You're the GM, map out your offseason plan
 

Imagine for a moment you're the GM of the Skins working with Gibbs and the staff. What is your offseason plan? What changes do you make to the roster and/or staff? What do you not change about the roster/staff. Try to keep your plan logical, cutting or trading half the team isn't a reality. Also try to keep the cap in mind when you're laying out your plan.

Here's mine:

I start off by pushing hard to re-sign Smoot and Pierce to long-term deals. These two guys are without a doubt my top priority as the offseason kicks off.

Next I restructure Samuels to give us much needed cap relief. I don't think Samuels has much leverage with us, the past 2 seasons he's been very average and he's not going to get top dollar from anyone else. I expect we'll be able to re-work his deal.

Some key guys I look to bring back with minimum deals: Joe Salave'a, Lemar Marshall, Ray Brown (as a backup), Todd Franz.

Guys on the bubble that I'd look to deal away or cut because of cap and/or performance reasons: Rod Gardner (last year of his deal, won't be a huge cap hit), Chad Morton, Corey Raymer, Darnernian McCants, Jermaine Haley, Lennie Friedman, Mike Sellers, Renaldo Wynn, Rock Cartwright, Brian Kozlowski.

In the draft I look to come away with one of the top WR's available. Of course a lot depends on where we pick, trading down to pick up a 2nd rounder is also a strong consideration I would make. With the later round picks I look for offensive and defensive lineman to develop.

In free agency I'm looking for a starting center, possibly some depth at WR and RB, and defensive line help. I don't think it's necessary to go after a big name pass rusher. In fact the only place I'd be looking to spend some serious money is at the center position. I'm also looking for a TE who can catch AND block. Cooley is firmly entrenched as the h-back, but having a TE who's a double threat would help add another dimension to the offense. Royal doesn't seem to be that guy to me.

With the staff I make no changes unless someone leaves, which seems unlikely. Williams and Blache seem committed to returning to finish what they started. Offensively I give Gibbs whatever he needs. If he thinks he could benefit by bringing in a consultant or coordinator, that's what I would do. If not that's fine with me, I trust he's going to be burning some serious midnight oil all winter and spring upgrading the system and making any necessary adjustments.

Alright there's my plan, fire away guys.

My first concern is to bring back the defense in tact. Try to lock up Lott, Franz, Smoot, Harris, Marshall, Pierce. Make sure they're all back with slight extentions. Smoot/Pierce give more to. Keep this whole unit in tact, but maybe substitute in some more depth at defensive back (maybe Williams can find a mid-round DB who would be great as another blitzer.) Restructure Wynns contract, and figure out about Daniels health. If we can do that maybe draft a mid-round DE, otherwise go for a high motor, high energy, affordable DE in the offseason. If cap room allows, go for one anyways!

On offense, add a real big play receiver and help to the offensive line. Give Taylor Jacobs a legitimate shot at catching some balls this year and seeing what he can do. Restructure Samuels or trade him away. Keep Thomas, Dockery, Samuels, and Jansen. I feel even Dockery has made some good plays this year, and if he can workout his problems during the offseason could certainly be good enough for another year. I also would like a large TE, maybe even an O lineman coming out who's a dominating blocker, with moderate speed but great hands. Someone who can rollout to make a clutch first down catch. Not exactly a stat-monster, but certainly a safety valve. Sign any center you can get your hands on.

The draft, there are still a lot of scenarios left, but I'll assume we trade no picks and fix said cap issues with Samuels, Wynn, and get a center via free agency.
1: WR
2: N/A
3: DE
4: DB for Williams
5: that Oline/Tend hybrid
6+: Look for projects. Dline, Oline, anyone the coaching staff feels they could mould.

Me??
 

No one is safe and too much money has been spent already! This team is way over paid for the number of wins produced.

More answers are needed on OL than on D, and TE, and WR are areas requiring change. Whether we have what we need, or have to go and get someone, only cousin vinnie, LDS, and HOF Coach Gibbs can answer. I defer to their combined superior wisdom. Well, maybe not cousin vinnie!

I did not want Brunnell or Portis, and I think we should not have gotten rid of Marty-ball quite so quickly. We got 'em anyway, so now we've got to figure out a way to work-around.

* Sign Smoot and Pierce
* Ask Brunell to take a pay cut (we really don't have any leverage with this one)
* Seek a starting-quality center
* Assess the situation with the two rookie Olinemen and maybe cut Samuels if he won't restructure.
* Look (either draft or FA) for a bruising full back type that can both block and bash it in.
* CB depth
* Resign Ethan Albright. We all know what a bad snap can do to you.
* Make sure Coles get healthy this offseason!!!
* Cut Gardner (or maybe get a low pick in a trade).

Cut: Rock, Kozlowski, & Friedman for starters.

In the draft, I trade down to pick up some picks. I'd look for a center, athletic Olinemen, versatile offensive and defensive players (ie make plays on special teams routinely as well as contribute to another unit), WRs who aren't 'elite' but know how to find the open space, hard hitting DBs, and a pass rushing DE (in the ND Kalu mold).

Those aren't necessarily in gotta have order. I don't really have an order of positions. I'd rank the players 1...n and take them in that order as they are available.

I will agree with you bckrow about Marty. I think that team was on the right track when he was fired, but whats done is done. We have Brunell (which Sucks), we have Portis (which dosent suck).

My offseason plan, is no plan at all. Keep what we have, and get a few very low profile guys to come in. Get a new center, someone who can start NOW! Maybe draft one late to try to mold them, but get a FA Center who can at least hold his own and not be killed. Ramsey see's Raymer in his face more than he does Coles.

I'm all for getting a pass-rusher. I wouldnt mind getting one in the first round, although I htink we should use that on a WR. I dont know if there are any FA's besides J. Abraham that are any good, but I think we should pass on him. I say we blow our third rounder on a DE, or maybe even trade to get a second rounder so we can move up.

Samuels Needs to be restructred, but we cant get rid of him. We cant have another gaping hole there. We should draft a gaurd, incase Dockery dosent pan out. M. Wilson looked good at tackle the one game he played, so maybe there is somewhere on the offesnive line for him.

We really dont have a ton of holes on this team... in my world I want to see these done, and I'll be happy if this happens...

Samuels Restructures, Perice, Smoot resigned.
All the "little people" on the defense (Salav'e, ect ) resigned
A new Center
Draft Mike Williams
Better defensive end, possibly cut Wynn ( his number is huge ).

I agree with most of what has been said on this thread but the hits on portis I do not understand. He did rush for over 1300 yards this year and is around 6th or 7th in the nfl and with no deep passing threat. We all agree that our offensive line needs an up grade at center and in one or two other spots. With Gibbs system and most systems it starts with the offensive line. If Portis can get 1300 yards with an average or below average line just think of what he can do with an above average line and a deep passing threat.

1) Offensive Line- Biggest area of need- New Guard, Center and backup Tackle. We need to draft or sign new talent to develop. Bugel is great at developing young guys, but it takes time. So start now before we are forced again to choose between a 42 y.o. guard and a fat loser like Kenyatta Jones.

2) TE- we need a big bruiser/short yardage run blocker that can run and catch. Cooley is a great start, but more of an H-back, not a killer blocker.

3) WR - keep Coles and Gardner, the others are disposable. Jacobs is running out of time. I have to disagree with getting rid of Gardner. Let him play out his contract, when used correctly and our QB's are not missing the side of a barn or throwing to the other team, Gardner has proved he is better than Jacob, McCants & co. Draft and develop a great physical rookie, not a soft/dud like Jacobs. Jacobs up to now has proven to be one-dimensional, outside speed receiver. He does not posses all the tools to be a #2 reciever in the NFL.

4) DT/DE - Need to start to develop a young guy and give him time to become great as a back up, than throw him in.

5) Let defense coach Williams sign anyone he thinks he needs (with in reason). He proved he knows what he is doing. Remember this last offseason when some on TWP were questioning the large number of LB's and CB's signed? Well with all the injuries we had at LB he proved it was needed.

I think there are some personnel issues that need to be addressed, but I don't think we need to go overboard in this area.

It is honestly very minute details that are resulting in large consequences for the offense. Drastic personnel changes are never the way to go.

I'm going to go out on a limb and be the only person who thinks we really need to AVOID drafting Mike Williams if he is available. Mike Williams is NOT a deep threat type receiver - he is more in the Anquan Boldin / Larry Fitzgerald mold, of a large intermediate-route threat.

I think we need to use a first-round pick on a defensive-end, and if that means trading down and acquiring more picks, then this is the route to go. I think we should also use a high pick to find an interior lineman.

One of the things our defense was lacking this year was the ability to generate a pass-rush with the front-four (although Griffin has done this somewhat - and Chris Clemons has seemed to be a promising fit). Having an end who can get to the quarterback will have a tremendous effect on the rest of the defense.

On the offensive side of the ball, I think the group just needs an off-season to get their heads straight and let all the lessons from this season sink-in. By acquiring someone on the outside who can move the safeties a few years back, and acquiring someone who can consistenly pick up short yardage, I think you'll see a HUGE difference in the efficiency of the offense next year.

The most important things in the off-season:

1. Don't panic.
2. Re-sign UFAs
3. Sign a receiver with jets and a short-yardage back.
4. Draft a defensive end and an interior lineman.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]In the draft I look to come away with one of the top WR's available. Of course a lot depends on where we pick, trading down to pick up a 2nd rounder is also a strong consideration I would make. With the later round picks I look for offensive and defensive lineman to develop.
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Matty, this is the only point where I disagree.

I think Coles is best on the 10-15 yard crossing routes, ins, and hook patterns. This is the area where Mike Williams will probably excel.

Braylon Edwards might have more deep speed, but I still think we should look at trading down and picking up a pass rusher.

A guy like Craphonso Thorpe or Terrence Murphy will be able to be a real threat on the fly patterns, coming out of the slot, and will open up those crossing routes for Coles.

At RB, I think we should look at a guy like Kay-Jay Harris with our 4th round pick.

Come to think of it, the ideal situation would be to trade down from our #1 slot and pick up a 3rd rounder?

Then, we could go:

1st rounder: DE (Erasmus James or Mathias Kiwanuka)
3rd rounder: C (Ben Wilkerson or Vince Carter)
3rd rounder: WR (Craphonso Thorpe or Terrence Murphy)
4th rounder: RB (Kay-Jay Harris)
6th rounder: OL/DL/LB project
7th rounder: OL/DL/LB project

Matty - I just realized you did say you thought we might want to consider moving down to the 2nd rd. for a receiver - which is basically what I just reiterated.

Apologies.

Im Not Completely Against Trading Gardener,samuels Etc... Just For Draft Picks.

Take everything below with a pinch of salt, and do correct me mercilessly if I've made errors.

Here's something that baffles me. Why doesn't Gibbs' playbook feature any creative route running for the WRs? Brandon Stokely doesn't exactly have blazing speed, but how many times have you seen him catch TDs completely untouched, with no DBs within 10 yards of him? Surely his speed is not what's causing the separation. The separation is only attributable to creative route running, or Peyton being a shifty-yed mofo and conning the DBs, or both.

How ironic is it that Martyball in San Diego is looking much more exciting than Gibbs ball?

I'd seriously consider obtaining potentially 4 1st round picks in the draft - the # 5 pick from sucking this year, and three more if we trade Samuels, Ramsey & Gardner. I'd use the # 5 to sign Erasmus Jones, DE from Wisconsin, give one to the Colts as part of a trade for Dwight Freeney, and use the remaining two to trade up and nab Mike Williams.


1. Demote Don Breaux to offensive consultant (since Gibbs won't fire him). Bugel stays out of play calling, and focuses on teaching the O-line how to zone block for Portis. We don't need two conservative play callers calling the offensive shots. Gibbs needs to have a creative play caller to complement his predictable conservative style. Any suggestions for creative offensive coords with decent experience other than Martz or Fassel?

2. Not sure if we need both Byner and Breaux.

3. Hijack a good Left tackle and Center from the Steelers/Denver/Colts/Chiefs, like we did with the Jets in 2003.

Samuels is gone, and Dockery, Jansen & Thomas are the only linemen that stay. Any suggestions for linemen we can lure away from Denver/Steelers/Chiefs/Colts?

4. Resign Smoot and Pierce and keep the secondary intact. Barrow is gone.

5. Retain all defensive coaches (especially Blache). Daniels & Wynn are gone.

6. Rod Gardner traded for a pick. With our 1st round pick, we take Mike Williams. I keep Mccants purely for his red zone value, and keep Jacobs & Thrash as well. With Williams, even though there is no blazing speed, you can lob the ball in his general direction and guarantee he will win the 1 on 1 matchup like Moss, or a Todd Heap.

Regarding TEs/ H-backs, Kozlowski is gone.

8. Ideally, I'd also want to trade Ramsey to the Dolphins for their 1st round pick, and somehow end up signing Drew Brees. He may not have Ramsey's cannon, but he sees the field better and can throw with anticipation. As for him learning the nuances of Gibbs offense, it doesn't seem like its too complicated an offense to master.

9. Special teams - we fire Danny Smith and bring in a Gary Zauner (Ravens) or the like. As much as I hate Sellers for his boneheaded penalties, he is worth keeping for the blocks and tackles he makes on special teams - not to mention a decent replacement at H-back, should Cooley be injured.

Chad Morton is gone, and Antonio Brown gets a serious re-evaluation - his fumble was costly, but he did show some blazing speed on his first punt return.

This is what the skins of 2005 should ideally look like:

QB: Brees (1st String), Hasselback (2nd string), Brunell (3rd string), assuming Gibbs won't let Brunell go.

RB: Portis, Betts

H-back/TE: Cooley, Sellars, Royal

WRs: Coles, Mike Williams, Jacobs, Thrash, Mccants

O-line: Jansen, Thomas, Replacement Center, Dockery, Replacement LT (unless Wilson/Molinaro show tremedous improvement).

D-line: Erasmus Jones, Griffin, Salave'A, Freeney (cap permitting) with Warner & Evans as back ups - else, Warner starts.

Linebackers: Washington, Pierce, Lavar with Campbell, Clemons & Lemar as back ups.

DBs: Springs, Smoot, Harris - and a serious re-evaluation of Jimoh (at this point, he might be more valuable for us than drafting a 5th or 6th round DB.)

Safety: Taylor and Bowen, with Franz & Lott as back-ups.

Cap space: Saved from the release of Barrow, Daniels, Wynn, Samuels, Raymer, Gardner with Smoot and Pierce being signed to Cap-friendly deals. And then hope for the TV deal to be regotiated in 2006 to save us from hell.

#1 & 2 - Resign Smoot & Pierce

#3 - restructure Samuels, Wynn, and Brunell



Dump:

Morton, Kozlowski, Gardner (or trade), McCants, Cartwright, Friedman, Haley, Jimoh

Keep:

Warner, Salave'a, Boschetti, Clemons, Marshall, Clark, Lott, Franz, Sellars


When Free agency starts, we should pick up some o-line help (center, guard, tackle). Big, bruising short yardage back. A veteran TE that is more versatile than Koz. Another WR.

Draft:

WR (Mike Williams)

Pass rushing DE

DB (safety or CB)

O-lineman (if we still have enough picks)

You guys forgot about going out and finding a YOUNGER offensive mind, to be possibly the Offensive coordinator. Gibbs unless he makes some big changes to our scheme (and I think he will) system is way of of date.

First priorities should be:
Center
Power RB
DE

Second priorities:
WR (I think we would do better stealing one from another team like we did with Coles then to draft one)
DT
TE


With Jansen back and Wilson/Molinero with a year under thier belt, a center should improve the line.
Keep Barrow, the guy is a monster when healthy and won't hurt the cap.

Ditch Koz, Rock (sorry, I love him but not at his current weight), Friedman, Mcants, Morton, and a DE.

[QUOTE=skins009]You guys forgot about going out and finding a YOUNGER offensive mind, to be possibly the Offensive coordinator. Gibbs unless he makes some big changes to our scheme (and I think he will) system is way of of date.[/QUOTE]

I mentioned that in my post....this guy would replace Don Breaux...but who? Would be cool to have a Martz or Fassel, but those guys won't be here for any more than 1 yr, till they get lured away by a head coaching position somewhere else.

[QUOTE=hurrykaine]I mentioned that in my post....this guy would replace Don Breaux...but who? Would be cool to have a Martz or Fassel, but those guys won't be here for any more than 1 yr, till they get lured away by a head coaching position somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

This a situation where its good to have Dan Synder as your owner. If he puts down the money, I'm sure we can get someone from the Chiefs, Colts or Rams staff to joon ours. I've been hoping all year for Mike Martz or Mike Tice to get fired and then join our staff as a consultant. But that doesn't look like its gonna happen.

Have you guys heard about the soap opera going on in St. Louis with Martz?

First he had the owner of the team send a letter to all the players saying his job was safe, then he calls out Kyle Turley in the press saying he's stealing money from the team by being on IR. Then he and Turley have a little face to face meeting and Martz has to have security escort him out of his office saying Turley threatened to kill him.

Martz isn't all there.

my moves
 

We Must Fire Cerrato. Get A Real Gm.
Re-sign= Smoot, Pierce, Salave'a, Warner, Evans, Hasselbeck, Marshall

Cut= Take The F***ng Hit With Brunnell, Morton, Barrow, Raymer,m Cartwrite

Trade= Samuels , And Package Gardner & Betts


Draft: Marcus Spears De, Lsu Or The Guy Out Of Boston College If Not I Want Mike Willaims Wr, Usc

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Have you guys heard about the soap opera going on in St. Louis with Martz?

First he had the owner of the team send a letter to all the players saying his job was safe, then he calls out Kyle Turley in the press saying he's stealing money from the team by being on IR. Then he and Turley have a little face to face meeting and Martz has to have security escort him out of his office saying Turley threatened to kill him.

Martz isn't all there.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Martz also say something like his players have been worried he might get fired because Mortensen said something on ESPN and that's why they haven't played well?

Can we blame our season on Don Banks or Lenny P?

Three main things. Get the deals done on Pierce, Smoot and Samuels.

Cuts will be minimal but their will be some natural wastage including McCants and Gardner the Rock and maybe Brunell in a post june 1st move.

I Just don't see us drafting Williams we have gone WR with our top pick in 3 of the last five years and got nothing to show for it and Gibbs will be remembering Desmond Howard.

Have a long talk with Vinny about his future with the team. Also get Bobby Bethard on the phone, he is not tied in with Atlanta, he has a lot of respect for Gibbs and it would get the necessary headlines to keep the season tickets sold in the offseason to bring him back .

Don't touch the coaching staff unless they ask for help. I think the only addition will be Ray Brown as an assistant OL/possition conditioning coach.

Obviously resign Smoot and Pierce and restructure Samuels.. Beyond that I would:
1) Try to trade Gardner for a 2nd, 3rd or 4th round pick. He was almost dealt a couple of years ago, there should be some market for him. If we have to package a future pick in order to move him (ex. Gardner and 2006 3rd round for a high 2nd this year) let's do it. McCants makes plays when he's in there, Jacobs needs to step up.

2) Trade down in the draft for multiple picks. We are not one impact player away from making a turnaround. We need multiple playmakers on both sides of the ball (preferably at DE and WR or TE) to make teams account for them. Other than Arrington and Portis, we don't have any players that teams need to gameplan for.

3) Keep free agent sigings to a minimum. The one player I would like to see us go hard after is Darren Howard of the Saints. He will be an unrestricted FA and the Saints will likely not go after him hard to keep him. He's relentless to the QB and a solid run defender. I think he'd be an excellent addition. If there is an upgrade at C then make that move, but I don't think they will. Other than that, I would build depth in the secondary and on both lines through FA.

4) Modernize the playbook. Unless you have a defense like the Ravens or Patriots that put points on the board, you cannot have an offensive philosophy that focuses on not losing the game. To paraphrase Herm Edwards, 'You have to play to win the game!' I get so tired of seeing other teams with receivers just running in wide open spaces and then see Coles run an 8 yd hook pattern with nowhere to run. If Ramsey is the QB, then let him be the QB, don't run this pennyannie dink and dunk game that keeps 8 defenders in the box. Portis did him damage with 3 wides in the game and on stretch plays, use the counter gap as a change up, not as the bread and butter.

lets see me as GM first I'd resign defensive players such as Smoot, Pierce, Sallevai, Lott, Franz, Harris, & Marshall. I would resign gardner then if it works for us trade him for a pick similar to the bryan johnson trade.

I'd try to restructure Brunnell, Samuels, Bowen, Coles, Wynn, and Daniels.
If Jets don't resign Abraham I'd try everything to get him, or Darren Howard of the saints we let the freak get away so lets not do the same agian.
I'd cut or look for trade value in McCants, bett, and morton. I'd cut Jermaine Haley, Lennie Friedman, Mike Sellers, hasselbeck, Rock Cartwright, Brian Kozlowski.
I'd also sign some depth in a cb and the line. if ray brown doesn't retire i'd add him for depth.

As for the draft I would do something different than most of you. it would go as follows

1trade down far enough that i can still take cedrick Benson RB Texas (explain later)
2 get a 2nd round by trading down or giving away a player if available take Heath Miller TE Virginia or a top notch center
3 I doubt he'll slip this far but Timmy chang qb Hawaii if not there Roydell Williams WR Tulane, or Ryan Riddle DE Cal
4 if he is here chad owens wr Hawaii (special teams speciallist to replace morton)or a linemen
Later rounds De Andra Cobb Michigan St.(pr/kr & if we didn't get owens), Jonathon Goddard Marshall(undersized but strong high motor de) and depth at line both offense and defense.

u may ask why take Benson, well the best running team in the league this year is atlanta who has a wicked one two puch. and this would protect our investment in portis, he'll last longer and no one could stop our running game and guess who was a part owner when they drafted tj duckett and brought in dunn.... gibbs i feel he played a part in that in some way.

[QUOTE=hurrykaine]
1. Demote Don Breaux to offensive consultant (since Gibbs won't fire him). Bugel stays out of play calling, and focuses on teaching the O-line how to zone block for Portis. We don't need two conservative play callers calling the offensive shots. Gibbs needs to have a creative play caller to complement his predictable conservative style. Any suggestions for creative offensive coords with decent experience other than Martz or Fassel?

2. Not sure if we need both Byner and Breaux.

3. Hijack a good Left tackle and Center from the Steelers/Denver/Colts/Chiefs, like we did with the Jets in 2003.

Samuels is gone, and Dockery, Jansen & Thomas are the only linemen that stay. Any suggestions for linemen we can lure away from Denver/Steelers/Chiefs/Colts?

4. Resign Smoot and Pierce and keep the secondary intact. Barrow is gone.

5. Retain all defensive coaches (especially Blache). Daniels & Wynn are gone.

6. Rod Gardner traded for a pick. With our 1st round pick, we take Mike Williams. I keep Mccants purely for his red zone value, and keep Jacobs & Thrash as well. With Williams, even though there is no blazing speed, you can lob the ball in his general direction and guarantee he will win the 1 on 1 matchup like Moss, or a Todd Heap.

Regarding TEs/ H-backs, Kozlowski is gone.

8. Ideally, I'd also want to trade Ramsey to the Dolphins for their 1st round pick, and somehow end up signing Drew Brees. He may not have Ramsey's cannon, but he sees the field better and can throw with anticipation. As for him learning the nuances of Gibbs offense, it doesn't seem like its too complicated an offense to master.

9. Special teams - we fire Danny Smith and bring in a Gary Zauner (Ravens) or the like. As much as I hate Sellers for his boneheaded penalties, he is worth keeping for the blocks and tackles he makes on special teams - not to mention a decent replacement at H-back, should Cooley be injured.[/QUOTE]

1. How about making Steelers OC Ken Whisenhunt an Assistant Head Coach/Offense here?

2. This was Byner's first year in a coaching capacity I think he's ready to take on a bigger role

3. With the money they'll need to keep Shaun Alexander and Hasselbeck (if they choose to keep him) should we consider taking Walter Jones from the Seahawks

4. Agree. Financially I don't if letting Barrow go is a great idea but I would like to see Clemons get some more playing time. Could be another Shawn Barber

5. I'd hold onto Wynn and Daniels until we find some depth to replace them. Plus Daniels can play some DT as well

6. Let's hope Coles gets healthy. Ramsey clicks well with McCants. And I think Jacobs needs to be given more playing time. I think he can be a real game breaker. I like Gardner but it's time to trade him I think. I might go after Mushin Muhammad or TJ Houshmandzadeh instead of Mike Williams

7. Beyond Cooley and Royal I don't think any TE/HB is safe

8. I think we should stick with Ramsey, no need to start at QB all over again

9. I'd hold onto Danny Smith. Since he's a Gregg Williams guy I do wonder though if he has some bigger plans for Smith if and when he becomes the next HC of the Skins

Is anyone considering the actual picks we do have? I do agree with some things. Re-sign Pierce (before Sunday), possibly Smoot (only if negotiations don't get out of hand). Restructure Brunell, if possible, Samuels (unlikely). Let Gardner (contract expires at season's end), Morton, Kozlowski, and Barrow go. I believe a 'surprising' trade is bound to happen. Maybe Betts (remember how well Simon seemed to play before he got hur?), Ramsey, or Arrington (gasp!). Having few high selections in the draft, that's the only way we'll aquire more. By trading someone who has trade value. A WR is priortiy. I say we need a guy like Bethel Johnson. Or possibly a CB (replacement for Smoot) in the mold of Jerry Azumah. No coincidence both of these guys have PR/KR experience. DE is also a great need. Quality Cs, OLs, and TEs will have to be found in later rounds but whoever is brought in to shore up the D-line and possibly replace L.A. will do just fine.

If we traded Ramsey to the Dolphins and actually got their first rounder. I'd go after the guy from Cal (Rodgers I think) and Mike Williams with our pick.

i certainly would'nt keep barrow,he did'nt have to do shit this year and he got a fat paycheck.i would keep arrington,ramsey,coles,and thrash.jansen will be back,we have to keep pierce and smoot.show morton,the door and tell him not to let it hit him where the good lord split him on the way out.gibbs needs to get creative in the play calling dept,and the special teams too.the whole team needs to be analyzed from start to finish.i'm sure
gibbs and the coaches will start doing that next monday.i still feel a lot better about the skins this year than i did last year at this time.i never saw them quit in any game,and the only game they really got blown out of was the first eagles game.the skins will be a lot better next year guys,have faith in the man who brought the redskins 3 lombardi trophies.

[QUOTE=Daseal]If we traded Ramsey to the Dolphins and actually got their first rounder. I'd go after the guy from Cal (Rodgers I think) and Mike Williams with our pick.[/QUOTE]


I know you didnt say this, but I would be shocked if right now we got a SECOND rounder for Ramsey, and I'm one of his biggest supporters. Not that we should trade him, becasue I dont think we should and wont. Just saying.

Gmac - me too. That's why I said and actually got their first rounder 8)

Personally, I like Ramsey a lot. Rogers just has that mobility that it seems Gibbs covets.

How do we get Hasselbeck in? I at least want him to compete for the #2 spot. And I'm more than sure there's a team or two interested in Ramsey. On offense, Gibbs seems to want guys he can trust to take care of the ball. Just like he found out that Betts, and Ramsey to a lower degree, are capable of doing that, he has give younger guys an opportunity. Oh yeah, nothing will make me happier to see that Daniels is given his walking papers. For some reason him and Brunell were exempt from taking a physical before being signed.

[QUOTE=BossHog]Oh yeah, nothing will make me happier to see that Daniels is given his walking papers. For some reason him and Brunell were exempt from taking a physical before being signed.[/QUOTE]


Have to disagree with you there. Have you ever seen Brunell play in shorts? Hes the best quarterback of all time (except maybe Jeff George ) without Pads.

[QUOTE=BossHog]How do we get Hasselbeck in? I at least want him to compete for the #2 spot. And I'm more than sure there's a team or two interested in Ramsey. On offense, Gibbs seems to want guys he can trust to take care of the ball. Just like he found out that Betts, and Ramsey to a lower degree, are capable of doing that, he has give younger guys an opportunity. Oh yeah, nothing will make me happier to see that Daniels is given his walking papers. For some reason him and Brunell were exempt from taking a physical before being signed.[/QUOTE]
You're kinda right about Brunell, from what remember the Skins didn't work him out before signing him. I guess they liked what they saw on film, man was that a mistake.

As for Daniels seems like he fell on some crap luck this year. Blache knows him well so I trust he's a quality player when healthy. Daniels will most likely be back next year.

my boy who is a cowboys fan said we should trade smoot for a 1st round and draft antel rolle. i think i agree

I for one want to keep Daniels as long as he's ready next year. The 3 plays he was in for he got a decent push. I think he's just had a bad run with injuries. I'd also like to see Wynn restructure and come back. Sure, he's not an allstar, but he's solid and can help stop the run. We can't have an all-star at every position.

[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]my boy who is a cowboys fan said we should trade smoot for a 1st round and draft antel rolle. i think i agree[/QUOTE]


I disagree. First of all, I dont think we'd get a first for Smoot. Second of all, I dont like the idea of trading one good player, just to draft another good player in the same position. Whats the point? Smoot proved that he could to the job, sure he had a bad game last week, but why on earth would we trade him, just to replace him with the thing we trade for.


Now if you said, you think Walt Harris could do the job, and we should trade smoot to get an Olineman or somthing, that makes more sense.

if smoot wants a uncap friendly contract then what? if we can't sign him we have to find other options... phillip buccanon of the Raiders, or another less costly option like antrel in the draft... regaurdless of what round a drafted player contract is more feasible than a person being resigned

First off lets start with the main problem this season and thats the Offense. If I were calling the shots I would start with the offensive line. Jansen will be returning next season so thats a plus already. Like people have already stated, the Samuels salary is a big issue. If he doesn't want to restructure than we must look elsewhere or keep that inflated pricetag at a heavy cost. One name that sticks out in my mind is Dockery. If he could step up and play left tackle than that would be awesum. I think he played well last season when Samuels went down. If that happens then we would have two other positions on the O line that would need fixing. I don't think Raymer will be back next season nor Freidman. Lets hope Mark Wilson pans out and can contribute next season at left guard. As for Raymer I would look into a young free agent or possibly a trade for my next concern, wide out. The biggest question here is Coles. Will he have the surgery or will he play another year on that toe? I know about the concern about him not playing football again if the surgery doesn't work out but I feel that he wont have a future if he doesn't get the surgery either. Gardner is a question because he just doesn't have the break away speed that is so desperately needed. He has size though and that could get us a center that we need. I too believe that Taylor should be given an opportunity to show what he can do and MCcants should also. MCcants will probably be traded even though I would keep him. This Antonio Brown guy looks like he has some burners so we'll see. That leaves our first round pick, I think Gibbs will trade down for a later first rounder and a second rounder, possibly with the Chargers who have two first rounders. Yes we could get Mathias Kiwanuka for our first pick but who knows if it would work out and what about Daniels, Williams will have to be the judge on that one. As for a FB, I would look for a cheap free agent or use Mike Sellers. I don't think Cartwright will be here next season. As for TE, I think we will be ok with what we have for next season. Cooley is our threat and Royal seems to block ok aswell as Kozlowski. Now onto QB. I've said it before so I wont get into it again about Ramsey, If Gibbs feels that he is our starter for next season then so be it. Brunell should take a pay cut but if he doesn't then there isn't much we can do about it for another season. The RB position is gonna be alright, Portis will improve with better blocking and Betts is a strong backup. As for the Defense, I believe we are four players away from absolutely dominating the league. Wynn is first he has 3 sacks this season and that just doesn't cut it. I don't know if we use the first rounder for a LE but it might happen. Daniels will need to stay healthy next season for this scenario to succeed. Griffin and Salave'a are good inside players that are going to get even better next season with a couple of ends that bring it. I would keep Noble and Haley maybe at reduces salaries if possible but thats not gonna happen. Warner will be a force next season too. The LB position is good but we need to resign Pierce and let Barrow go. The CB position needs Smoot to stay and we need Ade Jimoh to improve aswell as Harris, no more stupid pass interference calls. If Harris and Jimoh improve then we wont need two of the players out of the four I mentioned above. Also Springs needs to have another great year next season. As for safety, will Bowen play here next season, what about Franz? I think Williams will go out and look for better players in the safety and backup CB positions. The special teams will improve with Brown returning punts and Betts returning kickoffs. Morton will be gone next year and we need more speed on special teams coverage. The next issue is not a player problem but possibly a league issue. That is, will we be given a fair chance next season from the refs??? I have never in my 20+ years of watching NFL football seen so many horrible calls go our way. I can say the same for injuries, half our defense is out and our best Offensive lineman out for the season, before the season even begins. These two things will have to improve next season for this team to have any chance at winning.

Smoot is certainly going to be looking for a fair deal, but I don't think he's going to be hard to re-sign. He seems like he's really committed to being a Redskin.

Pierce on the other hand seems to be looking for the payday and that worries me just a bit. I just hope his production doesn't fall off once he inks that new deal.

earlier in the post i stated we should take chad owens out of Hawaii who is a awsome special teams player or deandra cobb of mich st. both lead ncaa in special teams returns for td's

my 2005- 06 roster for the redskins would be as follows:

QB: 1st PRamsey 2nd TChang(hawaii) 3rd Brunnell
RB: Portis, Betts (change of pace), Zach Crockett (goalline raiders trade)
H-back: Cooley, Sellers
TE: Heath Miller(Virginia), Royal, blocking TE(jason dunn Chiefs)
T: Samuels, Jansen, Backup Mark Wilson, Jim Molinaro
G: Randy thomas, Derrick Dockery, Ray brown (back up)
C: Michigan Center, vet backup
WR: Coles, Mike Williams, Gardner, Thrash, Jacobs
DE: Darren Howard, Daniels, Rookie backup
DT: Griffin, Salavaii, Hovan
OLB: same
MLB: Same
Secondary Same keep ryan clark as starting SS
(pickup if contract with smoot didn't work out; Phil. Buccanon and some picks)
Pr/Kr: Chad owens (hawaii)

How do you expect to get Chang, Miller, and Williams? Chang we can get in later rounds, but Miller and Williams are both first rounders. Miller is seen as the top TE this year according to Mel Kipper, and Williams is seen as either the #1 or #2 receiver.