Dockett live tweets getting pulled over by police
 

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Interesting

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[QUOTE]Police said "do you mind if we look around in your Vehicle?" I said I sure DO! He said "I'm gonna call back up" I said u wanna use my phone?[/QUOTE]

omg I love it....lol

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He did the right thing, never let a cop search your car without a warrant.

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Social media is going to be undoing of today's society. Do athletes realize how foolish they look with these tweets? How can anyone read that and not think "what an idiot."

What would be really funny would be if this happened in Maryland, and he ended up getting ticketed because of the tweets for texting while behind the wheel of a car.

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[quote=Mattyk;808654]He did the right thing, never let a cop search your car without a warrant.[/quote]

Agreed. But to tweet the whole episode complete with vulgarities is just foolish.

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I've seen a lot worse get tweeted.

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[quote=Mattyk;808657]I've seen a lot worse get tweeted.[/quote]

For me Rashard Mendenhall's 9-11 comments right after we killed Bin Laden took the cake for Twitter fails.

The knuckleheaded-ness of some of these athletes on Twitter can be entertaining, but I agree with McNabb- these guys need to stay away from the tweets:

[url=http://www.thisis50.com/profiles/blogs/donovan-mcnabb-thinks-athletes]Donovan McNabb Thinks Athletes Need To Get Off Of Twitter. Is He Right? - ThisIs50.com[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;808655]Social media is going to be undoing of today's society. Do athletes realize how foolish they look with these tweets? How can anyone read that and not think "what an idiot."

What would be really funny would be if this happened in Maryland, and he ended up getting ticketed because of the tweets for texting while behind the wheel of a car.[/quote]


Some guys just never learn bro

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Sounds like a punk.

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Good for him, sounds like the only thing he was guilty of was driving an expensive car while being African-American. Agree that some ridiculous stuff gets said on Twitter but this is certainly not an example of that.

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Wow...how is this a big deal. The car was stopped, he wasn't driving relax -- athletes (and people in general) have done far worse things on twitter

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[quote=Mattyk;808654]He did the right thing, never let a cop search your car without a warrant.[/quote]

Ha, ha, Ok.

I'll say this... if the officer is "asking" to search your car then he/she more then likely does not have the probable cause to search inside. Be polite, be respectful, don't be sarcastic, simply say no because you don't have time for it because your late for a date or appointment or need to get home. The Supreme Court has said no means no. The police can not "swindle" you into letting them search the vehicle as in saying "why won't you let us search it? If you don't have anything to hide then you'd let us search it."

However keep in mind some officers do ask to search even though they have found probable cause to search. Why? I don't know. If you have the probable cause they simply should be saying "I'm going to search your car because I found (whatever) in your car." If they have it they will tell you.

But I laugh because technicall they can keep you on the side of the road for up to 2 hrs roughly per Supreme Court rulings. Depending on if you have been stopped before and contraband found depends on whether they will go through the whole process of getting a search warrant. It's much easier to simply call the K-9 to come sniff around your vehicle, which if the dog signals the vehicle has contrabrand inside is probable cause for the officer to search inside. On a side note.... sometimes when the dog smells contrabrand they tend to scratch at the vehicle sometimes leaving scratches on the outside, and if the dog hits and they send the dog inside because you still don't want to "get caught" the dog sometimes tears up the seats scratching at them if the contrabrand is inside or under them. I've never heard of someone successfully getting reimbursed for damage done to their vehicle when contrabrand has been found.

There is an old saying.... inocent people have nothing to hide. However I too don't like the overzealous officer. So .... if you got the time to sit on the side of the road for up to 2 hrs protecting your civil rights then enjoy it. But also remember .... if the officer is stopping you because you broke the law, the officer does have the option of writing you a ticket [B]or [/B]taking you into custody, towing your vehicle (which requires a "inventory search"), and taking you to the Magistrate. No matter how petty the offense.

Simply put ... don't break the law. and most of all.......
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[quote=Mattyk;808654]He did the right thing, never let a cop search your car without a warrant.[/quote]

Well they don't need a warrant for normal folks, they'll just claim the patriot act

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They didn't give him a ticket so I guess the officers were fcking morons for wasting tax payer money.

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Wasn't Dockett the guy who ustreamed himself taking a shower or something like that

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[quote=saden1;808683]They didn't give him a ticket so I guess the officers were fcking morons for wasting tax payer money.[/quote]

This. Guess they gotta be sure the black guy driving a nice car isn't up to no good.

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Ive never been asked when Ive been pulled to search my vehicle. Def think their is a profiling component to that. Good thing about 8 years ago i was holding a couple dank nugs.

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[quote=SmootSmack;808687]Wasn't Dockett the guy who ustreamed himself taking a shower or something like that[/quote]

Yeah, that was him. He and Najeh Davenport would make good buddies I think.


I agree with McNabb too, Twitter is really only causing harm to these athletes. There is no censor, no chance to read over their words before submitting and no taking them back, even if they delete them, the media and fans will have screen shots forever.

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[quote=FRPLG;808690]This. Guess they gotta be sure the black guy driving a nice car isn't up to no good.[/quote]

If he has his car modified to look "gangster" like a typical drug dealer/rapper's car, there would be legitimate suspicion. When I had my windows tinted dark in college, I got pulled over a couple of times without speeding or breaking any laws (other than the tint law) and I brought the attention on myself. They could not see into my car, so they had the right to be suspicious. I have no problem with them doing my job. My cars were never searched and I was never assaulted on those occasions. Let them do their job. I don't see a problem here, other then the live Tweets.

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[quote=Monkeydad;808706][B]If he has his car modified to look "gangster" like a typical drug dealer/rapper's car, there would be legitimate suspicion.[/B] When I had my windows tinted dark in college, I got pulled over a couple of times without speeding or breaking any laws (other than the tint law) and I brought the attention on myself. They could not see into my car, so they had the right to be suspicious. I have no problem with them doing my job. My cars were never searched and I was never assaulted on those occasions. Let them do their job. I don't see a problem here, other then the live Tweets.[/quote]

The burden is on the police in a case like this (brief stop short of an arrest/probable cause) to provide articulable facts as to why they pulled the suspect over; a "hunch" based on what the cop thinks a drug dealer/rapper's car would typically look like is constitutionally deficient. (Working in criminal law this summer and just had a case dealing with this.) Now, if the officer observed the suspect committing a traffic offense, that would provide the reasonable suspicion necessary to effectuate a stop. In this case, the officer claimed that Docket was speeding, but I think that's highly suspect. Dockett says he wasn't speeding and they never issued him a ticket. Also, there is certainly no extant evidence indicating that Dockett's windows violated any tinting laws, you are just asserting that.

Look, I get what you are saying as a practical matter, don't get tinted windows and play loud rap music if you don't wanna get pulled over. But I think we all as Americans need to be a lot more vigorous in defending the Constitution. Dockett is someone who was stopped and detained in a manner that appears to me to have been constitutionally offensive. He knew his rights and fought back and hopefully taught those police officers a lesson, while providing a positive example for other Americans. Remember, the Constitution isn't there to protect criminals, it's there to protect innocent people like us. If you go to China the police can search you for anything they feel like, there are no legal standards, but this isn't China. The prohibition against arbitrary search and seizure was born of a world in which British soldiers harassed Americans with impunity. The minute we start excusing stuff like this the closer we get to reverting back to that world.

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^Well said Djnemo

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[quote=SBXVII;808676]Ha, ha, Ok.

I'll say this... if the officer is "asking" to search your car then he/she more then likely does not have the probable cause to search inside.[B] Be polite, be respectful, don't be sarcastic, simply say no because you don't have time for it because your late for a date or appointment or need to get home.[/B] The Supreme Court has said no means no. [B]The police can not "swindle" you into letting them search the vehicle as in saying "why won't you let us search it? If you don't have anything to hide then you'd let us search it." [/B]

However keep in mind some officers do ask to search even though they have found probable cause to search. Why? I don't know. If you have the probable cause they simply should be saying "I'm going to search your car because I found (whatever) in your car." If they have it they will tell you.

[B]But I laugh because technicall they can keep you on the side of the road for up to 2 hrs[/B] roughly per Supreme Court rulings. Depending on if you have been stopped before and contraband found depends on whether they will go through the whole process of getting a search warrant. It's much easier to simply call the K-9 to come sniff around your vehicle, which if the dog signals the vehicle has contrabrand inside is probable cause for the officer to search inside. On a side note.... [B]sometimes when the dog smells contrabrand they tend to scratch at the vehicle sometimes leaving scratches on the outside,[/B] and if the dog hits and they send the dog inside because you still don't want to "get caught" the dog sometimes tears up the seats scratching at them if the contrabrand is inside or under them. I've never heard of someone successfully getting reimbursed for damage done to their vehicle when contrabrand has been found.

There is an old saying.... [B]inocent people have nothing to hide[/B]. However I too don't like the overzealous officer. [B]So .... if you got the time to sit on the side of the road for up to 2 hrs protecting your civil rights then enjoy it[/B]. But also remember .... if the officer is stopping you because you broke the law, the officer does have the option of writing you a ticket [B]or [/B]taking you into custody, towing your vehicle (which requires a "inventory search"), and taking you to the Magistrate. No matter how petty the offense.

Simply put ... don't break the law. and most of all.......
[/quote]


If I get pulled over the officer is obstructing my day, he’s the one that needs to be polite, respectful, and sincere…. Not me.

So if a officer asks to search my car I should just say sorry sir Im late for a date or I just need to get home, and he’ll let me on my way and he cant swindle me into letting him search my car? But then you say but he can hold me on the side of the road for up to 2 hours. Wow sounds like if im late for a date or need to get somewhere im pretty much screwed unless I let him go through my belongings. And if the dogs smells something or thinks he smells something he’s gonna scratch my car too?

Innocent people should also have nothing to fear…. However a overzealous cop can probably make feel pretty fearfull 2 hours later when he lets you go. If you have nothing to hide would you let me search your car? Im only friends with one police officer, so more than likely any stranger that pulls me over isn’t going to be the chance to rummage through my positions.

When I was in school I got pulled over with some friends right after we left a criminal justice class because our music was on too loud. Because we were just talking about individual rights we decided not to let the police officer search the car after he asked. We were forced to stand in the cold for about 45-hour while waiting for a k9 to show up. There was a park bench within 10 feet of where the officer made us stand. There were jackets in the car we were not able to retrieve. We were individually interrogated and patted down by the officer while we waited for a k9. We were not allowed to use our cell phones or inform friends or family of the situation. Of course the k9 didn’t find anything and we able to show up for our date or appointment….. albeit 45 minutes later.

We hear the discussion all the time about how athletes need to be role models. I think what Docket did is quite admirable. He didn’t do anything wrong and showed the young kids that look up to him that you don’t need to be harassed by police officers.

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Yep, perfectly said Djnemo

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Look, I don't have a problem with Dockett refusing to allow a police officer to search his vehicle. I think it's important that we all know our rights and that we stand up for our rights. I'm also aware that many, many people have been pulled over by police for "driving black" and that is just plain wrong.

However, we've got a thread about Darnell Dockett here. Darnell Dockett tweeting about a traffic stop! Darnell Dockett doesn't even play for the Redskins. Alas, this is the kind of thing we're reduced to talking about during this infernal lockout.

Please, please let there be a labor agreement soon so we can once again talk about Redskins Football!

Sheesh! :(

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[quote=djnemo65;808723]The burden is on the police in a case like this (brief stop short of an arrest/probable cause) to provide articulable facts as to why they pulled the suspect over; a "hunch" based on what the cop thinks a drug dealer/rapper's car would typically look like is constitutionally deficient. (Working in criminal law this summer and just had a case dealing with this.) Now, if the officer observed the suspect committing a traffic offense, that would provide the reasonable suspicion necessary to effectuate a stop. In this case, the officer claimed that Docket was speeding, but I think that's highly suspect. Dockett says he wasn't speeding and they never issued him a ticket. Also, there is certainly no extant evidence indicating that Dockett's windows violated any tinting laws, you are just asserting that.

Look, I get what you are saying as a practical matter, don't get tinted windows and play loud rap music if you don't wanna get pulled over. But I think we all as Americans need to be a lot more vigorous in defending the Constitution. Dockett is someone who was stopped and detained in a manner that appears to me to have been constitutionally offensive. He knew his rights and fought back and hopefully taught those police officers a lesson, while providing a positive example for other Americans. Remember, the Constitution isn't there to protect criminals, it's there to protect innocent people like us. If you go to China the police can search you for anything they feel like, there are no legal standards, but this isn't China. The prohibition against arbitrary search and seizure was born of a world in which British soldiers harassed Americans with impunity. The minute we start excusing stuff like this the closer we get to reverting back to that world.[/quote]

We also have not heard the other side of the story...how was Dockett driving and behaving? Was he wearing clothes? I highly doubt he was just doing nothing or appearing to do nothing to get himself pulled over. I completely agree with you about our rights and the need to protect them, but be honest, when someone tells the story of them getting pulled over by police, they "never" did anything wrong, right? It's always the police overstepping their bounds. Heck, even the lady blabbing on her phone and driving 15 MPH under the speed limit on halfway across the white line to her right is clueless about what she did when she was pulled over. I've been nearly hit by morons who don't realize how bad they're driving and get angry at ME for honking my horn to get their attention before they hit me.

I can't take someone who Tweets their traffic stop very seriously. He's always been someone seeking attention.



[quote=mlmpetert;808727]
We hear the discussion all the time about how athletes need to be role models. [B]I think what Docket did is quite admirable.[/B] He didn’t do anything wrong and showed the young kids that look up to him that you don’t need to be harassed by police officers.[/quote]

Wow. :lol:



A couple of days before getting pulled over for "no reason"...just saying. We're back to the "should pro athletes be out in the middle of the night at clubs and bars" conversation that we get in whenever there is a murder, stabbing, rape, arrest or self-inflicted gunshot wound with an NFL player.


[quote]
[B][URL="http://mobile.twitter.com/ddockett"]ddockett[/URL][/B] My boy gave me a shot of somthing but it smelled like gasoline and I feel like smokey on friday in debo piegon coupe!

[B][URL="http://mobile.twitter.com/ddockett"]ddockett[/URL][/B] Ayeeeeeeeeeee! After 2am for some reason I walk bow legged! Is that norma?

[B][URL="http://mobile.twitter.com/ddockett"]ddockett[/URL][/B] RT @[URL="http://mobile.twitter.com/kiedie"]kiedie[/URL]: My doctor just basically told me I was hypochondriac---------------hmmm No comment! Hey keeeeeeesha!

[/quote]Then...
[quote] [B][URL="http://mobile.twitter.com/ddockett"]ddockett[/URL][/B] [SIZE=4]I don't know why the police always messing w/me [/SIZE]I'm never gonna let them search my car with out a search warrant! No matter what! [/quote]Really? :D

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[quote=mlmpetert;808728]Yep, perfectly said Djnemo[/quote]

Perfectly said if the officer had no reason to stop him. However if he was speeding, failed to use a turn signal, California stopped a stop sign, ran a red light, had a tail light out.... etc, etc... then the stop was legal and the officer has every right to "ask" to search the vehicle just like every citizen has every right to refuse the search. It's no different then you asking to search your neighbor's wifes purse. You have the right to ask and she has the right to say yes or no.

Which is why I said "politely say no." If you act like an ass or cop an attitute spouting that you know your rights.... the officer is going to get pissed off and look for other violations or simply charge you for the one he was going to give you a warning on. Most people are nervous and polite. Go ahead and act angry, irrational, or cocky of your rights from the get go and see if it doesn't peak the officers interest as to what you might be hiding.

All I was saying is you have a better chance of getting a ticket or warning and sent on your way by being polite vs. standing your ground and being cocky, angry, or irrational about your rights. and.... although it's called a brief stop .... technically the Supreme Court has justified 2 hrs as being brief. With out an infraction or breaking of law they have to let you go after 2 hrs.

Another example would of not being respectful is talking on your phone during the traffic stop, or texting while the officer is trying to converse with you. This will most likely piss off the officer and make him want to run you through the mill.

People are funny, you don't want to get caught with your hand in the cookie jar don't slam the lid of the jar, you don't want to get caught sneeking out of the house don't slam the door, you don't want your car or your self searched by the officer don't act like an ass. Simple.

and.... just because he didn't get a ticket does not mean the officer just chose his vehicle to stop and ask to search. More then likely he broke the law and the officer pulled him over questioned him about the offense, gave him a warning on the offense hoping the subject would later say yes to searching the car. Happens all the time.

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You don't want to be searched don't put your self in a positons to be searched or asked to be searched. Don't break the law, don't tint your windows too dark, don't lower or raise your vehicle too high or low, don't put the loud fat mufflers on your car, ....*** don't put that stupid scented christmas tree on the rear view mirror***. Atleast not in VA. Don't hand the officer a reason to stop you on a silver platter. You want to trick out your car? fine as long as it's legal no problem, but don't trick out your car in order to get noticed then cry foul when you get noticed by the police.

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mlmpetert,
[QUOTE]When I was in school I got pulled over with some friends right after we left a criminal justice class because our music was on too loud. Because we were just talking about individual rights we decided not to let the police officer search the car after he asked. We were forced to stand in the cold for about 45-hour while waiting for a k9 to show up. There was a park bench within 10 feet of where the officer made us stand. There were jackets in the car we were not able to retrieve. We were individually interrogated and patted down by the officer while we waited for a k9. We were not allowed to use our cell phones or inform friends or family of the situation. Of course the k9 didn’t find anything and we able to show up for our date or appointment….. albeit 45 minutes later.[/QUOTE]

totally can understand your position, however you have to understand the officers also... he pats you down and finds nothing, he wants to search the car and you say no, the moment he opens the door to the car it's a search, but you said no to the search so he can't go into the car and retrieve your jackets, and he sure as hell aint going to let you guys go in and destroy or dump evidence if there is drugs in the car. So as much as I would say the officer is a jerk you have to realize he couldn't let you back in the car.

[QUOTE]We hear the discussion all the time about how athletes need to be role models. I think what Docket did is quite admirable. He didn’t do anything wrong and showed the young kids that look up to him that you don’t need to be harassed by police officers.[/QUOTE]

Role model? I dunno, tweeting during the traffic stop instead of giving the officer his full attention, being sarcastic? makes me believe there will be some young kids getting stopped and standing on the side of the road for 45 min. waiting for a dog to walk around the car because they heard how some football player stood up for his rights.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]SB and Monkey, i understand the reason why Docket was stopped, he was speeding and the officer found reason to pull him over. That’s cool, I don’t have a problem with that and it doesn’t sound like Djnemo did either. I don’t care of a legitimate reason a police officer finds to pull Docket, you, me or anyone else over. I just have a problem with the assertion “if you have nothing to hide” youll submit to an officer searching your car. There is nothing wrong with saying no. I have no problem with a officer asking, but I think its admirable that Docket said no, as a celebrity he’s showing fans and kids, who may be more likely to be victims of police abuse, that theres nothing wrong with saying no.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Maybe someone that has a red convertible is more likely to get a speeding ticket or a person in a hooked up car is more likely to get pulled over because those people naturally draw more attention than your average dude in a honda accord (me) but that doesn’t mean what happens after the stop should put either of those drivers at a advantage or disadvantage. Its similar to saying that a women who dresses provocatively is asking for it. She may be seeking more attention, however, once you approach her you don’t have the right to grab her ass. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I don’t think I have ever acted like a asshole to a police officer when pulled over, but ive only been pulled over maybe twice in the last 10 years or so. Ill admit it ive been found guilty of Improper Lane Change, so what you’ve never made a mistake before? But if a officer asks to search my car im going to say no regardless if im hiding something or if I just relieved all my sins in the confession booth. If the officer then calls in a k9 or decides to act like a dick and makes me wait for up to 2 hours then I might not finish ever sentence with Sir or Officer. Again if the officer is obstructing my day im not going to be his best bud. Im also not going to be a jackass and say i know my rights and all that high horse stuff but im not going to say thank you after I wait 2 hours as he toys with me.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[quote=KI Skins Fan;808733]
Please, please let there be a labor agreement soon so we can once again talk about Redskins Football!

Sheesh! :([/quote]

Seriously this lockout is killing me..........

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We need football. This ish is ridiculous guys.

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[quote=GMScud;808755]We need football. This ish is ridiculous guys.[/quote]

Agreed!

We need to sign Nnamdi!


Someday when I have a few free hours, I'll come back and read your book, SBXVII.

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I love how so many people are running here to defend the police and assume Dockett was doing something wrong. Innocent before guilty, anyone? I refuse to give the cops or the govt a blank check to do whatever they want to.

Ef the police*


*if they are overstepping their bounds

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This is a football thread on the front page????
Must be a lockout going on or sumpthin.

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mlmpetert,
[QUOTE]I just have a problem with the assertion “if you have nothing to hide” youll submit to an officer searching your car. There is nothing wrong with saying no. I have no problem with a officer asking, but I think its admirable that Docket said no, as a celebrity he’s showing fans and kids, who may be more likely to be victims of police abuse, that theres nothing wrong with saying no.
[/QUOTE]

Ok, I think my issue is that players are getting stopped "legally" and they are tweeting as if they are just another innocent black man getting pulled over and harrassed by the Po Po, then fans jump on board and slam the police. Lets look at it this way, how many law enforcement officers are there across America? and out of all those you only hear about the 1% who are bad. Yet because of those all officers are bad because they all want to violate your rights. Thats like me saying I visited another message board and the MODS there act like Nazi's, so of course I would say I hate MODS because their all Nazi's with control issue's. < I don't think that way but you get my point.

I'm not advocating letting the officer search your car. What I'm saying is from the police view point it's ... if you are not doing anything illegal then you have no reason to not let the officer look. Is it a right way to think? No. But thats reality. All I was doing was passing on some friendly advise as to how to keep the Po Po from wanting to search your car. Simply put don't do anything illegal or have anything illegal on your person or in your car, but that should be a given.... all I suggested was be polite and say no you'd rather they not search your car. But for just a moment put your self in the officers position... 1 out of 10 cars on the road will have drugs in it, logically if I search 10 cars I'm bound to find drugs, so if I have probable cause I search and if I don't I ask, my chances of finding drugs and getting an adda boy from my boss just increased. I'm sure you all want to make your boss happy as do they. and I pointed out that their asking to search is like your neighbor asking to search your car... you can always say no.

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[quote=hooskins;808769]I love how so many people are running here to defend the police and assume Dockett was doing something wrong. Innocent before guilty, anyone?[B] I refuse to give the cops or the govt a blank check to do whatever they want to.

Ef the police*


*if they are overstepping their bounds[/B][/quote]

Amen Brother!

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[quote=hooskins;808769]I love how so many people are running here to defend the police and assume Dockett was doing something wrong. Innocent before guilty, anyone? I refuse to give the cops or the govt a blank check to do whatever they want to.

Ef the police*


*if they are overstepping their bounds[/quote]

I love how so many people are running here to agree with and or defend Dockett and assume the police did something wrong.

I think it's Innocent until proven guilty. and by the way... the cops and gov. don't have a blank check to do whatever they want, the checks and balances is called court ,IF, you are charged with a crime. Go to court and explain that the cop violated your rights, if he did the Judge will throw out all charges and the cop will be repremanded. Which also opens the door for you to file a suit against the cop and his department.

If your not charged yet you feel your rights were violated then simply file a complaint with the department. Most police cars have camera's which record the whole incident. If there is any wrong doing the department will repremand or fire the cop. If there are several complaints from different people that are proven to be true, guaranteed the cop gets fired.

Unless you'd prefer to just tweet your complaint so everyone see's but nothing gets accomplished.

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No wonder I like blogs better than Twitter. As you really don't want to know what I do in my private life like five minutes at a time. You know what I mean?

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I am not saying Dockett didn't do anything wrong. I am saying, I don't just assume he is and side with the police. Do people do illegal things and deserve to be pulled over? Yes. Do police and other authority sometimes stereotype against certain groups of people? Yes. Not sure what happened in this situation, but I will not blindly side with the authorities just because we have a court system. I am glad we have avenues to counter authorities overstepping their bounds, but that's not my point. I am going to give a citizen the benefit of the doubt over authorities any day of the week. Once I see proof against the person in question, then I will change my position.

I don't care about his tweets either. Not really what I was looking at. But it's freedom of speech. He can say whatever wants to.

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[quote=SBXVII;808801]Ok, I think my issue is that players are getting stopped "legally" and they are tweeting as if they are just another innocent black man getting pulled over and harrassed by the Po Po, [/quote]

How exactly do you know he was stopped "legally"? Cops aren't allowed to stop cars without cause. Cops lie ALL the time. Just because they wear a badge and uniform doesn't make them any better than the crooks they often arrest. In fact, you see some that are worse than the crooks they arrest.

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[quote=SBXVII;808801]mlmpetert,


Ok, I think my issue is that players are getting stopped "legally" and they are tweeting as if they are just another innocent black man getting pulled over and harrassed by the Po Po, then fans jump on board and slam the police. Lets look at it this way, how many law enforcement officers are there across America? [B]and out of all those you only hear about the 1% who are bad. [/B]Yet because of those all officers are bad because they all want to violate your rights. Thats like me saying I visited another message board and the MODS there act like Nazi's, so of course I would say I hate MODS because their all Nazi's with control issue's. < I don't think that way but you get my point.

I'm not advocating letting the officer search your car. What I'm saying is from the police view point it's ... if you are not doing anything illegal then you have no reason to not let the officer look. Is it a right way to think? No. But thats reality. All I was doing was passing on some friendly advise as to how to keep the Po Po from wanting to search your car. Simply put don't do anything illegal or have anything illegal on your person or in your car, but that should be a given.... all I suggested was be polite and say no you'd rather they not search your car. But for just a moment put your self in the officers position... [B]1 out of 10 cars on the road will have drugs in it,[/B] logically if I search 10 cars I'm bound to find drugs, so if I have probable cause I search and if I don't I ask, my chances of finding drugs and getting an adda boy from my boss just increased. I'm sure you all want to make your boss happy as do they. and I pointed out that their asking to search is like your neighbor asking to search your car... you can always say no.[/quote]

Are these numbers from the trusted and official 'I make shit up' stat book?
The numbers vary from location to location. There are good police and there are bad, just like regular folks. It is difficult to put a number to it.
Just know that if you are in a known drug corridor and you are a person of color, you will be treated differently than a white grandmother. Profiling is real and it exists big time. "Cause" to search a vehicle is very easily invented. Your word against his.
Yesterday I drove on I-10 from San Antonio to Houston. There were three cars pulled over by police along the way. All three cars were getting searched by police and the occupants were standing outside the car dumbfounded. They were not handcuffed, so you know they were not caught red-handed. It was a fishing expedition on the part of the police.
Highway offenses are low hanging fruit. Mean time violent crimes go on in big cities, all while the police are setting up speed traps on the highways. Not a good use of man power, but writing tickets is a good and easy source of income for the city government.