was evident that the Skins wanted a pass rusher to play opposite Brian Orakpo as much as any other need. They got that player in Kerrigan and they did it the right way by trading down to get him about where he should have been drafted rather than giving away the store to get a higher rated pass rusher, like Von Miller.

We needed a run stopper in a big way. I think the Skins may have decided to pick Jenkins where they did because they rated him as the second best run stopper behind Phil Taylor and they weren't sure what they might do with their second 2nd Round pick, so they didn't want to take the chance of leaving that need unfilled.

I think the Skins may have made a mistake in the second round that cost them one of my favorite players in the draft, Stephan Wisniewski. I gathered that the Skins intended to draft Wis because SmootSmack posted that the Skins would go C next right before he had to sign off. Then, in his post draft news conference, Shanny was asked about not picking and OL high and he said that sometimes things happen in the draft such as another team picking the player you want right in front of you. I think that may have actually happened when Oakland picked Wis at #48 while we had the #49 pick.

The mistake was not trading up in front of Oakland to get Stephan because of his uncle Steve being a coach and a former OL great with the Raiders. Bruce Allen should have known the way they think in Oakland. Damn!

Picking Leonard Hankerson at #79 was a brilliant move! I think he'll be a very good NFL receiver for many years.

Helu was also a great pick. Whenever I saw him play in college, watching him run in an offense that is similar to the Skins' offense, in his one-cut-and-go style, I felt that he was a back that Shanny would like. I think he'll do well here.

If we could have gotten Wis, we could have folded our tent right after we got Helu, as far as I'm concerned, and we would have had a near perfect draft: OLB Kerrigan, DL Jenkins, C/G Wisniewski, WR Hankerson, RB Helu. Wow!

Honestly, I don't know much about the other players we picked, except one, but I'm hoping some of them can help us. The one exception is Chris Neild. I saw him play a number of times and I came away very impressed. I think Chris may turn out to be a good NFL player at NT. He was a very effective run-stopper in college and he is relentless. If Neild can help with the rotation at NT and we can move Jenkins to RDE, then we should have a much improved run defense.

Draft Grade: B.

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Neilid is my favorite pick. I foresee him starting this year. I also think that Kerrigan will start (and help free Rak to get 15 sacks while picking up 10 for himself). Jenkins will be part of the rotation but I think Carriker and Daniels will be opening day starters. Hankerson is another great value pick who could be a great starter for years to come. I really like the rb's chosen too.
I think this is the best Redskins draft, by far, in a long time. Of course that it isn't saying a lot. Not once did I completely shake my head trying to figure out what they were thinking. I think the only reach was Jenkins but I actually trust this staff to know what I don't.
I'd say B+

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;800119]I thought it might be interesting to hear from some fellow Redskins fans on their overall analysis and/or opinions concerning our draft. I'll get it started with my observations and comments.

Overall, I think we had a very good draft. The Skins seemed to come into this draft with a plan that included:

1. Targeting needs without straying to far from their draft value board.
2. Acquiring more picks to add depth to the team and to increase competition for roster spots.
3. Keeping their future picks.

I think they accomplished these goals, for the most part.

I think it was evident that the Skins wanted a pass rusher to play opposite Brian Orakpo as much as any other need. They got that player in Kerrigan and they did it the right way by trading down to get him about where he should have been drafted rather than giving away the store to get a higher rated pass rusher, like Von Miller.

We needed a run stopper in a big way. I think the Skins may have decided to pick Jenkins where they did because they rated him as the second best run stopper behind Phil Taylor and they weren't sure what they might do with their second 2nd Round pick, so they didn't want to take the chance of leaving that need unfilled.

I think the Skins may have made a mistake in the second round that cost them one of my favorite players in the draft, Stephan Wisniewski. I gathered that the Skins intended to draft Wis because SmootSmack posted that the Skins would go C next right before he had to sign off. Then, in his post draft news conference, Shanny was asked about not picking and OL high and he said that sometimes things happen in the draft such as another team picking the player you want right in front of you. I think that may have actually happened when Oakland picked Wis at #48 while we had the #49 pick.

The mistake was not trading up in front of Oakland to get Stephan because of his uncle Steve being a coach and a former OL great with the Raiders. Bruce Allen should have known the way they think in Oakland. Damn!

Picking Leonard Hankerson at #79 was a brilliant move! I think he'll be a very good NFL receiver for many years.

Helu was also a great pick. Whenever I saw him play in college, watching him run in an offense that is similar to the Skins' offense, in his one-cut-and-go style, I felt that he was a back that Shanny would like. I think he'll do well here.

If we could have gotten Wis, we could have folded our tent right then, as far as I'm concerned, and we would have had a near perfect draft: OLB Kerrigan, DL Jenkins, C/G Wisniewski, WR Hankerson. Wow!

Honestly, I don't know much about the other players we picked, except one, but I'm hoping some of them can help us. The one exception is Chris Neild. I saw him play a number of times and I came away very impressed. I think Chris may turn out to be a good NFL player at NT. He was a very effective run-stopper in college and he is relentless. If Neild can help with the rotation at NT and we can move Jenkins to RDE, then we should have a much improved run defense.

Draft Grade: B.[/quote]

Very good analysis. Could've been a A, but Day 3 wasn't as strong as the first 2 days. While we did address needs (backup S) (CB); I didn't like the players we got (Gomes and Thompson) when other more talented DB's were available. I like Robinson in the slot, Paul could develope into a decent WR; Hurt, played at Florida and can play both RG and LG; and Neil is arguably the best [B]true[/B] NT we have on our roster right now.

Draft Grade: [B]B-[/B]

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Draft philosophy: stockpile picks so that you can roll the dice as many times as possible. When you do pick, take hard working, high character folks (with a couple of exceptions). In so doing you respond simultaneously to two problems which have plagued us: lack of depth and lack of youth. For overall philosophy, a grade of A.

Draft execution: a little more troublesome. A first/second round combo of Jordan/Reed would likely be more productive than the Kerrigan/Jenkins combo. Also, not enough attention was paid to the trenches on both sides of the ball. For example, Jenkins and Neild alone will not fix the DL problems of lack of quality talent and lack of young depth (it is uncertain what kind of 3-4 DE Jarmon will be). The lack of attention to the trenches could have been remedied by taking 2 WR's instead of 3 and by not drafting safeties who lack cover skills and did not even start on their college team. Grade for execution: C+.

Overall grade: B

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I think selecting Jenkins was a good pick (to replace Haynesworth) at DE. When you compare the other legitimate 3 and 5 technique DL available in the draft, his value jumps a bit.

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First off, the FO did a great job in acquiring picks and I loved the philosophy. I think the last 4 picks were arguable the best at a value standpoint outside of Hankerson. I didnt like the WR and CB/S picks from Nebraska...I think much much better picks out there at that point.

I think this draft was the most surprising and intriguing not only from the Skins viewpoint which it certainly was, but in general leaguewide. Its because of the lockout and no free agency...but wow, very interesting. Alot of stuff just didnt make sense ie all those 3rd and 4th round QB going in the 1st and 2nd. The second round was just insane to me...a ton of effing reaches by alot of teams.

2 surprises from the Skins:
1. No QB taken (which I thought was brillant)
2. No prominent NT or ILB picks. Ive mention NT perspective in a couple threads, but think for a second about ILB...Rocky is NOT coming back and London is still effective, but is getting up there. Is this a free agency fill? I tend to think not, much more other needs. So are we going with Riley, Henson or One Man Gang next to London? I think(hope) so, but Id woulda thought a middle round pick woulda been spent there to add another piece for competition.

I think the grade is a B, kudos to the FO

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I'm going to grade this draft a B+ without any further elaboration. Anything I attempt to add will only be an extention to what has already been said over the course of the last three days.

Could we have done better? [maybe] we could also have done worse. I'm never satisfied but, will be content to watch the development of these young players.

:happybday Ray Parker Jr.

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/04/30/draft.steals.reaches/index.html#ixzz1L7au4FXn]2011 Draft: Steals and Reaches - NFL - SI.com[/url]

Not sure if this has been posted but here you go.

[quote]Leonard Hankerson/WR/Washington/Round 3/No. 79: Hankerson's inconsistency and untimely drops pushed him into the third round, yet he possesses the physical skills to be a productive second wide out on the NFL level. He will immediately help the receiver needy Redskins.
[/quote]


[quote]Roy Helu/RB/Washington/Round 4/No. 105: Helu was the second skill player the Redskins chose in round four. He's a triple threat running back who will compete for the starting position.[/quote]

[quote]Chris Neild/NT/Washington/Round 7/No. 253: The fact Neild was the second-to-last player selected is mind-blowing. He's a 320-pound slugger who brings his lunch pail to work every day and is a prospect coaches will love. Don't be surprised if he's starting by the end of his rookie season.[/quote]


Three of our picks hit Pauline's "Steals of the Draft" list. I've never heard anything remotely this positive about a Redskins draft prior. I would personally rank this draft currently with a A-. Incredible job by the front office. Let's hope these picks perform to their ability.

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very strong draft in my humble opinion. i think they added atleast three starters for next year and didn't mortgage anything away to get them, but instead gained more picks. i gave them a b in the warpath poll, it would have been an a+ if this would have been last years draft, still kills me we wasted a year of rebuilding trying to "win now", i hope that mentality is long gone.


kerrigan is gonna be a stud, seems to be a solid lock, i love this pick

don't know much about jenkins but, over 6' and over 300lbs, thats a nice frame to work with and hope we can groom him into a solid dt, nt, de or whatever they see fit for him

i think we might have gotten one of the biggest steals with hankerson time will certainly tell, but a wr from the U that holds the td record speaks volumes to me, especially since he did it with jacory harris, i mean come on.

it will be very interesting to see what royster can do, he had a pretty strong career at penn state, and he is a local kid so thats always a plus

and chris neild, love it. i'm a big wvu homer and this kid has potential, as long as he doesn't lose his drive he has a good chance at being an active member of the 53 man squad, i have a felling he will make the final cut but doubt we will see too much of him next year, but who knows what could happen along our d line. hopefully he can get capers going and we can have two wvu stud lineman

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[quote=NC_Skins;800139][url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/04/30/draft.steals.reaches/index.html#ixzz1L7au4FXn]2011 Draft: Steals and Reaches - NFL - SI.com[/url]

Not sure if this has been posted but here you go.









Three of our picks hit King's "Steals of the Draft" list. I've never heard anything remotely this positive about a Redskins draft prior. I would personally rank this draft currently with a A-. Incredible job by the front office. Let's hope these picks perform to their ability.[/quote]That's actually Tony Pauline writing, not King.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;800143]That's actually Tony Pauline writing, not King.[/quote]

Opps. Thanks for the correction. I edited that.

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[quote=Chico23231;800134]First off, the FO did a great job in acquiring picks and I loved the philosophy. I think the last 4 picks were arguable the best at a value standpoint outside of Hankerson. I didnt like the WR and CB/S picks from Nebraska...I think much much better picks out there at that point.

I think this draft was the most surprising and intriguing not only from the Skins viewpoint which it certainly was, but in general leaguewide. Its because of the lockout and no free agency...but wow, very interesting. Alot of stuff just didnt make sense ie all those 3rd and 4th round QB going in the 1st and 2nd. The second round was just insane to me...a ton of effing reaches by alot of teams.

2 surprises from the Skins:
1. No QB taken (which I thought was brillant)
2. No prominent NT or ILB picks. Ive mention NT perspective in a couple threads, but think for a second about ILB...Rocky is NOT coming back and London is still effective, but is getting up there. Is this a free agency fill? I tend to think not, much more other needs. So are we going with Riley, Henson or One Man Gang next to London? I think(hope) so, but Id woulda thought a middle round pick woulda been spent there to add another piece for competition.

I think the grade is a B, kudos to the FO[/quote]

Remember at ILB Henson was actually showing how he was a serious contender to start at some point over Rocky before he got hurt and put on IR.
[YT]FCuaY0RZE-c[/YT]

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If I'm going to lose ten games in a season I'd much rather lose them with young players growing and learning together through the maturation process, than losing with highly paid often injured older players no longer possessed with that burning desire.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;800119]I thought it might be interesting to hear from some fellow Redskins fans on their overall analysis and/or opinions concerning our draft. I'll get it started with my observations and comments.

Overall, I think we had a very good draft. The Skins seemed to come into this draft with a plan that included:

1. Targeting needs without straying to far from their draft value board.
2. Acquiring more picks to add depth to the team and to increase competition for roster spots.
3. Keeping their future picks.

I think they accomplished these goals, for the most part.

I think it was evident that the Skins wanted a pass rusher to play opposite Brian Orakpo as much as any other need. They got that player in Kerrigan and they did it the right way by trading down to get him about where he should have been drafted rather than giving away the store to get a higher rated pass rusher, like Von Miller.

We needed a run stopper in a big way. I think the Skins may have decided to pick Jenkins where they did because they rated him as the second best run stopper behind Phil Taylor and they weren't sure what they might do with their second 2nd Round pick, so they didn't want to take the chance of leaving that need unfilled.

I think the Skins may have made a mistake in the second round that cost them one of my favorite players in the draft, Stephan Wisniewski. I gathered that the Skins intended to draft Wis because SmootSmack posted that the Skins would go C next right before he had to sign off. Then, in his post draft news conference, Shanny was asked about not picking and OL high and he said that sometimes things happen in the draft such as another team picking the player you want right in front of you. I think that may have actually happened when Oakland picked Wis at #48 while we had the #49 pick.

The mistake was not trading up in front of Oakland to get Stephan because of his uncle Steve being a coach and a former OL great with the Raiders. Bruce Allen should have known the way they think in Oakland. Damn!

Picking Leonard Hankerson at #79 was a brilliant move! I think he'll be a very good NFL receiver for many years.

Helu was also a great pick. Whenever I saw him play in college, watching him run in an offense that is similar to the Skins' offense, in his one-cut-and-go style, I felt that he was a back that Shanny would like. I think he'll do well here.

[B]If we could have gotten Wis, we could have folded our tent right after we got Helu, as far as I'm concerned, and we would have had a near perfect draft: OLB Kerrigan, DL Jenkins, C/G Wisniewski, WR Hankerson, RB Helu. Wow!
[/B]
Honestly, I don't know much about the other players we picked, except one, but I'm hoping some of them can help us. The one exception is Chris Neild. I saw him play a number of times and I came away very impressed. I think Chris may turn out to be a good NFL player at NT. He was a very effective run-stopper in college and he is relentless. If Neild can help with the rotation at NT and we can move Jenkins to RDE, then we should have a much improved run defense.

Draft Grade: B.[/quote]

we couldn't have gotten wisniewski AND hankerson, since we drafted hankerson with the 3rd rounder we got from trading back in the 2nd, if im not mistaken. if its one or the other, im good with hankerson and getting more picks.

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Drafting Kerrigan was a solid choice in and of itself, but trading down and accumulating picks while drafting Kerrigan was a stroke of genius. Kerrigan can and should come in and start from day one and have a great impact-especially on Orakpo on the other side.

I was a bit surprised by the Jenkins pick, but in retrospect it makes plenty of sense. Our depth behind Carriker is PD and Holliday. Great guys but how much longer can we count on them to defy father time?

The fact that most everyone knew we were eyeing Hankerson in the mid 2nd, and we got him in the 3rd was another stroke of genius. I know the Shanahans still believe very strongly in MK but they're also preparing themselves instead of just waiting around for him. Hankerson should be another day one starter.

They showed so much interest this off-season in Royster, I actually thought there was no way they'd draft him. But they did. Royster and Helu are very solid, but neither wows me. But it's better to let two young guys battle it out than say LJ and Willie Parker.

I know nothing of Gomes or Nield for that matter

Robinson is a very good player, but I'm thinking practice squad. He's got a little Eddie Royal/Santana in him

I'm not concerned we didn't draft more than one OL. We have youth at the OL position.

It does bother me that we couldn't find a single QB out of 12 draft picks. Best as I can tell, we're the only team in the league without at least one QB under 30 years old. I hope that's not the case when the season starts.

Overall, I'm very pleased with most of the players we got and the fact we were able to maneuver the draft board well enough to add players and get most of the guys we wanted. But we should have added a QB somewhere along the way

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[quote=Longtimefan;800149]If I'm going to lose ten games in a season I'd much rather lose them with young players growing and learning together through the maturation process, than losing with highly paid often injured older players no longer possessed with that burning desire.[/quote]

:food-smil

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[quote=Big C;800150]we couldn't have gotten wisniewski AND hankerson, since we drafted hankerson with the 3rd rounder we got from trading back in the 2nd, if im not mistaken. if its one or the other, im good with hankerson and getting more picks.[/quote]

Good point.

I really would have liked more O-lineman than just a 7th rounder, but we have so many needs and you can only do so much with one draft. I imagine we'll sign at least a couple O-lineman in free agency.

I heard Todd McShay earlier say[URL="http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6446007"] there's absolutely no chance that Ryan Kerrigan is a bust[/URL]. Bill Parcells also said that whoever drafts him is gonna get a heckuva football player. Me likey.

My favorite pick was Hankerson, and Helu was very solid, too. Between those two, Neild, Kerrigan, and Jenkins, we could very well have 5 drafted rookies starting. So I'd call that a successful draft for the most part.

I'll give it a B+. The only reason it falls short of an A is because of the O-line.

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I'll go with a B too.
I'll also say this was the best fraking draft we've had in a long time.
I would have done things a bit differently though -

I would not have gone defense on the second pick and would have taken the best tackle or guard on the board.
Same thing with the 4th and first 5th round picks (however I do like Helu now that we have him)

We may have gotten four starters from this draft.
:food-smil

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I added up each picks value against my big board, and the only three teams that are getting A grades from me this year are the Giants, the Redskins, and...the Vikings?

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With regard to the O-line- one thing that does make me feel a bit better about not drafting any players before the 7th round is that this was a particularly weak draft for tackles and guards.

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[quote=GTripp0012;800172]I added up each picks value against my big board, and the only three teams that are getting A grades from me this year are the Giants, the Redskins, and...the Vikings?[/quote]

Is your big board/draft grading available for viewing anywhere?

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I like our picks we drafted for need and I think we didn't leap for anyone we had six picks got as many as 13 and ended up with 12 good character guys some a little raw put they show alot of potential. B is my grade. I'm happy we didn't draft a QB don't give into media or the fans do what's in the best interest of the TEAM. HTTR.

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[quote=GMScud;800176]Is your big board/draft grading available for viewing anywhere?[/quote][url=http://liveballsports.com/2011/04/27/liveball-sports-2011-nfl-draft-big-board/]LiveBall Sports’ 2011 NFL Draft Big Board « LiveBall Sports[/url]

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[quote=GTripp0012;800181][URL="http://liveballsports.com/2011/04/27/liveball-sports-2011-nfl-draft-big-board/"]LiveBall Sports’ 2011 NFL Draft Big Board « LiveBall Sports[/URL][/quote]

Nice, thanks.

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[quote=Longtimefan;800149]If I'm going to lose ten games in a season I'd much rather lose them with young players growing and learning together through the maturation process, than losing with highly paid often injured older players no longer possessed with that burning desire.[/quote]
If you could shorten this thought to maybe 3 words, I'd get a T-shirt made......
EXCELLENT!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;800160]Drafting Kerrigan was a solid choice in and of itself, but trading down and accumulating picks while drafting Kerrigan was a stroke of genius. Kerrigan can and should come in and start from day one and have a great impact-especially on Orakpo on the other side.
[/quote] I'm glad the Jags dug themselves such a deep hole with Garrard that they felt like they had no choice but to trade up to cleanse themselves of their own mess.

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[quote=GMScud;800173]With regard to the O-line- one thing that does make me feel a bit better about not drafting any players before the 7th round is that this was a particularly weak draft for tackles and guards.[/quote]

Well maybe not at the top in terms of Guards. Actually I think one could easily make a case that at the top this was the best Guard class to come along in years. Pouncey, Franklin, Moffit, Canon, Boling, and even though he went in the 5th round how can you not like a guy named Kilgore, though having him block for someone named Gore might make things awkward.

Also I have to admit I did kind of like the lanky tackles in this class as they were surprisingly athletic with guys like Solder, Castanzo (a-hole), and Tyron Smith. So for a zone blocking team like us we would have been fine if we really need to find a left tackle. Though collectively last years tackle class was leaps and bounds above this years and none of those guys will be on the same level as Trent.

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[quote=SmootSmack;800160]Drafting Kerrigan was a solid choice in and of itself, but trading down and accumulating picks while drafting Kerrigan was a stroke of genius. Kerrigan can and should come in and start from day one and have a great impact-especially on Orakpo on the other side.

I was a bit surprised by the Jenkins pick, but in retrospect it makes plenty of sense. Our depth behind Carriker is PD and Holliday. Great guys but how much longer can we count on them to defy father time?

The fact that most everyone knew we were eyeing Hankerson in the mid 2nd, and we got him in the 3rd was another stroke of genius. I know the Shanahans still believe very strongly in MK but they're also preparing themselves instead of just waiting around for him. Hankerson should be another day one starter.

They showed so much interest this off-season in Royster, I actually thought there was no way they'd draft him. But they did. Royster and Helu are very solid, but neither wows me. But it's better to let two young guys battle it out than say LJ and Willie Parker.

I know nothing of Gomes or Nield for that matter

Robinson is a very good player, but I'm thinking practice squad. He's got a little Eddie Royal/Santana in him

I'm not concerned we didn't draft more than one OL. We have youth at the OL position.

It does bother me that we couldn't find a single QB out of 12 draft picks. Best as I can tell, we're the only team in the league without at least one QB under 30 years old. I hope that's not the case when the season starts.

Overall, I'm very pleased with most of the players we got and the fact we were able to maneuver the draft board well enough to add players and get most of the guys we wanted. But we should have added a QB somewhere along the way[/quote]

So SS, what should we have done in terms of drafting a QB? Take Gabbert at 10? Just curious.

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Seemed like there was a plan in the Skins warroom this year and they stuck to it. I really don't believe they had any reaches in the truest term. I'd have like for the team to have gotten Rodney Hudson, but I'm not overly upset about that.

I really like Roy Helu to potentially be our next Portis type back although not nearly as good of a blocker, but Royster is, and should get a look as a 3rd down back.

Paul has good size/speed 4.46/6' 223lbs and is an elusive runner and an excellent punt returner. Should be a potentially solid possession receiver. Has no fear of going over the middle.

Aldrick Robinson is small, 5'9" 183lbs, but has excellent speed (4.36) and quickness. Not a great route runner but will be a heckuva vertical threat with soft hands.

Maurice Hurt could possibly be the steal of our draft. He can play either guard position and has played tackle as well. At 6'3" 320lbs, he's a little smaller than desired, but not terribly so. He may end up a year 1 starter although that would be less than ideal.

Neild is a high effort guy with good size/strength. He'll do pretty well at NT but not so much so as to be readily noticeable. He'll be a solid player that gets the job done if all goes well, otherwise, probably a decent player in a the rotation. FWIW, I really hate saying anything remotely nice about WVU players. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire lol... Go Terps!!

Sporting News gave us a C+ but I think that has a lot to do with the fact we didn't get a qb. I'm glad we didn't, none really acquitted themselves of being elite franchise qb's and while it might be nice to have a young kid on the roster to groom as a potential back up, we can do the same looking at UDFAs. All in all, I say we get a B but possibly better if some of the late round picks work out.

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I like the picks, but what I don't like is exactly what some have already said. To me it looks like the scouting staff may have been doing their jobs all the way until that went to Nebraska to visit one player and then got suckered into looking at 2 others. Similar to what happened back when the team explored Carlos Rogers. All of a sudden they are looking at a QB (JC) and reaching for him.

I'm not saying that are not good but there were other players on the board that were far more talented at their respected positions but for some reason the scouting seemed to have gotten lazy after visiting Nebraska and threw together a bunch of picks just to fill in gaps. As stated I would have preferred more OL in the later rounds in the hopes of replacing a few underachievers from last year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;800172]I added up each picks value against my big board, and the only three teams that are getting A grades from me this year are the Giants, the Redskins, and...the Vikings?[/quote]

WTF? I thought the Lions stole the draft taking positions of need that would start immediatley. The Vikes did well, as did the Eagles I felt.

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[quote=GMScud;800173]With regard to the O-line- one thing that does make me feel a bit better about not drafting any players before the 7th round is that this was a particularly weak draft for tackles and guards.[/quote]

I'll agree with you in regards to LT's. But I think any of them would have been better RT's then what we have. I also think we could have picked up a Center who is definitely better then Rahback.

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[quote=SBXVII;800211]WTF? I thought the Lions stole the draft taking positions of need that would start immediatley. The Vikes did well, as did the Eagles I felt.[/quote]

The Lions follow BPA to a T.

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[quote=SBXVII;800211]WTF?[B] I thought the Lions stole the draft taking positions of need that would start immediatley[/B]. The Vikes did well, as did the Eagles I felt.[/quote]

The Lions got perhaps the steal of the 1st round with Fairley at 13.

But as far as drafting players who will start immediately, you could argue the same with the Skins. Kerrigan, Hankerson, and quite possibly Helu and Jenkins are all potential starters. Neild could push Bryant at NT, too.

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[quote=GMScud;800218]The Lions got perhaps the steal of the 1st round with Fairley at 13.

But as far as drafting players who will start immediately, you could argue the same with the Skins. Kerrigan, Hankerson, and quite possibly Helu and Jenkins are all potential starters. Neild could push Bryant at NT, too.[/quote]

Don't get me wrong I think we did very well also taking players we needed. We needed a NT they got one and quite possibly a really good one. He was a NT in college and knows his job is to take up space and help stop the run.

Kerrigan will definitley be an upgrade and will help take some of the heat off of Rak.

Jenkins will most likely command double teams if Neild does not at NT so both Rak and Kerrigan should be freed up to crush the QB.

We had a definit need for a big body WR. Now we have AA, Hankerson, and Paul.

I might have foregone one RB and taken a Center to relieve Rahback or a RT since were not sure if the person expected to play that position can stay healthy. Atleast fix the foundation LT, C, RT then work on the gaps. We filled the LT last yr so it would have been nice to see either C, or RT fixed and the other fixed in FA.

But the Lions are going to have a Killer defense now but I would also say I think they started their "rebuild" a year or two prior to us so their needs were fewer. We had needs all across the board.

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I just don't see Neild as a NT, at least a good one. He's a Golston clone which isn't all bad.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;800188]I'm glad the Jags dug themselves such a deep hole with Garrard that they felt like they had no choice but to trade up to cleanse themselves of their own mess.[/quote]

David Garrard isn't a bad QB in the least. They need a few more receiver threats to be worth a damn. They finally shored up the OL the past couple years because he was getting wrecked. He's not going to be All-Pro but he's better than what most people give him credit for.

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I think we had a great draft. I'd give us a solid A. Like Smoot I'm really not concerned about our lack of OLinemen taken. We have young players that by all accounts should be improved. I doubt anyone stuck out at them in this draft. I would have liked to see a QB but I think we can still address that (if the league lets us that is). I think we did well drafting players that can help immediately or at least by next season.

btw Nbcsports game us an A- only because we didn't take a QB

[url=http://drafthq.nbcsports.com/team_picks.aspx]NFL Draft HQ - Team Draft Picks[/url]

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I really hope two things.... when the players were able to show up to the facility on Fri. the coaching staff was smart enough to hand Fletcher a few "Playbooks" to hand to the Rookies for them to start studying. Probably didn't happen but it would be nice.

I also hope the team takes a moment and really looks at the UDFA's and decides who should be contacted immediatly when the players are allowed back at the facility. I hope OL is looked at, CB/S, K/P, FB, and maybe other WR's.

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Jamie Dukes of NFLN says that we are now in play for Luck in next year's draft. I'm beginning to dislike that guy.