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Dirtbag59 08-21-2011 02:45 AM

Game Tape: Preseason Week 2 vs Colts
 
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Same deal as last week. Videos are unlisted. If you want to view them outside the thread use the like, favorite, or history features when viewing the video on YouTube. I have no problem with anyone forwarding the video(s) to friends or family, nor do I mind anyone posting the video(s) on other forums.

Also if you are viewing this around 3:00 AM Eastern Time don't worry about the grainy quality. It will improve to options up to 720p once the video is fully processed.

[B]Upcoming videos -[/B] Helu, Hightower, Grossman

[B]Possible Video -[/B] Kerrigan

skins89moss 08-21-2011 05:00 AM

Re: Game Tape: Preseason Week 2 vs Colts
 
Great Vid Dirtbag, I have not seen the game yet. I will watch it Sunday on NFL Network.
HTTR

Hog1 08-21-2011 09:30 AM

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Great stuff Dbag! Love to watch the vids multiple times.

rbanerjee23 08-21-2011 09:34 AM

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Thanks for the reel DB -- One thing I liked is that most of the sacks (all by estimation) were due to the pocket completely breaking down and boxing him in which is very difficult to deal with. But after each sack, he seemed to come back and have a good, positive play. Very encouraging so far, can't wait to see what he does next game.

hooskins 08-21-2011 09:46 AM

I missed the game and the highlights help me see why the beckwagon is moving at full speed. thanks.

I like how one of the tags is "book of John" lol.

Dirtbag59 08-21-2011 01:14 PM

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No problem guys. In the meantime check this guy out. Guy knows his stuff and should now be declared the king of Skins beat writers.

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/tale-tape-redskins-offense-0]Tale of the tape: Redskins offense | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/tale-tape-redskins-defense-0]Tale of the tape: Redskins defense | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

JWsleep 08-21-2011 01:33 PM

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Awesome, DB! Thanks, man.

I like the pocket presence and quick, sharp delivery--that 3rd down play to Stallworth was very impressive.

Obviously, we'd like to see him get the ball down field, but still, a very strong début. Of course, B-more will be a bigger challenge.

Paintrain 08-21-2011 02:42 PM

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Good stuff DB. Lots to like-quick release, mobility, eyes downfield... He really needs to go to the Peyton Manning school of play action because those were pretty weak but all in all for his first extended game action since 2007 it was not too shabby.

That Guy 08-21-2011 03:13 PM

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he seemed to get anxious about protection a bit too early on a bunch of plays... seemed like he only looked for dump offs, but he did what he did pretty well. hopefully we can see him against baltimore, cause the colts are 4-24 in preseason games.

hooskins 08-21-2011 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;825497]No problem guys. In the meantime check this guy out. Guy knows his stuff and should now be declared the king of Skins beat writers.

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/tale-tape-redskins-offense-0]Tale of the tape: Redskins offense | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/tale-tape-redskins-defense-0]Tale of the tape: Redskins defense | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url][/QUOTE]
Keim is one of the few guys I read. Deep, thorough but simple analysis.

30gut 08-21-2011 07:46 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;825452][B]Upcoming videos -[/B] Helu, Hightower, Grossman

[B]Possible Video -[/B] Kerrigan[/quote]

You already know you're the man.
Can I ask you for a favor?
Can you include the pitch/toss sweep to Draughn in the 4th qtr?
If you need the time the play occured I can post it.

tc2deuce 08-21-2011 08:10 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;825497]No problem guys. In the meantime check this guy out. Guy knows his stuff and should now be declared the king of Skins beat writers.

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/tale-tape-redskins-offense-0]Tale of the tape: Redskins offense | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/08/tale-tape-redskins-defense-0]Tale of the tape: Redskins defense | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url][/quote]

I see what he is saying but there is a problem with his analysis, it is a preseason game. You can not accurately make a true assessment of Beck in one preseason game. There are reasons why they do not open the playbook in exhibition games so that is why we saw 10-20 yard passes and quick dump offs. Beck has an arm and we will see that in due time but what impressed me the most was his pose and his management of the field. I am not saying Beck is a Pro-Bowler or even the starter at this point but we have to take what we see in these 4 BS games with a grain of salt. This team does have a nice vibe going thru it so I do hope it translates onto the field come Sept 11th.

Dirtbag59 08-21-2011 08:28 PM

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[quote=30gut;825568]You already know you're the man.
Can I ask you for a favor?
Can you include the pitch/toss sweep to Draughn in the 4th qtr?
If you need the time the play occured I can post it.[/quote]

Yeah, thing is the only copy I had of the Colts game before just now was a 720p which is hard to edit on my outdated PC (but easy on my brothers PC which is where I put together the Beck video). Insane Boost though just uploaded a more manageable 432p copy so I can have more time to edit the videos on my computer without having to borrow my brothers.

I don't know if any of that makes sense but point is the videos will be finished in a day or two. And yes I'll put together a video of the toss sweep to Draughn.

On a side note I just found out that a fan for the Giants already had a channel similar to mine, of course he cheated went back in time and started his a month or two before mine but if you want to scout the Giants this is the place to go.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/user/NYGiantsCentral]NYGiantsCentralçš„é¢‘é“ - YouTube[/url]


[quote=tc2deuce;825574]I see what he is saying but there is a problem with his analysis, it is a preseason game. You can not accurately make a true assessment of Beck in one preseason game. There are reasons why they do not open the playbook in exhibition games so that is why we saw 10-20 yard passes and quick dump offs. Beck has an arm and we will see that in due time but what impressed me the most was his pose and his management of the field. I am not saying Beck is a Pro-Bowler or even the starter at this point but we have to take what we see in these 4 BS games with a grain of salt. This team does have a nice vibe going thru it so I do hope it translates onto the field come Sept 11th.[/quote]

I understand what you're saying but it was just more of me taking a shot at the Post "Football Insider" (Wizards and Caps Insider are still good in my book) focusing on tons of random stories while this guy is actually posting specific football related information. Basically I've noticed lately that over the years the Posts coverage of the Skins has seemingly become less and less about actual football.

Granted the RI article breaking down the roster is more of the type of stuff I'd like to see.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-roster-breakdown-who-has-the-best-chance-of-making-the-team/2011/08/21/gIQAvTD8TJ_blog.html#pagebreak]Redskins roster breakdown: Who has the best chance of making the team? - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

SirClintonPortis 08-21-2011 09:12 PM

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On the first play, Beck's first read was _apparently_ Moss. The play design had the left side flooded with receivers. The Colts had Moss and the underneath covered well.

Beck also "bounced his feet" twice and on the second "bounce", he threw the ball to Gaffney.

30gut 08-21-2011 09:20 PM

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[quote=DB]And yes I'll put together a video of the toss sweep to Draughn. [/quote]Its @ 3:20 in the 4th qtr.

Dirtbag59 08-22-2011 05:14 PM

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Hightower video added.
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Why can't I edit the first post? It seems on a lot of my post lately the edit option isn't available.

Hog1 08-22-2011 05:23 PM

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NICE work DB!! Love reviewing the games like this.

IrMitchell 08-22-2011 07:42 PM

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I just don't understand the Shanahan's at times. Last year when McNabb was pulled they starting calling screens plays all of a sudden for Rex. Now with Beck it's like they decide to just run one slant after another trying to help him out.

Grossman has a significantly better arm after watching the first two pre-season games and why they feel the need to protect who they like is beyond me. I'll take the guy who slings it down field over the check down guy who can't get in the endzone.

If Rex isn't the starter week 1, shame on Mike Shanahan/Kyle Shanahan.

NC_Skins 08-22-2011 07:45 PM

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[quote=IrMitchell;825825]I just don't understand the Shanahan's at times. Last year when McNabb was pulled they starting calling screens plays all of a sudden for Rex. .[/quote]


Yes. That's it. The Shanahan's are deliberately sabotoging QBs careers because they don't like them. Yup, they wasted a 2nd and 4th rounder JUST to trade for a QB to watch him fail by hampering him with plays that don't fit his skill set.

:doh:


Fans see what they want to see.

IrMitchell 08-22-2011 07:50 PM

Re: Game Tape: Preseason Week 2 vs Colts
 
[quote=NC_Skins;825826]Yes. That's it. The Shanahan's are deliberately sabotoging QBs careers because they don't like them. Yup, they wasted a 2nd and 4th rounder JUST to trade for a QB to watch him fail by hampering him with plays that don't fit his skill set.

:doh:


Fans see what they want to see.[/quote]
Do you not get it? This is after they'd come to the conclusion that they royalty messed up with the McNabb trade.

You can't tell me for one second that Rex didn't get plays called that were essentially "safe plays" when they went to him to end the season. It was not a coincidence that he was running screen plays and short passes, similar to John beck on Friday.

Make them both run the same plays and go deep like Kyle's "system" is supposedly set up for and see who's the better quarterback, because in my eyes Rex is the better runner and the better passer.

53Fan 08-22-2011 08:00 PM

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Good job Dirtbag and I love reading Keim's stuff.
:food-smil

Chico23231 08-22-2011 08:02 PM

Re: Game Tape: Preseason Week 2 vs Colts
 
[quote=IrMitchell;825825][B]I just don't understand the Shanahan's at times[/B]. Last year when McNabb was pulled they starting calling screens plays all of a sudden for Rex. Now with Beck it's like they decide to just run one slant after another trying to help him out.

Grossman has a significantly better arm after watching the first two pre-season games and why they feel the need to protect who they like is beyond me. I'll take the guy who slings it down field over the check down guy who can't get in the endzone.

If Rex isn't the starter week 1, shame on Mike Shanahan/Kyle Shanahan.[/quote]

I thought you might go with the handling of the McNabb situation or the Albert situation last year after that statement, which I would agree with you. I think what you have to remember is everyone including the Shanny know what you have with Rex, they are giving a chance to someone who's never had one before and had shown some talent in the past. Would you rather go 7-9, 8-8 with Rex or would you see if this guy can grow into the offense, become a leader, and help this team compete in a highly volatile nfc east where nothing is for sure this year? Personally Im not convinced, but we already know what we got with Rex, lets give the guy a chance.

Hog1 08-22-2011 08:06 PM

Re: Game Tape: Preseason Week 2 vs Colts
 
[quote=Chico23231;825833]I thought you might go with the handling of the McNabb situation or the Albert situation last year after that statement, which I would agree with you. I think what you have to remember is everyone including the Shanny know what you have with Rex, they are giving a chance to someone who's never had one before and had shown some talent in the past. Would you rather go 7-9, 8-8 with Rex or would you see if this guy can grow into the offense, become a leader, and help this team compete in a highly volatile nfc east where nothing is for sure this year? Personally Im not convinced, but we already know what we got with Rex, lets give the guy a chance.[/quote]
Well said Chico! My response was going to be far more.....venomous.

MTK 08-22-2011 08:29 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;825826]Fans see what they want to see.[/quote]

Truth.


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