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MTK 12-26-2004 09:41 PM

With :05 seconds left...
 
Should we have tried to run a quick play to pick up another 5-7 yards? Something quick to the sideline?

I dunno, perhaps it just wasn't enough time, we might as well have tried a hail mary... a 57 yard FG with Chandler, forgetaboutit.

I still can't believe we lost that game

:vomit-smi

cpayne5 12-26-2004 09:48 PM

My ears are still red and probably will be for a while. I'm ticked. Seems like the players don't understand what it means to us.

I don't think we could run a quick play with 5 seconds left and still had a tick left on it. I think sending Chandler out there was the best thing to do. It was pretty good kicking conditions (save for the 57 yards). If he had a little more leg, he would have been the hero. I didn't think he was going to make it, but it was really the only thing we could have done with any expectation of success.

MTK 12-26-2004 10:16 PM

yeah I'm just grasping at straws at this point, still in shock

Kevikazi 12-26-2004 10:17 PM

I'm proud of the way Redskins' defense played tonight. But, I think we should have continued to put pressure on Vinny instead of playing prevent defense.

SmootSmack 12-26-2004 10:30 PM

I would have faked the field goal and gone for the TD...F&#^ the conservative play calling!

Seriously though, I think cpayne is right. Kicking a field goal is all we really could have expected with any expectation of success...and for a brief second I thought we had it

hurrykaine 12-26-2004 10:47 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I would have faked the field goal and gone for the TD...F&#^ the conservative play calling!

Seriously though, I think cpayne is right. Kicking a field goal is all we really could have expected with any expectation of success...and for a brief second I thought we had it[/QUOTE]

Amen! Smootsmack - exactly what I was thinking too - should've faked the field goal and burned them - no one would've criticized the move - no one how knew a 55 yarder was out of Chandler's range would've criticized the move to fake a field goal.

What really irritates me about Gibbs is how he says in his press conference that they took a lot of shots downfield but the Qb was sacked and the ball was knocked down etc....the problem is, you can't count failed plays as taking shots downfield. I can't think of a single long throw Ramsey attempted - and Dallas is supposed to have a weak pass defense.

hurrykaine 12-26-2004 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]yeah I'm just grasping at straws at this point, still in shock[/QUOTE]

No shock, Mattie - we are like redsox fans (before this past year) - always waiting for something to go wrong in the big game. I sensed something was gonna kick our ass when they made 2 4th down conversions on their last drive.

skin4Life28 12-26-2004 11:10 PM

Nothing else you could do but try. Better chance of making that than a hailmary. On that note the best we can finish this season is 5-11 not improving on Spurrier's record last year. Spurrier you my boy. Even though my UGA boyz gonna have beat up on some cocks. Man that just doesn't sound right.

Daseal 12-26-2004 11:36 PM

Hurrykaine: I actually said "It's about time for the 4th quarter collapse."

offiss 12-27-2004 12:16 AM

[QUOTE=hurrykaine]Amen! Smootsmack - exactly what I was thinking too - should've faked the field goal and burned them - no one would've criticized the move - no one how knew a 55 yarder was out of Chandler's range would've criticized the move to fake a field goal.

What really irritates me about Gibbs is how he says in his press conference that they took a lot of shots downfield but the Qb was sacked and the ball was knocked down etc....the problem is, you can't count failed plays as taking shots downfield. I can't think of a single long throw Ramsey attempted - and Dallas is supposed to have a weak pass defense.[/QUOTE]

I disagree, I wanted to fake a quick out and go to the end zone instead of trying a field goal, I knew our kicker's leg wasen't strong enough for that kick and so did the cowboy's, they would have been looking for a fake there, but they also knew another 5 to 7 yard's would have givin us a legitimate shot they would have been playing the sidelines I would pump and go an out route and went for the end zone that may have had a shot.

Gmanc711 12-27-2004 12:22 AM

I dont know, if its Hail Mary or Feild goal, i'd say feild goal. But maybe a really quick out could have gotten us a bit closer. He was like 6 yards short though, I dont know if we could have gotten one that far.

aehs77 12-27-2004 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=skin4Life28]Nothing else you could do but try. Better chance of making that than a hailmary. On that note the best we can finish this season is 5-11 not improving on Spurrier's record last year. Spurrier you my boy. Even though my UGA boyz gonna have beat up on some cocks. Man that just doesn't sound right.[/QUOTE]nah we can still get six

CRT3 12-27-2004 07:16 AM

[QUOTE=Kevikazi]I'm proud of the way Redskins' defense played tonight. But, I think we should have continued to put pressure on Vinny instead of playing prevent defense.[/QUOTE]
Proud of giving up the game?? HEy the game is 60 minutes and there is nothing to be proud about losing. They also were NOT playing a prevent in fact they had 2 sacks on that series that forced Dallas into a 4th down situation which they made. They were playing a 2 deep cover zone. The corner (Spriggs) released his guy and was expecting Sean Taylor to take hm on. Vinny faked Taylor out for a moment and it allowed him to get open. Nice pass to also helped. Greg Williams will never play a prevent defense while on the other side of the ball Coach Gibbs plays a prevent offense, which you know what that means.

Daseal 12-27-2004 09:28 AM

Prevent offense? Preventing our team from getting critical first downs?

Redskins_P 12-27-2004 09:30 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Prevent offense? Preventing our team from getting critical first downs?[/QUOTE]

How about preventing our team from scoring more than 10 points?

CROOKEDSKINS 12-27-2004 10:16 AM

anyone else notice we started calling a timeout with 7 seconds and the refs let it run down to 5.reminds me of the 79 game in dallas when joey t hit ricky tompson and the refs let the last second run off when we were calling a timeout.dallas always gets the calls in big d.

MTK 12-27-2004 10:30 AM

The clock always seems to tick off a few seconds when a timeout is called, it's just not yesterday. That's something that's always pissed me off.

skinsguy 12-27-2004 11:29 AM

Yeah I was thinking we MIGHT have had enough time to have thrown a quick out for at least a few more yards. After all, even though the field goal was short, just a few more yards would have made a huge difference!

arrington_QBkiller 12-27-2004 12:03 PM

eh...after the cowboys got accross midfield the redskins stopped blitzing, they were only rushing the front 4 and dropping everyone else into coverage, that is something that they didn't do all day, they should have stuck with the aggressive defense, it was killing vinny-t all day, but they knew the cowboys couldn't settle for 3 so they were trying to stop the big score, sean taylor was just worried about keyshawn on the post...would anyone out there have been worried about the reciever that scored???? (I don't even know his name) taylors young and vinny made a great throw

CROOKEDSKINS 12-27-2004 12:24 PM

he was so open my grandma could have made that throw

CrazyCanuck 12-27-2004 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Should we have tried to run a quick play to pick up another 5-7 yards? Something quick to the sideline?

I dunno, perhaps it just wasn't enough time, we might as well have tried a hail mary... a 57 yard FG with Chandler, forgetaboutit.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I was screaming for them to run one more play. You know he's not hitting a 57 yarder. Why not try one of those quick outs/slants that they ran 1000 times previously during the game? We had another timeout so the middle of the field was open too. There's a big difference between a 51 yarder and a 57 yarder.

cpayne5 12-27-2004 04:23 PM

It takes the refs 2 seconds to realize you want a timeout. So, effectively, we would have had to run a play (snap, drop back, throw, catch, go down, and call a timeout) within 2 seconds (to leave 1 second on the clock). Just not enough time.

bedlamVR 12-27-2004 09:50 PM

We could have gone for the FG or the game winning hail mary not both either way it was a long shot. the way the game went though even had we got the tieing FG the Boys would have still gone the length of the feild and won in OT.

offiss 12-28-2004 02:25 AM

[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck]I agree. I was screaming for them to run one more play. You know he's not hitting a 57 yarder. Why not try one of those quick outs/slants that they ran 1000 times previously during the game? We had another timeout so the middle of the field was open too. There's a big difference between a 51 yarder and a 57 yarder.[/QUOTE]


I agree the decision to kick a field goal there is indicative of the types of decision's Gibb's has been making this year, his long in pre game warmup's was 49 yards, you have to take a chance at getting that ball closer, or throw it to the end zone, I knew that Chandler's leg isn't strong enough to make that kick, and Gibb's doesn't? That was a Norv decision instead of taking a real chance at winning the game try a long field goal and leave yourself an excuse on why we lost, I almost get the feeling that Gibb's think's we lost that game because of that 1 play by the cowboy's, he's saying the right thing's, it's what he's not saying that's troubling me, and that's his pathetic offense and playcalling which is constantly putting our defense in a very difficult position, I don't hear him saying it's our ineptitude on offense that's killing us, 12 year's out of the game, maybe it's just to much for someone to overcome at his age.

MTK 12-28-2004 08:33 AM

As unlikely as hitting a 57 yard FG is, chances of hitting a hail mary for a TD is even less likely. As others have pointed out, 5 seconds just isn't enough time to get a play off and call a timeout or get out of bounds.


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