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Gmanc711 12-22-2004 12:10 PM

Skins Probowlers
 
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Marcus Washington is the only guy representing the Redskins. I love Marcus Washington, and its deserved. But how in the HELL is Griffin not in there. I could make argumetns for Smoot/Springs, but you can make valid arguments as to why they are not in there. BUT HOW THE HELL IS Griffin not in there!?!? Would anyone like to attempt to explain this to me?

Alternates include Portis(1st alternate), S. Taylor (1st).

Smoot, Peirce and Tupa, All second alternates

Shawn Springs is a third alternate

.... and wait for it......
CORNEULIS GRIFFEN IS A FOURTH ALTERNATE!!!!!!!!!!! :doh:

MTK 12-22-2004 12:47 PM

I really don't know how Griffin is just a 4th alternate.

I'm not sure of the stats but is there a DT in the league with more tackles?? Plus he's got 5 sacks.

manicd 12-22-2004 12:52 PM

I think it's good. Wouldn't these guys get more money if they get sent to the probowl? I think I remember specifically hearing Taylor had incentives in regard to that. Wouldn't it hurt us financially if all these guys went to the probowl?

FRPLG 12-22-2004 01:18 PM

Griffin got whored

Redskins_P 12-22-2004 01:25 PM

I just don't understand how Trotter made it, and Pierce didn't. Freaking BS.

saden1 12-22-2004 01:42 PM

There is no question, or players got Snubbed. Why? Probably because we aren't getting the buzz in the media.

saden1 12-22-2004 01:43 PM

Trotter didn't even play a full season. It is all blood sucking poli-ticks.

ATL_Skin36 12-22-2004 02:03 PM

Way too many Iggles got invites.....typical! But i'm used to it.....this whole thing is BS every year.....Ahman Green doesn't deserve a place above certain other's....

celts32 12-22-2004 02:47 PM

I try not to get to worked up over this pro bowl stuff. Pro Bowl balloting is a popularity contest mostly and secondly a reward for winning teams. If the Redskins had a winning record most of those guys mentioned would be probowlers. Trotter made the Pro Bowl for the Eagles and he has only been starting a few weeks. And it's mostly becasue they are 13-1.

And a lot of times guys make it a year after they should have becasue word gets around the league that they got hosed. I bet a lot of these Redskins make it next year even if they don't play as well.

firstdown 12-22-2004 02:57 PM

Trotter over Pierce his stats are no where near those of Pierce. The only good news from Pierce not getting in is that he is a free agent this year and his value and intrest from other teams would of increased.

Big C 12-22-2004 03:23 PM

trotter is a mystery to me...58 tackles=pro bowl i suppose...yeah right. friggen griffen had more than him, i dont care how long trotter has been playing this season, he doesnt deserve a 20th alternate spot

JWsleep 12-22-2004 03:57 PM

Pathetic. Griffen is an absolute snub. Well, that's what you get if you're 5-9.

Look on the bright side, though. Now these guys will have an even BIGGER chip on their shoulder, for the remainder of this season and next year. The more we get overlooked and undersetimated, the better, I say. Don't get mad, get even. Kick some ass on the football field.

ChillWill 12-22-2004 04:04 PM

How did Chris Samuels get invited last year?

Its all politics and marketing.

manicd 12-22-2004 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=firstdown]Trotter over Pierce his stats are no where near those of Pierce. The only good news from Pierce not getting in is that he is a free agent this year and his value and intrest from other teams would of increased.[/QUOTE]

That is what I was asking earlier. Does anybody know what it would cost if all these players made the probowl? I think it wouldn't help us at all. Not only would we have to pay any contract filled incentives, but as you mention, these players agents would be asking for a lot more money. Right?

bedlamVR 12-23-2004 01:15 AM

How the hell does Tupa not get in he is having a career year. Springs and Griffin are having great rivials, hell Springs was being bounced to third CB in Seatle.

Forget the fact we are 5-9 half the NFC are 5-9 that is no excuse. It is all on name recognition which sucks for the players who play thier hearts out and get no reward.

BrudLee 12-23-2004 08:57 AM

It's patially a fan balloting system, so look in the mirror if you want to know why we haven't got the respect of the league. Also, many teams distribute ballots at their games for submission to the Pro Bowl - it never happened to me at FedEx.

MTK 12-23-2004 09:08 AM

I'm always ticked initially, then the reality of it all sets it.

The pro bowl is mostly a popularity contest where a lot of guys make it on name and rep alone.

Being on a winning team will always help your cause too.

Redskins_P 12-23-2004 09:22 AM

I think this could probably work to our advantage. Now guys will have a chip on their shoulder and play at a higher level to prove everyone wrong. Did you guys see what Marcus Washington said today on the WP?

[B]Washington said the downside to making the Pro Bowl was the effect the snub may have on teammates who were not picked. "I know what kind of guys we've got in the locker room. We've got some competitors," Washington said. "Guys that walk around not with chips on their shoulders, but with blocks on their shoulders. I think they're definitely going to take it personal. They're definitely going to raise their game to an even higher level."

Voting for the Pro Bowl has always been unpredictable. Votes by fans, coaches and players each count one-third. Players are prohibited from voting for teammates and coaches can't select their own players.

Most Redskins players couched their disappointment, but the team's cornerback duo was blunt. "I was robbed by someone without a mask," Smoot said, his voice tinged with disappointment. "Quote me."

Springs, who is tied for the team high with four interceptions, declared, "I played better than any cornerback in the league this season."

Redskins players felt this season's omissions were especially egregious. Nine players from the Philadelphia Eagles (13-1) were named to the Pro Bowl -- five on defense, including Jeremiah Trotter, who was released by the Redskins in the offseason. (Philadelphia's list was posted in the Redskins locker room.) "What's Philly's defense ranked?" Pierce asked rhetorically, referring to the Eagles' 10th-ranked defense. [/B]

MTK 12-23-2004 11:57 AM

I hope they keep that chip on their shoulders right in to next season.

skinsguy 12-23-2004 07:28 PM

The Pro Bowl is a joke anyways! Like Matty said, it's more about the names than how they played....I'd rather our guys get rewarded with a Super Bowl victory anyways...

Luxorreb 12-25-2004 05:24 AM

Next year we'll OWN the probowl. Taylor, Arrington, Ramsey, Coles, Portis, Jansen, Smoot, Springs. Can't wait. Let's get pissed and whip Dallas!


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