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Crazy stuff going on across the pond

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/london-riots]London riots | UK news | guardian.co.uk[/url]

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Watch live here

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675]BBC News - London riots[/url]

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So what fueled these riots? (No pun intended)

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Started with this shooting

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/08/mark-duggan-handgun-lethal-weapon]Mark Duggan handgun tests show conversion into lethal weapon | UK news | The Guardian[/url]

Then I believe BlackBerry Messenger communities got together and it expanded

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We should probably be doing the same thing in DC.

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I also want to comment on how much better the BBC news is compared to ours. By now, we'd have 20 pundits talking about who's the blame, and giving their political views on the situation.

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[quote=NC_Skins;821232]We should probably be doing the same thing in DC.[/quote]

rioting? Oh yes, destruction, vandalism and violence. Excellent problem solving tools.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;821238]rioting? Oh yes, destruction, vandalism and violence. Excellent problem solving tools.[/quote]

Seemed to work the first time this country formed. I am against the looting though. That's just common thuggery.

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revolution, with a shadow government in place, is slightly different than burning property and general, mindless destruction.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;821240]revolution, with a shadow government in place, is slightly different than burning property and general, mindless destruction.[/quote]


I agree with that 100%. I was commenting on us really, not so much their situation.

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[quote=NC_Skins;821235]I also want to comment on how much better the BBC news is compared to ours. By now, we'd have 20 pundits talking about who's the blame, and giving their political views on the situation.[/quote]

Only if you intentionally tuned in and watched them.

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[quote=NC_Skins;821239]Seemed to work the first time this country formed. I am against the looting though. That's just common thuggery.[/quote]

So which parts of riots in the USA are you advocating other than looting?
The burning of private buildings?
Attacking police?
Attacking people in another class?

Keep in mind you are referring to rioting....not a protest march.

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Time to declare marshall law and shoot these mindless looting fckers on sight.

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Sorry.....no guns. Perhaps they could Bobby-stick a few.....

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[quote=saden1;821721]Time to declare marshall law and shoot these mindless looting fckers on sight.[/quote]

That's what I was thinking last night when watching this go down.

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[quote=NC_Skins;821232]We should probably be doing the same thing in DC.[/quote]

See in the US we have elections every two years and you have the chance to vote out the people you do not like. You can even do like 12th and volunteer to help the people you support to get elected.

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[quote=firstdown;821804]See in the US we have elections every two years and you have the chance to vote out the people you do not like. You can even do like 12th and volunteer to help the people you support to get elected.[/quote]

interesting article explaining the British voting structure. Far more different than ours than I had thought.

edit: Oops forgot the link LOL

[url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,856939-2,00.html]Foreign News: HOW BRITISH ELECTIONS WORK - TIME[/url]

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This sums up the situation.

[img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/09/article-2024203-0D5F1DBD00000578-126_470x578.jpg[/img]

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[quote=Hog1;821728]Sorry.....no guns. Perhaps they could Bobby-stick a few.....[/quote]


[URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024485/Manchester-riots-Police-chase-gang-suspected-thugs-clobber-truncheons.html?ITO=1490"]Like this?[/URL]

Bobby Stick = truncheon

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And on another positive note:

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024446/Operation-cleanup-Broom-armies-spring-UK-reclaim-streets-looters.html?ITO=1490]Operation cleanup: Broom armies spring up across the UK to reclaim the streets from looters | Mail Online[/url]

[I]Just hours after thugs left cars and buildings burning and streets littered with shop-window glass, thousands of volunteers from London to Manchester have turned out with to reclaim their streets.Broom army: Hundreds of residents turned out in a rainy Manchester centre to clean up their city[/I]

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Do you think people check sizes when looting clothing? You know you have a bad business concept when it can't even get looted in London.

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[quote=NC_Skins;821235]I also want to comment on how much better the BBC news is compared to ours. By now, we'd have 20 pundits talking about who's the blame, and giving their political views on the situation.[/quote]

Yup, we would have Fox blaming Obama and MSNBC blaming G.W. Bush. And they probably wouldn't report much on what was happening.

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I like what Uncle Jimbo has to say on the topic:

[I][URL="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/08/the-progeny-of-a-welfare-state.html"]London is burning and the search is on for a way to avoid the bleedingly obvious, the welfare state has created a class off looters and moochers.[/URL][/I]

May even be deserving of a separate thread....

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[quote=RedskinRat;821831]And on another positive note:

[URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024446/Operation-cleanup-Broom-armies-spring-UK-reclaim-streets-looters.html?ITO=1490"]Operation cleanup: Broom armies spring up across the UK to reclaim the streets from looters | Mail Online[/URL]

[I]Just hours after thugs left cars and buildings burning and streets littered with shop-window glass, thousands of volunteers from London to Manchester have turned out with to reclaim their streets.Broom army: Hundreds of residents turned out in a rainy Manchester centre to clean up their city[/I][/quote]


The negative side to a positive note:

[URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/health-and-safety-rules-keep-london-residents-from-cleaning-up-damage-after-riots/"]London Residents Looking to Clean After Riots Turned Away For Health and Safety Concerns | Video | TheBlaze.com[/URL]

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[IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/10/article-2024446-0D5D283100000578-260_634x524.jpg[/IMG]

NICE!!!!!!

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Summer Olympics next year?
.......should be interesting

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[img]http://i.imgur.com/YER86.png[/img]

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Lol!

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This is ridiculous with the American media. No live coverage of Vancouver and no live coverage of London. I guess someone has to riot outside the CNN or Fox News studio to encourage American outlets to cover crap other then American Idol ratings and JLo's divorce.

Heck even BBC America didn't switch up their programming during the riots.

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Jlo's divorced? oh no... i mean... oh yes!

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[quote=firstdown;821804]See in the US we have elections every two years and you have the chance to vote out the people you do not like. You can even do like 12th and volunteer to help the people you support to get elected.[/quote]


Voting in another person (regardless of party) into a corrupt system isn't going to change anything. The system itself needs changing.


[quote=RedskinRat;821850]I like what Uncle Jimbo has to say on the topic:

[I][URL="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/08/the-progeny-of-a-welfare-state.html"]London is burning and the search is on for a way to avoid the bleedingly obvious, the welfare state has created a class off looters and moochers.[/URL][/I]

May even be deserving of a separate thread....[/quote]

Uncle Jimbo is a hack and a complete dumbass. No, he doesn't need his separate thread.

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[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/11/london-riots-davidcameron/print]UK riots: Big Brother isn't watching you | UK news | The Guardian[/url]


Absolutely amazing article written by Russel Brand of all people. Do yourself a favor and read it. I've included a few paragraphs that stood out to me.


[quote]I remember Cameron saying "hug a hoodie" but I haven't seen him doing it. Why would he? Hoodies don't vote, they've realised it's pointless, that whoever gets elected will just be a different shade of the "we don't give a toss about you" party.

Politicians don't represent the interests of people who don't vote. They barely care about the people who do vote. They look after the corporations who get them elected. Cameron only spoke out against News International when it became evident to us, US, the people, not to him (like Rose West, "He must've known") that the newspapers Murdoch controlled were happy to desecrate the dead in the pursuit of another exploitative, distracting story.[/quote]


[quote]Why am I surprised that these young people behave destructively, "mindlessly", motivated only by self-interest? How should we describe the actions of the city bankers who brought our economy to its knees in 2010? Altruistic? Mindful? Kind? But then again, they do wear suits, so they deserve to be bailed out, perhaps that's why not one of them has been imprisoned. And they got away with a lot more than a few ****ing pairs of trainers.
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[quote=SmootSmack;821212]Crazy stuff going on across the pond

[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/london-riots"]London riots | UK news | guardian.co.uk[/URL][/quote]


Shits getting real crazy:

[IMG]http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/london-riots-270x178.jpg[/IMG]

[URL="http://blog.noneck.org/"]noneck[/URL]

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[quote=NC_Skins;823166][URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/11/london-riots-davidcameron/print"]UK riots: Big Brother isn't watching you | UK news | The Guardian[/URL]


Absolutely amazing article written by Russel Brand of all people. Do yourself a favor and read it. I've included a few paragraphs that stood out to me.[/quote]

Actually its a pretty stupid article. Its like he is using our politics to excuse their riots.

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[quote=firstdown;823447]Actually its a pretty stupid article. Its like he is using our politics to excuse their riots.[/quote]

I agree. Never heard of him. Had to google him.
He says -[I] But I know, as we all intuitively know, the solution is all around us and it isn't political, it is spiritual. Gandhi said: "Be the change you want to see in the world."[/I]

What a load of crap.

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[quote=firstdown;823447]Actually its a pretty stupid article. Its like he is using our politics to excuse their riots.[/quote]



[quote=Alvin Walton;823470]I agree.

What a load of crap.[/quote]

If both of you got that out of the article, then you maybe you need to reread it again. Where are you getting he's using "our" politics to excuse their riots? Hell, he makes no mention of us at all other than the fact he lives in the US now. You realize there are other places in the world besides America right?


Also, ever thought that maybe their politics are a lot like ours. (which it is...and corrupted and out of touch with its people)

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[quote=NC_Skins;823547]If both of you got that out of the article, then you maybe you need to reread it again. Where are you getting he's using "our" politics to excuse their riots? Hell, he makes no mention of us at all other than the fact he lives in the US now. You realize there are other places in the world besides America right?


Also, ever thought that maybe their politics are a lot like ours. (which it is...and corrupted and out of touch with its people)[/quote]

This statement and a few others. I'm not saying he used only our politics but he did use them on several occasions.

"How should we describe the actions of the city bankers who brought our economy to its knees in 2010? Altruistic? Mindful? Kind? But then again, they do wear suits, so they deserve to be bailed out, perhaps that's why not one of them has been imprisoned. And they got away with a lot more than a few ****ing pairs of trainers."

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[quote=firstdown;823595]This statement and a few others. I'm not saying he used only our politics but he did use them on several occasions.

"How should we describe the actions of the city bankers who brought our economy to its knees in 2010? Altruistic? Mindful? Kind? But then again, they do wear suits, so they deserve to be bailed out, perhaps that's why not one of them has been imprisoned. And they got away with a lot more than a few ****ing pairs of trainers."[/quote]




I suggest you read up on world events bro. It seems to me you are living in a bubble world. He's not talking about our politics and he never mentioned it once. YOU on the other hand assumed he's been talking about ours since their situation basically mirrors ours.

[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7666570.stm]BBC NEWS | Business | UK banks receive £37bn bail-out[/url]


[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/163850bn-official-cost-of-the-bank-bailout-1833830.html]£850bn: official cost of the bank bailout - UK Politics, UK - The Independent[/url]


[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8041168/UK-banks-could-need-2011-bail-out-warns-New-Economics-Foundation.html]UK banks could need 2011 bail-out, warns New Economics Foundation - Telegraph[/url]


Contrary to what you believe, there are other countries out there besides United States AND they are going through the same crap we are. It's arrogant and foolish to think so small minded.


So again, show me where he's talking about US politics?

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I havent been following this thread at all so maybe this has been posted or talked about, but England is a pretty dangerous place:[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html"][COLOR=#670100]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Some of it is obviously the way statics are measures in England vs other countries (clearly So. Africa is more dangerous), but Great Briton is no safe place. Whats interesting is a lot of these countries have very tough gun laws when compared to the US, yet US ranks below Canada? Maybe someone crazy enough to hurt or kill someone by using a gun would also be willing to hurt or kill someone not using a gun…. who knew…[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg[/IMG][/FONT][/COLOR]

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

Read more: [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html#ixzz1VCTqag6E]The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Mail Online[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;823640]I suggest you read up on world events bro. It seems to me you are living in a bubble world. He's not talking about our politics and he never mentioned it once. YOU on the other hand assumed he's been talking about ours since their situation basically mirrors ours.

[URL="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7666570.stm"]BBC NEWS | Business | UK banks receive £37bn bail-out[/URL]


[URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/163850bn-official-cost-of-the-bank-bailout-1833830.html"]£850bn: official cost of the bank bailout - UK Politics, UK - The Independent[/URL]


[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8041168/UK-banks-could-need-2011-bail-out-warns-New-Economics-Foundation.html"]UK banks could need 2011 bail-out, warns New Economics Foundation - Telegraph[/URL]


Contrary to what you believe, there are other countries out there besides United States AND they are going through the same crap we are. [B]It's arrogant and foolish to think so small minded.[/B]


So again, show me where he's talking about US politics?[/quote]

EDIT. Not worth it. You do realize the guy was probably stonded when he wrote this so it makes more sense to you.