Darrel Young - Rising Star?
 

[QUOTE]Young's transition to fullback from linebacker continues to look like a good one. His blocking has been fine, but his hands and nimble feet also have impressed coach Mike Shan?ahan. In two preseason games, Young has caught two passes for 27 yards. On those runs, he made a combined five defenders miss, whether by breaking tackles or making a move. "It's hard to find guys in that 250-pound range that can block and catch the ball like he did," Shanahan said.
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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/nfl/2011/08/its-all-about-decisions#ixzz1VppwJE5N]It's all about decisions | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

It's funny. After last year ended I thought Young had no chance of sticking around. Now I'm starting to wonder if he could eventually turn into a pro bowl level fullback.

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You got to think that since he's converting over from an LB, that he's only gonna get better. He's done enough to unseat Sellers for sure.

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So going from that article, it looks like Keiland Williams might be the odd man out. Torrain needs to play too, because Hightower is making a case for the starting job. Who from last year's roster has the best chance to make the team?

Helu has made the team, right? What about Royster?

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Young's play has been much better than Seller's have in just the limited time we've seen him. I think it's time to cut Sellers and continue to get younger. If KW isn't cutting it though, put his neck on the block instead of Sellers.

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I think Royster has an excellent shot. As far as Torrain goes, it looks like he'll get some playing time vs. Tampa. Maybe the Skins are trying to que up a trade early in the season. Zona sure could use a back right now.

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[quote=NC_Skins;825958]Young's play has been much better than Seller's have in just the limited time we've seen him. I think it's time to cut Sellers and continue to get younger. If KW isn't cutting it though, put his neck on the block instead of Sellers.[/quote]

The RB position presents an interesting dilemma. God-forbid Hightower sustains an injury of sorts that would keep him out of action for a while and Torain does not make the cut. Do we really want to be left with rookies to absorb such a demanding role?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/darrel-young-mike-sellers-help-each-other-out-at-fullback/2011/08/22/gIQAV1pPXJ_story.html]Redskins’ Darrel Young, Mike Sellers help each other out at fullback - The Washington Post[/url]

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Young has been impressive on those couple of receptions.

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[quote=Beemnseven;825950]So going from that article, it looks like Keiland Williams might be the odd man out. Torrain needs to play too, because Hightower is making a case for the starting job. Who from last year's roster has the best chance to make the team?

Helu has made the team, right? What about Royster?[/quote]

Helu definitely, Royster probably practice squad

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[quote=Mattyk;825975]Helu definitely, Royster probably practice squad[/quote]

Matty:

To tell the truth, I like Royster better than Torrain - - someone on whom I cannot depend.

I like the rotation of Hightower, Helu and Royster. Each brings something a bit different to the game meaning the running game would have different dimensions based on which TB is in there.

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I can see either Torain or Royster making it, but it makes more sense to keep Torain and stash Royster on the PS. That way if something happens to Torain you can just sign Royster to the active roster.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;826089]Matty:

To tell the truth, I like Royster better than Torrain - - someone on whom I cannot depend.

I like the rotation of Hightower, Helu and Royster. Each brings something a bit different to the game meaning the running game would have different dimensions based on which TB is in there.[/quote]

With Williams getting a lot of minutes in practice at RB and Sellers at FB. I wonder if it's Hightower, Helu, and Williams and Young and Sellers at FB. Royster on the PS and Torain gone or more likely out for the first few weeks

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[quote=SmootSmack;826095]With Williams getting a lot of minutes in practice at RB and Sellers at FB. I wonder if it's Hightower, Helu, and Williams and Young and Sellers at FB. Royster on the PS and Torain gone or more likely out for the first few weeks[/quote]

True, put Torain on PUP?

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[quote=Mattyk;826092]I can see either Torain or Royster making it, but it makes more sense to keep Torain and stash Royster on the PS. That way if something happens to Torain you can just sign Royster to the active roster.[/quote]

If Helu is to be the primary backup to Hightower, Torain, if he survives would be #3 on the DC. Since he does not play teams, I'm wondering what role he plays on Sunday unless he makes the 53 and is rendered inactive on game days.

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[quote=Mattyk;826096]True, put Torain on PUP?[/quote]

He's not eligible for the PUP list

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[quote=SmootSmack;826098]He's not eligible for the PUP list[/quote]

He would have to be on it already? Even then we would lose him for the first 6 weeks, probably not worth it.

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You can't be on it if you're on the active roster at the start of training camp and he was

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It looks like Darrel Young will end Sellers' tenure and that makes me happy. Nothing against Sellers but we've needed an upgrade.

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[quote=SmootSmack;826095]With Williams getting a lot of minutes in practice at RB and Sellers at FB. I wonder if it's Hightower, Helu, and Williams and Young and Sellers at FB. Royster on the PS and Torain gone or more likely out for the first few weeks[/quote]

I see something like this. I can't see them cutting Williams, he has proven his value in a few different roles. Sellers is more likely to get cut, but I see him making it for the same reasons; he can play a couple positions plus spec. teams.

Royster hasn't looked great to me, definitely PS material & Torain may have to go simply due to his injuries.

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Neither Torain or Royster clears the waiver wire. Arizona with the injury and Miami with the Johnson will gladly land one of those two backs.

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It's a risk you take

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I understand that we can't keep them all, but we can't expect our guy to be there either. Keep the rookie and hope he can make it, or keep the vet and hope he stays healthy.

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[quote=Lotus;826123]It looks like Darrel Young will end Sellers' tenure and that makes me happy. Nothing against Sellers but we've needed an upgrade.[/quote]

Agree. Sellers needed to go awhile ago.

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It think they are planning to keep sellers still. One reason is his mentoring of young. Other reasons are versatility and special teams play.

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In regards to the PS. We can place a rookie on there if some team tries to claim him can't we cut someone else and keep him.

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No, once they're claimed they're claimed

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[quote=BuckSkin;826223]Neither Torain or Royster clears the waiver wire. Arizona with the injury and Miami with the Johnson will gladly land one of those two backs.[/quote]


I'd take Royster at this point considering Torain's propensity to being injured.

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[quote=NC_Skins;826265]I'd take Royster at this point considering Torain's propensity to being injured.[/quote]

I think I would to at this point. With hightower taking Torains job he is now a backup that can't play special teams. he only becomes useful if hightower gets hurt. Is that kind of guy really worth a roster spot...not so sure anymore.

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Sellers is gone. I just don't see how Royster is a slam dunk over Torain who rushed for over 700 yds last season. Torain's got a big coming up against Tampa though. I think he can pretty much secure his roster spot with a good showing.

Damn, I've gone from him starting to hoping he makes the roster.

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Sellers could be a really nice fit at TE. He has decent hands and we know he can block. Can we carry 4 TE's though? Is Sellers is worth keeping over 24 year old Paulsen?

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We must be watching a different Sellers. I admire his hustle but I shudder everytime the ball is thrown his way

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I love Big Mike....but he couldn't catch a cold.

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Sellers had his day when he was playing a lead blocker role in the Gibbs offense, but in Shanahan's offense you could tell last year he didn't know who to block in the zone schemes. Missed a lot of assignments, and he's older now so he wasn't as quick to make up for mistakes with quickness. He's gone. Big ups to him for a nice Redskin career.

Young is a threat to block and act as the release valve for Beck or Rex, something any QB could use, especially those who aren't that established.

I don't think K Williams makes the roster. I think Helu and Hightower are the locks, it comes down to Torain vs Royster for the last spot. I'd go Royster, he's healthier and clearly makes pass blocking a priority.

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Young has looked good enough to secure a roster spot over 2 preseason games.
I wouldn't be a fan of ditching Sellers...he is huge and would pay great dividends in short yardage considering our line is finesse...doesn't he play teams too?

I do think Young will probably take the starting role and it sure is good to hear that we will be unhappy on cut date regarding our RB's...haven't had that luxury in a while.
Hightower is clearly the starter and Helu did great last week, amazing fits for the scheme...outside of those 2, every other tailback is at risk imo.
Torain is likely a shanny favorite and Royster is young....both are consistent but not explosive...I bet the plan is to keep Torain as #3 and put Royster on the practice squad....hopefully Royster fumbles a couple of times so no one snags him....he is decent but is he worth a roster spot?...he'd have to explode to prove that to me.

Regarding Big Mike...I bet they keep 2 FBs and have Young and him rotate...are there any more roster spots this year due to the new agreement?

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[quote=skinsnut;826343]Young has looked good enough to secure a roster spot over 2 preseason games.
I wouldn't be a fan of ditching Sellers...he is huge and would pay great dividends in short yardage considering our line is finesse...doesn't he play teams too?[/quote]

Well Young isn't exactly a welterweight either at 250, though at the same time I tend to forget that at 275-280 Mike is essentially a 6th Zone Blocking lineman on the field.

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[quote=BuckSkin;826223]Neither Torain or Royster clears the waiver wire. Arizona with the injury and Miami with the Johnson will gladly land one of those two backs.[/quote]

Torain will definitely get picked up, however I don't really see Royster as a hot commodity outside of DC, at least for now. Whenever I do my final roster these days though I've always put the Skins down for 4 RB's and 1 FB.

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I like Torain but Royster is the safer bet, I'd go with Royster, same with KW over MS. Although I might take MS over Paulsen, another option is keep Paulsen and if there's an injury we could always bring Sellers back (assuming he isn't signed by another team)...its a toss up!.... either way it'll all come down to the 3rd game.

(i like having tough choices, I can't remember the last camp with so many GOOD options)

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[quote=Dirtbag59;826346]Well Young isn't exactly a welterweight either at 250, though at the same time I tend to forget that at 275-280 Mike is essentially a 6th Zone Blocking lineman on the field.[/quote]

The only issue is Mike aint no Zone Blocker...which is fine if you are goal line.
We need a MAULER on the team...that is a specialty that I hope the Skins don't overlook. he is NOT a TE and Paulsen is young and solid depth.

Funny the Skins are concerned about redzone yet I haven't seen Sellers line up in the backfield to jam it in with a no nonsense back like Royster or Torrain.
I'd like to see that in preseason, because we can't rely on stretch plays at the 2 yard line, nor can we depend on our QBs.....A Power Rushing element to the team is ESSENTIAL in the NFC East...I am not sure Shanny had figured that out yet....I say...KEEP BIG MIKE!!

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[quote=dmanley1986;826330]Sellers could be a really nice fit at TE. He has decent hands and we know he can block. Can we carry 4 TE's though? Is Sellers is worth keeping over 24 year old Paulsen?[/quote]

I normally don't take pleasure in others misfortune, but I will be smiling from ear to ear when Sellers is cut. I hope to have seen my last image of a 260+ pound man trying to hurdle defenders as if he were in the Olympics. Nice knowin you Big Mike...

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Sellers was one of my favorite players and will be one of my fav Redskins .... specially since he came back to the team the way he did and really played his ass off for a long time .. he shined with Gibbs no doubt about it, but that damn fumble on a TD drive a few years ago against Bengals starting the downfall .. remember that play ??? I love the guy .. hope he remains a DC staple and gets a TV or Radio job or even coaching, actually I think he'd be a hell of a coach ... As far this RB situation goes, I really don't think Shanny has all of the sudden forgotten how smooth Torrain looked last year ??? Yes he is banged up, that's why we have a SUPER durable RB in Hightower and drafted some solid RB's ...

RBs
#1. Hightower
#2. Torrain
#3. Helu (eventually he will be great, may have to be next year though)
#4. ??

FB:
#1. Young
#2. Williams

Sellers is odd man out and so is Royster

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[quote=DCtoAZ;826606]Sellers was one of my favorite players and will be one of my fav Redskins .... specially since he came back to the team the way he did and really played his ass off for a long time .. he shined with Gibbs no doubt about it, but that damn fumble on a TD drive a few years ago against Bengals starting the downfall .. remember that play ??? I love the guy .. hope he remains a DC staple and gets a TV or Radio job or even coaching, actually I think he'd be a hell of a coach ... As far this RB situation goes, I really don't think Shanny has all of the sudden forgotten how smooth Torrain looked last year ??? Yes he is banged up, that's why we have a SUPER durable RB in Hightower and drafted some solid RB's ...

RBs
#1. Hightower
#2. Torrain
#3. Helu (eventually he will be great, may have to be next year though)
#4. ??

FB:
#1. Young
#2. Williams

Sellers is odd man out and so is Royster[/quote]

Don't think we will carry 4 RBs on the roster.