Giants CB likely out for season with torn ACL vs Bears preseason MNF game.
 

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Giants-cornerback-Terrrell-Thomas-has-a-torn-ACL-082211]Giants cornerback Terrrell Thomas has a torn ACL - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

Gotta feel bad for the guy. I am just thankful it wasn't one of ours.

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Not just their best CB, but their best DB.

Well, we all get treated to the Aaron Ross show now. I'll be tuning in.

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Don't wish injuries on opposing players, but if the time was ever right for the 'Skins to bring their A game against the Giants, it'd be in week 1.

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Geez that's their 3rd corner down this year.

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not only that, but they're without two starting defensive lineman from last year. Osi and Barry.

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[quote=12thMan;825890]not only that, but they're without two starting defensive lineman from last year. Osi and Barry.[/quote]If they win though this year, it's going to be with offense.

That defense is still very talented up front, but injuries and poor drafting is making that pass defense trend towards ugly. Their only good players in the back seven are Michael Boley and whatever Kiwanuka and Kenny Phillips have developed into. That's just not very good, by any stretch.

I don't think we're good enough to challenge for the NFC East title, but there's definitely room for an up-and-comer to make noise this year. In other words, the path to a surprise playoff berth is there, so long as the Redskins can stay out of their own way.

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No Kevin Boss or Steve Smith either...but maybe Devin Thomas!

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Coupled with the fact that they didn't really do anything in the offseason ... Eli is really going to have to step up and put that team on his shoulders. Curious to see if they can match their 10 wins from last season.

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I saw that kickoff return.. wait, is that the same dev... oh.

I forgot he went there. too bad he can't play WR, but he looked good as a returner.
desmond howard redux anyone?

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[quote=SmootSmack;825898]No Kevin Boss or Steve Smith either...but maybe Devin Thomas![/quote]


LOL...who? Anytime you lose a guy who gets at least 5 int's and leads the team in tackles is a bad time,someone just needs to step up.Don't be surprised to see the Giants go after AS in Philly.

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I feel really bad for the Gints.........


not

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[quote=GTripp0012;825892]

That defense is still very talented up front, but injuries and poor drafting is making that pass defense trend towards ugly. Their only good players in the back seven are Michael Boley and whatever Kiwanuka and Kenny Phillips have developed into. That's just not very good, by any stretch.

.[/quote]


LOL........wow,ok.

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Do ya think they go after Samuels?

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;825952]Do ya think they go after Samuels?[/quote]

.....they will look into it.

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Tripp, I don't think the Giants front seven is anymore talented than the Redskins at this point. The only thing separating us from the better front sevens in the NFL is playing time together.

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[quote=12thMan;825959]Tripp, I don't think the Giants front seven is anymore talented than the Redskins at this point. The only thing separating us from the better front sevens in the NFL is playing time together.[/quote]

Not sure about that. Pierre Paul is a physical freak. Once Osi gets back I think they still have a pretty good front 7. Do we have 3 guys that are as good as Tuck, Paul and Osi? We'll see.

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[quote=skinsfan69;825961]Not sure about that. Pierre Paul is a physical freak. Once Osi gets back I think they still have a pretty good front 7. Do we have 3 guys that are as good as Tuck, Paul and Osi? We'll see.[/quote]

Well, that's their front three. And yes, we'll see. I like what we got in our front seven.

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[quote=SmootSmack;825898]No Kevin Boss or Steve Smith either...but maybe Devin Thomas![/quote]

He looked pretty good as a return man. Maybe he's found his nitch? Kind of like Desmond Howard!

I think the Giants, like Pittsburgh, really believe in the guys they draft. Rookie TE steps in for Boss as well as Cruz for Smith.

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[quote=12thMan;825959]Tripp, I don't think the Giants front seven is anymore talented than the Redskins at this point. The only thing separating us from the better front sevens in the NFL is playing time together.[/quote]

I have a tough time believing that -- the only real dominating presence in our front 7 right now is Rak IMO whereas the blue men have Tuck, Osi, Kiwanuka, and Canty.

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The G-men definitely still have a great D line, even after losing Cofield. They've got a lot of adversity to deal with, including Osi's unhappiness. Coughlin will have to do a great job to get that team together. Offensively, they are a real unknown w/that line.

I'm not saying we'll have a winning season, but I think we can finally beat the G-men in week 1.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;825966]I have a tough time believing that -- the only real dominating presence in our front 7 right now is Rak IMO whereas the blue men have Tuck, Osi, Kiwanuka, and Canty.[/quote]

Well Tuck is definitely awesome, but Osi is injured and frankly not what he used to be due to age. Canty is a nice player but definitely not dominant, I'd equate him to Bowen. Kiwanuka is a nice OLB but he doesn't scare me.

The Giants still have a great pass rush but Canty is their most accomplished defensive tackle. The loss of Barry Cofield has left a gaping hole in the middle of their line. Further, Osi, Tuck, and Pierre-Paul are pass rushing monsters but don't scare anyone from a run-stuffing standpoint.

The Giants can still rush the passer with the best of them but this year they are very vulnerable to being run on.

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Tough break to lose one of your best players.

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Total speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Giants talk to Kelvin Hayden, who's still out there

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I didn't say the Giants front seven sucked, but I keep hearing Osi this and that. There's a reason the Giants allowed his situation to drag on. He's lost a step and has been injured.

We'll see how dominant they are without Barry Cofield in the middle. Just saying, we'll see.

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[quote=12thMan;825980]
We'll see how dominant they are without Barry Cofield in the middle. Just saying, we'll see.[/quote]

I like Cofield I said it when you signed him ,he's done everything asked of him,he deserves the money,I would have loved to keep him but.....he has had health problems in the past and Marvin Austin,Linval Joseph,Rocky Bernard,Chris Canty and Gabe Watson can all play.....nows their time to step up.

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[quote=SmootSmack;825979]Total speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Giants talk to Kelvin Hayden, who's still out there[/quote]

....also what I'm hearing.

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Amukamara is gimpy, Thomas is done for the year...the first game of the season just got a lot easier for the Redskins' starting QB.

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[quote=Giantone;826005]I like Cofield I said it when you signed him ,he's done everything asked of him,he deserves the money,I would have loved to keep him but.....he has had health problems in the past and Marvin Austin,Linval Joseph,Rocky Bernard,Chris Canty and Gabe Watson can all play.....nows their time to step up.[/quote]

Since coming into the league, Cofield has missed one game in five years. That's pretty durable.

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[quote=skinsfan69;825965]He looked pretty good as a return man. Maybe he's found his nitch? Kind of like Desmond Howard!

I think the Giants, like Pittsburgh, really believe in the guys they draft. Rookie TE steps in for Boss as well as Cruz for Smith.[/quote]

Too bad the NFL is trying to force the kickoff return out lol. I like Banks and all but let's be honest, his value is diminished since the NFL moved kickoffs to the 35. He still has plenty of value on punt returns but not so much on kickoffs.

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[quote=SmootSmack;825979]Total speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Giants talk to Kelvin Hayden, who's still out there[/quote]

Was thinking the same thing, but do they have the money for him.

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I watched pieces of the game, I never saw them mention Cofield as a big loss for the migets.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;826139]I watched pieces of the game, I never saw them mention Cofield as a big loss for the migets.[/quote]

Losing Cofield may not be a big deal to the Giants because they have decent depth along the d line but the utility we get from picking him up is substantial -- just having a starting caliber NT (who actually wants to play NT unlike you-know-who) is a big plus for the defense.

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It just keeps getting worse for the Giants:

[url=http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6888535/new-york-giants-lose-another-brian-witherspoon-says-acl-torn]New York Giants lose another -- Brian Witherspoon says ACL torn - ESPN New York[/url]

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Wow...their defense is going to suck hard. I am looking forward to playing against a 2nd team secondary.


I wonder if they will trade for a CB or two.

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I bet a corner or two that the redskins cut will be picked up by the giants.

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[quote=warriorzpath;826248]I bet a corner or two that the redskins cut will be picked up by the giants.[/quote]

You think not.

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Saw on Twitter that Marvin Austin may also be lost for the year according to Coughlin.. This just smells like a last place finish for the G-Men.. Not based solely on talent but just snakebitten and lack of depth at key positions (CB, WR, TE). Schefter said this morning they already have a league high 7 players out for the season-not including Thomas or Austin.

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[quote=Paintrain;826266]Saw on Twitter that Marvin Austin may also be lost for the year according to Coughlin.. This just smells like a last place finish for the G-Men.. Not based solely on talent but just snakebitten and lack of depth at key positions (CB, WR, TE). Schefter said this morning they already have a league high 7 players out for the season-not including Thomas or Austin.[/quote]

:FIREdevil i feel so bad for them

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They'd better hope that vaunted front seven steps up this year.

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I'm not the type to wish any ill will on any other team.... well maybe dallas but anyway, this has to bode well for us.