2011 Redskins Defensive Rookie of the Year
 

Who will be the Redskins Defensive Rookie of the Year?

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Jenkins Being from Texas just going by what I have been reading

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Jenkins is a beast and doesn't have to change positions so he will hunker down and be the best.

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Kerrigan, I'm saying 8 sacks

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Kerrigan's stats will be flashier, but Jenkins will have the bigger impact.

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Kerrigan, for two reasons.

A. With Orakpo on the other side, Kerrigan will have a lot easier time getting to the quarterback.

B. I'd love to pick Jarvis Jenkins, but even if he stands out in the preseason he's still going to split time with Stephen Bowen, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for the team, but it's going to make it even harder for him to have a bigger impact than Kerrigan. Plus with 3-4 DE's you only see so much visual impact, he might be great at doing what his assignment is (blocking o-linemen) but it's not going to show up on the stat sheet, whereas Kerrigan's impact will (tackles, sacks, tackles for a loss)

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Kerrigan might get the Sacks, but I think Jenkins will have the better overall play for this year. (barring injuries of course)

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Kerrigan... kids the next Mike Vrabel.. or better

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[quote=Skins4L;821345]Kerrigan... kids the next Mike Vrabel.. or better[/quote]

Wow, we're throwing to him at the goal line? Nice.

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I've gotta say I'm ecstatic about Jenkins standing out
so far. I'm pumped that our DL could actually be a strength

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Jenkins is off to a great start no doubt. Can't wait to see him in some live action.

For the season still got my money on Kerrigan.

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I was surprised with how much Warren Sapp dogged Jarvis for being drafted so high. His tape showed nothing but promise. Jarvis will see the field a lot even though Bowen was paid starter money. Can I get a Jarvis Jenkins avatar please.

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[quote=mooby;821260]Kerrigan, for two reasons.

A. With Orakpo on the other side, Kerrigan will have a lot easier time getting to the quarterback.

B. I'd love to pick Jarvis Jenkins, but even if he stands out in the preseason he's still going to split time with Stephen Bowen, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for the team, but it's going to make it even harder for him to have a bigger impact than Kerrigan. Plus with 3-4 DE's you only see so much visual impact, he might be great at doing what his assignment is (blocking o-linemen) but it's not going to show up on the stat sheet, whereas Kerrigan's impact will (tackles, sacks, tackles for a loss)[/quote]

Agreed.

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I voted Kerrigan.

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Choices are slim, since we only have two rookie defenders from the draft that will get enough playing time to even qualify.......J. Jenkins

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jenkins will turn out to be the better player most likely, but i went with kerrigan because he'll see the field more this year & have more opportunities. this is not to say that kerrigan won't be any good in the future. in a few seasons i see jenkins being a starter for years to come.

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[quote=Longtimefan;821519]Choices are slim,[B] since we only have two rookie defenders from the draft that will get enough playing time to even qualify[/B].......J. Jenkins[/quote]

When was the last time we could say we had a draft where we were looking at at least 4 potential rookies (Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, shit even N. Paul from what I'm hearing) that could have a good impact their rookie season. I'm excited for this upcoming season if for no other reason than we have an awesome crop of rookies that could make impacts, I can't remember the last time I felt that way.

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Kerrigan has to battle a position change, DE to LB, a knee dislocation and the pressure of being a high 1st round pick. A ton is expected of him. Just like it was not easy for Orakpo, I think Kerrigan will have growing pains.
Jarvis Jenkins position is easier to transition to the NFL in that he does not have to think as much and just has to beat the guy in front of him. He has the size and strength to play from day 1. He is already getting noticed in camp. Can not say the same for Kerrigan. Kerrigan's position requires a ton of study and being in the right place at the right time. A lot more room for error.
Jenkins will do better in his first year. Kerrigan will pass him up as the year goes on and into his second year.

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apparently de jon gomes is doing really well thus far. he could end up having a nice impact this season in an area where we may be a bit thin.

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jenkins. kerrigan is a bit slow with his transition.

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I'm going with Jenkins too.

[quote=diehard;821410]I was surprised with how much Warren Sapp dogged Jarvis for being drafted so high. His tape showed nothing but promise. Jarvis will see the field a lot even though Bowen was paid starter money. Can I get a Jarvis Jenkins avatar please.[/quote]

If JJ gets an avatar before even playing a snap, I'm filing an official protest to the Avatar master (is it jamf?). Fred Davis has been put on the back-burner long enough!

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I went with Jenkins, mostly because I'm not sold on Kerrigan having the abilities to excel.

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I expect Jenkins to have a good year and for a lot of teams to wish they had drafted him. -- Could Ryan Kerrigan be the Redskins' opening day starter at outside linebacker? "I wouldn't be surprised," Jim Haslett said. Kerrigan may not start out fast, but I expect him to be playing at a high level before long. Funny what some well timed sacks will do for your value. I pick Kerrigan.

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[quote=53Fan;822093]I expect Jenkins to have a good year and for a lot of teams to wish they had drafted him. -- Could Ryan Kerrigan be the Redskins' opening day starter at outside linebacker? "I wouldn't be surprised," Jim Haslett said. Kerrigan may not start out fast, but I expect him to be playing at a high level before long. Funny what some well timed sacks will do for your value. I pick Kerrigan.[/quote]


Glad to see you don't hold a grudge. If he had changed from my # to another # I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED for him, you are definitely the bigger person. LOL

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[quote=53Fan;822093]I expect Jenkins to have a good year and for a lot of teams to wish they had drafted him. -- Could Ryan Kerrigan be the Redskins' opening day starter at outside linebacker? "I wouldn't be surprised," Jim Haslett said. Kerrigan may not start out fast, but I expect him to be playing at a high level before long. Funny what some well timed sacks will do for your value. I pick Kerrigan.[/quote]
Agree with 53 ,my new mantra :) Sacks make a visual impact , along with J.Jenkins , Cofield , Bowens and R. Jackson we should be better along our front 7 .

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[quote=budw38;822098][B]Agree with 53 ,my new mantra :) [/B]Sacks make a visual impact , along with J.Jenkins , Cofield , Bowens and R. Jackson we should be better along our front 7 .[/quote]

I like the sound of that budw38. :) Seriously from the reports I've been reading, our new D-Line should make things easier for our LB's. Kerrigan has an all out motor and can definitely get to the QB. If Cofield starts drawing double and triple teams and Jarvis continues playing the way he has in camp, Orakpo and Kerrigan should have a lot of fun this year. ;)

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IMO, they wont be using kerrigan in too much coverage where he will struggle... and I don't think they will be able to keep Jenkins off the damn field ..
Its a tough choice but I'm going with Jenkins, I think.position change they're forcing on kerrigan will hirt him in his rookie year

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It's unfair to expect a lot from Kerrigan this year. If anything we shouldn't really expect to see him playing at a relatively high level till the 2nd half of the season. I think by that time he will show his ability. I voted Jenkins cause overall I think he'll fare better & Haslett likes to rotate his d line, so we may only see JJ when he's pretty fresh.

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to be different, I went with Chris Neild. Kerrigan and Jenkins both have the best shot, but Neild brings a specific need to the team, if he is able to get in and clog up the middle he may be the best guy that we won't hear anything about.

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[quote=freddyg12;822107]It's unfair to expect a lot from Kerrigan this year.[B] If anything we shouldn't really expect to see him playing at a relatively high level till the 2nd half of the season. I think by that time he will show his ability.[/B] I voted Jenkins cause overall I think he'll fare better & Haslett likes to rotate his d line, so we may only see JJ when he's pretty fresh.[/quote]

I agree Freddy and that's what I stated in my first post. If he really turns it on in the second half of the season..well....what better time to do it? I don't think they're expecting him to cover nearly as much as put pressure on the QB. Either way, I hope at the end of the year the rookies play so well it's a hard decision to make.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;822109]to be different, I went with Chris Neild. Kerrigan and Jenkins both have the best shot, but Neild brings a specific need to the team, if he is able to get in and clog up the middle he may be the best guy that we won't hear anything about.[/quote]

Get back to work C.

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[quote=53Fan;822131]Get back to work C.[/quote]

:food-smil Hey 53, I am working verrrry hard! (or atleast somewhat)

Football game tomorrow, and me and the kids are gonna be there as one last fling before they leave. Skins better not disappoint.

And Neild for league Defensive MVP, that's my motto! LOL

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Hope the Skins put on a great show for the kids! Have a great time man! Neild all the way baby!!!

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Glad to see Jarvis doing good, since most "experts" had him as a reach in the 2nd.

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I think Nelid, Jenkins and Kerrigan will all have an impact. However, without injuries along the d-line I think Kerrigan will get the most opportunities for the big play (sacks, fumble recoveries, maybe even a pick off a deflected pass).

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[quote=freddyg12;822107]It's unfair to expect a lot from Kerrigan this year. If anything we shouldn't really expect to see him playing at a relatively high level till the 2nd half of the season. I think by that time he will show his ability. I voted Jenkins cause overall I think he'll fare better & Haslett likes to rotate his d line, so we may only see JJ when he's pretty fresh.[/quote]
True , however , if Haslett uses him primarily as a pass rusher early in the season as he learns the position ; he should provide a punch in getting after the qb .

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[quote=53Fan;822105]I like the sound of that budw38. :) Seriously from the reports I've been reading, our new D-Line should make things easier for our LB's. Kerrigan has an all out motor and can definitely get to the QB. If Cofield starts drawing double and triple teams and Jarvis continues playing the way he has in camp, Orakpo and Kerrigan should have a lot of fun this year. ;)[/quote]
Who knows , maybe Kerrigan gives us many great years like one M. Washington :)

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It's gotta be Kerrigan. Not necessarily because of talent, but because of opportunity. Kerrigan is starting, and Jenkins will be a rotational player. With Cofield, Bowen, Carriker starting, he just won't get on the field as much as kerrigan. Also, the depth at DL is much better than at OLB. Alexander is all we got to backup two guys, and he plays much differently than kerrigan being that he is a run stuffer. Golston and Bryant may not be as good as Jenkins, but they will get playing time as well, which will further impact Jenkins's impact on the field.

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I'm going w/ Jenkins. From the reports, he looks impressive.